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10248054 No.10248054 [Reply] [Original]

Was the 6th generation of consoles the time when retro games finally got good?

>> No.10248058

>>10248054
Nintendo saved video games with the NES.

>> No.10248059

its when gaming died

>> No.10248061

>>10248054
nah sony ruined gaming

>> No.10248398

Couldn't imagine having the souless childhood that is growing up with only this shit. None of this shit is worth keeping a crt for, its all better and improved on modern consoles. Not the case with 5th gen and below

>> No.10248429

>>10248058
Then Microsoft did it again with the xbox

>> No.10248451

>>10248398
Couldn’t disagree more. Each of the sixth gen consoles still had their own unique identity and exclusives that set them apart, and PC gaming was still largely its own separate thing back then.

>> No.10248452 [DELETED] 

>>10248054
For me the Wii u is peak retro.

>> No.10248514

what an asshole.

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>>10248054
>6th gen
>retro

>> No.10248951

>>10248054
There are maybe 12 good games on PS2, 4 on GC, and 1 on Xbox

>> No.10248958

>>10248398
>he didnt play halo, rallisport challenge, and amped

>> No.10248964

>>10248951
Exclusives or multiplats?

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10248969

Yes, but you're missing the best 6th console.

>> No.10249063

>>10248969
99% of the games worth playing on that are on PS2, GameCube and Xbox.

>> No.10249097
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>>10248054
>arcades die
>2D dies
>small devs gradually quit making console games
>Japanese devs replaced by Western slop
>raise of "cinematic" elements and "open world"
>online shooters
>no bright colors, brown and bloom era
>Halo & GTA
AH YES NOW IT'S FINALLY BUSSIN FR FR NO CAP

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>>10249063
Nah

>> No.10249141

>>10248054
I like that generation but it became peak when PC gaming was booming even more

>> No.10249228
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>>10249097
>2D die
>small devs gradually quit making console games
>Japanese devs replaced by Western slop
>no bright colors
Nah, you're just being a little bitch.

>> No.10249245

>>10249097
Rent free.

>> No.10249342

>>10249228
op literally posted a pic of PS2/GC/XB you faggot. I talked about home consoles, all I said applies to them.
handhelds were good, but they were the last resort, and later got nuked by smartphones.
>>small devs gradually quit making console games
exactly true, they moved to handhelds or quit altogether
>>10249245
>I want my brown and bloom cinematic open world AAA slop with DLC by my favorite Californian studio

>> No.10250251

>>10249097
Most of what you’re describing is more seventh gen than sixth. The sixth gen actually had a really good balance between Japanese developers getting a firm grasp on 3D games and western devs coming into their own on consoles.

>> No.10250387

>>10250251
true, but it all started with 6th gen. I'd say all the "roots" of these changes were there. moreover, that showed more in the late 6th gen. early 2001-02 stuff was still very much about Japanese games, blue skies, experimental games, and Sega wasn't dead yet. towards 2005 it was more about games like Halo 2, NFS, San Andreas, Madden / soccer, Guitar Hero, GoW and licensed crap. meanwhile genres like platformers and (slightly less so) JRPG were quickly losing steam; arcade-style games were a dying breed.
90's heroes were going away one by one. GC was getting irrelevant. Street Fighter / Marvel vs went into hibernation, SNK went bankrupt, a few smaller publishers were starting to call it quits and resort to retro collections, side jobs, handhelds and pachinko. Rare grew surprisingly irrelevant in the new world of GTA & Halo. Crash & Spyro were almost dead—and they've been mascots of the PSX.
I'm not saying it all ended there, no. But there was a very noticeable shift in the middle of that gen, when all the seeds were planted. 7th gen was when it all finally came into fruition with CoD, more GTA / Halo / GoW, TES, Batman, TLOU, Uncharted, Minecraft and Kinect.

>> No.10251893

No, but I appreciate the spirit.

>> No.10251896

>>10249097
you got the wrong gen bro

>> No.10252182

>>10250387
Nobody is going to read this.

>> No.10252208

They aren't retro games, and they aren't when games got good. Actually, they were the last generation of good games.

>> No.10252810

>>10248054
>6th generation
>games finally got good
*cocks shotgun* ah, the broccoli heads are here…

7th gen was when things started dying.

>> No.10252865

>>10248054
No, it's when they finally got easy. Which isn't good. The only reason I bought a cheat disc was to fuck with games in ways that wouldn't be possible otherwise; i.e. screwing with physics, unlocking stuff left out of the final build, etc.
Not saying I cheated throughout previous gens, saying there wasn't a need for GG and so on for the 6th gen at ALL as it pertained to progression. Games by that point stopped being anything close to arcade hard.

>> No.10252875

6th gen was the last good gen of console gaming.

7th gen onwards consoles led gaming into a dark age. Only the PC Master Race can possibly hold hope to deliver the industry.

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10252883

games have always been good and still are

>> No.10252910

>>10252875
PC doesn’t get off light either. You fags introduced MOBA autism to the masses. Probably worse than console gaming.

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>>10248398
>>10248951
>>10249097
>>10249342
>>10250387
>>10252810
>>10252865
a bounty of bitchy boomers

>> No.10253845

fuck no. It was a jack of all traits master of none. all the genres that carried over from the 5th gen (JRPGs, platformers, collectathons, etc.) were worse than their 5th gen counterparts, and all the genres that started in the 6th gen (open world, console FPS, hack n slash, etc.) were refined and improved in the 7th gen.

I really love the 5th and 7th gens because they were specialized in a few genres and they did those few genres really well. If we combine the 5th gen and 7th gen and iron out the flaws (low poly 3D, brown and piss, 240p/640p, 10fps) it would truly be the best gen.

>> No.10253851

>>10248054
Literally the worst gen
>>10248061
Cope harder segautist/Xdresser

>> No.10253865

>>10250387
>more GTA
The amount of GTA declined, it went from 3 games in 6th gen to 2 games in 7th gen. 8th and 9th gen have 0 GTAs unless you count re-releases.

>> No.10253875

>>10253865
3 console games + 3 portable games in the 6th gen
1 console game + 1 portable game in the 7th gen
1 console game in the 8th gen (yes V is an 8th gen game and the 7th gen version is a downgrade)

>> No.10253885

not retro

>> No.10253890

>>10253875
How is it a downgrade when it came out a year before the 8th gen port you fucking retard

>> No.10253895

>>10248054
In my opinion yes. 5th gen was just the testing and conceptualization phase for 6th gen.

>> No.10253896 [DELETED] 

>>10253875
because all the assets were made for 8th gen consoles and they were downgraded for the 7th gen for early release.

so the 8th gen was the base, the 7th gen was the downgrade and the 9th gen was the upgrade.

>> No.10253905

>>10253890
because all the assets were made for 8th gen consoles and they were downgraded for the 7th gen for early release.

so the 8th gen/PC was the base, the 7th gen was the downgrade and the 9th gen was the upgrade.

>> No.10253908

>>10253895
this. the 5th and 7th gens were just beta tests for the 6th and 8th gens, which is why they aged like shit.

>> No.10253940

>>10253908
6th gen happened to be one of the generations of where gameplay mechanics advanced significantly. I struggle to even grasp the idea of what would be mechanically impossible on 6th gen consoles compared to games released today. 5th generation consoles on the other hand start hitting the limitations very quickly.

>> No.10253945

>>10253940
Nintendo has added new features to its hardware since the 6th gen. Also, there were still some technical limitations that were overcome between gen 6 and 7. I don't know much about these limitations, but I remember Dead Rising boasting about the number of zombies it could hold on screen.

>> No.10253946 [DELETED] 

>>10253940
idk about that. early 6th gen maybe, but late 6th gen games were begging for the next gen to run properly

>> No.10253951

>>10253940
idk about that. early 6th gen maybe, but late 6th gen games were begging for the another gen to run properly

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>>10253945
>but I remember Dead Rising boasting about the number of zombies it could hold on screen.
Yeah I'm sure that's the kind of stuff the console could struggle with. But I'd use State of Emergency as an example of the PS2 being able to pull off large amounts of NPCs and enemies on screen.
>>10253946
I'm not talking about hardware limitations and performance. I'm talking about what games were possible to make from 6th gen.

>> No.10253996

>>10248054
No, but it's the gen when 3D games actually looked okay.

>> No.10254002

The only thought that has crossed my mind in terms of what wouldn't have been possible in 6th is games like either: No Man's Sky, Starfield or Star Citizen. But then you can bring up the rare example of Haven Call of the King where the game was full of planets that you could fly to and explore. You could actually land on the planets, no loading screen transition between you descending upon them, the only loading screen that occurred was in the space section between planets.
https://youtu.be/7j2ivxJfX8w?si=VYUqmcZwEdWmAa4Q

This is how advanced 6th gen was.

>> No.10254760

>>10249063
Almost all of them look and run worse.

>> No.10254875

>>10253783
Zoomers and millennials are all mentally ill. Look at pop culture. We didn't do that. Your ideas you fleshed out. And it's not my fault if old games are too hard for you.

>> No.10254878

>numeric generation nonsense
kys

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>>10248054
>6th generation of consoles
It was good, but also the beggining of the end, as online play became more common by the end of the generation, and this is when things got more realistic in artstyle, looking more generic, also its when consoles started to feel a bit too similar, I'd say the main exceptions are obviously Nintendo, which are still the exception today due to their IP lineup, and SEGA because of how unique their Dreamcast actually was, anyways we still got a ton of superb stuff out of this generation, that I still love even today.

>the time when retro games finally got good?
I mean, I think they were good before... a lot of the 6th generation classics are sequels to things that were established on the 5th generation anyways, just more polished and with more stuff, but 5th generation laid the core of what the 6th generation would become, it was the start of 3D and then the peak of 3D, also we can't forget that the 4th generation was the peak of 2D in a way aswell, so it was an excellent generation too.

>> No.10255937

>>10248054
Not exactly, it was the gen when 3D hit its stride. Someone who grew up with the 7th gen might find the 5th gen or 3rd gen and below aged poorly, but also find the 4th gen and high quality 2D games from 5th gen to be as playable as the 6th gen.