/vr/ - Retro Games

>ps2 zoomer has goyslop taste

>>10168884
I can tell from your post that you have normie tastes. This console was mostly worthwhile to people who play arcade games.

It's the only home console that has Power Stone 2. That alone makes it better than the shitcube.

>>10168884
That’s fine but this gay post doesn’t magically make the n64 have games

>Why doesn't everyone hate what I hate and like what I like?
Because opinion isn't monolithic ya goofball.

>>10168884
>No good FPS games due to its controller having only one analog stick
007 on 64, is a piece of shit, only liked by nostalgia troons who never played a shooter on a pc. Also, only uses 1 stick.
>games were ported later
Yeah, like most of the greatest hits on every other console.
>gimmickry titles
Spoken like a casual faggot who doesn't like awesome experimental games. Go play nigs of Duty and NigBA2k.

•3PS/FPS: Bang! Gunship, Cyber Troopers Virtual On 2, Frame Gride, Gundam Side Story Ashes, Head Hunter, MDK2, Outrigger, Red Dog, Slave Zero, Soldier of Fortune

•Action: Berserk, Dynamite Cop, Elemental Gimmick Gear, Heavy Metal Geomatrix, Lack of love, Maken X, Shenmue 1&2, Spawn Demon's Hand, Zombie Revenge

•Fighting: Capcom vs SNK 2, DOA 2, Fighting vipers 2, Force Five, Guilty Gear X, Kenju, KoF XI, MVC2, Power Stone 1&2, Project justice, Soul Calibur, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Virtua Fighter 3

•RPG: Black/Matrix AD, Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia, Time Stalkers

•Horror: Blue Stinger, Carrier, D2, Dino Crisis, Resident Evil 2/3/CVX, Illbleed

•Vehicle: Crazy Taxy 1&2, Hydro Thunder, Millennium Racer, Re-Volt, Sega GT, Sega Rally 2, Star Wars Racer, Stunt GP, Test Drive 6 & V Rally, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2, Toy Commander, Toy Racer, Vigilante 8 2nd, Zusar Vasar

•Platform: Evil Twin, Frogger 2, Jet Grind Radio, Ms Pacman Maze Madness, Napple Tale, Rayman 2, Sonic Adventure 1&2, Super Magnetic Neo, Tomb Raider Revelations & Chronicles

•Run 'N Gun/Shmup: Bangai-O, Cannon Spike, Dolphin Blue, Expendable, Border Down, Chaos Field, Charge 'N Blast, Fast Striker, Gunbird 2, Gunlord, Ikaruga, Karous, Last hope, Mars Matrix, Psyvariar 2, Rainbow Cotton, Redux Dark Matters, Shikigami Shiro 2, Sturmwind, Trigger Heart, Trizeal, Under Defeat, Zero Gunner 2

•Other: Chu Chu Rocket, Cosmic Smash, MoHo, Popn music 1-4, Rez, Sega Extreme Sports, Space Channel 5, Tetris 4D, Tony Hawk 2, Virtua Striker 2, Virtua Tennis 1&2, Wetrix, Worms Armageddon

>>10168884
>>No good FPS games due to its controller having only one analog stick
Playing FPS on a console is retarded anyway, even the best analog sticks will not give you the same level of precision as mouse and keyboard, which is why modern consoles have crutches like aim assist to make FPS games playable.
>>Most of the worthwhile RPGs and platformers were ported to later 6th consoles like Skies of Arcadia or Sonic Adventure.
Ported badly. Dreamcast is the way those games were intended to be experienced, everything else is a rush job to recoup some cost after the system was discontinued. Only Xbox could play those rush jobs at decent frame rate because it was just that powerful. But it didn't get many JRPGs ported anyway, because that was an eastern genre.
>>Surprisingly many awfully gimmicky titles. Imagine buying this console for something as mediocre as Shenmue.
You don't have to play those if you don't like them. Dreamcast got a lot of arcade ports, those are not gimmicky at all.

>>10168884
You don't need two analog sticks to play fps. Wsad is not analog and that's worked since the dawn of time and all the games ported to other consoles look and run worse.

>>10169357
Arcade games are gimmicky by nature because they physically cannot be deep.

>>10168884
>No good FPS games
picrelated. also, MOH on ps1 didn't utilize second analog stick, still pretty good

>No good FPS
Quake 3 Arena with keyboard, mouse and online...

>>10169410
Revolting. You may as well use a computer at this point.

>>10168884
When I check thse top xx lists for the dreamcast it has a shocking high amount of fighters and psx ports near the top.

Feels like the true unique ones are sonjc adventure, shenmue and some arcade ports like sega rally, crazy taxi and a few others.

Its overall Library feels underwhelming

dreamcast' short lifespan didnt helped.

DC had a bunch of FPS games and every region had a mouse and keyboard. If anything it's the first console not to have this problem.

>>10169424
This game came out a day after...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1SojKfgNI

>>10168884
bootyblasted esl nintoddler detected

>>10169530
how the fuck is esl an insult?

>>10168884
>He didn't say 'arcade' once.
this zoomzoom is NGMI

>>10169428
Ok zoomie, at the time you needed $1000 PC to get average performance in a game like Quake 3 Arena.
And the online play on Dreamcast was legit. You had to be there, and you weren't, therefore you will never understand the timeline.

>>10169386
>Takes an entire minute to load

>>10170090
bootyblasted esl nintoddler tourist detected

>>10168884
>Forget about the GCN or N64 not gaming games
No, I don't think I will. DreamCast mogged both of those consoles thoroughly.

>>10169386
Both medal of honor games on ps1 had what would be considered modern fps controls if you have a dualshock. It's really nice although i use the dpad because it stacks speed for diagonal movement.

>>10169026
>007 on 64, is a piece of shit, only liked by nostalgia troons who never played a shooter on a pc. Also, only uses 1 stick.
Wrong. I liked 007 when I played it a few years ago and I played Doom and Quake before that. Also you can rebind the controls to use dpad for movement and stick for aiming.

>>10169410
Even on stock pad its great 4 player split screen. People who hate have never touched a dreamcast before.

>>10169451
Yeah that's because you check top lists instead of playing its games

>>10168884
if dreamcast didn't had those games other consoles wouldn't have gotten them.
the same can be said of gamecube if gamecube didn't had those games those wouldn't have been ported to ps4 or xbox one (no other console could handle those games appart from wii and wii U due to retro compatibility)

>>10169451
it has several games no one heard of or played them.
>Phantasy Star Online
>Trigger Heart Excelica
>Canon Spike
>Zero Gunner 2
>Zombie REvenge
>Tokio Extreme Racer
>Tech Romancer
>Sakura Taisen
>Power Stone
several games got later ported to ps2 but had lower quality and gameplay overall

>>10171781

>>10168902
This, it was a Naomi with less RAM. That’s why Crazy Taxi was so accurate on it

>>10171836
Less RAM, and a cut down CPU, and a cut down graphics, and cut all the auxiliary features.
So it's not a Naomi at all.

>>10171842
The architecture was the same, that's what matters.

>>10171842
>and a cut down CPU
it's the same SH-4, at least get it right shitposter-kun

>>10168884
>What you're basically left with are a few good puzzle games here and there like Chu-Chu Rocket and Puyo Puyo but that's literally it.

it was the defacto arcade experience at home though.
They even had arcade sticks for the capcom/snkfags to enjoy unlimited plays at home.
So why do you think it's still a piece of shit in hindsight?

>>10171887
le arcade experience is shit, so the arcade experience at home is shit by association
>oh yeah, 5 minutes long games baby, gimme more of it. racing games with 2 tracks, another puyo rehash which has been the same since 1985, $60 each please.

>>10168884
dreamcast is a victim of the weird hype surrounding it from remorseful nonsupporters and nongamers and antigamers. If you wanted it to succeed you should have bought it instead of writing about it 10 years later about how it was the first time a console could connect to the internet (wrong and false and gay.) It's easy to appreciate for what it is instead of what FAGGOT journo COCK SUCKS wrote about it, it's a nice console but it's easy to see it truly lacked even the toppest of notchiest titles platforms like the saturn had. It feels like the library peaks at a strong 8/10 and there's nothing wrong with this, there's plenty of great 6, 7s and 8s on there but you'll find a lot of genres feel incomplete, like there was no resolution to their start of growth on the console which is a shame.

>>10171803
dumb anime poster

What is it about the Dreamcast that makes PS2 third worlders so tremendously butthurt?

Dreamcast Bomberman was extremely cute

>>10171948
Dreamcast was the first console to go online in the west. I had never heard of any other console having online capabilities here in Australia.

>>10171939
>racing games with 2 tracks
What's the problem? Rts and fps games have infinity maps and one map always becomes the most popular and played making the rest obsolete.

>>10169386
> MOH on ps1 didn't utilize second analog stick, still pretty good


MOH does have dual analog, it just isn't the default control scheme

>>10172129
Can someone explain why having a 2nd analog stick is necessary? Using face buttons to move backwards, forwards and strafing works just fine. Sure it isn't analog but it works just fine for fast paced shooters.

Hijacking this thread, has there been any better ways of adding Dreamcast games to a GDemu? Because I remember it being a metric pain in the dick trying to add games alphabetically due to how it added them, and it would sometimes just magically corrupt partway through and require everything to be re-added.

>>10171939
>le arcade experience is shit, so the arcade experience at home is shit by association
You're just bad if you think fighters and shmups are shit experiences
You STILL don't understand how insane it was to have the green goblin stick and MvC2 at home to play infinitely, do you?
And that's just one. Not to mention all the SNK games

>>10168884
N64 did not have a second stick and still has GoldenEye, Turok games, and Perfect Dark. Dreamcast similarly has MDK2, Quake III Arena, and a few other FPS games. It's also kind of silly to mention the GameCube ports since those only came after SEGA went third-party... Like saying the Genesis is bad since you can play a lot of those games on Switch now. If you really don't like Dreamcast though, maybe try Xbox? It has Crazy Taxi 3, Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta, and a few other notable SEGA games that probably would've ended up on the Dreamcast at some point.

>>10169026
>Platform:

shoddy list. only one still worth playing is rayman 2

>>10172886
>N64 did not have a second stick and still has GoldenEye, Turok games, and Perfect Dark

because the C-buttons functioned as a 2nd stick

>>10169026
All this kino and the DC was only alive for 2 years. Holy fuck. Imagine if it could have held out another 2.

>>10172134
Probably because the DC's face buttons weren't made with that in mind.

>>1017432
Which is what every FPS game on dreamcast does, using the face buttons for movement.

>>10174368
What the fuck are you talking about? Have you ever played on a dreamcast pad? Its dpad is fucking horrible to use for extended peroids of time but the face buttons work just fine for FPS movement.

The dreamcast was such a POS fucking disc laser died so fast
With the saturn atleast most of them still work

>>10168884
>>No good FPS games due to its controller having only one analog stick
the dc has a keyboard and mouse, and the dc was the first to console to come with a modem so you could play quake 3 arena (which has more polygons than the pc version lmao) online
>Most of the worthwhile RPGs and platformers were ported to later 6th consoles like Skies of Arcadia or Sonic Adventure.
but the dc versions are superior due to the fact that the dc has an amazing resolution, analog triggers, vmu mini games and supports vga (see pic)
>Surprisingly many awfully gimmicky titles. Imagine buying this console for something as mediocre as Shenmue.
you never played shenmue lmao
>I genuinely don't understand why a console this lackluster is so endlessly praised while it's objectively worse than the GameCube in every single way; an already terrible console. No wonder it sold like garbage.
bc its a good console with good games, and since the only games you know are chu chu rocket and puyo puyo (which are all pretty boring games if you compare them with the other dc games) i think you dont know shit

In a just world SEGA would make the Dreamcast dev kit available online, start selling GD-R packs that people can burn their own games onto, and then put the actual Dreamcast back into production with modifications so it can play burned games and have native HD support and Saturn backwards compat. Make it into an official OEM Homebrew console, using the razor & blade model to make money (sell the console at cost, get all their profits from selling the discs). Then start selling new copies of classic Saturn and Dreamcast games.
You want Blue Ocean Strategy, I'll give you Blue Ocean Strategy.

>>10171781
What did he mean by this entire post?

>>10168884
>Has the best version of CRAZZZY TAAXI
Your existence is invalidated

>>10168884
Games were incredibly easy to pirate, that's why people like the Dreamcast.

>>10169026
>NigBA2k
That series originated on Dreamcast...