/vr/ - Retro Games

What? Says who?

>>10253273
I've seen plenty of Earthbound hate, too.

I think it's mostly just people who aren't into jRPGs trying it out and finding out that the only jRPGs they actually like were the ones they played when they were 14.

These people don't actually know what Earthbound is. They just know that it's cited as an inspiration for Undertale, and they've already decided they don't like Undertale, because it's popular.
Stop taking /v/'s opinion on anything seriously, is what I'm saying.

>>10253294
id say the opposite. I think people like undertale and then try earthbound, and realize they dont like it.

>>10253294
>Stop taking /v/'s opinion on anything seriously, is what I'm saying.
Even outside of /v/ and on other hubs for gaming discussion I've seen hate posting towards Earthbound.

EarrhBound fanbase is full of trannies, much like Undercringe.

>>10253265
zoomer here, the game is cringe and the ost sucks.
also the snes is shit, bye

>>10253317
In the end tho, your opinion does not matter.
>t. dick haver male that played the 3 games + toby romhack

>>10253265
What are you talking about, Gen Z love EarthBound. I'm a millennial and I don't hate EarthBound, I just don't get it. Tried playing through it and got bored partway through.

>>10253265
>Even if you use the quirky RPG discourse as a reasoning, the Mario RPG games would later do the same thing and they don't have the same reputation.
Learn the rules, anon.

>>10253265
Because it became a meme that they had to hear about over and over. It's not their fault. To me it was just a great game that I played.

>>10253435
Surprised to see a trendy twitter meme someone recently made here so soon.

Earthbound represents a world that feels like an eternal Saturday morning in the 90s. Not really relatable anymore.

Undertale is nothing like EarthBound actually.

>>10253435
Wow. Such a profound comic from a anally ravaged autist showcasing their hatred towards a group of people they hate, commenting on fanboyism regarding when their favorite franchise makes a spin-off game in a genre they'd otherwise ignore. Never seen that before. What a grotesque exaggerated art style to emphasize such internal emotions too. Very pleasant person to be around, I'm sure. Defiantly not compensating for any insecurity issues.

>>10253485
People who haven't played either game don't know that though.
They also think both games are "about depression", which they aren't, particularly.

>>10253531
This but the opposite cuz it's funny and true lol

>>10253539
>iphone
>Truth Social

>>10253453
;_;

>>10253319
>ost sucks
This is how I know you are baiting

gen z here
the only earthbound fan in my high school had aspergers

>>10253265
Millenials knew it as "that weird game that got no love when it came out but now eveyone praises it and bases their shitty indie game off of it". zoomers have no concept of the period where it was genuinely unpopular/unknown, so from their POV it's massively overrated and they're annoyed by how dominant its influence is in the indie sphere

>>10253294
SMT is sited as inspiration for Undertale too

>>10253453

I got halfway through it and dropped it. It was okay I guess. From the perspective of someone who was on the fence about liking it the hatred for it is weird. I don't see how anyone who likes jrpgs could rate it below 3/5.

gay tranny mentally ill fanbase that doesn't even understand their own game if their fangames are anything go by. It's the most misunderstood game of all time because social rejects made it their safe haven

OP, nobody actually has any opinions about this controversy. I mean, there are seemingly human entities that will claim to, but they are nobodies. Here is how actual people react to EarthBound:
99.999% of them never play it or think about it.
Some of the remainder play it and like it a lot.
Some of them play it and become bored or annoyed, and likely give up on it before finishing.
Some of them play it and think it's just okay.

"Gen Z" is not a person, so it doesn't have any opinions about any topic. If you encounter an individual, purportedly human noise source that periodically emits this type of nonsensical opinion, you should consider it to be something like a recording being played by a machine that's set to repeat, and move on without assigning any significant meaning to its seemingly passionate words.

>>10253294
A bit of that, Undertale got a massive annoying fandom so the contrarian came out (they're both great BTW)
>>10253312
A bit of that too, I've also seen the other way around where hardciore EB fans, on starmen dot net for example, don't like anything beyond the Mother series

>>10253453
It goes older than that really. I read an interview with Itoi where he says one of his main inspirations was old American sitcoms like Leave It To Beaver.

>>10255202
And thanks to Nick at Nite, it still fit into the realm of 90s nostalgia

Hello, Dark Ness, my old friend...

>>10255258
For me, it's dobey, dragnet and my 3 sons

>>10253294
It's the opposite
YOU never played earthbound
YOU didn't spend a good hour or two wondering when the fuck other characters would show up in your party
YOU didn't experience a steep level curve where enemies are either grotesquely overpowered or so easy they're auto defeated. Nothing in between.
YOU didn't deal with shitty condition after shitty condition for just booting the game up like "home sickness" which is an invisible condition for not calling your mom occasionally, or worse...mushroom. You know what mushroom is? It's Pokemon confusion mixed with poison, mixed with it fucks with your D-pad outsode of combat. Oh what fun! Surely that isnt worthy of a bomb threat to the devs!

All this, and it's history of draconian anti piracy measures, the fact that it was clearly just one big allegory for abortion because as always, gooks are all depraved child molesters were abused as children

>>10256031
I don't even hate this game (it can't get me to be that passionate) but thank you for reminding me how much it suuuuuucks

>>10256031
>everyone moves slow as shit unless you eat a skip sandwich
>skip sandwiches take up inventory space
>tiny inventory
>speed boost only lasts ten seconds

>>10256039
Challenge doesn't make it suck, in fact it would be worse if you weren't a little wary of encounters. As I see it the game only has 2 flaws, one is being able to get softlocked, the second is how the areas after Fourside have a weaker identity than the urban settings. With a couple exceptions the first half of the game is much more memorable.

>>10256150
>Challenge doesn't make it suck
no one said it does lmfaorofl

>>10253265
>I'm just now noticing people get annoyed with things that have loud pretentious fanbases
It's sad how dense and out of touch this board is.

>>10256031
kek you're making me want to play it again, anon.

I cannot believe retards still deny giygas being aborted when they literally show him as an infant silhouette

>>10253265
Hi, millennial here. Jrpgs are my favorite kind of game. I don’t like Earthbound because it’s a boring game with a lot of pointless annoyances. It has charm, but it’s a total drag to get through and I simply don’t find it fun or worth the effort.
I’m totally loving Suikoden 2 right now though!

>>10256472
Why do you articulate yourself like such an insufferable faggot?

>>10256472
You deserve to be molested over and over and over again.

>>10256481
>>10256514
>can’t dispute that EarthBound is boring as fuck, better make an ad hominem attack instead.
Checks out. Earthbound is a perfect pick for you.

>>10253435
The designers of Super Mario RPG were well aware that most RPG combat is boring as shit. I mean, you could always try not making an RPG, but at least they attempted to make the standard JRPG line-up-and-fight slop more interesting.
Earthbound be like pic related, but quirky!

>>10253265
Gen Z has spite against Earthbound?

>>10256649
Hi, nigger here, shut the fuck up and never post again fag

>>10253317
imagine being such a retarded faggot that you actually let the fanbase for a single player game from 30 years ago affect your opinion of that game

>>10256649
>I will add some Latin to my list to make myself seem intelligent.

>>10256905
>>10257096
Earthbound sucks and is a waste of time. You are also morons. Have a nice evening and keep seething.

>>10253435
Yes, Mario RPGs are actually fun. What's your point?

>>10257131
kek I'm neither of those guys but you do seem like a huge, completely insufferable, faggot.

>>10257571
Because that was worth the bump several hours later.

>>10254384
>It's the most misunderstood game of all time

Have you interacted with any piece of FF7 media released after the initial game?

>>10253265
I discovered it after knowing what Undertale was I knew the franchise prior ,but smash bros wasn't enough for me to really give it a try. All honesty I really did enjoy the game when I played it on my Wii U in middle school overall I really enjoyed it replayed like 3 times the played the others and the 3rd one made cry alot. Overall I give the series a 9/10 mostly item storage being my biggest complaint but there is definitely better on that.

>>10257832
Actually clarifying 3 did a better job on the item system I just typed this when I'm half asleep

>>10256031
I did play Earthbound, but it's just a generic JRPG, and I don't really like those anyway. Any criticism about it's gameplay can be applied to Final Fantasy which is equally boring.

You can be sure the brunt of any new wave of negative sentiment toward Earthbound is coming from that one meme people keep posting about "Earthbound inspired indie RPGs about depression".

Also, the people posting those memes can't name ten games that supposedly are that thing.
People on the internet now are living in a hyperreality built from memes about things they don't really understand.

>>10253265
The main appeal of the game
>JRPG but NOT fantasy
isn't unique anymore, there's a hundred indie games like this now. No wonder it's less appealing to a modern crowd

>>10257879
The main appeal is that it's Charlie Brown as a JRPG with aliens, and weirdo pastiches of 1950's Americana.

>>10256053
>unlock the bike to breeze through the map
>not allowed to use it for the rest of the game when Paula joins the party 10 minutes later

The main appeal was the setting.
If you don't like the setting, you don't like the game.

The soundtrack is phenomenal.
Title Screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZo0IBwt4s

Sunrise and Onett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkOIK1hQMrk

Snowman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niE24aTdtns

Summers, Eternal Tourist Trap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfDBPwsiuE

Sailing to Scaraba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pzv_e2xRkY

Bazaar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0x4_bVLSQ

And don't think it stops at just the towns and exploring the world; the battle music is equally tremendous. This game spent a LOT of effort in its themes and tone, and it very very definitely shows.
Battle Against a Machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6TEXfM3x5c

Kraken of the Sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2fjIawImFc

>>10258403
It's a referential joke. It knew it was being a campy parody of the (J)RPG genre. As much as people claim their lack of being able to use the bike was "annoying" or "bad development," it was quite the opposite; it was purposely designed to be jarring for the person holding the controller for the past 4 or 5 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk4Z-QfSmmw

>>10258407
>Be sure to take a short side trip to the coast just west of town to see the beautiful view from the bluffs.
This game is beyond amazing for what it knew what it was doing for the player. It was a game designed about make you feel good and do second-takes at what just happened.

>>10257923
Basically this plus the soundtrack (which is partially covered by the "pastiche of 1950s Americana").
If you needed someone to explain this to you, just raise your hand, and someone will come smack you in the head with a tack-hammer because you're a RETARD

>>10256031
>Most generic and over-repeated criticisms of Earthbound with no supporting examples
>"Dood Earthbound is about abortion because gaygas is a fetus XDDDD"
>Antipiracy as a complaint when you wouldn't encounter that unless you're using an emulator from the '90s, but it is common YouTube trivia
YOU never played Earthbound, Anon, and it shows.

This much talk about EarthBound (Mother 2) make me think:
What is gen Z or similar people opinions about Mother 3? And to you anons...did you liked Mother 3? Do you prefer Mother 2 over 3 or the inverse?

>>10260980
i love earthbound (played it at release originally) but didnt like mother 3 at all. i only played it once (the day the english translation dropped back in 2008 or whenever). to be fair the rhythm combat didnt work on my emulator at the time, but i just didnt care for the game at all. took way too long to get your actual party together, and i didnt like the time jumps and unnecessary melodrama which didnt fit the art style or the type of game it was at all. mother 1 is good but the battle system has not aged well at all. too time consuming for what it is. any time i replay that now i use the easy mode hack or just outright disable random encounters after ive had my fill. i doubt i will ever play mother 3 again but the other games i will for sure

>>10257571
Ever see the movie Idiocracy? Your argument is literally the same as one of the low iq people from the future.

>The game was mostly ignored by Gen X and young millennials at launch
>by 2001 hipsters discover the game and embrace it as “mother 2: the best game you probably never heard of”
>a decade later the game was over hyped by older millennials and who wouldnt shut up about it from 2010-2019
>hipsters abandon earthbound because everyone suddenly recognizes it
>every gaming focused youtuber used the game as a prop on the shelf behind them as they stream and pretend to love it despite never actually playing Earthbound and only skimming a longplay once
>Zoomers check it out to see what all the hype is about and walk away bored and unimpressed.

>>10253265
I'm a millennial and hate it too, it's a game for dorks.

>>10261086
Sounds like a great filter for mindless retards

>>10260980
Mother 3 is by far the best in the series

>>10261114
It reminds me of the grateful dead fans, everyone has a deadbeat uncle who tries to shill the dead as the greatest band of all time. The band is arguably “just ok” and was relevant in the era it was released in, but nothing more and it is of little interest to modern humans.

>>10260980
>What is gen Z or similar people opinions about Mother 3?
Since it is very unclear which age-group you might be asking opinions from, I'll state the standard definition of "Generation Z" claims people born between 1996-2010.
I was born 1987. I don't think my opinion applies to "Gen Z."
I played Earthbound when it was released sometime in 1995 as an 8-year-old.

>And to you anons...did you liked Mother 3?
I played it as soon as it got its fan-translation (Tomato) widely available sometime in 2008 or 2009.
No, I did not like Mother 3. I found its plot "really fucking gay." Lucas was "pathetic," Duster was oddly gymnastic despite his explicit limp, Kumatora was cute, Boney was fine, I guess. The music was alright but its GBA tone and harsher battle themes is far less enjoyable when compared to Earthbound's. The setting was too fantastical and the story took itself too seriously.
It lost its "campiness" feel and its world wasn't one I wanted to explore. Aside from visual cues, it does not share its tone with Mother 1 or Earthbound at all.

>Do you prefer Mother 2 over 3 or the inverse?
I am immensely nostalgic, and genuinely love, Earthbound.
I played Mother 3 once and I ultimately regret doing so.

>>10260980
As a 2001 gen z I love the first two games but think M3 is horribly boring. Most of my friends don't care about either, but the ones who are fans of the franchise all seem to love Earthbound and dislike Mother 3. I'm the only one who cared enough to play Mother 1 and I liked it.

>>10253265
Because the game is shitty. As a millennial I'm on that boat that le quirky modern RPG whimsical doesn't cover the fact the game is actually shit

>>10261086
People discovered it mostly because of Smash Bros. and emulators becoming better and more widely available.

>>10258436
Nice pic of my house, anon.

>>10260980
If I remove my nostalgia goggles, Mother 3 is my favorite because of the added gameplay improvements like the musical attacks. It steps out of the "rpg satire" and into "being it's own thing" in a good way. Mother 1/2 though have the more straight forward romp through a weird America vibe though, and my nostalgia goggles love that shit. They are all good though, I got repro English translation carts to play them on my SP for true SOVL.

Cave Ant W called for help!

>>10261285
>"pull out Bug Spray"

>>10261251
>added gameplay improvements like the musical attacks
You're a normie then, because the very first thing a mediocre RPG will try and do to mask the fact that it's mediocre is by adding gimmicky garbage such as timed hits. In M3's case, it's the worst kind since there's no visual indicators for it and relies purely on sound, AND the timing window is shitty even when playing on actual hardware.

>>10253265
I don't get why people feel the need to just make up retarded shit like this?

>>10261000
>from the future
Anon, if you watch Idiocracy today, it's a documentary.

>>10253265
It spawned Undertale, that's it.

>>10253265
you've been interacting with incels

touch grass

>>10261641
Idiocracy is boomer shit

>>10263192
Unfortunately

>>10263192
I don’t like Earthbound, but ironically I like a lot of the games it inspired. Omori, Yume Nikki, and Undertale. Mostly for the horror aspects though.

>>10253265
4chan hates it because normies love it for being quirky. It's the Undertale of its time.

>>10256031
This post right here. This anon gets it.
Earthbound might've had SOVL but as an actual game it sucks ass.

>>10253265
its pretty good. I host an EB stream 24/7 that you can control remotely. That way you can dip in and out for a while and play the parts you like. Its more fun to play with other people too. You can find the stream on most platforms, theres only a handful running anywhere.

>>10253265
>Why does gen Z have show so much spite and hate towards Earthbound?
Bro, take your meds

>>10253265
>the Mario RPG games would later do the same thing and they don't have the same reputation.
Probably because their offshoots look better (development hell habits aside)
>Blue Omen Operation
>Noill's reworked The Island game

>>10253265
The fanbase is really pretentious. It's the kind of fanbase that would go "hey, ever heard of Earthbound? (yes) lemme tell you about Earthbound. It's the best game and really artistic blah blah really obscure, it says something about life, etc."
People would get tired of that, specially if they don't like the game that much to begin with. I don't really care for the game, I'm just saying, this is how 4chn works. It's how things happen. I think the UT fiasco isn't actually that relevant.

>>10253265
4chan hipsters hating it because of undertale & deltarune and posting the buzz lightyear meme aren't really representative of "zoomers"

>>10265468
I never heard anyone call earthbound depressing, that’s all mother 3.
When I tell people about earthbound I just bring up you go back in time to give the final boss an abortion

>>10253294
It’s the other way around sometimes. My faggot little brother played earthbound after Undertale and bitches that it wasn’t as good as undertale. I packed his bags and left him at the local pedophiles house for that, haven’t heard from him since.

>>10253265
it's mostly just redditors/hipsters/etc that hate this game as well as many others because it's trendy for them to scream "overrated!". Most of them don't even like video games, but will preorder every trendy game they are told and spend the next few weeks shilling it. Real people who may not like Earthbound would just go "eh it's not for me" and move on. The ones that scream about it are just soulless redditors.

>>10253317
other way around, redditor