/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10193327
>Do they hold up?
You use the cross button to accelerate, not up.

>>10193327
They're p. litty my dude.

Legitimately some of the worst controlling racing games ever made.

Absolutely, yes. They're antigravity machines rather than cars though, so you have to control them like you would a plane.

>>10193405
thank you. never saw the appeal.

>>10193370
fr?

>>10193327
Yes they're still great with the second game probably still being my favourite.

Check out Wipeout Phantom Edition the enhanced PC source port for the original Wipeout
https://github.com/wipeout-phantom-edition/wipeout-phantom-edition

Also BallisticNG a a pretty good Wipeout clone on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/473770/BallisticNG/

>>10193405
>>10193435
Filtered

>How are the PS1 Wipeouts?
Great
> Do they hold up?
yes, just played XL in 1080p with texture filtering/MSAA and a big subwoofer, shit was cash. Ditto with 3

>>10193405
>>10193435
get a load of these plebs

>>10193327
2097/XL and 3SE are probably the best in the series. Never got into Wipeout 1 and the PS2 games feel like completely different games

>>10193327
>How are the PS1 Wipeouts?
yes>>10193327
>Do they hold up?
no

>>10193707

upscaling, filtering and AA my man, the pop in sucks but the low poly models actually work great with the TDR aesthetic

>>10193405
>>10193327
2 and 3 are good. But i think pulse and Fury are better.

The controls are great, whiners jus never got gud.

>>10193527
The first one sucks though.

>>10193746
What pop-in?

>>10193327
They hold up visually when compared to fzerox x which looks as bare bones as it comes.

I don't get the "hit wall slow down" meme with WipeOut 1, if you're colliding with the perimeter that much then learn the course.

>>10193405
Theyre not that bad. Atmosphere and music makes up for it enough to keep it fun for a while. There's a lot more racing for that console too

>>10193868
It's a lot like fzero but slightly more difficult. Fzero is still more fun but ps1 has more to play and nitro kart / ridge racer are on par with fzero

>>10194037
(Along with some others too)

>>10193327
>Do they hold up?
I'm thinking of filtering this phrase. If you ever use it, it tells us that you're not interested in retro games at all, you just want some clout by trying the classics but you're not going to play them with an honest mindset. Then you go to >>>/v/ and complain about how dated these games are because you refuse to approach them in their own terms.

No, they don't hold up, stay away from them, play the newest Gran Turismo or something, leave us alone.

>>10194046
Schizo gibberish

>>10194049
he is right

I-IS THAT.....LE HECKIN Y2K AESTHETIC????

I"M GONNA CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>10194109
I take it back, THIS is schizo gibberish

>>10193327
Great, stylish af, great music and controls, one thing though.
First Wipeouts and Ridge/Rage racers do not support analog controller however, they do support NeGcon.

To get analog controls in those games, in emulator select controller type NeGcon and bind analog sticks of a controller you are using to analog buttons of the NeGcon and enjoy early Ridge Racers and Wipeouts with analog input.
Works even better with TOCA and GT2 which by default set up very large deadzones on analog input but NeGcon does not have this issue for some reason, plus you can select your own deadzone which is not something that you could do with analog controller.

>>10193527
Cool, thanks anon. The classic wall collision physics are from 2097/XL right?

>>10194328
Modern - BallisticNG
Classic - Wipeout 2097/XL
Legacy - Original

>>10194046
This. 6th gen fags are insufferable

>>10193327
1 is a true classic, with unforgiving control that filters zoomers. The others aren't bad either.

You can play 1 in the browser https://phoboslab.org/wipegame/

2097 is peak WipeOut and Qirex is KING. Poorahna is a cheat craft and doesn't count.

where does wipeout 64 rank?

>>10195497
It's just Wipeout 2097 without verticality, and the music frankly sucks, so it's only better than wipeout fusion.

>>10195202
>2097 is peak WipeOut and Qirex is KING.
Ultra based.

>>10193527
What game is this?

>>10195751
that's the phantom edition of the first wipeout linked in the post

>>10194046
it's working>>10196409 thanks for suggestion

>>10195497
64 is underrated IMO. The physics are slightly different than 2097. In 64 it feels more like the ships are skimming the air. You don't carve as "deep" into the corners with airbrakes, and it's a cool fast feeling. It's also very challenging in single-player unlike XL/2097. In 64 you have to be elite and have a couple perfect laps to get a measly 3rd place. Visually I think it's pretty good too, except that ugly jungle track, the one that's a redone version of Gare d'Europa.

For me, it's Auricom.

>>10197810
Nope. Not true. It's worse.

CruisN, rush and fzero were good tho

I'm having a really hard time getting into 2097 and 3 lads

>>10195202
As much much as I like the other games, the dystopian vibe of 2097 is unmatched holy shit.
Reminder to listen to FSOL to get corememory flashbacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fxXsX9rbLw

>>10193327

XL and 3 are excellent games that definitely hold up and are fun to play to this day. 3 however has a very high learning curve and requires a fair bit of practice to get right. Wipeout 1 feels quite dated and clunky in comparison.

>>10199593
Stop playing the n00bcrafts and switch to quiREX

>>10195202
>https://phoboslab.org/wipegame/
cool tech demo, but how the fuck are you supposed to play something like that without pressure sensitivity

>>10201202
By getting good. We didn't need these training wheels back then.

>>10200775
I feel that 3 learning curve flatlines the moment you unlock Qirex, Icaras or even Assegai.
I prefer Qirex and Icaras but it seems to be a popular choice.

informationpill me on airbrakes
I keep whacking into walls but airbraking oversteers me

Wipeout is still incredible. I'm partial to 3, but it seems like people are all over the place with their opinions. The aesthetic in 3 is just so good and the sound track is nuts. X-pander by Sasha is too fucking killer. Playing this currently on a CRT, can't get enough.

>>10193327
Pretty shitty. Controls and wobbly physics completely ruin these games.

>>10193527
Is there any information on source ports of the next games? Got into this series with this port of 1 and it's so good, I dont mind waiting for ports of the rest especially if I can put my own music in those too

>>10201909
Airbrakes push the back of your craft away from the side that you're activating. Imagine you're trying to go straight, and someone walks up from the side and starts pushing on your ship near the back. It changes your trajectory by swinging the rear, as opposed to regular steering which points the nose. You can use them for tighter turns, to make small adjustments, and also to swing/drift around corners with the right ships. But you gotta experiment with the physics and feel it out until it's second nature. Just remember that airbrakes slow you down, so also try laps where you don't use them much at all.

>>10202441
You don't have to use them all the time, simply stepping off the gas helps too.

>>10201928
I feel the same way anon. I've been playing for a couple years now and got hooked. 3 is my favorite as well because I like how clean and consistent it looks, but I am slowly converting to 2097 because the style is wild to the point of being almost psychedelic. Lots of colorful stripes and patterns.

>>10201909
Use the opposite airbrake on corner exit to correct

>>10201909
Not related to airbrakes but here are two things that helped me: 1) I was cranking too hard on the analogue sticks (I use a 360 pad) and kept pitching my nose up and down accidentally, which wasn't visually obvious to me and was affecting my turning, and 2) when getting a feel for the physics, it helped to let go off the gas after going over bumps and just pay attention to how the ship bobs.

>>10195202
>2097 Qirex
My favorite ship as well. I also like Qirex in 3, but it doesn't feel quite the same, and doesn't look as cool. It's cool but a different kind of cool.

>>10201259
Based.