/vr/ - Retro Games

Upset zoomer thread.

>>10205993
I was 11 when this came out and everyone I knew had a GBA but literally nobody had an e-Reader. Nowadays it's the kind of thing that exists just so people make Youtube videos about it

>>10205993
Mario Party E is based.
Trading cards is badass.
This thing is kind of dumb though.
Devil's advocate.

That would pair well with on-cart dlc.

You were supposed to download new level data into Mario 3, extra trainer battles into Pokemon. It's the same as amiibo.
They probably had some sort of logistics problem because most content was never released.

I got this with my gba as a kid. It sucked so damn bad. You had to swipe so many cards to play excitebike without saves. The fucking thing only remembers one piece of software at a time. If it could hold a lot of software and really leveraged Pokemon cards for something, could have been cool. You could have shared cards with others and stuff. Anyway, the music was so good I can still hear it in perfect detail. I really expected this to be a big part of gba and gamecube stuff. But it just never showed up again for me outside of some weird text at the animal crossing post office. I had the e-reader. I had animal crossing. Why the fuck weren't the cards available? It's like they didn't even try after they sold the hardware

>>10205993
Yeah, Digimon made scanning cards look super cool so I got an e-reader.
I also thought it would magically work with all of my pokemon cards, I didn't realize you needed special ones.

I still think the card scanning aspect is cool, but it was retarded that you needed two GBAs to do a lot of things. If it was a passthrough device like a gameshark I think it would have been more successful.

>>10205993
The animal crossing ones were cool because each card two functions: the gift when you scanned it and then if you wrote a letter to the animal on the card you’d receive a letter back the next day with a gift attached, often a NES game or something rare.

I had one when it was current. It was a fun novelty to get a cheap game on cards and adding bonus features to games was cool. But yes, while as a young teen it felt like I uses it for a while, in reality it was probably something I used for like 6 months then never touched again.

why does nu-/vr/ making these seething threads like /v/ as if this were some new marketed peripheral

>>10206189
youre just as bad esl faggot

>>10205993
Even as someone who was obsessed with trading cards and the gameboy, i never owned one. seemed dumb, and seemed to defeat the purpose of portability since you needed to bring a bulky accessory and a pack of cards with you.
using it to unlock extra levels in other games seemed pretty cool tho

>>10206205
seething over a typo

Hold on a sec, let me scan in these 20 cards every time I want to play this NES game.

>>10206209
>seething
just as bad

>>10205993
>scanning cards into your gameboy is cool because...
You can get extra content, levels, items, games even, even ones you write yourself.

>>10206475
locking video game gameplay behind trading cards is not cool

Cool idea. Pretty much completely bodged execution.
The E reader should have been a pack in with the system, and then they could have given away cards at events and stuff, which would warm people up to the idea of buying more cards.
Certain Pokemon cards probably should have contained scan data too, since people were already buying Pokemon cards.
They could have done a lot with it. They just kind of didn't.

>got a warning for "trolling" for making a humorous remark in another thread
Oh great. The autistic mod is back.

>>10206151
>you needed two GBAs to do a lot of things. If it was a passthrough device like a gameshark I think it would have been more successful.
Good lord, that makes this piece of shit look even more pathetic. What the fuck was Nintendo smoking back then?

Paid DLC

I mean people already pay for cards that do fucking nothing so I don't see how it's such a bad deal for your cards to be encoded with software

>>10206485
But locking it behind cartridges is? Zoomerlogic.

The NES games made sense because the cost of manufacturing a cart and a chip would be more expensive than pieces of paper and a clamshell packaging. Granted, with Animal Crossing, it was more cost effective to just get that and unlock the NES games.

>>10206009
I had an e-reader. It sucked.
Scan too slow? READ ERROR
Scan too fast? READ ERROR
Try to scan without dragging the side of the card? READ ERROR

It was cool, I was really upset at how this thing barely released outside of japan. I only knew one person that had one, had relatives in jew york that he visited every year and that's how he got it.

>>10205993
Not /vr/ but wasn't that ammibo shit or whatever it was called on 3DS basically the same thing?

>>10206189
Because a bunch of faggots want /vr/ to be /v/

>>10206189
well, it's not like those marketing peripherals were widely liked even in /vr/ era, right? right? shrugs.

never owned one, but are the cards durable by trading card standards? i imagine theyd wear down pretty fast if youre swapping between games a lot

>>10207174
They're literally the same as pokemon cards.

>>10206858
I've had a buttload of these things and some really had trouble reading cards. Cleaning didn't even help with some. Others worked great and had a large tolerance for speeds.

>>10205993
I thought it was neat, okay? I totally bought into it at the time and even bought a few packs with the money I made mowing lawns.

You'd need a whole-ass other Game Boy and link cable turned on with SMB3 in the slot to transfer e-reader data to. The NES games they ported over were the super simple arcade games like Donkey Kong, Balloon Fight and shit. And they were 5 cards each that needed to be scanned twice. In order. The Animal Crossing cards required the Gamecube link cable.

The e-reader also "fits" on the GBA SP but you're bending the link port to shit, potentially damaging the addon, and you can only use it for the NES and Game and Watch cards.

It was novel for one summer, then the NES classic cartridges were released, then shortly after the NDS was announced.

>>10207494
>The e-reader also "fits" on the GBA SP but you're bending the link port to shit, potentially damaging the addon,
The port doesn't bend at all. The only problem is the SP can't close fully with it in.

>and you can only use it for the NES and Game and Watch cards.
You can use the link cable if you use the port on the SP itself. The port on the e-reader is just a small extension/passthrough cable.

The coolest thing they could have done with the eReader was included game cards inside other games or as preorder shit.

Imagine if you bought Minish Cap new, and you open up the box and you find an eReader card that let you play the original Zelda Game&Watch.

Imagine you bought Pokemon Colosseum and you got a Pikachu card with code strips along all 4 sides that let you play some little score attack Pokemon themed game AND the card was usable in the TCG.

Imagine you preordered Mario Party 7 and EB Games gives you a promotional pack of cards for Wrecking Crew.

It was a cool idea as a budget add-on to release tiny games on, almost like a GBA equivalent to the Famicom Disk System. Instead it was mostly just DLC type shit. A real shame and fuck them for canceling the Game&Watch series.

>>10206512
>Certain Pokemon cards probably should have contained scan data too, since people were already buying Pokemon cards.
They did do this actually. They either had a Pokedex entry you could look at or a mini-game, though the jewishness required you to get Pokemon of a set, so like for example if you wanted the game with Charizard (not sure if that was an actual one), you need all of its pre-evolutions which had the rest of the data to play the game on their cards.

>>10207494
>The e-reader also "fits" on the GBA SP but you're bending the link port to shit
Youtube lied to you. So your entire post was a redditot larp?

>>10206475
>even ones you write yourself.
What do you mean by this?

>>10206151
I want one of these. I hate that every Digimon gadget that isnt the 20th or X is retarded expensive.

>>10207635
>though the jewishness required you to get Pokemon of a set
Each card could only hold like, 5kb per strip.
They even had to cheat by keeping a library of images, sound effects and music in the e-reader's rom that the minigames could use.

>>10207626
Mario 3 included a pack of cards, and Ruby and Sapphire each came with a trainer battle card.
The eon ticket card came in an issue of nintendo power.

I want to say some of the pokemon dvds came with cards too but I might be making that up.

>>10207653
They could have put the strips on both sides as the borders of the card, probably on the shorter top and bottom ends as well. Since you need 3 cards for most of the games (if not all), you could have gotten a whole game onto one card since they only did one strip per card.

Likewise, the NES games could have cut down on the amount needed using the backsides of the cards.

>>10207659
Yeah but thats DLC shit, im talking like having full games included. They gave out the air hockey one for free, it would be cool to have little games like that packed in with all first party releases across the GBA and Cube.

Man fuck those gba scanners, it was all about the barcode scanners. Felt like a fucking genius taking it to the shops when we’d go food shopping and just rack up more and more car parts.

I actually didnt even realize the eReader had the ability to save a game on it apparently. This thread made me want to dig out mine and dick around with it and it still had Air Hockey saved onto its memory. I was expecting read errors from the cards, but everyone worked fine on first try. I also never noticed the actual reading part is not the entire slide through section, but just a small lens and it actually is lit up.

>>10205993
It was cool because I fucking loved Digimon Tamers.

>>10206214
What's sadder is nintendo released a bunch of shitty NES ports for GBA so you could just buy those. And ereader cards were made for animal crossing which had free nes games so it you had animal Crossing ecards why would you need nes games

>>10207659
There was a 4kids card with a shitty sonic and kirby slide show

>>10207639
Games are written by people. They don't grow on trees or something.

>>10207653
>like, 5kb per strip.
Not even that much. But with the code and assets in the builtin ROM you could accomplish quite a lot in very little space Still, the loading process was tedious.

>>10205993
It always felt like a cheap money grab by Nintendo.
The fact that they locked away levels you could NEVER play in SMA4 was pretty much the beginning of the end imo

>>10208482
thankfully nintendo released the rom with all the world e levels unlocked in the wii u eshop and piratefags extracted it so you can put it in a flashcart or buy picrel from chink sites

Nintendo should have partnered with Atari/Infogrames and done an Atari 2600 series. Those games were probably just small enough to work well enough with the size limitations and that was still around the height of nostalgia for the system.

>>10205993
I only ever wanted one of these for Animal Crossing GameCube because I played it obsessively back in the day. Didn't seem like it would be worth purchasing for anything else so I didn't.

>>10206205
filtered EOP

>>10207676
They did put data on both long sides of most cards.
Pokemon cards had data on one long and one short side.

>>10209850
They didn't ok the Pokemon ones. The short codes were just for pokedex entries, long strips were only put on one side. Some of the minigames apparently needed as many as 5 cards because of that, though some they were able to fit little cartoons on just 1 strip. Apparently there was also some kind of customizable game as well where you could scan certain cards to change the music and graphics.

Also from the Mario Partye deck, the Waluigis Reign game straight up uses the music from Return of the Jedi for Jabba's palace.

>>10209867
*didn't on the

>>10209867
Some pokemon card sets required you to have two of the same pokemon.
They look identical with the same artwork but the serial numbers and dot codes are different.
Also, none of the gen 3 pokemon have long dot codes. The e-reader failed too soon and whoever was developing the minigames quit before they got that far.

Does anyone know if the JP readers will work on US gba?

>>10210516
Yes. I do know if the JP readers will work on US gba.

>>10205993
Has an official SDK been leaked for that device anywhere?
>inb4 open source figured it out
Not what I'm asking.
I'm looking for official.
>leaked sdks
>(s)nes
>n64
>gamecube
>game boy (color/advance)
but nothing for that particular device, the e-reader.
>why are you so interested?
there are questions i have about the transition period between 5th and 6th gen, and i feel there are a lot of answers to the hunches i have for a timeline of events via cross-referencing occurrences in technological approaches and solutions.

>>10209004
>US seller

>>10205993
MFW my magic of gathering and pokemon card collection has competition

>>10210771
>official
>official!
That depends entirely on what you mean by "official" "Officially" 4chan is a "free speech" board. In reality, it's a "call a bloke a bloke and get banned" board. Just watch. You'll have to be more [obedient].

>>10211047
quite a lot of quotation marks you got there, freeman12393.

>>10210771
Nope. Your best chance would've been the 2020 Nintendo leaks. But unfortunately, the guy behind that was a legit autist and mostly only cared about Pokemon. Anything else that came out of that was a happy accident.

>>10211226
Still hoping to see it someday.
I know there were occurrences predating the Giga Leak for leaked SDKs.
>Pokémon
There's a chance the franchise may have had some influence.
>N64
>Pokémon Stadium (2), developed by HAL, published by Nintendo
>GB Transfer Pak peripheral
>Kirby 64, Pokémon Snap, SSB - again, developed by HAL, published by Nintendo - this time using new data storage tech
>Giga Leak revealed official NES emulator for N64
>Animal Forest for N64 later released on GameCube as Animal Crossing
>Feature to play NES games loaded in from e-Reader peripheral
>e-Reader card data uses tech found in late N64 games made by HAL
>Pokémon TCG spread to the West in 1998, just in time for behind the scenes r&d
what a coincidence, gen 3 pokémon received the most e-reader content in the form of cards for pokedex entries
>HAL's tech is absent in their GC titles (possibly from being able to use tech that's more efficient on a supple platform)
>Wide Boy 64 from Intelligent Systems developed a GBA passthrough cartridge - widely presumed for journalists' pleasure to record quality footage and grab screenshots
It seems like autistic schizo babble, but many people forget how many years of r&d occur before products are released.
As kids, we'd just see commercials for sequential launch dates for games _during_ a system's lifecycle when development had already been underway for a few years.
The e-Reader feels like a fever dream engineering project.

I too would love to see some official manuals and demos on it. It would be cool as shit to rig up my own cards, even if it’s to do nothing except load homebrew.

>>10212725
Homebrew community figured it out already, but it's a pain in the ass to get set up.

>>10212725
See >>10212847
It's really not worth it. And you don't need official anything.

>>10207647
I feel you. I went back to watching old anime and started Digimon because I used to watch loose episodes on TV. The black 20th is sitting at £25, the black X doesn't have the digimon I want, no one makes custom shells, the Pendulum is the one with most digimon and can be modded but costs a kidney, anime color D2 is another kidney. Goof thing I kept my orange D2 from when I was a kid, so been rocking it. Damn thing goes for £150 nowadays. Also doesn't help that no physical shops sell these things.

I think if the feature had been built in to the GBA then it could have been pretty cool, but considering how bulky it was, and how impractical carrying it, and all the cards necessary to even play NES games made it a bad match for a portable console. If they could manage to squeeze an NES rom onto a single card then I think it would have had a chance to succeed and be cool.