/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1009671

Yes, it is. Isn't it equally selfish to want to "own" a machine and not give anyone else a chance to play? This is why I like fighting games. If someone is hogging the machine, just play against them and kick them off, better man wins.

Yes, that's how it is. You play until someone else wants to play, and then when you get a game over you let them play.
>implying you know shit about arcades

>>1009685
I don't think it's selfish if you got the money and were there first. It's how it works at the gym, you claim a machine and you work it until your done. Unless you're some jerk or just sits on it for 10 minutes between sets, then you should let others work in, but generally you use it for as long as you need. There's plenty of other equipment/games to keep the other people busy.

The solution is to just 1cc it.

>>1009691
its called common courtesy

Back in my day, there were lines. No putting quarters down. And you knew you were good at a fighting game (sf2 and mk for me) when no one would line up behind you but there would be a big line behind the other player

Personally I've never done it and it's never really happened to me. Most machines where I live are multiplayer so if someone's put in a credit while I'm playing it's normally because they want to join in, which I am more than happy to accomodate for that.
Nowadays I would say it's good manners to get off the machine at the end of your credit(s) in the machine.

in billiard usually you tap the table and then you play against the winner of the last game. the loser gets out of the table to let you play.

more or less the same in kicker.

i don't see why wouldn't it be the same for arcades, you can always get in queue again

>>1009691
Right except at a gym you are doing it to better yourself. Arcades are just masturbation, so if one guy is obsessed with only one game, he's going to hog it even if others want to play.

That's why you take turns at the arcade.

Thank god arcades are gone, because these kids would piss me off with their lack of etiquette

>>1009738
What you're using it for is irrelevant and the logic is flawed at best.

If it's a busy arcade, yes.

Credit feeding is considered very rude if there's other people that are waiting to play.

Although, a situation like in the comic wouldn't happen. You would just have everyone in the line glaring at you.

It's called courtesy and respect for others. They want to play the game just as much as you do, and their time is just as valuable as yours.

Putting the coin on the machine is basically the universal "I call next play", so that no one can take your spot in line. Not to throw someone off the machine. Generally the person on the machine has the respect to admit defeat and let the next person have a turn.

It happens over in Europe sometimes, not sure about the US. I don't mind it so much, it's just a way of ensuring that everyone gets a go

I've only seen this happen for fighting games, where the next challenger will put their quarter down to mark that they're up next. Never seen it happen for single player games.

I do not understand why the concepts of 'taking turns' and 'sharing' are so foreign to some people. Twelve year olds, sure; but grown fucking men? If I go to an arcade, and I want to play a specific game, I should have the chance. Someone will always be there first, and I shouldn't be shoe'd off to some other random game - if I want to play mvc, the answer isn't "go play para para instead". And I shouldn't have to wait hours, until fatso decided that he's finished.
Putting up coins is a way to make a line, its offering up collateral to save your spot. You take turns in order of coins.
It's pretty fucking simple. Come the fuck on.

>>1009671
That's how it used to work in arcades' heyday. You would put a quarter down to show that you wanted to play next. In fact it's surprising that Ronnie wouldn't know that.

When was about 13 I was playing some Golden Axe. Another kid came up, probably 10 or so, and put a quarter down then walked off, I guess to use the bathroom or get something. I died and it was time to go anyway, so I just took his quarter and left. It never occurred to me he was "staking a claim" or whatever. I just thought he had been watching me and was so impressed with my skill he wanted to treat me to a game so he could watch more.

>>1009869
>I just thought he had been watching me and was so impressed with my skill he wanted to treat me to a game so he could watch more.

That's actually pretty cute.

Kinda reminds me of when I was a kid, and my classmate convinced me cheats were illegal. Then he sold me loads of cheat codes over time. He scammed me good.

I was not a clever child.

>>1009729
Hey I remember lines
maybe people today could learn something

Theres an arcade here where you pay 5 dollars and all the machines are free and no one is ever rude at all they just wait until the other person is finished like a normal person. The arcade is so nostalgic has anything from Asteroids to Street Fighter 2

>>1009850
Not in my neighborhood. You stood near the guy playing and watched, and the person playing would ask if you want to play next. The guy watching would either say "I'm just watching" or "Yeah", and you'd finish when your quarter is done if he says the latter.

If you're trying to beat a game, especially when you're more than halfway through, you'd say "I'm pretty far, you mind if I try to beat this?", and hopefully they're not a dick and they'll either watch or find something else to play.


You still had the "blocking and throwing is cheap" faggots, but if you tried that shit in the Ronnie comic, you might get decked. Had nice arcades around here. Never very crowded and often more than one of a popular game. If a group of regulars came in, sometimes the owner would give them unlimited credits for a four-player beat-em up, or he'd jack up the difficulty on a random game and make it free. Good times.

>>1009671
There was never enough people in the arcade I went to so this never happened.
Might be why it was shut down.
I miss that place. The closest thing we have to an arcade now is chuckie cheese.

You either put your token/quarter/coin down or you inserted it and paid attention to how many other credits were in front of you.

That's kind of how it worked in arcades.

>>1009691

Is a gym coin operated like an arcade cabinet?

>>1009691
>It's how it works at the gym
actually a lot of gyms have a curtsey time of using the machine

>>1010194
$5. For all the machines.
How long do you have? Until you leave/it closes?
Why are the only arcades near me in movie theatres and bowling alleys?

Would it be rude to call next right after going off? Can't Ronnie just put a quarter on the machine?
>>1010390
I got an image in my mind of a bunch of ripped guys in dresses, curtseying each other as they get off the machines.

>>1010436
T-thanks /fit/

Actually, when I was in Taiwan, I visited an arcade quite frequently.

There were only a couple of SF machines, but the idea was that you "got next" when the other person was done playing. Your quarter just signified your position in line.

I was and still am okay with this.

>not being alpha enough to just slam the quarter in and extend your own play

Nobody fucks with me.

>>1009671
its etiquette to do so for a pool/snooker table in Britain. I've never heard of it for arcades although arcades are pretty much non-existant in Britain now

>>1010404
You have all day until it closes which is an excellent deal. They actually make a fair sum of money from what I can tell. And they are very nice people they have about 80+ arcade machines which make it well worth it

>>1009671
Learn to take turns. Just put your next quarter down right when he starts playing.

This was also done in the Broken Bones episode of Regular Show. Mordecai set down a quarter and said "I got next!"

You don't get better at arcade games by just feeding the machine either.

You're just fucking paying to win.

You aren't meant to use continues in arcades. I don't see a problem.

>>1009671
They don't "boot you off", you have until your credit runs out that's just a standard turn on the machine. Understandably if you're not used to a busy arcade the comic doesn't make it seem busy either and that would be kinda unusual, but generally you form a line, you wait your turn, and the line of tokens are your place holders. Now, if some ass decides to leave their token there and walk off for 10 minutes while other people are waiting in line, that's a little different.

Icycalm's article on arcade culture explains why it is improper (and also detrimental to the player) to use continues in an arcade. The author of the comic does not understand arcades at all and is probably terrible at arcade games as a result.

Jesus, reading this thread...I'm glad my parents refused to let me play arcade games anywhere.

I had no idea people were such aspie assholes to each other in arcades. I guess it makes sense. People act the same everywhere. But I only played in arcades at chuckie cheese and cicis, so there was never any fighting over a machine.

>>1014128
>I had no idea people were such aspie assholes to each other in arcades.

You mean credit feeders? I agree, people who hog games that they are bad at so that they can pay to win are really assholes. It would be better if they stayed home.

I got real fun during the heyday of SF2 when there were actually plastic holders across the control panel of machines that could hold over 20 quarters, and they were always filled up.

Imagine two huge 20-something inner-city black guys about to throw down over whose quarter was who's.

I always hated the quarter system for that reason too. Guys would walk up, put down their quarter, and then stroll away. Fifteen minutes later they'd come up and try to take a turn going "hey man, it's my turn, that's my quarter". Like anyone can tell which fucking quarter is which? 90% of people stayed in line, but there were assholes.

>>1010194
I have an arcade downtown in my town just like that. $5 for a day's pass on games. $30 for a month's, I think.

>>1009918

Today I learned people from yesterday were stupid.

>>1010194
>>1014160
At that point it's not even an arcade anymore. Fucking disgrace.

>>1014165
>If I can't credit feed, it's not an arcade!
>DOWNVOTE SAGEEEEE

>>1014170
I think you misunderstand. If all the games are on freeplay then everyone can credit feed as much as they want. That's why it's terrible.

The best remnant of this behavior we have is the ssbbrawl tv at any conventions gaming room.

The last one I went to, everyone gaming was having a blast and really chatty and friendly. The brawl corner was dominated by unhygienic males with extremely poor social skills.

>>1014165
>>1014176
Why are you saging?

>>1014181
So that my posts won't bump the thread.

>>1014193
Why? You sound like you're trying to do the "downvote sage."

>>1014205
Because I think this thread is shit and I don't want to bump it.

>You sound like you're trying to do the "downvote sage."

ワロタ

>>1014207
>ワロタ
Literally weaboo

>>1014207
I googled that and it brought up meaningless hieroglyphics

>>1014220
It's weaboo speak for "lol"

>>1014217
外人、クソを食べろ

>>1014226
"Gaijin, eat shit"

wow high school level nipponese

>>1014228
Thanks dude.

>7 years old
>completely oblivious to arcade etiquette
>playing some lightgun game
>younger kid puts his quarter into the machine
>i get a game over then use his quarter to continue
>little kid is obviously pissed off
>i don't know why he's so mad
>he calls me a cunt-ass nigga and then walks off

Two decades later and I still think about you from time to time. I'm so sorry.

>>1009729
I had this happen at the Gameworks in Las Vegas (may it R. I. P.) playing Sonic the Fighters (I fucking own that game so hard). No one could lay a finger on Tails

>>1014237
You got called a cunt-ass nigga by a kid younger than 7? Jesus, I think "buttmunch" was the worst insult I knew at that age.

If the guy waits through the "CONTINUE?" message all the way to an actual game over, I think that's legitimately the end of his turn.

If a new guy insists on butting in before the first guy has a chance to buy back into the game, that's a dick move.

Who the fuck goes to an arcade to play video games, other than time travelers and asians?

>>1009729
I was around when SF2WW was new and we definitely did quarters/tokens. SF bay area. There were no holders in the early days, just put it somewhere visible next to the previous person's.

I can't even imagine lines working, because everyone gathered around to watch.

>>1009810
It was less common for us to call a machine using quarters, but when we did it, it was always okay for the first player just to ask the next person if he could continue, based on the progress made in the game. Sometimes it would be okay, especially if the second person didn't mind watching.

>>1014329
Whoops, in this post I was referring just to 1P games. I am also this guy:
>>1014327

Very rare for 1P machines, actually.

>>1009671
it does kind of depend on the game
short-session games like fighters or DDR, some form of line rule should apply.
something longer like Metal Slug, dick move to kick him off

>>1010194
working on opening one with a similar business model in california

>>1014346
norcal? bay area maybe?

>>1014346
The name of the city/district would be nice

>>1009671
>Is this a thing?

Probably. It's a pretty common thing for people in pubs to put a pound down on the pool/snooker table rim, although I've never encountered someone with so little courtesy they don't ask if you were planning to have another game.

>>1010390
>>1009691
>Gym

>>1014136
They're more profitable for arcades than people who are good at the games they're playing. I'm surprised arcades don't post rules against dibsy behavior.

A kid put down like, 4 dollars worth of quarters and walked away when I was playing Marvel vs Capcom.

I had no idea what he was doing. I assumed it was some sort of tip and pocketed the quarters.

Kid comes back like, 2 minutes later.
>YO WHERE'S MY QUARTERS
>I... Uh... I don't know.
>I had already put them into the machine and eaten through a bit of them. I'm not too good at fightan gaems.

I let him play the rest of my credits. I then left and never returned.

>This was the last time I was in an arcade. That was over ten years ago.

In other news, I just found out that MVC was released in 1998. Time to go make a thread.

I remember when I was at an arcade during a summer vacation. I was playing Darkstalkers, and obviously wasn't very good; and this fucker kept inserting coins in the machine just to kick me off of it.

I just wanted to have fun, god damn it. Afterwards all I played was Metal Slug, just so nobody would piss me off.

>early-90s
>pretty young at the time
>be at the local Namco Cyberstation
>playing original Tekken
>just Law-ing it up and having a good time
>fucking teenager puts his quarter down while calling me a dweeb for no reason
>I remember him looking like Francis from Wish Kid (pic related), but he probably looked different
>have no idea what the quarter means
>he calls me a dweeb and tells me to hurry up
>I'm doing pretty good and advancing through the arcade mode
>it's taking a while, so he walks around and goes to another machine or whatever
>eventually finish
>take his quarter and leave

>>1014504

Good, fuck that kid.
If you're going to use the quarter rule, you shouldn't be a faggot about it.

>>1014527
To be fair, I had absolutely no fucking clue what it meant. I thought he was begrudgingly giving me a quarter. I was 6, so it made sense to me.

As a kid the suburb I lived in had a small video rental place with a SF2 machine inside near the door (australia, early nineties).
Myself and a friend would go play SF2 on occasion when we could rummage together 60 cents for a game (or a dollar coin for 2 credits). We were 7ish at the time and really couldn't pull off moves like hadoukens and the like, but we liked the characters and it was fun to play so we'd pick whoever we liked on that day and possibly get a few rounds on our money.
There was hardly anyone ever around and we'd take turns against the computer, until one afternoon an encounter that has been forever burned into my memory.
I was playing against the computer like any other afternoon when an older kid put some money in the machine and pressed the 2P start button, the NEW CHALLENGER text and sound came up and my game was halted.
He was wearing dirty clothes and looked raggedy, he was accompanied by a friend who was holding a bucket and squeegees, they had obviously been car window washing for change.
He looked at me with a crooked grin and smugly recited a rhyme, something like "I've beaten everyone through and through and I'm the king of Street Fighter Two".
He then proceeded to hadouken the shit out of me with Ken (or Ryu). I slunked away defeated whilst that grubby looking hobo kid and his window washer friend chortled like smug fucking swine.
I'll never forget my first and only SF2 experience challenging a stranger.

Growing up, my arcade had, like only about six or seven machines and it was at the bus depot. It was a dinky little town.

It worked a little differently. If you intended to continue playing you would add credits or set your own coins on the machine as you were playing it.

One time, when I was really young this big fucking indian kid for the reserve in town with his fuck whore mom to get her welfare I assume just came at me and pushed me off in the middle of my play. Didn't even look at me. I tried getting back on but it was real clear this piece of shit would crush my skull before that happened. It was a really bad experience, but I learned from it.

I got into a couple of fights in similar experiences over the next few years but I always kept my machine after that. Fucking small towns. Fuck that shit smelling indian. He's dead or in jail now I'm sure.

>>1014557
With a shtick like that, he'd better have had a rhyme prepared for losing. Probably not though.

>>1014565
>big fucking indian kid for the reserve
>for the reserve
>FTR
I LOL'D

Never heard of this (but i rarely went to arcades), I could see it making sense on a game that moves fast but if it's one that takes quite a bit of time to play then it sounds like it's just passive aggressive behavior. What if you die and want a continue?

I'd politely tell the person I wanted to keep playing and then if they demanded I got off I'd just keep playing anyway, the treatment to behavior like that is to feed it back to them. They are not being polite at all.

Hovering next to somebody making it clear you are waiting for them to get off is damn rude.

>>1014582
>much
must

>>1014573
That picture.. The horror of it. That much be what Michael Jackson's end face would have been, if his cybernetic research facility had continued being funded.

There are worse things I suppose. One time a local day care center (read: two unlicensed glorified babysitters) had the brilliant idea to just bring the kids to the local Chuck E. Cheese. They didn't feed 'em or give 'em money, they just set them wild in the place with one teenager to make sure they didn't escape or get injured.

I'm sure that was the very definition of hell for those kids, but all young me gave a damn about was these stupid kiddies backseat driving and begging for quarters.

>>1014557
>Tekken 3 is the biggest game in town at the time
>I'm only okay at it because I'm a beginner playing King
>one of those late-90s wigger douchebags with bleach-blonde hair (trying to look like Eminem or whatever) shows up shoves a quarter in
>New Challenger time
>forget who he's playing, but he knows all these flashy-looking moves
>I only really know the basics
>he's too busy trying to throw complex and situation moves when it's not needed
>I'm using the same small repitoire of basic but efficient moves over and over again
>must have called me a faggot a trillion times as I stomp his ass
>USE A DIFFERENT MOVE, FAGGOT
>WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THAT GAY THROW OVER AND OVER AGAIN
>DON'T YOU KNOW ANY COMBOS THAT AREN'T GAY

>>1014590

Eminem wannabes with horrible dyejobs is one Nineties fashion trend that should stay dead.

Damn, I couldn't play in Arcades at all. All those people potentially watching, people waiting their turn. If I do well I'm a dick for hogging the machine and if I do badly they'll laugh....

I only ever liked Pinball games in anyway...

I don't remember ever doing this as a kid...I generally just hung around and watched until I could get a turn. I don't think I ever had anyone come up and put down a quarter while I was playing, either.

Generally though if I died, I'd let someone else have a turn if they had been waiting. Except this one time when a friend and I beat TMNT and just stood there forever spending god knows how much money on it.

>>1014614

This. I lived in a place that was perpetually behind the times because it was a Georgia town too big to be a trailer park shithole, but too small to be anything resembling modern. No one here really knew anything about arcade "etiquette" like that, and the only time anyone ever put a quarter down while I was playing was some proto-hipster douchebag who always thought he was so slick and trendy.

>>1014590
That day the universe recovered his equilibrium

>>1009841
>wait hours
There lies a big differece between arcades and the comparison to a gym.
No on is going to use the squat machine for hours.
Further, the machines people do use for a long period of time (treadmill/bike/whatever), the gym has tons of, where an arcade has one of a machine.

I dunno but one time, I was leaning up against the wall watching some kid totally destroy that game where you're in planes and jets and you're killing all kinds of dinosaurs and for some reason I looked over to my right. I just knew there was something bad there and there was OP, oh god there was something very bad there. It was fucking huge and I swear it had it's own vein in it, blood read on green.. The bile is piling the back of my throat just thinking about it, the most disgusting, large piece of virulent snot you can imagine... Some childhood memories are so fucked..

>>1014607
>If I do well I'm a dick for hogging the machine
At good arcades this was not the case. Doing well would have been encouraged, and if you were friendly about it, nobody would have tried to "kick" you off the machine (challenging you on a 2P vs. game is different).

>I got next.
Being young, the first time I saw this was in everybody hates chris.

On a semi-related note:

I was watching some older kids play MK3 one time, and this Mexican gangbanger looking dude was playing as Stryker. Every time he won and Stryker would do his victory pose where he fires his gun into the air, this guy would lean back and mock-shoot into the air with an imaginary pistol right along with the game. He even made the sound effects with his mouth. For some reason, the memory of this douchebag doing that has always stuck with me.

>>1014109
>detrimental to the player to use continues in an arcade

Who cares? If I like playing a game and I die I'll want to keep playing. It doesn't make sense that I should have to quit just because I lost all my lives. If I have the money I should be allowed to spend as much of it as I want until I've beaten the game. If other people are waiting then I guess tough for them. If I'm 75% through a game I'm not going to start all over (and have to spend more money in the long run) just so they can play a life and move onto something else in 5 minutes.

>>1014785
using credits to continues the game means you get less play per quarter. Once you get to an area where the game is hard and you are constantly dying throwing an extra credit just lets you live for another 30 seconds before dying. Starting over lets you play for much longer and actually improve your skill instead of just buying more lives.

You don't improve as a player if you just keep shoving in credits.

The experience you get from managing to beat a game in 1 credit compared to in 30 is worlds apart. On one hand you feel like you have completly mastered the game, turned the tables on an impossible challenge and made it your bitch, doing that requires being intensily familiar with every single mechanic in game and completly understanding every obstacle in the game. The other one just requires spamming the bomb butten, dying, than buying more bombs.

semirelated, I could never learn to play mortal combat on the arcades because there was a bunch of faggots at the back of the arcade just waiting for someone to start playing then they would join the game an kick you out

>>1014237
>he calls me a cunt-ass nigga and then walks off

This didn't happen.

>>1014826
Are you me?

>>1014826
>>1014843
Welcome to the school of hard knocks bitches. I still love jumping in on a fighting game when I can tell that some newbie just started playing

>>1014708
>you're in planes and jets and you're killing all kinds of dinosaurs

What game is this? It sounds fucking awesome.

>>1014850
Really?
You actually feel good beating someone who doesn't know what they're doing?
Winning is nice. Steamrolling is okay, butgets boring. Winning against an equal oopponent is orgasmic.

>>1014862
Just for you(me), we're(I'm) going to find it and play it, and it was fucking awesome. I'll post my findings.

>>1014850
You surely are a master of how to make friends and be admired by all.

>>1014902
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzDkLdFFrPM&feature=related
That's it. That doesn't do it justice, it gets way better. I'll keep digging.

Oh, for those who can't afford to watch a youtube video, it's called Prehistoric Isle 1930. I thought I remembered jets, I guess not. Maybe an upgrade? Lurking more.

>>1014915
You can play it on mame. There's a neo geo sequel too! I'm so totally happy I remembered that booger arcade memory, otherwise this game would have remained locked in the vaults. Cheers OP, other guy, and myself!

>Pretending you're not being a cunt for not just asking for the next game and talking it out with a person, but just shoving them off the machine.

>>1014932
But think about it, that's the last resort. You only do this BECAUSE the guy playing the game is hogging it. Like everyone's fantasy world in this thread they seem to be posting from, arcades were full of these pricks. And yes, they tended to be good at the games. Odd? NO. The tactic used by Ronnie's usurper was typical. Though it was generally used against arcade dickbeards, not Ronnies.

>>1014964
>Like
meant unlike

>>1014932

considering where we are most of the people who said that probably couldnt do that without stuttering awkwardly and jamming their hands into their pockets while looking at the floor, so they just plop a quarter down and step forward like talking isnt needed.

>Be a kid
>Want to play Metal Slug at the local game shop
>Young adult is already playing
>"Can I play with you?!"
>"No."
>mfw

I think he was trying to 1cc it or something, but I just wanted one credits worth of play. It wouldn't have been very long, I was awful at Metal Slug as a kid. He was doing pretty well though from what I remember.

Also: The only arcades to play at as a kid were bowling alleys and movie theaters... The game store only had a couple machines.

>>1014482
la-la-la-la luhve shyyneeeeeeee

>>1014765
that is fucking hilarious

>>1014862

>>1015005
Super cool arcade 2P. Simple graphics, recycled a lot, but very original. That shot of the T-Rex in the opening montage, he's the final boss. He's a bitch.

>>1014251
I'm always on the lookout for a Sonic the Fighters machine. I don't care what it costs, I don't care what I have to do to transport it, I don't even know where I would put it. I just know that I would buy the shit out of it

>watching some giant goon play Gauntlet
>want to join but out of quarters for the day
>hang around the machine watching
>he gets fed up with me being around
>"If you're gonna play, play, if not go away"

>different occasion
>same goon is playing Gauntlet again
>he hasn't chosen a level yet
>decide to join him, load my character
>goon is level 99, I'm level 15
>he takes us to hell
>he runs ahead and takes all the food and shit until I die

I was probably annoying him just being there, but JEsus.

>>1015034
People shouldn't play arcades if they can't handle being watched. It's a public forum basically.

>>1015029
Assuming you check Craigslist or eBay, you'll have a much easier time if you look for it by its original US name, Sonic Championship.

i would always say "thanks man!" and put the quarter in for another credit to keep playing

mfw

>>1015050
Yeah... I know of at least 3 Sonic Championship machines in London but I have literally no idea what the fuck happened to them. I'm would love to operate an arcade with unconventional games from different genres rather than the common staples. That's why I think StF would make a good fighting game and could be backed up by Police 24/7, VirtualOn, Crisis Zone, F Zero arcade, Afterburner, Mario Kart arcade, American 18 wheeler, and that one samurai game where you swing a sword handle around to do damage. There might also be some pinball and possibly pool tables.

>>1014590
I always felt like a lot of Tekken characters have bloated movelists with some useless combos. Ironically, Yoshimitsu was an exception. Literally every move he had was extremely useful, even the ones that did damage to himself.

>>1014765
I would have a hard time not laughing and looking like a dick as well if I saw that.

>>1015124

>>1010475
You've never done that.

When I play SF at arcades, I generally ask if it's cool that I go next if they lose.
Putting down a quarter and walking away is rude, regardless of 'arcade rules'.

>>1015279
B-but, alpha as fuck ;_;

Plunking down a quarter is fine.

Putting down more than 1 credit's worth of quarters is not.
Walking off and expecting to keep your place is not.
Physically pushing a player out of the way is not, and will probably get you laid out in these parts.

>>1014590
Ah that reminds me:

>11
>At Namco Arcade with stepcousins
>Playing Soul Calibur III
>Douchebag older stepcousin tells me I don't know shit about the game's mechanics
>Tells me he's gonna kick my ass
>He picks Nightmare or whatever the fuck
>I pick Amy
>Match starts
>Fucker keeps trying to pull off fancy moves
>I button mash like my life depended on it
>Ring him out twice
>Fucker is furious and walks off
>Other cousins cheer
>feelsgoodman.jpg

>>1014765
Back when I lived in Bangkok, I saw this guy playing HotD4 at the mall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1KGCQ79U14

>>1015336
Jesus that's funny.

Oh god, is that what the quarter thing is for? I remember I was at Gameworks in seattle, came up to a game and there was a quarter on it. I just took the quarter and walked off

>>1015336

Wow, I and thought just using both guns at a game made me look like a douche

>>1015347
Well if the machine was unattended and the quarter was there just then it serves whoever left it there right. You don't just put a quarter down and abandon it.

>>1009671
People like you are why arcades are dead.

urrm... what a lot of you people are saying isn't exactly correct... a lot of Arcade games have continues, if you let the continue run out, that's your own fault, and I don't see why anyone that wanted to keep playing the game would do that.

>>1015352
oh god, when I was a kid I used to love it when I found forgotten quarters, or games that some one put a quarter into and then left the game, there is certainly nothing wrong with taking advantage of that.

>>1015397
Because why would you continue in a game you're doing bad at when you can just start over, get more play time, and become better at the game?

>>1015347
no... when I was a kid this wasn't a thing at all... I'm thinking it must be a thing amongst the "retro" crowd that never actually grew up when arcades were big.

>>1015407
because whether you are bad at the game or not doesn't actually effect the game and you start off at the last level you left off on.

>Three years ago, at Circus Circus in Las Vegas.
>Hanging with a bud, playing all the games and whatnot.
>They have Marvel vs. Capcom 2 but some neckbeard is playing it, so I wait a while playing other games.
>He's still there, so I figure "Why not challenge him? It's an arcade."
>Ask him if he wants to go a match, he says yes.
>I fucking FINAL JUSTICE his ass, then later in the match I tone it down but still win.
>Ask if he wants to play some more, but he just walks over to sit down at some racing game behind me.
>I continue playing while he watches me in silence.

It was pretty cool I guess.

>>1015627
What a weirdo. I woulda hung out and played a few more characters with you at least then offered to play you in something else once your quarter ran out.

That's how I used to make friends at the roller rink in the summer as a kid. Some people are so weird about losing in arcades sometimes I guess.

>>1009686
>implying you know shit about arcades
He never was, if you actually read the post he states he never encountered it before and hasn't played any arcade games since he was 10.

>implying you're not ruining /vr/

>>1009671
>be wanting to play Tekken 3 in arcade
>wait for guy on machine finish (he's playing King and doing a fucking awesome job at stomping the computer, doing shit I've never seen before)
>pulls perfect combos and fights
>he plays a few times
>finally beats game, leaves cheering for himself
>set forward, put quarter in, pick King
>wasn't as good but I'm beating the level
>boss fight
>"can't let you win this, you know that, right?" previous guys said
>puts quarter in and challenges me
>I already know his type
>fight starts and he begins aggressive, launching combo after combo, I just passively dodge and block
>start to get his timing and cycle of attack
>he wins round
>he's done quite a bit of blocking damage on me on the next round
>he gets mad, "Aren't you going to atta--"
>pull a combo on him
>he freaks so bad he forgets to counter it
>get his head
>he throws another perfect combo I just passively block
>i start a combo, then intentionally stop mid-way (right as he went to counter) and begin a different one
>get tons of free hits on him
>his habit of fighting the computer is against him, and his desire for the "perfect fight" has screwed him
>he loses round
>he's dead silent beginning of third round
>he starts tossing throw after throw at me trying to mix in combos
>play his habits against him some more, sometimes going as far as only throwing a single punch, then countering when he button mashes in frustration
>he gets me down to near death with an awesome combo grab
>I roll away, then dash forward and do King's running grab move
>win on that move alone
>"wtf?! what fucking move is that!?" he yells as he loses

He watched me as I fought the boss. I intentionally tossed the match by only throwing standing jabs.

He was raging so hard as I left.

>>1015627

He was trying to maximize his time with the game. If he fed quarters into the machine he'd probably lose every match to you. If waits for you to get done he can probably complete the game (7 matches?) on one credit each time.

>>1009686
>Yes, that's how it is. You play until someone else wants to play, and then when you get a game over you let them play.

Dat beta logic

>>1015934
>arcade
>alpha
It's okay, though, I know you're just pretending.

>>1014986

I was the guy if I had an audience of kids, I'd eventually ask them if they wanted to play for me.

>>1015415
No...you don't.

You die. 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 game over.

Back to the first stage.

Most people can beat the first stage of a shmup, or the first few guys in a fighter.

>>1015934
You can get your ass beat in an arcade for not moving on after a game over screen.

It's interesting thinking about the social norms that develop around arcades. It's not like anyone set the rules or anything. They just sort of develop organically. Things vary depending on the arcade and region, of course, but there are still very general trends that persevere across the board. Very cool to think about.

>>1014165
>customers happy, pleased with establishment
>business makes loads of money
It's a win-win. I don't even know how you can be mad. Everyone who goes there seems to love it. Do you enjoy paying more money for less of an experience?

>>1014816
There's no point trying to explain to people like >>1014785. If they're that opposed to the idea of using arcades properly, they aren't going to get it. Their loss. Spend your words on people who actually care about arcade games.

>>1010194
wunderland?

>>1015989
Read the part of Icycalm's article on arcade culture that explains how game developers, arcade owners, and customers interact in order to cause higher quality games to be created; and note how this would be impossible without each individual arcade game in the establishment being itself able to generate monetary gains or losses. I don't feel like repeating it when he's explained it better than I could.

>>1016000
>in order to cause higher quality games to be created and also installed in a given arcade.*

Forgot to include that.

>>1016000
TRIPS GET
I'll look into that

>>1016019
Yeah you should definitely read it. To me the idea of a freeplay arcade seems similar to modern approaches to the video games; you may make more money and you may involve more people, but in the end it's a bad thing and detrimental. With arcades, though, the reasons why may not be so apparent.

>>1016000
It is true that we would not have gotten so many good arcade games if they used that "pay to enter" model from the start, but it no longer matters. At least not outside of Japan.

>>1016051
You've still removed any pressing motivation for the arcade owner to replace bad games.

You all have to understand that arcade etiquette seems really rude to people who aren't used to arcades. A friend and I went to an arcade, and he was on the Third Strike machine playing the AI, and some dude walked up and challenged him. At the time it seemed incredibly rude. He could have at least asked. I'm sure that's a normal thing to do in arcades, but that doesn't make it right.

>>1009671
It is a thing but it's not 'the' thing. You don't have to respect the etiquette, it's typically more for competitive matches not public arcades.
If you've got the cash in pocket you can slide it in. Too fucking bad. If you preload it, then you stay on for as long as you preloaded it anyway or punch the fucker in the face for stealing your money.

You don't have to let them have it, but you should realize there's going to be some measure of conflict between someone who wants on the machine and someone staying on the machine.

>>1016134
The only thing that is problematic is your friend wanting to hog a fighting game to himself to play single player.

>>1016141

Who said anything about hogging? He was on his first credit. He can't even play one game by himself?

>>1016143
If you want to play a fighting game by yourself then go home. People go to arcades to play these games against other people.

>>1016145

That's clearly incorrect, considering we didn't go to the arcade to play against other people.

>>1016157
You are the minority and don't matter. Sorry, bud.

>>1016160

Thank you for demonstrating how arcade etiquette isn't rude.

>>1016162
Sorry if it bothers you, but the fact that you can walk into a building and act like an idiot doesn't entitle you to waste everyone else's time. Arcades don't cater to people like you.

>>1016145

>People go to arcades to play these games against other people.

Wat. I don't know about you, but in every arcade I've ever been in, the vast majority of games are single player.

>>1016165

So you don't equate rudeness with idiocy? In fact you do the opposite?

It doesn't matter any more since arcades are deserted

>>1016165

>wanting to play a video game makes you an idiot
>waaahhh follow my secret club's unwritten rules

>>1016171
We are discussing fighting games.

>>1016172
I equate idiocy with not understanding how a given subculture functions and then being offended when it does not cater to your ignorance. Ultimately whether you think it's rude is irrelevant since you aren't wanted there to begin with.

>>1016174
If you go to a place where people regularly do X and you try to do Y, which obstructs people doing X, then you are the problem, not the regulars.

>>1016183

>We are discussing fighting games.

No, actually you said "People go to arcades...", not "people head towards the fighting game cabinets."

>>1009736
>in billiard usually you tap the table and then you play against the winner of the last game. the loser gets out of the table to let you play.

That wouldn't work anywhere I play. Any billiard halls are paid and the person paying has dominion over whose playing and when on that table. You can tap all you want and be told to fuck off and pay for your own table if you want to play that badly. If you want an equal or greater dominion you offer up the cost and make your case to the person paying at the moment. The payer can refuse to let you play period even if you've agreed to trade with another player. His money, his table, unless you've got some prior arrangement such as debt reduction on the payer or someone pleading on your behalf. Likewise the payer can refuse to give a fuck and let you work it out yourselves while he gets a drink, free table for however long he says. Ultimately, he can yank the table mid game, but if you act like a dick, you're likely to get treated like a dick so your reason better be acceptable for interrupting your offer.

Any places I'm playing free are with a group of friends as well. If it's at a friends house, that friend has complete control period. In a semi-public area you converse like a civilized person and we work it out in a civil manner based on what was going down and who has time etc... If you've got limited time, you're more likely to get in. If you've got all the time, you're likely to wait. If it's equal time, then it typically depends on if we're in the middle of a set and how much time we can afford or you can wait. The better we're shooting the shorter those matches will be. Also any time two parties put money down, anyone not with stakes is kindly obligated to get the fuck out unless given the courtesy to finish round or at leisure.

>>1016183

>you aren't wanted there to begin with.

Actually I'm pretty sure the owner of the arcade was happy to accept our quarters.

>which obstructs people doing X

In what way were we obstructing anyone? When I waited for someone to finish playing Tempest, I didn't think they were obstructing me from playing the game. I was just being patient and considerate.

>>1016187
Learn to contextualize things that you read, please. I clearly said "these games" in reference to fighting games. Not arguing with semantics with you anymore.

>>1016193
>Actually I'm pretty sure the owner of the arcade was happy to accept our quarters.

The arcade owner is only part of the equation. He exists in opposition to the players. You simply don't understand arcades.

>In what way were we obstructing anyone? When I waited for someone to finish playing Tempest, I didn't think they were obstructing me from playing the game. I was just being patient and considerate.

They would have been obstructing you if they had played the game improperly. Credit feeding obstructs people. Hogging a fighting game of all things for single player obstructs people. If you're on a fighting game cabinet you are giving an invitation for someone to challenge you. Don't like it? Go home. There's probably a console port.

>>1016183
>I equate idiocy with not understanding how a given subculture functions

Not that guy, but where I come from there are two subcultures, one is overarching subculture of thieves. The other was arcade faggots who put quarters down. Don't get asshurt when your quarters go missing for doing that shit, because you have to be stupid doing that around here which everyone is anyways. You should have known better. In fact, you also want to make sure your pockets are covered, zipped and you don't have a bag in an accessible place. If you have a bag, you put that shit between the game and you and keep your legs such that people can't access the bag easilly or to the side and pay attention and be willing to kick them in the fucking face and run. If there's more than two people who seemingly know each-other you should potentially expect the bag grab and the control fuck up when you reach for the bag. At this point, you should eat the quarter or expect to get robbed. If the timing is very wrong, probably even mugged by potential friends outside. If more than two people come in at the same time and they're too quiet or too loud, you're better off leaving the game, right now in the less blocked path.
If you leave like that in front of the same group like that at least twice, next time you go, hide the fuck out of your money and anything else you don't want taken. They might use that to post friends outside to snag you because they know you're leaving next time. You really should be doing that anyway though.

>>1016230
>The arcade owner is only part of the equation. He exists in opposition to the players.

I'm going to go ahead and clarify what I mean by this, in case anyone wants to know. What's best for the arcade owner is what is worst for you. He makes money by you losing games, by credit feeding, never increasing in skill, failing over and over and throwing as much money in as you can to pay to win. The player works against the owner's best interests by becoming better at the game, by increasing the length of time he can stay alive on one credit; he sits down to beat a game, maybe on multiple loops, for 25 cents while the weaker player, eager to throw all their money away, have to sit back and watch. The arcade owner provides games, but he isn't your friend. He wants you to lose.

>>1016230
Don't like me credit feeding? Go home. There's probably a console port for you to 1cc there faggot.

>>1015908
nice
I'm going to go buy tekken now

>>1016262
I'll just put in my quarter and force you off. That's a nice way of dealing with you retards. At worst you'll be forced to waste more money preparing for it.

>>1016278
Good luck with trying to put a quarter through my knee.

>>1016291
Lol. Enjoy being arrested for assault.

>>1016293
You're the one trying to poke a quarter through my knee. When I hit you for it, I'm the one defending myself.

>>1016295
Uh huh.

>>1016291
I'd be your 2p bro and nah >>1016278
is just trying to pay for more time for us cause were so awesome. Let him put all the quarters in he wants kid can't take two of us. I have OP retard strength too I'll go super saiyan on him if I have to

>>1016301
Looks like both of you faggots are going to wait.
You can take this time to go look for a store to pick up some tissues for all that crying.

I'm very surprised and dismayed to discover a majority of people on this board not understanding or, worse disrespecting the holy tradition of the quarter challenge.

This is generally something you see on competitive machines - pool tables, foosball, fighting games, sports games...

But even on a single player game I think the quarter challenge is still valid, it says "I bet I can get further at this game than you can" and, of course you're perfectly welcome to put your own quarter up to start taking turns.

This is a lesson I had to learn the hard way when I was a little kid and got forcibly pushed away from a machine and taught some respect.

This thread and this modern world are both full of people who need to be pushed around a little bit.

>>1016304
Well the only thing I'm crying about is my taxes payed for your welfare quarters. Other than that I don't mind it's not like you have very many

>>1015034
reminds me of one time i was hanging around the small arcade at the local movie theater and watching some guy playing some fighting game about a few minutes of watching he told me to go away or he would kick my ass i was around 14 at the time and he looked about 28 or so

>>1016308
>Other than that I don't mind it's not like you have very many
I think you profusely underestimate how far welfare quarters can get you.
Plus I just met this cool ass guy who just offered up his TV also his car stereo, which coincidentally he won't need when his car seizes the fuck up and he has to replace the whole engine.

Do people on this board realize that it's not actually the 90's? I'm not a greasy mall rat trying really hard to impress the cool kids by getting good at Street Fighter. I'm an adult who wouldn't mind playing an arcade game or two by myself. If some twerp thought it was 1994 and challenged me in a fighting game, I would politely explain to them that I'd like to play alone. If they refused, I would leave and let them play by themselves.

>>1016349
>I would leave and let them play by themselves.
-like a loser

>>1016352

You see, I'm not 14 anymore, so I couldn't give two shits whether some wannabe punk thought I was a loser.

>>1016349
>If they refused, I would leave

Sounds good.

>>1009691

Not in the gyms I've been at.

It's usually two guys sharing a machine/bench, and each one does one set before the other guy uses the thing.

>200 replies to argue over the concept of sharing

It's okay, it's a pretty civil discussion, and I guess I shouldn't expect /vr/ to be any other way.

>>1016356
You should care about actually being a loser though. Why would someone like you even want to play a fighting game in the first place? Especially in public.

>>1016405

>You should care about actually being a loser though.

Between me and the person who hangs out in arcades trying to impress people by beating them at video games, who is the loser?

>Why would someone like you even want to play a fighting game in the first place?

Because fighting games are fun? I don't exactly have a perfect port of my favorite fighting games with arcade authentic controls and a booming sound system in my house. And if I did manage that, I bet it would cost more than 25 cents.

>>1016349
>>1016356
>>1016424
You are so mature.

>>1016405
Maybe he likes to play fighting games. Maybe he's also in a public area that presents the opportunity to play. Maybe he forgot to stick his god damn mame cabinet in his pocket when he left in the morning.

>>1016349
So if you were playing Street Fighter and I came up and told you I wanted to play, you would literally just leave? Jesus what a beta faggot

>>1016539
You don't understand. He's a mature adult so he doesn't have time to engage in such childish frivolities. You must be a teenager since you disagree.

>>1016539

Did you read what I said? I said I would politely explain that I'd like to play by myself. If they wanted to be douchebags and try to fight me, I wouldn't give them the satisfaction.

>>1009671
Where is the joke in this comic?

>>1016174
my thoughts when

>>1016564
Credit feeder getting mad because people won't put up with his bullshit.

>>1016278
>be playing one of those Time Crisis or whatever games
>not amazingly great at the game, but enjoying the experience
>get to a new stage never been to before
>already invested $5 on continues
>havingagoodtime.jpg
>guy comes over, feeds a quarter
>? What are you doing?
>"Calling dibs on next continue"
>Sorry but I'm playing right now
>die on next stage
>going to use another continue but other guy grabs gun out of hand
>What the hell, man
>he plays, dies almost immediately
>"This game is fucking stupid"
>spams trigger on the continue screen, gets a game over
>walks away
Arcades attract some of the rudest people

>>1016564
Not all comics are about jokes.
But in this case, the joke is normies get a laugh that some nerd lost his game.

>>1016586
>>already invested $5 on continues

You got what you deserved.

Guess I'll post a few of my stories.

>Live in SoCal so there are still arcades around
>Playing 3rd Strike with my brother. Not a lot of people in the arcade.
>High school kid comes in with some of what I presume are his friends.
>He and one of his friends starts a fight on SSF4:AE
>He wins, then proceeds to say
>"I'm the best player in this arcade. I come here all the time and no one can ever beat me."
>Look at my brother, he beats me this round so I decide to see what the kid is all about.
>Put in quarter. He starts talking about how good his Ryu is.
>Decide to pick T.Hawk just as a way to somewhat hide my power level. I'm good with him but he isn't my main.
>"Oh man, I always beat T. Hawk. I've never lost to him before!"
>The kid literally only throws jumping roundhouse to sweep. That's it. No fireballs, no throws. He doesn't even block. I'm T.Hawk and he's coming to me and not throwing fireballs.
>Push his shit in.
>He starts making excuses. Says he's never lost like this before.
>He decides to play 3rd Strike.
>Has similar luck with my brother.
>Realize there is a girl in the arcade and that there's an incredibly good chance that we just beat this guy in front of his girlfriend.

We had a lot of fun that day. No, I don't feel bad about it. Getting your shit wrecked in an arcade builds humility.

>>1016598
The game is $1, not $0.25 btw

>>1016613
I know.

>>1016616
stop my feelings are hurt

>>1016618
S-sorry..

>>1016621
It's okay I forgive you

>>1015321
>mash buttons
the only thing you should feel is shame

>>1016586
>letting someone grab a gun out of your hand
You could have at least said he was some hulking dude who looked like he was going to beat your ass.

Our arcade was never at full capacity, so we didn't have this rule. If you were on a machine, it was yours till you left. If you wanted to use it, you could wait behind them until the person was finished or play something somewhere else until they were. There weren't any long lines for any game, although there might be a person standing and watching for their turn. On top of that, most people went through quarters fast enough to either need a trip back to the change dispenser or would leave after losing a certain amount of money. There weren't very many people at all who'd even come close to 1CCing things, although we did have a few who could continually remain at Mortal Kombat or other fighting games by virtue of beating all comers.

I think that system was best, unless you were in a very busy arcade with each machine occupied. You get a decent amount of time to play, and when you run out of money, it's the next guy's turn. The only time I actually remember waiting for more than 5-10 minutes for a game was for D&D: Shadow over Mysteria, and that was on the busiest day of the week. I just went and played Time Crisis until it was unoccupied.

>>1016586
A similar situation happened to my buddy. Someone tried to kick him off TC3 when we were playing together, but we were together as a group of five and the three other guys were just watching. The moved in uncomfortably close to him, and the kid walked off talking shit but didn't do anything.

I think it'd have been a lose-lose situation though, you can't really fight in an arcade without getting bounced for life. Last thing I wanted was to get banned from the only arcade in a hundred mile radius.

I get it know. Arcades are the yesteryear equivalent of CoD babbies.

>>1015969
>You can get your ass beat in an arcade for not moving on after a game over screen.

If you get a game over in an arcade, it's because you stopped putting quarters in the machine, i.e. you're done playing.

>>1015969
>You can get your ass beat in an arcade for not moving on after a game over screen.

Woah, watch out for this badass here.

Unless you're hogging the machine for hours on end, you'll leave the guy to his game. And even then, he's a paying customer, what the fuck is YOUR say, faggot? It's not your establishment, is it?

You're going to incite violence over petty childish shit like this? Enjoy your misdemeanor/felony.

I wouldn't start shit with a stranger over things like these, they might just be a CCW holder, like me, I'll tell you to calm down, and I'll attempt to deescalate the situation, but if you're set on throwing punches over videogames, you are giving me the right to pull my gun on you.

>>1014165
A business is a business, they don't give a shit about your nostalgia. If they feel they can run an Arcade in a more efficient way than the traditional one, then it's their goddamn right.

>>1015987
>using arcades properly
>properly
>properly

Dude... it's a fucking game.

>>1017608
>>1015969
I wish you internet tough guys would just get together and murder each other already.

there's so much "you can't tell me what to do!" in this thread it's no wonder people are assholes everywhere

>>1014109
Icycalm is also probably literally autistic. I mean, he expresses wide-eyed confusion at the word "indie," a term most people intuitively understand without feeling the need to define it.

>>1016278
You sound like a contemptible asshole.
I'm sure you make lots of friends your way.

>>1017649
Don't see the problem, I don't think you should "beats someone's ass" because they can't wait for their turn, if you get stabbed or shot because you assaulted someone over a videogame, I will not feel pity or remorse for you, and neither will the courts.

>>1017668
Who the fuck is icycalm and why is anon so goddamn set on everyone listening to his opinions?

I ONCE STABBED A GUY WITH A BEER BOTTLE OVER STREET FIGHTER DAWG

DONFUCKWIMEE

>>1016293
>not expecting a physical altercation when you go to an arcade
Watch your back if you like throwing in SF.

>>1017706
I've not been to many arcades, few of them crowded, do people really get into fucking fights over this shit? Don't tell me this is true, I refuse to believe this.

>>1016349
Why the hell would you ever go to an arcade, then? You've got MAME at home where you can play alone all you want.
If you want to hog the game, you have to at least prove yourself against others, not go b-b-but i r-really just wat t-to play a-alone.

ITT: I can't believe I'm in /vr/

The damn POINT of going to the arcade is the direct interaction/competition with other people. If you want to play alone, you can play the same games on your computer or console at home.

If I'm in the mood to play a game to completion, I just set up my own row of coins. Like, across the whole monitor, two deep so everyone thinks there's a huge line and fucks off.

>>1017726
But wouldn't NOT paying for the arcade games be -stealing- ?
Can't I play games AND support my local businesses?
After all, I would be helping keeping the business afloat.

>>1017726
>The damn POINT of going to the arcade is the direct interaction/competition with other people.
No it's not.
I think you need to take some time and introspectively think about logic and reason and what things are for a while.
Here I'll start you off with a few things for you to think about. The point of buying a television set is to only watch television. The point of buying a car is only to commute to work. The point of eating food is only to minimally sustain your bodies energy requirements.

>>1017726
Uh, no. The point of going to arcades is that the games there are better than your shitty Sinclair Spectrum.

>>1017748
>only

I like how you had to sneak that word in to avoid looking stupid. Well, to try to avoid looking stupid.

>>1017668
People don't "intuitively understand" the term indie, it has intuitive APPEAL to them because they can slap it on anything that makes them feel good instead of thinking about what the word is actually supposed to mean.

The fact that people feel comfortable using words without knowing what the fuck they're talking about is hardly an accomplishment.

>>1017748
Maybe if it's one of those giant interactive cab racing or shooting games but then how many of those are competitive? No, for fighting games you go to the arcades to fight other people. Playing single player is what you do while you're waiting for other people to fight you. If you want a single player fighting experience, just sit at home and emulate the game for free. If it's a new game then you're better off buying it anyway because then you have access to training mode and you can play for as long as you want without worry of other people invading your machine.

Then you can beat the computer consistently and consider yourself a God of Fighting Games. Just never go to an arcade after this revelation to preserve your delusion.

>>1014152
It'd cost more, I'm sure, but if I ran an arcade in the modern day, I'd do something like this.
>all machines take special tokens
>4 tokens for a dollar
>you then get your picture taken which is then temporarily imprinted on all your tokens
I don't know how. Maybe a micro LCD screen? I don't know shit about electronics.
>place token down for a game, walk away

Also, there's etiquette posted around - including
>if there's anyone waiting in line you must give it up upon a game over or a win, whichever comes first
>if someone does actually leave the line, if they're not back within a minute, they move to the holding area where upon return they get next
>if in holding area, skip to next in line

So it alternates, basically
>line
>line
>line (put in holding)
>line
>line
>line
>line (put in holding)
>line (holding 1 comes back)
>holding 1
>line (holding 2 comes back)
>holding 2
>line

I hope that makes sense.

>>1016764
I was around 14, he was older than me and I was a huge beta at the time

>>1017718
I've never seen or heard of this remotely happening. Maybe if you're in Detroit or something and they're selling crack in the back of the arcade.

>>1017860
The arcade I still go to only has stoners around so nothing bad ever happens there. If they even do play they'll usually laugh off a loss or blame it on being stoned. Never any violence.

>>1017860
>Detroit
I wouldn't fucking set my foot there even if I could Open-Carry an M1 Carbine, let alone go to some seedy joint in one of the ghetto(er) areas.

So basically, these people saying they're gonna kick my ass because they can't wait their turn, are angry urban youths?

>>1017873
Pretty much

>>1015336
Knowing the game well enough to do that is pretty cool, I'll admit. But actually doing it is a tad much.

>>1015349
>no fun allowed

>>1017706
>Watch your back if you like throwing in SF.
I was around for SF2WW, there was always talk about weirdos who thought throwing alone was cheap. Before my crowd learned the actual mechanics of the game, we thought tick-into-throw was "cheap," but never just simple throws. Eventually (and gladly) that stupidity fucking disappeared once we realized the you could escape after ticks.

Meanwhile it was always fun to put on (or watch) the Chun Li airthrow magic show. Especially Chun Li vs. Chun Li in CE and HF (or WW for SNES).

This thread has taught me a lot. 20 years after arcades were last relevant, your high school bully still thinks he's hot shit for knowing how to do a hurricane kick.

>>1017823
Fighting games are actually great for arcade etiquette -- there's a P2 slot and whoever's the best gets to play. You can't really hog the machine (Unless there's two of you) because anyone who's better can kick you off.

The unspoken rules that this board seems to think exist for other singleplayer arcade games however aren't written in stone in any arcade, and therefore not enforceable. If you want to play that Metal Slug cabinet, wait your turn until the guy ahead of you runs out of coins unless the arcade implements something otherwise. It's a shame more games don't have setups like Fighting Games to determine who gets to play next, but it doesn't make sense for a lot of them.

>>1017873
>are angry urban youths?
Aka black people

>>1018151
I don't judge by race, if you throw punches at me, I'm not going to hold back.

It's called taking care of an aggressor.

>>1017827
If you want to do a lockout system, just have users' tokens on magnetic cards, make it so a token can't come from the same card twice in a row. Sure, people might get around it by having their card and a friends card, but it'd probably be the best way to enforce the rule.

>>1018159
I was just kidding anyway, all races have an equal opportunity to be shitty people

>>1018256
>equal opportunity
Opportunity is never the problem. The problem is prevalence regardless of opportunity.

Let's not talk about this.

>people are still posting in this thread

A lot of people didn't have the same arcade environment. Busy arcades with more people than machines required some etiquette so that everyone got to play. Places with few people in them tended to be a free for all, a machine is yours until you leave.

I can't imagine someone kicking someone off who far into a game, but maybe in a place that commonly has 10 people waitng to play each machine, you need those sort of rules.

>>1017608
I'm not a bad-ass. I've just been to the ghetto. A lot of the last arcades are shitty, run-down pool rooms and hangouts for thugs and drug-dealers. If one of those guys comes in to play the game, and you don't walk the fuck off when you're done you can get hurt.

>>1017689
He's a guy who wrote one article which made some valid points about arcades in Japan, but the rest of his writing is shit.

>>1017634
And it's my right to call it a shitty business. Deal with it.

>>1017668
I wasn't endorsing Icycalm, just his article on arcade culture. I don't like the guy either.

>>1017672
>You sound like a contemptible asshole.
>I'm sure you make lots of friends your way.

In other words you have nothing of value to add to the discussion. Surprised you're not resorting to claims of physical violence like the other guys who gave up.

>>1016324
You should have stood your ground. That guy sounds like all talk, and he would go to jail for laying a hand on a minor. You had full power in that situation.

>>1016571
Why are people so against "credit feeders"? All through this thread I see it. The guy just wants to play through the whole game, maybe he's not great at it, so what, he just wants to play through for fun. Why is that a crime? Not everyone cares about 1cc'ing something. They just want to have a little fun and see all the levels.

>>1019352
I don't care whether you're using continues at home, that's your loss; but if you are in an arcade then you are hogging the machine so that people who actually care about the game and have spent time and money getting good at it, or who would like to do so, can't play it. They have to sit back and wait for the casual idiot to take forever dying over and over so that he can "see the levels." Other than that it's simply common courtesy to get off of the machine when you lose so that other people can play.

>>1019376
I have never seen such behavior. If you're playing on a machine, it's yours until you leave the cabinet. Bad players run through quarters very fast anyway, and usually when someone's out of money, they leave the arcade entirely, meaning there's that less of traffic.

The highest skilled player getting to play the most is only true in a fighting game where there's an established system for booting someone off the system -- beating him enough times to run him out of dosh.

>>1019376
>but if you are in an arcade then you are hogging the machine so that people who actually care about the game and have spent time and money getting good at it, or who would like to do so, can't play it.

But why would their money and time be any more valuable than mine? If a guy who wants to see the entire game, maybe just once, just to say he's seen it, wants to put the time and money in how can you say he doesn't care about the game, or the other guys care more? Everyone should get a chance to play, not just the "hardcore" players.

>>1019469
>I have never seen such behavior. If you're playing on a machine, it's yours until you leave the cabinet.

I'm sorry you have such a selfish mentality. Me, me, me; it's mine you can't have it. The west just doesn't get it.

>The highest skilled player getting to play the most is only true in a fighting game

This is patently untrue. The more skilled a player is, the longer his credit will last.

>>1019485
>But why would their money and time be any more valuable than mine?

Money is money. It's their value as a player of the game that is higher than yours.

>If a guy who wants to see the entire game, maybe just once, just to say he's seen it, wants to put the time and money in how can you say he doesn't care about the game, or the other guys care more?

If you cannot see how a person who has actually put in the time to become good at the game, playing it over and over to increase his skill over who knows how long, care more about the game than the person who wants to "see the levels one time," I don't know what to tell you. You're clueless.

>Everyone should get a chance to play, not just the "hardcore" players.

Your chance, within the bounds of being considerate of others, is one credit like everyone else.

>>1019495
I'm just looking at the context of OP's comic. Let's say Ronnie just likes Metal Slug and while he's out stops by an arcade and saw MS3 was there. Maybe he hasn't played it for 10 years and wants to re-play all the levels one more time for the memories. No one else is around, so he gets $5 in quarters and goes to town.

You're telling me in that scenario he's "hogging" the machine? He has every right to play it as anyone else on Earth. If someone comes later when he's starting the final level, too bad, they should wait because he's put in too much money to just walk away and re-invest another $5 later. Just because the second guy may have spent 6 months learning it so he can 1cc it doesn't mean he has any more right to the machine than Ronnie. First come first serve, like you said money is money, Ronnie is a paying customer.

>>1019376
When you die your turn is over. It's no different than when you're at home taking turns playing a single player game.

>>1019487
By your own silly logic, it's selfish to be good at games, because you get a disproportionate amount of time per credit.

Honestly, no one here seems concerned with any sort of actual fairness, they just want to have an edge on relatively poor players.

>>1019469
>If you're playing on a machine, it's yours until you leave the cabinet.

No, it isn't. Especially if it's a game you can't even continue in. If you were sitting there playing Donkey Kong in an arcade, and there were people waiting in line to play you better stand up when you die. Otherwise you're just being a dick.

>>1019508
Yes, he's hogging the machine in this example. Arcade culture is brutal like that.

If you're playing an arcade machine, and that continue screen comes up when someone is behind you in line, it's considered rude to continue even if you're on the very last level. If it's just one guy, or a couple of guys you might ask if they mind you staying on, but by no means are they obligated to let you.

>>1019519
>By your own silly logic, it's selfish to be good at games, because you get a disproportionate amount of time per credit.

Wisdom distinguishes things that differ.

>>1019531

>Arcade culture is brutal like that.

It's 2013. No one gives a shit about "arcade culture".

>>1019540
If you don't give a shit then stop bothering those of us who do.

>>1019541

In the scenarios described in this thread, it is you who are bothering us.

>>1019545
No, I'm afraid you would be the ignorant outsider going into a place and hindering the regular users, then getting offended and whining about how it isn't fair when they don't cater to you.

>>1019508
>He has every right to play it as anyone else on Earth.

Why do people say things like this? Etiquette is not about "rights."

>>1019550

>follow my secret club's rules guys!
>p-please

>>1019540
If you go to a serious arcade in the US (not Dave and Busters) you'll find the same old habits from the 90s.

>>1019554
As has been described, don't play by the rules, you get treated like shit. Don't like it, go home. No one's asking you to comply, we're just telling you how it is.

>>1019565

>Don't like it, go home.

Make me.

>>1019558

The only thing that's poor etiquette in this thread would be kicking someone off a machine that they were minding their own business on.

>>1019573
So tough and strong.

>>1019554
It's not exactly secret if everyone is telling you, "hey, stop being a dick."

>>1019558
The more I talk about this issue with people, the more I agree with Icycalm that some people, most people, will just never get it. There's no point explaining it to them because they'll never understand. I should have just taken his word for it and I would have wasted a lot less of my time.

>>1019579

>bother someone while playing a game
>even try to kick them off
>"dude stop being a dick"

>>1019579

Psst, it's the club that's secret.

>>1019570
You're making the mistake of thinking you can "mind your own business" on a machine. You can't. If somebody comes up and wants to throw down a quarter and interrupt your "session" they can. That's just how it is.

You can't go get $5 in quarters and reserve a machine for 30 minutes or an hour.

Best thing to do is come in during the hours of less business if you just want to get in some practice against the CPU or finish a single player run. Or, become a regular and people will naturally leave you be. Except sometimes they won't, because it's an arcade. Not a gym, or a club, or your house.

>>1019584
Everyone here is saying "that's how it is in arcades," there is no secret anything being suggested.

>>1019580
I don't throw this word around a lot, but I feel like "entitlement" sums up a lot of the complaints the new gen has about arcades.

>>1019581
American here, you're making our individualism look bad with this "I shouldn't be expected to give anyone around me any consideration whatsoever, I'm a FREE MAN with my money to spend as a I wish" crap.

>>1019581
You're not trying to kick them off. If you die it's their turn.

>>1019591
I agree. There are so many posts in this thread talking about, "The machine is mine until I'm done with it," "I have a right to play it like everyone else," etc. It makes me sick.

>>1019596

Circlejerk some more, guys.

>>1019607
>a few people agreeing is automatically circlejerking

I want the /v/ to stay away a little longer. It's especially inappropriate considering the whole thread is people arguing.

>>1019592

This is so backwards. The person playing needs to be considerate to everyone else in the arcade, but the people not playing don't have to be considerate towards the player?

You can say "that's how it works" all day, but that doesn't make it right.

>>1019531
>by no means are they obligated to let you.

I'd like to see them try to boot me off. There's no law saying I can't keep playing, and I'm sure the manager gives no fucks as long as someone is putting money into the machine. I would hope anyone waiting would have enough decency to let the guy finish his game, but I guess simple respect and politeness doesn't exist in this world anymore.

>Arcade culture is brutal like that
Give me a fucking break. It's a video game, not a religion or way of life. It's supposed to be a fun pass time, and half the people in this thread are way too uptight about this.

>>1019610
I don't see anyone promoting slamming your quarter down and saying "HA HA TOO BAD FAGGOT" right as he's about to beat the boss of a fighting game or whatever. The consideration is, 1 credit per play if people are waiting. It's not inconsiderate to expect everyone to follow the same rule.

Of course it's possible to be a dick about any informal "rule" like this but the negative comments have been addressed towards people saying "no one can tell me what to do, this machine is mine."

>>1019625
>trying to invoke "respect and politeness" when you started with "There's no law saying I can't!"

>>1019610
It's bullshit, but people only care as long as they are the ones being favored. If it's going good for them then fuck anyone else. They don't like to wait so fuck the guy playing, let me play. But when they're playing they cry the opposite and tell the new guys who come and wait to fuck off. It's selfish.

The fundamental issue here is that you are in public. You aren't in your room, you aren't at your friend's house, you are in a public establishment and have to deal with other people. There are other people waiting for you to finish. If someone wants to interrupt your game, they can. If someone wants to challenge you, they can. If you try to hog a machine to yourself, people can take it from you. You don't own shit except the credits you've purchased. The unwritten "one credit per player" rule is simply an application of this, and it works. If you don't like it, you can cry and moan all you want, but it isn't going to make people be nice to you and wait for you to finish credit feeding some game you suck at.

>>1019625
>I'm sure the manager gives no fucks as long as someone is putting money into the machine

The manager will take the side of the guys trying to boot you off. Almost every arcade OP will go by the "game over = new player" rule if there is a line of players waiting to play.

And furthermore, if it's a pure arcade it's likely the OP (that's what they're called) is some fighting gamer from the 90s, and he's going to be a real hard ass.

All I see in this thread are people trying to find excuses for why they should play and other people shouldn't. Don't like a guy trying to beat a single player game by himself, maybe you should have left the house a little sooner and got there first. Or go down to the food court for 15 minutes and relax with a drink and then come back. It works both ways, he wants to play as much as you do, but suddenly he has to stop his fun because you showed up? It doesn't work like that, you compromise. You let him finish, and when he's done he steps aside to let you play. You can't just boot him off because you feel like you deserve to play it more.

>>1019679
I hardly think the manger would do that, for reasons already addressed in previous posts, that credit feeders = more money for the arcade vs a guy who wants to 1cc a game on 25 cents.

>>1014567
>Playing this game has become my life. Good job on winning, now meet Mr. Knife.

>>1019687
Credit feeders are only more money if there isn't a line of customers waiting that you would alienate by catering to the casual.

>>1019680
Not how it works. See >>1019653

>>1019687

The OP (that's what they're fucking called) will not take that stance. Perhaps it would be worth more to them monetarily in the long run, but that just not what they do in real life. They honor the notion of taking turns over profit.

>>1019680
Plenty of players do just that. But it's pure courtesy, and if somebody decides not to do it, you can't bitch about it. Because you'd be a bitch.

>>1019710

Oh no, some dudebro mall rat who's stuck in the 90's thinks I'm a bitch!

>>1019704
>valuing ideals over money

Nice try, but no one does this.

>>1019715
Have you ever even been in a real arcade? Not a cinema or mall arcade, but the real thing. Places like the old Chinatown Fair, Super Just Games, Stargate, Snookers, arcade legacy, etc.

>>1019723
Arcades went out of business for a lot of reasons, and although sheer greed is probably #1, ideals is definitely up there too.

>>1019738
Also the culture shift. The rise of ticket redemption sealed the fate of the traditional games. I watched it unfold, and it was very sad.

>>1019487
I don't think you get it. The rules are different in the west. I used to walk in to my old arcade, and you'd see a handful of people. There'd be five times as many machines as customers. No one's looking to play any one game in particular, they just want to sit at a machine, any machine, and have some fun until they run out of money.

Now, if you're in a place where you've got standing room only for the crowds who want to play a game, I could see you might need some rules so people actually get to play games. However, you'd think the arcade owner would see the sheer amount of people waiting in line and decide it might be worth the money to invest in additional machines so such behavior isn't necessary. And honestly, unless I really enjoyed watching a game (I did used to enjoy watching MK Trilogy before I saw a trillion matches), I don't think me or many other westerners would sit around for 20 minutes in line to play a single credit's worth of game time, especially if we could go elsewhere and not have to deal with the amount of people.

>>1014094
>You aren't meant to use continues in arcades.

Says who? They were invented for arcade games in the first place.

>>1019962
I can't think of any buy-in continue that predates Super Mario Bros.

I think part of the problem is distinguishing what type of game it is. If it's a fighting game or a game without continues, yeah, you're done if you lose. It's only common sense for things to work that way.

But if say, it's some long ass game built around excessive continues, such as The Simpsons, there's no way in hell you can expect someone to leave as long as they have money on them.

>>1019969
Fantasy from '81

>>1014228
except 'クソ' doesn't literally mean shit, it's like how we use 'shit' or 'fuck' as an exclamation.

>>1019990
クソ can mean feces/excrement.

>>1014267
I did work experience at a local primary school a few years ago. A kid there called a teacher a 'fucking cunt'.

He was obviously from a bad family, you can tell. (dirty clothes, bad haircut. etc.)

>>1019995
forgot wwwjdic source

>>1014590
I am and always will be a huge tekken fan. Whenever there's a get together of old friends (including the ones who we don't like as much as some of the others, but hey, we get along) we crack out the tekken. Doesn't matter what version to me, I own and play them all.

There's one of those guys amongst our friends who thinks learning the move list is the key to victory. Uses all sorts of flashy bullshit moves that are useless compared to the basic punch or kick combos. He hasn't beaten me yet, but I have a good story.

We were playing tekken tag tournament 2 at a friends place during a party. I'd had a few beers already but I felt like gaming, so we did a 2v2. I was with my friend, and the annoying move list guy was with another one of my friends.

Didn't matter how hard he tried (kept pausing to check the move list too.) he kept losing.

when will people learn tekken is about flow, not moves? just play the game, and you'll learn moves on your own, you'll know them that much better if you do it that way.

>>1014871
There are few things that feel better than a 100% even fight, where a single mistake could mean you lose.

>>1015204
With tekken, you just had to play with the character enough to learn them. I never bothered with yoshimitsu, though I always wanted to play him.

>>1020002
I always loved Tekken for that. I started off pretty much button mashing as Lei, but the more I played, the more small combos I learned, and the more I learned how to chain them together for great effect.

>>1015336
lol
at least he's having fun.

>>1014590
If there's one thing worse than credit feeders it's people who complain about someone being "unfair" or something like that in a fighting game.

>>1020021
It's why I consider it one of the best fighting game series.

It's simple enough for beginners to get into (because of the 4 button 4 limb type gameplay) and as you play you learn new combos or throws, new ways to win and you remember them.

I'm a big fan of King of Fighters, but nothing can beat Tekken in how beginner friendly it is.

>>1015336
God, I miss doing that on TC3. I wasn't as hardcore as that man, but I'd move and dodge enough to work up a sweat, and that fucking neckbeard Tilt guy used to always drop whatever he was doing to watch when I came in. On one hand, he wanted to boot me out of there for playing forever without sticking money in, on the other, he would laugh his ass off and sometimes have a crowd of other people watching.

>>1016552
>It's my machine, and despite it being primarily for 2-player - along with the fact we're in a public arcade that's meant for competition - you can't play

Speaking of douchebags

>>1019980
>>1019680
These guys know what they're talking about

I've only been arcading since about 2000 and I rarely, rarely ever see lines for games especially in recent years. Maybe the arcades you guys go to are far more crowded than mine, but almost always far less than half of the machines are even being used at the places I frequent. If someone is playing a single-player game and you're too impatient that you try to kick him off you're going to be seen as a massive douchebag by everyone in the arcade and management is probably going to kick you out if you guys' arcades are anything like mine. With fighting games I totally see the whole thing about unwritten rules about challenging and getting kicked off when there's a line, but for fuck's sake you grown men this is not the 1990s. Clinton is not president. Music Television is not a hip thing. You guys are almost as bad as the Sega vs Genesis fanboys in elementary school.

mfw this thread

>>1020058
>Sega vs Genesis
Super Nintendo vs Genesis
I can't type

>>1016552
That is kind of disappointing. If there's a second slot not in use, it's anyone who wants it. It's literally the only time someone has a recourse built in to the game to claim the right to play it.

Any other game, you can play till you leave and someone takes your spot, but a fighting game? You'd better be prepared to defend your right to play.

>>1020058
>mfw this thread

'bout sums it up. I love games as much as the next guy, been playing since the 80s, but even I think some of the people in this thread are way, way, WAY too into it. People talking of physical violence because someone else wants to play, all this hostility... you guys need to step away from the machines and regain your focus. We all love games and should be helping each other to play better, and encouraging people to go to arcades again. After reading this thread I want nothing more than to stay far away from them.

>>1020058

all of this post, not that it'll mean much since im pretty sure most of the people acting like raging arcade toughguys in this thread are the same people who shit up the board in every other thread on a daily basis

why would someone just put a quarter down, not say anything, and expect people to move for you? at least say something like "i'm next"

>>1014237
well he did it wrong, because it'll just pick up where you left off. So if he got on he'd be playing your game. You did nothing wrong.

>>1016196
billiards is srs bsns.

I usually gravitated toward Golden Axe, The Simpsons, X-Men, or games where you teamed up with other players.

That being said, I always hated that feeling when it was just me and one other guy, and I ran out of quarters and had to tell him, "welp, guess you're on your own."

>>1015321
>11 in 2006
>on 4chan in 2013

Holy fuck I'm fucking old