/vr/ - Retro Games

OP here, maybe not the game itself, but when it comes to music, Sonic R is as 90's as it gets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XYsm3c28U

>>10208282
Anything arcade by Sega would do I think.
They were always going all out with soundtrack and blu blu sky in it.

>>10208282
Kinda hard to pick one to represent the entire decade so I will break it up into 3 sections.
>early 90s
TJ&Earl
>mid 90s
Comix Zone
>late 90s
MGS

>>10208282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8FTfSjocq0

>>10208326
This. The 90s was too diverse and each new era had a different feeling from the last. I'd go as far to say the entire Sega Genesis library absolutely REEKS of early 90s energy.

>>10208317
I miss that blue. Sure, it's hyper saturated and less realistic but it's full of soul

>>10208282

All of Sega's catalog is the 90s

>>10208282
You'll laugh, but I'd say Bubsy. It's not _good_, but it's very, very much a thing of its time. A Sonic knockoff mascot with attitude; shitty jump to 3D later; it was absolutely a game that could only be made in the '90s. Not that it should have been made though, but hey, they tried.

>>10208480
oh yeah, I'dd add this too. Bonus points for muh ecology

I bet very few of you have heard of this shit, but this is the most 90s thing I've played.
Full of Jackson, Hammer, Ice T vibes.

Comix Zone.
- extreme comix theme from the 90s
- gen x-er main character from the 90s
- grunge music from the 90s
- on the sega genesis, from when Sega was at their peak in the 90s

it's the 90s in one single Sega cartridge.

>>10208285
Sonic R is 90s but it's peak eurotrash 90s. Only way it could get more eurotrash would be if it had music by Rednex or E-rotic.

>>10208398
>REEKS of early 90s energy
For sure. Almost picked Sonic 2 over TJ&Earl. So many great choices. Thought about DK Country for mid 90s(a great choice imo) but that Comix Zone grunge look and feel just fits. Late 90s was a bit tougher for me as I skipped that gen growing up but MGS has that feel for me.

>>10208537
also, the ads were drawn by actual comic book artists. This one was done by the guy who was drawing Superman at the time.

>>10208524
I really like that art style, is the game and good?

>>10208282
You basically posted it, in a roundabout way. Allow me to clarify.

>>10208326
/thread

Any game with a protagonist with the John Connor/ Trunks/Nick Carter haircut? Who also wears high sneakers and a denim jacket?

That could be a pretty 90's game.

Killer Instinct needs to be at least an Honorable mention.

>>10208654
RE2?

>>10208687
Nta but yes kek, perfect.

DQvi has trunks but he's link and also Gohan but he's also link

I dislike Akira Toriyama's style and feel the Dragon Quest series suffers for it.

>>10208282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMb1pXa0FL0

>>10208537
God, this. Every embarrassing mid-90s trend wrapped up in one game.

EarthBound

No mention of Mortal Kombat eh. Martial arts and especially ninja obsession was still a very real thing in the 90s. Edginess was in, and MK was probably the most controversial game of the decade in that regard. Ninjas + shock value = pretty 90s.....I mean you also have little things, like Scorpion being pretty similar to Ghost Rider, a character popular in the edgy anti hero era of the 90s, and Kano's design being loosely inspired by Terminator, which T2 was a pretty big deal

>>10208282
This aesthetic specifically, the late 90s/early 00s meth head vibe, what best for that? Twisted Metal and whatever professional wrestling games were on Playstation or PS2.

>>10208545
Yeah it's like Bubble Bobble with SPOOKY enemies. Same exact gameplay, but much better sound and graphics.

Beware, you might get A'FREARED. Perfect for Halloween, just like Pumpkin Hill SA2.

Pay attention to the music at minute 2:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t63Fo6ozkw4&t=121s

>>10209216
https://youtu.be/-1jPUB7gRyg
?

>>10209226
Nop, it's an older song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DNQRtmIMxk

>>10208547
SKITCHIN’!!!
>WEEEEUUUURRRR
DUN duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nah NEH na ne no neh DUN

>>10208654
Steve Burnside from RE Code Veronica, specifically the Dreamcast version. They allegedly changed his hairstyle in the re-releases because it was too much like Di Caprio's

>>10209312
Soory.

>>10209161
I also thought it was weird MK wasn't immediately mentioned. Literally had a fucking blockbuster movie lol.

I would argue Midway arcade games in general pretty much defined that decade, at least in America. Over the top racing games with half naked ladies, gritty bloody fighting games, comical nerdy games like Rampage World Tour and Gauntlet Legends, and of course the staple sports games like NBA Jam and NFL Blitz. NBA Jam was so popular that Shaq would literally rent a cab for his hotel room for him and his buddies to play.

>>10209336
That is more 80s style where “every cool kid is the fonz”.

>>10208654
>high sneakers

>>10209415
Those are Chuck Taylors or an equivalent. Fairly popular among all the rock subcultures and in the 90s, West Coast gangster rap. It is a "generic shoe", so a nerd might wear them too especially a drawing of one since they're an easy to draw and very generic sneaker, but it wasn't a "nerdy shoe"

>>10209107
>Every embarrassing mid-90s trend wrapped up in one game.
and yet the game kicks a ridiculous amount of ass.

>>10209312
he did save claire's life, good for him

A game where you collect CDs to play them in your discman? Yeah, that's pretty 90's.

>>10209290
>DUN duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nah NEH na ne no neh DUN
doesnt match up, i counted

>>10208326
>>10208537
>Comix Zone
came here to post this

>>10209979
Fuck I love polterguy

mkii

>>10208282
Street Fighter II

>>10208654
>>10208687
>women love both Future Trunks and Leon
>both have the exact same hair and in RE4, a lot of the same attitude
it's all so obvious now

Don't know if these "3D glasses" were invented earlier, but at least for me they're a relic of the 90's

Twisted Metal, especially the original is so mid 90s that you might think it's someone trying to do a period piece. My favorite is the Cyburbia (sounds like an album name) level where you can run over boomers in lawn chairs sitting in their nicely manicured lawns. Very Gen X.

>>10211027
yea they're a bit older than that

>>10211059
>>10211027
They're older but you would get them all the time with a bunch of 3D gimmick stuff like kids magazines and books.
We even made them at school as a project out of celophane.

>>10211068
>We even made them at school as a project out of celophane.
haha yes

>>10208282
Ape Escape or Chameleon Twist.

>>10208436
It just look a windows error waiting to happen or some placeholder to be honest

>>10208547
This got made fun of a lot (because road rash and tony hawk beat it I think) but I still think it's a good game

Wipeout

>literally started the Y2K aesthetic
>trance and prog house soundtrack

>>10208326
Comix Zone wasnt that good and there are games a lot more fun than MG for ps1

>>10213343
Not surprisingly that someone who thinks Comix Zone is bad also sucks at reading comprehension. OP asked for "the most 90s game" not the best game from the 90s anon.

>>10208537
>>10208539
>Ponytails on men
I hope that hairstyle never comes back. It's even worse than the zoomie haircut.

>>10208282
Syphon Filter, Twisted Metal, Command and Conquer for me.

>>10208537
This is probably the correct answer.

>>10213824
Now that you mention it, one character in Broken Sword had that same exact look.

>>10213825
3 discs

>>10208282
Hypnospace Outlaw.

>>10208282

>>10213942
Not retro

>>10208282
No Fido Dido yet?

>>10213824
Yup, worst there's ever been besides man buns

>>10213337
>Y2K
>most 90s

>>10214471
We were just ignoring him

WipeOut is one of the most '1995' games that I can think of. Everything from the soundtrack (The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Orbital, New Order, etc) to the SGI produced pre-rendered cutscenes, Designer Republic art design and the tech that it was running on. The PS1 was still pretty new hardware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i8AthdHa-k

>>10214471
>>Y2K
>>most 90s


The movie Hackers from 1995:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATlszssL-eI

It features a promotional pitch video of the original Wipeout, used as the game that was played in the weird 'Hacker' underground lair. Hackers came out the same year as the game Wipeout.

>>10211027
>Don't know if these "3D glasses" were invented earlier, but at least for me they're a relic of the 90's

Te Red and Blue 3D glasses were more associated with the 1980's and 1950's, than the 1990's. These types of glasses were introduced in the 1950's for Shlocky B-horror movies. In the 1980's they had a comeback in movies, and you would find them with sticker books and whatever. In the 90's, the Polarized 3D glasses were more of a thing. Even in the game Zombies Ate my Neighbours, it was a throwback to 1950's and 1960's cinema monster movies.

>>10211068
>Te Red and Blue 3D glasses were more associated with the 1980's and 1950's, than the 1990's. These types of glasses were introduced in the 1950's for Shlocky B-horror movies. In the 1980's they had a comeback in movies, and you would find them with sticker books and whatever. In the 90's, the Polarized 3D glasses were more of a thing. Even in the game Zombies Ate my Neighbours, it was a throwback to 1950's and 1960's cinema monster movies.

The Red and Blue 3D glasses were more associated with the 1980's and 1950's, than the 1990's. These types of glasses were introduced in the 1950's for Shlocky B-horror movies. In the 1980's they had a comeback in movies, and you would find them with sticker books and whatever. In the 90's, the Polarized 3D glasses were more of a thing. Even in the game Zombies Ate my Neighbours, it was a throwback to 1950's and 1960's cinema monster movies.

1994: Slam City with Scotty Pippin

- Still in the life action FVM stage of CD tech
- Scotty Pippin
- Inspired by movies like White Men Can't Jump
- Has all sorts of 'lingo' and dialogue that is hard to comprehend today. Another 1994 contender would be Road Rash on the 3DO.

1994: Slam City with Scotty Pippin

- Still in the live action FVM stage of CD tech
- Scotty Pippin
- Inspired by movies like White Men Can't Jump
- Has all sorts of 'lingo' and dialogue that is hard to comprehend today. Another 1994 contender would be Road Rash on the 3DO.

1994: Slam City with Scotty Pippin

- Still in the live action FVM stage of CD tech
- Scotty Pippin
- Inspired by movies like White Men Can't Jump
- Has all sorts of 'lingo' and dialogue that is hard to comprehend today. Another 1994 contender would be Road Rash on the 3DO.

>>10208282
To me it's Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike. Down to "alright, that's cool!" instead of your usual "perfect".

DOOM and Quake

>>10213824
That's a pagan hairstyle, actually.

>>10215216
and?

>>10213960
This looks an awful lot like it would be an Adventure Island clone.

as a bonus it's a claymation game

>>10214805
>In the 90's, the Polarized 3D glasses were more of a thing.

Correction. I meant to say these 3D glasses were more of a thing. The Pulfrich 3D Glasses , with the one grey lens and one clear lens. Not polarizing. There are two examples from the 90's that used these glasses is the cartoon The Bots Master from 1993, which had 'laser time' segments that would use these glasses. Also, the NBC show Third Rock from the Sun used these glasses for its final episode. Which was 1996. Those red and blue glasses were still found in sticker books and other random kids things.

>>10214805

Correction. I meant to say these 3D glasses were more of a thing. The Pulfrich 3D Glasses , with the one grey lens and one clear lens. Not polarizing. There are two examples from the 90's that used these glasses. The first is the cartoon The Bots Master from 1993, which had 'laser time' segments that would use a lot of parallax animation effects to create a quasi-3D effect. The glasses were included with action figures for the show. Also, the NBC show Third Rock from the Sun used these glasses for its final episode. Which was 1996. Those red and blue glasses were still found in sticker books and other random kids things.

>>10208547
I was there and this is exactly what the 90s were like.

>>10215783
>>>10208547
>I was there and this is exactly what the 90s were like.

EA was going hard into the 'alternative' grunge scene in the mid 90's with Road Rash (mostly the 3DO version) and Skitchin'. Rollerblades were big at that point in time, too.

Cool Spot

>>10214805
i remember watching a married with children 3d special with the red and blues. think we had to get them from 7-11

>>10213824
>I hope that hairstyle never comes back.
>>10214191
>>10215221

"THIS IS THE 90'S GUYS"

https://youtu.be/SEAs8tSZV1s?t=188

Confirmed very 90's "game".

>>10216508

The original need for Speed on the 3DO is a very 1994-ish game. Especially in the presentation and FVM cutscenes with the trash talking opponent named the x-man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOgpX5Shi6U&t=484s

The early 90's 'multimedia' CD-ROM craze was all about live-action FMV and in some cases 2D animation. The earliest PC's with CD-ROM drives, and add-ons like the TurboGraphx 16 and the Mega/ Sega CD. The 3DO was all about live action FMV. But there was a big tonal shift to CG cutscenes from the PS1/ Sega Saturn era from 1995 -1996.

The original Need for Speed on the 3DO is a very 1994-ish game. Especially in the presentation and FVM cutscenes with the trash talking opponent named the x-man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOgpX5Shi6U&t=484s

The early 90's 'multimedia' CD-ROM craze was all about live-action FMV (and in some cases 2D animation). EA was big on investing in live action FMV during the early 90's. Mostly for PC games, but that also spilled over onto the 3DO as well. Having video files stored on a CD was a selling point back then. But from 1995-1996 onward with the PS1 and Sega Saturn, there was a big shift to CG cutscenes.

>>10208282
He looks like a complete shithead

>>10208282

>Which is the most 90's retro game of all time?

FTFY ;)

Dash Dingo.

>ctrl-F
>No klax
Come on guys

>>10216962
Nah looks kewl

>>10216041
lmao ponytail shitter detected

>>10217691
Only to zoomers who don't know what the reality of the late 90s and rap metal was since they were like 1 years old.

>>10217757
>Only to zoomers who don't know what the reality of the late 90s and rap metal was since they were like 1 years old.

Each part of the decade has its' own fads, just like the 80's and 70's. Nu Metal was late 90's to early 00's. But faded out. Image related is like 1999.

>>10217757
>Only to zoomers who don't know what the reality of the late 90s and rap metal was since they were like 1 years old.

Each part of the decade has its' own fads, just like the 80's and 70's. Nu Metal was late 90's to early 00's. But faded out. Image related is like 1999. Someone else posted this days ago. But I subbed to this magazine and remember this issue.

>>10215296
Rampage World Tour used early 90s CGI. I think you mean either Clayfighter or Neverhood.

The cover for this game, just screams '1993'. It's got Clinton shaking the hand of Hussein.

Do we agree Teletext is a very 90''s thing? It was probably invented long before the 90's and still exists to this day, but I believe it's in the 90's where it was the most relevant. I remember it as being pretty much the "internet" of those who didn't have internet yet. You could check from TV guides to small reviews of the latest released video games.

>>10220229
That's a screenshot from Ultimate Soccer Manager 2 by the way. Some football managers would let you consult some kind of Teletext simulator to check your results.

>>10208326
Why were the 90s so good? Gaming, wrestling and music from that era are still unmatched.

>>10208547
this game is ALSO awesome. What we are seeing is that in spite of being maximum 90S COOL, these games also are fucking fun anyway. If only modern movie snorefests could figure that second part out.

>>10220246
70s music is better

>>10215759
Orb 3D on NES also came with a set of these

>>10220246
It was the last truly optimistic era of America. The cold war finally ended after half a century, technological progress was booming at an incredible rate, the biggest political scandal was whether the president got his dick sucked or not, the economy was doing great, it was unironically the golden age of the country. Then 9/11 happened, and it's all been downhill from there.

>>10208537
Ponytails are so cool!
-me at 8 years old

>>10208282
Wipeout 2097, silent hill or resident evil or doom or dume 3d or coomand and conquer ir starcraft or microsoft flight sim or civlisation or dune or warcraft 2 or diablo or sim

>>10208285
Bullshit and nothingburger. Imagine thinking that mattered more than doom in the 90s. For fuck sake anon.

>>10220394
ironic, sinve the 50s were better than the 90s in every way. the "optimism" from the 90s was fake and gay and I'm glad it's gone. Im glad people are actually becoming redpilled on how fucked the world is instead of living in a bubble like in the 90s. with ow without 9/11 america was going downhill since the 60s.

>it was unironically the golden age of the country
50s

>the economy was doing great
nope. wages haven't kept up with inflation since the 70s

>the biggest political scandal was whether the president got his dick sucked or not
just because you were a bluepilled cuck living in a bubble doesn't mean nothing happened in the 90s. the 90s like every decade since the 60s pushed politics further to the left, CA turned blue permanently, more feminism, rise of nigger culture, etc.

>The cold war finally ended after half a century
funny how the US was actually better off when the cold war was happening. there is no way in hell you're going to tell me the 90s were better than the 40s or 50s

> technological progress was booming at an incredible rate
and look where that got us

>>10208282
Depends what you mean.

Toejam & Earl and its sequel is very representative of that generic, funky, Nickelodeon-esque 90s feel people not living in the era think is best representative of it. You can extend this to weird and grossout elements with Earthworm Jim and Boogerman.

In the grimdark, edgy, rock and roll style you have games like Loaded/ReLoaded, Apochalypse, Doom and Twisted Metal.

Your late 90s/early 2000s style with WipeOut, Jetset Radio and various dreamcast stuff.

90s anime feel with Keio Flying Squadron 1 and 2 and various WorkingDesigns stuff

Myst and similar capture that 90s CGI, virtual world style. Donkey Kong Country as well could fall into this.

The 2kool4skool, radical cereal mascot niche is obviously reflected in Sonic, though stuff like Tony Hawk also fits in there. Various other snarky mascots of the era like Spyro and Gex are off shoots of this.

Earthbound captures the feel probably closest to being a kid in the 90s in the suburbs or like similar live action kids movies of the era in that kinda environment, plus kooky weirdness and even that 60s nostalgia of the 90s with its small Beatles and pop culture references

Obviously Pokemon as just representative of a collective cultural phenomenon everyone shared, though the actual in game world may be a mix of 70s, 80s and 90s suburban Japan.

Age of Empires and Civilization 2 capture that 90s Dad PC Game vibe. Flight sims also.


I would say there is no true single greatest representative of the decade.

>>10216037
>>>10214805 (You)
>i remember watching a married with children 3d special with the red and blues. think we had to get them from 7-11

I use to watch married With Children too, but it was on a Canadian channel, and I was not aware of that. But neat.

>>10220327
>>>10215759 (You)
>Orb 3D on NES also came with a set of these
Interesting.

I also forgot that Nintendo Power gave out the clear/ grey 3D glasses with this issue of Nintendo Power, so you could see the Virtual Boy screenshots in 3D. I had this issue too. I had a 3-year subscription from 1994 to 1996.

Fatal Fury 3

>>10220616
I agree with some of this. The US plateaued in the 50's-90's is the why I like to think of it. The 50's is for sure the peak of the country. At least at the moment. Everything has been kind of a slow down hill though. The economy in the 90's was good if you were already rich or were investing in globo-homo because there was no real economic competition. China was was still America's toy makers and the former USSR was importing from the west Adidis track suits of all things. The gopnik became a meme. So if you were. in business already you were doing great. I don't think wages are necessarily the only thing to look at to judge an economy's health but yeah wages were stagnant and nothing Wall Street did could help that as much as the media would want you to believe. I look back kn the era fondly but not because of economic policy or anything like that. Just the people. The places. All of that is gone. We're not going to get that feeling back. It's one of those things that instead of wanting to run forward I should have just planted my heels and enjoyed the moment. In many ways it was kind of a frightening decade. We should have payed more attention to it. There's missed clues there about the kind of world we have today hidden in that decade. Some kind of (((unseen force))) driving us to our own end. In many ways video games were a remedy to that. Video Games until Gamergate were a white male thing. It was a safe space for men to be men. To conquer, to fight, to race and do all of those things we wanted to do. There's a reason they blamed shit like Columbine on violent video games and rock/metal. They don't want us to have a bastion like video gaming offered. It was very much an underground for us to escape to.

>>10220616
You will never have an ethnostate.

>>10220715
>kind of a frightening decade. We should have payed more attention to it. There's missed clues there about the kind of world we have today hidden in that decade.
I wouldn't think about it too much. the damage was already done and all the laws that fucked America over minus the Patriot Act already existed in the 90s. the only differene between the 90s and now is the time it took for the effecrs to worsen. and 9/11 did nothing more than what was innevitably going to happen anyway. without 9/11 we would've been were we are now by the 2030s maybe, or maybe it could be even worse, as 9/11 united the nation for 10 years, so you'd have the woke shit even sooner.

>In many ways video games were a remedy to that.
it was, but the problem with games in general is that they drag on too long and to fully enjoy video games you'd have to be a "loser" and binge 100h into them. the 80s-00s had a shit ton of escapism fo us to escape from reality, but that came back to bite us in the ass as we were too busy enjoying our entertainment while the left was constantly gaining ground. in a way having our hobbies fucked over is a good snap back to reality that we should get more active and fight back.

I'll be honest. I don't want to go back anymore. I don't want to go back to being a bluepilled cuck living in a bubble. sure the world is shittier, but that's what would take to redpill people to fight back and build a better future. i'm not losing hope no matter how bad things get.

>They don't want us to have a bastion like video gaming offered.
It's true. vidya was the only thing that they still didn't control and they were scared of it. it's why the 1991-2007 golden period was so good. it was artistic experession completely independent from the control of the elites. Rock and Metal was pushed by these elites too as it was a way to push degeneracy like drugs and pre-martial sex.

>>10220616
The 90's were also the decade in which synthetic drugs were turned into something "cool", ideal to make you enjoy parties better and increase the number of days you could stay awake without sleeping. This mostly affected technoheads, so Americans/Canadians might nor relate with that.

Anyway, this is part of the lyrics of a popular song among technohead youth back in the day, so you can get an idea of the feel of the time:

"Hold it! I wanna talk about drugs.
Heroin?
No, not heroin
Speed?
No, not speed
Hashish?
No, not even hashish
Horse tranquilizers?
No, not horse tranquilizers
I just heard about this new drug that makes you happy
I just wanna say: fuck happy!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oYMjpsGofA

>>10221481
Also, plenty of techno songs talking about cocaine, but can't remember the titles now.

>>10208317
true

reminds me of tude-sack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gsAipzojj4

>>10221481
>DEM MOTOROLAZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHaJ2rbTDQ

>>10214753
my nigga, nothing captures the spirit of the turn of the millennium like Wipeout 3, its peak 90s kino and the end of the PS1 era, it was all downhill for gaming from then on

>>10220229
In Normality, the protagonist's bedroom has a telly which displays several Teletext images

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-0urWaLOgg

>>10215814
yeah Cool Spot had the 'tude

>>10217835
Yeah but it was never cool. Rap metal/mallgoth/Juggalo shit was never actually cool, it was popular but with basically the smelly people everyone else made fun of. Zoomers who weren't alive at the time try to re-imagine it as something it wasn't,

>>10226385
As a zoomer and I always imaged the 90s to be defined by grunge in first the half and trance in the 2nd half. the other genres didn't really "define" the decade to me.

>>10226408
nta, but nu-metal (Korn, Limp Bizkit etc) was really popular in the late 90s when I was about 16, where i'm from anyway. Offspring was popular too. Normies just listened to pop music though, whatever was on the radio, like now I guess. These guys were popular too (starts at about 1:45)
https://youtu.be/XflfiylNNXY?t=107
Games though it was all just playstation 1 and nintendo 64 really in the late 90s at school, i didn't know anyone with a saturn or dreamcast. And PC games weren't that great at the time other than Doom and Quake really, mostly because computers were so expensive, like I remember my mom paying several thousand dollars for a pretty average 486 in the early 90s

>>10226408
Before trance you had techno, then house, before house you had disco, I'd say house music defined the rave scene around early-mid 80s. Grunge was more a rock scene, which is a whole other matter entirely. I'd say grunge is late 80s, meaning neither genre originated in the 90s. Technically grunge is just an umbrella term to define the rock scene at that time, specifically Seattle's if you want to get granular about it, and very loosely defined what a rock band looked and sounded like at that point in time. Not quite as rehearsed and theatrical as then-contemporary superstar acts like Van Halen, Metallica, or, I dunno, Nitro. The Mothers. Whatever.

If you want to talk about grunge as an advertising design concept that's another conversation entirely.

>>10226385
Lots of people though that shit was cool that's why it was popular. It was in the 00s it became lame when that fad ended

>>10226540
Grunge's roots are in the late 80s sure, but its significance to culture outside of seattle is definitely within the early - mid 90s, that's when it was a defining trend in music and when anybody knew about it who wasn't just really in tune to a local scene in the northwest.

A lot of shit when it comes to decades bleeds into one another a little bit anyway, lots of shit in the early 90s was bleeding over from the 80s, just like the early 00s was mostly defined by shit lingering from the late 90s, etc.

>>10226571
Lots of uncool people thought it was cool, yeah. Dorky kids who wore Dragonball Z button up silk shirts and played with Yomegas and Homies figures thought it was just "sick dawg".

This is what zoomers don't get. Because they don't understand the CD era, they don't know how something largely considered bad in music circles could still sell a lot of albums, but there are big demographics for anything and especially if it's aimed at younger kids like nu metal you can make lots of money. Everyone made fun of boy bands too, and they were still the biggest thing on Earth at the time.

>>10226572

>decades bleeds into one another a little bit anyway
true
>lots of shit in the early 90s was bleeding over from the 80s, just like the early 00s was mostly defined by shit lingering from the late 90s, etc.
they're not the same. the transition from the 80s to the 90s was smooth and natural and happened in the span of 3-4 years and the 90s started around 1993-1994
the transition from the 90s to the 00s happened in 1 DAY.

>>10226580
>the transition from the 90s to the 00s happened in 1 DAY.
How do you mean, cause to me very little changed until around the mid 00s when we entered another stage of cancer with "emo kids" and the Myspace era. Early 00s was a lot of the same shit from the late 90s. Unless you mean the late 90s wasn't a smooth transition from the early 90s, in which case I can kinda see how that would be so

>>10226592
Nah emo was the last subculture with SOVL

>>10226592
the entire world changed. in just 1 day the optimistic, laid back and carefree attitude of the late 90s turned into fear and paranoia about TERRORISM TERRORISM TERRORISM. shit just mindbroke people.

>>10226603
>weak and pathetic men wanting to kill themselves is...LE SOVL

>>10226580
Grunge was commercialized around the early 90s, the house/rave scene avoided all that until grunge committed commercial suicide along with kurt and it stopped making money for record companies, aka the notable change in commercial tone during the mid 90s. The new thing was skate punk and other more listenable and marketable subgenres for the mall punks, candy groupies and other hanger-ons to consume instead. Grunge advertising as a design style died around 98 with an appeal towards minimalist Y2K design versus maximalist grunge design

>>10226592
The 00s wasn't culturally calcified during the early-mid 2000s. MCR frontman cited a specific day as the day he felt inspired to form MCR, it caused many people to reevaluate the world we live in. It was this day. You really didn't know?

Surprised no one posted this yet. Not saying it's the most 90's, but look at this cunt. He was outdated even at the time of release.

>>10226408
Overall, the 90's had an increase of radicalness and being over the top.
You can notice this by watching the Nintendo championship of the earliest 90's and comparing it with the Sega championship of the more "core 90's"

Nintendo Championship 1990 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXC20eO8QiU

Sega Championship 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiI1ErFEO5Y

>>10226605
>the entire world changed. in just 1 day the optimistic, laid back and carefree attitude of the late 90s turned into fear and paranoia about TERRORISM TERRORISM TERRORISM. shit just mindbroke people.
Bro the late 90s had Marilyn Manson the "antichrist superstar" causing mass panic among parents and the retards in Korn screaming about wanting to die cause bullies and wah wah whatever the fuck. Not to mention, the entire ethos of the grunge scene revolved around pessimism, drug abuse, and depression. 90s music was largely the era that darkness and angst reigned, especially compared to the 80s in which the mainstream rock was all about partying and good times shit.

Of course I mostly always listened to rock so that's where my perspective comes from, but all that stuff was indicative of the times and wasn't like underground, it was all mainstream shit. Sure, on the other hand you had happy pop shit but you always have that, that didn't change either.

>>10226654
I don't see how emo, screamo, etc was much different either. It was just the continued evolution of teen angst centric shit that at that point had been going on for a while. We had Korn, then Linkin Park, then 9/11 and then we had MCR and Fallout Boy, what's the difference tonally? I never understand the narrative that 9/11 changed culture or attitudes in pop culture. I didn't notice a significant shift in culture until like the 2010s when we entered the hellish times of.....well, modern culture.

>>10226992
>Bro the late 90s had Marilyn Manson the "antichrist superstar" causing mass panic among parents and the retards in Korn screaming about wanting to die cause bullies and wah wah whatever the fuck. Not to mention, the entire ethos of the grunge scene revolved around pessimism, drug abuse, and depression. 90s music was largely the era that darkness and angst reigned, especially compared to the 80s in which the mainstream rock was all about partying and good times shit.
>Of course I mostly always listened to rock so that's where my perspective comes from, but all that stuff was indicative of the times and wasn't like underground, it was all mainstream shit. Sure, on the other hand you had happy pop shit but you always have that, that didn't change either.

Grunge came out of the Seattle music scene, with bands like the obvious Niravana being the front runner, Sound Garden, Pearl Jam, Hole, Alice in Chains, etc. Grunge was an attempt by the record companies to group them all under one label, along with any other band that sounded like them. Grunge fell apart, because most of the bands were reluctant to use that title., including Nirvana. I would say that around the same time, 'Alternative' was coming into popularity through events like Lollapalooza. This is where groups like Nine Inch Nails, Tool and Marilyn Manson got big, Late 90's was the short lived rise of NuMetal with Limp Bizkit and Korn and whatever. But then there's also the east coast and west coast rap scene. With gansta rap becoming big at the time. Boy bands were big from mid 90's onwards. Brit pop became big in the later 90's for a while. It was almost like the 'anti-grunge movement' with Blur, Oasis, Spice Girls, etc. I was 18 years old in 1999 and listened to a lot of this stuff. I grew up in Canada with Much Music (RIP) . It's hard to categorize it all, because each 'portion' of the 90's had its' own music fads.

>>10226992
>Bro the late 90s had Marilyn Manson the "antichrist superstar" causing mass panic among parents and the retards in Korn screaming about wanting to die cause bullies and wah wah whatever the fuck. Not to mention, the entire ethos of the grunge scene revolved around pessimism, drug abuse, and depression. 90s music was largely the era that darkness and angst reigned, especially compared to the 80s in which the mainstream rock was all about partying and good times shit.

Grunge came out of the Seattle music scene of the late 80's, with bands like the obvious Niravana being the front runner, Sound Garden, Pearl Jam, Hole, Alice in Chains, etc. It was an attempt by the record companies to group all the groups that had the 'Seattle sound' under one label, along with any other band that sounded like them. It all fell apart after most of the bands were reluctant to brand themselves as Grunge, including Nirvana. Pearl Jam didn't consider themselves to be in the same genre as Nirvana, for example. I would say that around the same time, 'Alternative' was coming into popularity through events like Lollapalooza. This is where groups like Nine Inch Nails, Tool and Marilyn Manson got big, Late 90's was the short lived rise of NuMetal with Limp Bizkit and Korn and whatever. But then there's also the east coast and west coast rap scene. With gansta rap becoming big at the time. Boy bands were big from mid 90's onwards. Brit pop became big in the later 90's for a while. It was almost like the 'anti-grunge movement' with Blur, Oasis, Spice Girls, etc. I was 18 years old in 1999 and listened to a lot of this stuff. I grew up in Canada with Much Music (RIP) . It's hard to categorize it all, because each 'portion' of the 90's had its' own music fads.

>>10226992
Really? Marilyn Manson is how you measure the overall cultural attitude of an entire decade?

The 90s were a time of great optimism. The Wall had fallen, the Soviet Union was over and Western liberalism had triumphed. History ended, or so people thought. In the West the 90s were also a time of great economic growth. 9/11 and the internet ruined this and now we're doomed to live in decline until China will finally overtake us and we'll be degraded to a former Empire ruined by mass immigration and climate change.

I, for one, welcome our new Chink overlords.

>retro games

>>10208285
A few other eurodance-ish songs in retro games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjCuLXcCR3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGK76WmoWU

>>10227079
america's downfall started in 1913. you were just too bluepilled and stupid to know that. 9/11 did nothing more than wake you up to that fact. everything, every law that doomed america minus the Patriot Act already existed in the 90s. the only difference between the 90s and now is the time it took for the effects to get worse.

You should be grateful you no longer live in a bubble and are able to see the truth. the "optimism" of the 90s was fake and gay and I'm glad it's over.

>>10227262
Im not an american and please take meds thanks

>>10221481
Illegal raves in the 80's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648UkmmTG5w

Legal raves in the 90's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8G8cdbPmp8

>>10227262
>he thinks the course of history is determined by laws
>obsessed with blue/red pill dichotomy
>speaks in religious/mystical terms about reality ("doomed", "see the truth" etc)
>hardly backs up his rant with arguments or concrete facts
Yep it's a /pol/ schizo. The 90s were a great time for video games and for some it's better to just leave it at that.

>>10227321
What a great reminder that i fucking hate parties and "raves"

>>10227329
>he thinks the course of history isn't determined by laws

look no further than how much women's rights, 1965 Immigration Act, the Civil Rights movement, race mixing, legalization of pornography, stagnation of wages since the 70s, and of course, the Federal Reserve Act printing infinite money and destroying the dollar fucked over the country.

>The 90s were a great time for video games
agreed

>>10213824
the only game to not make it the faggiest thing ever

>>10208537
Kek I actually have a gen-X co-worker who looks like the guy from comix zone.
>long blonde ponytail
>fingerless gloves
>cargo shorts
>glasses
I guarantee you he probably also wears a vest like that when he's not in his work uniform.

>>10226487
>And PC games weren't that great at the time
U wot mate? 90s/early 2000s was the truest era of PC gaming past the micros. The vast majority of pc gaming associated genres either dont exist anymore or are bastardized beyond recognition. PC is now primarily just a console alternative instead of feeling like its own unique platform of IPs and genres.

>>10227441
>PC is now primarily just a console alternative instead of feeling like its own unique platform of IPs and genres.
same could be said in reverse. actually PC still has lots of exclusives because of indies.

>>10216508
>Geo Tracker
holy shit

>>10227071
>Really? Marilyn Manson is how you measure the overall cultural attitude of an entire decade?
All I'm saying is, the 90s was the decade of angst ridden rock, which was a new thing rock hadn't been in the 80s or 70s which were much more celebratory and rock was associated not with brooding and moping but with partying and weekend warrior shit. It was a big cultural shift so it's hard for me to think of the 90s as the most optimistic era musically, as primarily a rock fan. I know everything doesn't revolve around that POV but rock was still a significant like, half of the mainstream music world.

Also regarding Manson, he was a pretty big deal. People love to talk about 9/11 come the 00s, but there was Columbine in the 90s, and the press Manson got because of that was gigantic since he was used as a scapegoat for it. The "Satanic Panic" of the 80s was still going strong in the 90s as well as the general witchhunt against violent media. See Mortal Kombat inspiring the rating system for video games.

The 90s was also a very edgy time, Spawn was the most popular superhero for a while so what does that tell you lmao. It was not a time about things that were saccharine and friendly. Hell, I totally forgot how much hatred Barney the Dinosaur inspired, people were edgy.

>>10228609
I'm curious when this whole "l e90s optimistic and perfect until le 9/11 happened" narrative started. I didn't hear about this until this hear. it sounds a lot like late millennial/zoomer revisionism

>>10228609
I'm curious when this whole "le 90s optimistic and perfect until le 9/11 happened" narrative started. I didn't hear about this until this year. it sounds a lot like late millennial/zoomer revisionism

>>10228891
I mean economically it might have been good, idk cause I've never paid attention to such things. Also, it was a good time to be a kid, so I understand having positive memories with it, but in terms of the zeitgeist and pop culture, it was hardly like the era of sunshine and happiness.

>>10228609
I look back on the demented playground songs we'd sing and wonder if the zoomer equivalent is just noghop. Wasn't there one about slicing barney's throat?

>>10220394
>90's
>optimistic
Wat. Where you even alive in the 90's?
90's was a classic "heroin/opioid decade". A hangover from the 80's. Everything was a downer, everyone was ironic and detached, if you weren't then you were a "try-hard". Then 9/11 broke the malaise for the next decade until everything swung back into opioid-drenched irony again.

>>10220616
Society was already rotting by the 50's. I don't mean in the twitter lefty "everyone was a secret addict/gay/rapist" sense, I mean that society was already being subverted and the stage was being set for the societal upheaval that followed. The nice clean white picket fence image was just the façade.

>>10228609
>>10228906
You Americans are fucking retarded. Is American pop culture all you know? The optimism I'm talking about pertains to the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union, the end of communism and the idea the entire world will achieve world peace through liberal democracy. This was a common view among the intelligentsia of the time. Barney the dinosaur and Marilyn fucking Manson don't have anything to do with that fucking retards. Read a book for once damn.

>>10227367
>>10220616
Is niggers, women, gays and trannies literally all you can think about? There is more going on the world you know.

The nazi's lost. Deal with it, schizoid.

>>10227051
>It was an attempt by the record companies to group all the groups that had the 'Seattle sound' under one label, along with any other band that sounded like them. It all fell apart after most of the bands were reluctant to brand themselves as Grunge, including Nirvana. Pearl Jam didn't consider themselves to be in the same genre as Nirvana, for example.

One of the main reasons why 'Grunge' fizzled out so quickly, was because most of the original 'grunge' bands existed before the term grunge was ever coined. The label Grunge may have been coined by a alt-rock magazine that covered the Seattle music scene, because most of the bands did have a 'dirty' sound to them that made them seem grungy. But then record labels like subpop picked up on it and started using to to classify all the Seattle bands under the same label. Kurt Cobain said multiple times in interviews that he never liked Nirvana being called grunge, as he felt that it stiffed the bands' creative output. he wanted Nivana to evolve in sound beyond basic guitars, drums and 3 chord progression. Pearl jam considered themselves to be more under the 'blues' sub genre. Alice in Chains didn't really like being called grunge. Grunge was one of the most self defeating sub genres of the 90's.

>>10227051
>Grunge came out of the Seattle music scene of the late 80's, with bands like the obvious Niravana being the front runner, Sound Garden, Pearl Jam, Hole, Alice in Chains, etc. It was an attempt by the record companies to group all the groups that had the 'Seattle sound' under one label, along with any other band that sounded like them.

One of the main reasons why 'Grunge' fizzled out so quickly, was because most of the original 'grunge' bands existed before the term grunge was ever coined. The label Grunge may have been coined by a alt-rock magazine that covered the Seattle music scene, because most of the bands did have a 'dirty' sound to them that made them seem grungy. But then record labels like subpop picked up on it and started using to to classify all the Seattle bands under the same label. Kurt Cobain said multiple times in interviews that he never liked Nirvana being called grunge, as he felt that it stiffed the bands' creative output. he wanted Nivana to evolve in sound beyond basic guitars, drums and 3 chord progression. Pearl jam considered themselves to be more under the 'blues' sub genre. Alice in Chains didn't really like being called grunge. Grunge was one of the most self defeating sub genres of the 90's.

I post Normality. because Normality is pretty 90's.

>>10220246
holy freakin' based

and thats so true i keep living that dream.

Based Big Tunes Billy will do it with NWA

>>10220616
>>10227367
Based and factual

>>10229465
>>10227329
>Stop focusing on forces that are ruining everything! Stop having a problem with your country being flushed down the toilet! Stop noticing things! Muh bing bing wahoo vidya gaems are still good!

>>10229483
>fires Jim Cornette for making a joke about hungry Ethiopians

>>10229486
welp... yeah that was cringe but nobody is perfect anon

Pre-plandemic NWA was top KINO wrestling

>>10229484
You're unironically mentally ill, but you'll always be unable to see this.

>>10229484
This is your brain being rotten by being on the internet and consuming entertainment 24/7. I'm not stupid enough to have a debate with you, sorry.

>/pol/ leaking
>jannies do nothing about it
This shit wouldn't fly on this board a year ago. Wtf happened?

A lot of 90's partygoers would wear pacifiers, can you guess why? Hint: It was NOT a question of aesthetics.

>>10214778
I fucking love that movie, the soundtrack is impeccable

>>10229671
yeah anon, that was the real deal. When movies were just about having fun.

Also can´t avoid great documentaries like this
https://inv.zzls.xyz/watch?v=Qn3g2gzgjfM

stuck in my VHS when i was a kid

>>10229676
>When movies were just about having fun.
I mean, hackers was a fun movie, there's no denying that, but it was definitely trying to make a statement which was very much of its time as well

>>10228609
whatre you on about 70s had all kindsa metal popping up, it wasnt just yes and ELP and shitty disco. you obv had zep and sabbath, who dominated the decade, but even the bar rock started to get heavy af towards the end cuz all the early punkrockers they had been playing alongside cough cough ROKY ERIKSON AND THE FUCKING EXPLOSIVES embedrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx8N6GRjf1o
80s is literally the decade that birthed thrash
nvm all the heavier/hardcore punk shit like poison idea, negative approach, jerrys kids etc etc etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weGJ1kfUkkA
all edgier than marilyn in his dumb make-up ever was

if anything 90s was the first decade to commodify and domesticate angry rock. and that was really only in the wake of nirvana. once all the major labels caught wind of their astronomical record sales, they all wanted a piece of that pie.

tl;dr
idk id put 80s as the edgiest decade by far, with 90s as the decade where edginess was now on sale 50% off BUY BUY BUY

>>10229680
sure, even Total Recall made a statement that is valid for nowadays or movies like Gatacca also are ahead of his time but all those movies have the same in common are funny and entertainment as hell

>>10229624
methylenedioxymethamphetamine?

>>10229691
>methylenedioxymethamphetamine?
Its MDMA and i'm feeling fucking horny, where's ur mum at? lets start an orgy.