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Daily reminder that The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (available for Nintendo 64™ home entertainment system) is a non-linear gaming experience.

>> No.10188714

If it's non linear then why did I turn 360 degrees and walk away towards a better game

>> No.10188717
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>>10188704
Ok.

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>>10188714

>> No.10188724

>>10188717
I'm glad we agree! :^)

>> No.10188727

>>10188714
if you turn 360 degrees you end up facing the same way

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>>10188727
newfaggot alert

>> No.10188743

Point #4 is bullshit therefore everything is wrong.

>> No.10188750

>>10188743
You have no argument so therefore you opinion is irrelevant.

>> No.10188776

>>10188704
>OoT is non-linear since you can sequence break the dungeon order

Cool argument bro, But the game is still linear for normal people

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>>10188727

>> No.10188791

>>10188776
Actually it's non-linear for all the reasons stated in the pic that you ignored because you're angry.

>> No.10188796

>>10188776
>the game is linear for NPCs
well, yeah

>> No.10188826

>>10188704
Zelda died when it went 3D

>> No.10188839

>>10188826
no, it just died right afterwards. OoT remains the best game in the series. same with RE4.

>> No.10188882

>>10188704
Reminder that OoT is so non-linear it lets you outright ignore and skip whole dungeons, which neither LoZ nor LttP do.

>> No.10188897

>>10188704
Agreed, but it really doesn't matter if it's linear or not. "linearity = bad" is a shit mentality to begin with

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>>10188704
Reminder: this is a janitor who does this. I was just warned for posting “modern videogame” content. But I posted a gif of a ps1 game. This person is unhinged completely insane. And will try and ban you for any reason. I got warned for posting a ps1 game gif, because this zoomer tranny janny doesn’t even know what retro videogames are.

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>>10188905
>anyone who doesn't share my opinion is a janny
nope, cope.

>> No.10188926
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>>10188913
No it’s been proven and this specific janitor doesn’t even know what retro games are. But I suspect that person is you.

>> No.10188927

>>10188882
good point. you don't even need to enter bottom of the well if you have haunted wasteland memorized.

>> No.10188932

>>10188926
you have no idea who you're talking to. don't make me drop a dime.

>> No.10188936

>>10188927
>You can skip entire worlds in SMB1
>Therefore it is non linear
Sounds like extreme braindamage (You)

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>>10188932
Do what you gotta do, bootlicker

>> No.10188942

>>10188936
>a sidescroller is the same thing as a 3D adventure game with large option spaces and objectively non-linear elements
I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

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>>10188946

>> No.10188957

You guys are fucking weird

>> No.10188960

>>10188750
>some part of the game intended backtrack THEREFORE developers intended out of order
Non sequitur.

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>> No.10188974

>>10188960
>developers intentionally included a bevy of optional content, b-but the dungeons don't apply
try again

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>> No.10188981

>>10188979
needs a blunt, gold chain, backwards hat and colt 45

>> No.10188982

>>10188981
Also make him black

>> No.10188983
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>>10188704

>> No.10188989

>>10188982
that's just a reason for floigalysis, not a cause

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>> No.10188994

>>10188962
>>10188979
>>10188983
>>10188992
moigle would be proud

>> No.10189006
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First Croc, now Link... who's next up for floigulation?

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>> No.10189138

>10188704
The left cant't meme.

>> No.10189149
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>>10189138
Agreed.

>> No.10189180

>>10188704
You have to be autistic to hold map markers as an equal source of information to Navi. Navi is a character in the story raising questions, and the player, having a sense of what good storytelling is, is going to respond to her dialogue by doing the things she says. It's not a good story to have Navi tell you to go the forest temple over and over as she's being ignored.

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>>10189180
>Navi is a character in the story
you mean like the owl who tells you to use the map to see where to go next when you first enter hyrule field? uh oh, stinky.
> It's not a good story to have Navi tell you to go the forest temple over and over as she's being ignored.
you mean the thing she does any time you aren't in a dungeon, e.g. doing any and all of the game's side content? who would've known, you aren't ackshually supposed to do collect chickens or deliver ingredients to an old witch because navi never tells you to. those funny developers.

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>>10189225
https://youtu.be/2AhGYo9TExU?si=W4A-NiiqnECIPiEK

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>>10189243
>no argument
lol didn't watch, you've conceded.

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>>10189246
This has none over and over. Oot is linear, breaking the game doesn’t magically make it non linear. You’re just a troll, but you’ve been shit on so hard you keep clinging to this post, shitting up the board, pretending everyone doesn’t see you for what you really are.

>> No.10189265

It’s actually linear because I pick it up and walk straight to the trash can and put it in the trash

>> No.10189267
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>>10189260
>Oot is linear
Weird, how can I play the dungeons out of order then? You must have a personalized copy.

>> No.10189271

>>10189267
Is it possible to flogiulate Link?

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>>10189271
Only one way to find out.

>> No.10189291
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10189291

ayo, real quick,
lemme drop a dime on ya...

we name is Floigan, that's F to da N,
we come talkin' bout bidness, cuz we ain't no fren

we got dogs in da yard, and a big ol' spliff,
bouta pipe down some shawtys with dem big ol' hips

we got Colt in the can, and a 9 in the hand,
and now it's bout time ya hear da master plan...

we come from the past, to bring some news,
"Floigan Bros. here to fight the jews!"

with muscle, wit and Floigan force,
we return from '01 to correct the course

but we can't do it, not without you,
and not without the man who said Floigan will do

Bernie lookin' down, guardian angel,
saw the future in us when we was still on the table

casting dreams, on a Moigle and a meme,
Big Bern and SEGA brought Floigan to da team

and now it's time, that we done some work,
the junkyard's closed and we loadin' the hurt

the jews on the run, early passover,
it's bout time for Mario to move over

now the dream is cast, and we sellin' out,
but we ain't leavin' on a single doubt

the plumber's dead, and Bernie too,
but the future is bright for Floigan and the crew...

word.

>> No.10189302

>the floigan faggot is also the zelda shitposter
This board is done for.

>> No.10189305

>>10189302
>creates OC
>talks about actual video games
if only we could all be as based as floigbro

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>>10189305
You lost and now you’re trying to subvert the floig, but you will be absorbed into the floigalverse

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>>10189318
>low effort edits

>> No.10189331

>>10189267
>can play only a few adult dungeon out of order
>sequence breaks the rest
>oot is non linear
Ooot has a very small amount of non linearity. >”smb is non linear because I don’t have to kill any enemies or get any coins, which is non linear gameplay”

That’s you

>> No.10189335

>>10189325
This is a high effort edit, thanks for sharing.

>> No.10189336

>>10189331
>can play only a few adult dungeon out of order
ackshually you can play all of them out of order without sequence breaks

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>>10189325
>posts a low effort edit
Kek

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>>10189336
I did say that in my post, carl

>> No.10189343

>>10189341
>can play only a few
>sequence breaks the rest
>b-but you can play them all out of order without sequence breaks
dyslexia moment or just retarded?

>> No.10189347

>>10189225
See, this whole semantical argument is brought on by forcing your projection onto others and saying "Nope, you played the game wrong. Try again."

>> No.10189349

>>10189343
Still doesn’t make oot non linear if you have to break the game

>> No.10189353

>>10189349
>you have to break the game
I didn't realize using an item the developers put in the game or the shortcuts they put in the game were "breaking the game".

>> No.10189357

>>10189347
>facts are semantic
oh, rabbi.

>> No.10189358

>>10189353
If you use it to break the game, then yeah. Games aren’t immune to bugs, mouth breather.

>> No.10189362

>>10189358
>If you use it to break the game
I don't. What now?

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>>10189362
Well since this whole thread is based on falsities, the words you post are just lies. It does break the game, what now?

>> No.10189371

>>10189369
>It does break the game, what now?
Well, that's simple: we examine facts to determine if this statement is true or not. Fact dictates that I can, say, use Farore's Wind (an item that the developers included for the purpose of skipping portions of dungeons) to skip a portion of a dungeon without any negative impact on the game or story. Ergo, your statement is false. Thanks for playing.

>> No.10189384

>>10189353
Is there an order? Yes.
>The entirity of Child Link's section
>Navi's directions based on your progression in the story
>Sheik's directions after becoming an adult

Does that mean you have to do it in that specific order when directed? Not necessarily, but there are road blocks preventing you doing that at certain points.
>Can't do the Shadow Temple before beating For, Fir and Wat first
>Can't do the Spirit Temple until getting the Longshot and Lens of Truth
Right there the argument falls flat on its face because the sequense can't be fully broken, it can only be done witht he first 3 Temples.

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>>10189371
There is no facts. This is your hedadcanon. You need to actively do what the devs didnt intend in order to sequence. Gaywhores wind is a bug, they definitely didn’t intend for you to use it to break the game. Bugs happen, not a big deal. You’re twisting this bug into some godsend from the devs that explicitly tells you to sequence break. Insanity, anon, insanity.

>> No.10189396

>>10189386
>the item is a bug
It doesn't even have a legitimate use? The entire item itself is a bug? That's an interesting theory, tell me more.

>> No.10189397

>>10189318
>>10189369
>>10189386
>Floigan poster isn an i-toddler
Hope the thread gets prunned.

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>>10189397
He's just a knockoff floigulite.

>> No.10189401

>>10189386
>>10189396
Oversight. The word you're looking for is oversight.

>> No.10189408

>>10189401
>it's an oversight to use the item exactly as it was intended
lol

>> No.10189423

>>10189397
If you’re not the janny I’d be surprised, but this is what’s happening.
>Tranny janny got wrecked
>tries to subvert floig, like the Marxist they are
>you believe it
Read between the lines

>> No.10189428

>>10189384
>The entirity of Child Link's section
>Navi's directions based on your progression in the story
>Sheik's directions after becoming an adult
you're given hints for where to go. you aren't forced to go there. you can't even see all of the game's content unless you ignore the hints. navi will scream about forest temple when you're playing a minigame but will leave you alone if you go to fire temple first. hints are not gospel of the dev's intentions or there would be no secrets in the game to begin with.
>Right there the argument falls flat on its face because the sequense can't be fully broken, it can only be done witht he first 3 Temples.
wrong, you can play either shadow or spirit first, you can even play spirit before fire, and you're ignoring the existence of dungeons like ice cavern and gerudo fortress which have no pre-requisites from other dungeons.

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>>10189423
Stop being so coy, let's be honest: I stole your Shiturn thunder with Floigan, then you came back with low effort edits and fasleflagging. Your best defense is to keep posting my meme. You lost.

>> No.10189437

>>10189408
It's a fair argument to make. They probably didn't think the player would circumvent, say, the Water Temple with it, since it's intened use is a checkpoint of sorts and the fact that you're skipping a good chunk of the dungeon by way of doing it like that and the fucked up jump at the top, yet another oversight.

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>>10189428
Nobody is contesting that you don’t have to go straight to the fire temple, exactly when she tells you. The pint is in order to do most things non linearly, you have to exploit bugs. Gaywhores wind is not just an oversight. It’s a bug, the classic definition of a bug in videogames. Lots of bugs go unnoticed.

>> No.10189442

>>10189437
you're arguing that farore's wind has properties which were unintentional, while ignoring the fact that it's outright stated purpose is to do the very thing you're calling an oversight. what's the "right" use for farore's wind? to prevent backtracking? to get past a difficult area? anything you could possibly call a legitimate use can also be called a sequence break, because the item itself was literally designed to let you move around dungeons in ways you normally wouldn't be able to.

>> No.10189448

>>10189441
>the item is a bug
sorry man, i think you're irrepairably retarded.

>> No.10189449

>>10189434
>posts rob deerdick low effort edits
Ok, I don’t see this as a problem, thank you for contributing. Also, you’ll never beat this>>10189126
>>10189126
>>10189126
>>10189126
>>10189126

>> No.10189452

>>10189428
>you're given hints for where to go
Doesn't matter, you're still prevented at certain points. Your autism won't change that fact.

>you can play either shadow or spirit first
Not until you beat the first 3.

>you can even play spirit before fire
Nope. You need the Longshot to cross the sand chasm and then the LoT for the ghost thereafter and you can't get the latter until you beat the first 3 temples. You didn't play the game. Get over it.

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>>10189449
>using Rob Floigdek's pre-floig name
Embarassing, he moved on a long time ago dude.

>> No.10189454

>>10189453
Kek, that’s a great low effort edit.
>deadname
You can’t stop can you

>> No.10189458

>>10189442
Doesn't matter. It's an oversight. You're autism won't change that.

>> No.10189463

>>10189452
>Not until you beat the first 3.
you don't need to beat the three to play Spirit Temple retard.
>You need the Longshot to cross the sand chasm
Which has... nothing to do with fire temple.
>then the LoT for the ghost thereafter and you can't get the latter until you beat the first 3 temples
the ghost you don't need because you can literally memorize the path through haunted wasteland? yeah, you didn't play the game.

>> No.10189468

>>10189454
How does it feel knowing I memed Floigan into reality in 6 months while your Shitturn'ing never caught on after 7 years? I even took Croc from you. You lost, pal. Floig yourself up and move on.

>> No.10189479

>>10189463
>you don't need to beat the three to play Spirit Temple retard.
Prove it. You cannot get to the temple without thr Longshot and LoT.

>You need the Longshot to cross the sand chasm
Which has... nothing to do with fire temple.

>the ghost you don't need because you can literally memorize the path through haunted wasteland?
Oh no, she's autistic semantic.

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>>10189479
>Prove it.
gladly, pic related. what should i BTFO you about next?