/vr/ - Retro Games

Probably because it looks like a huge pile of shit and has a story to match.

>gorgeous graphics
>Quest 64

It is probably the most generic you could be when it comes to an RPG, down to the name of the game. It is incredibly slow paced. And it was also has a very negative history involving its release.

SNES had a huge amount of successful rpgs for it, but Sony snatched up Final Fantasy 7. N64 was lacking in RPGs so Quest 64 was hyped as "the first rpg for the N64". And with the hype behind it, it ended up being incredibly bland especially in comparison to FF7 which was released around the same time.

I loved the SNES rpgs so I remember this all happening in real time. It sucked. I'm still bitter about Quest 64.

>>1016886
Holy Magic Century in most English-speaking countries became Quest 64 in the US.

Darn Americans and their weird-ass names.

>>1016902
>It is probably the most generic you could be when it comes to an RPG

A new challenger appears!

>>1016902
>incredibly bland especially in comparison to FF7

In looks, perhaps, but damned if Quest didn't have a much richer battle system

>>1016890
Yes, gorgeous

>>1016886
You wanna know why this game isn't popular? 3 simple letters THQ. It was the modern day LJN, they fucked everything up the ass. They couldn't even do ports right. I mean fuck, how do you screw up porting the Phantasy Star series to GBA? Well you start by not adding IV to the compilation yet leaving 3 which was the least popular in the series, then you fuck up the sound and let it pass through quality control unnoticed.

THQ is the stamp of death.

If you level up wrong, it becomes impossible

It was rushed and unbalanced for one thing.

Protip to game developers. If you give your player the option to pick between 4 elements, don't make 2 of them useless.

>>1016886
Whats worse than Quest 64? This man reviewing quest 64.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZopx4KgTPM

Gameplay mechanics was golden but an rpg with uninteresting story, uninteresting characters, uninteresting environments (only highland, shamwood and limelin were decent), uninteresting lore (once again only highland, shamwood and limelin were decent) and uninteresting bosses is pretty much the death knell for a game like this.

The soundtrack is catchy but nothing to write home about. The graphics are nice but lacks charm. And the meta-game in terms of combat while complex can easily be overshadowed by the fact that the investment trade off in elements peak's around the mid 30's.

Quest 64 feels like a lost opportunity and honestly needs a spiritual sequel to redeem both the game and it's original concept.

>>1016905
But Blaze & Blade was a lot of fun.

>>1016926
To be fair the GBA couldn't do Genesis sounds like a Genesis.

>>1016961
I liked the boss in which you were on a maze like floor and had to dodge her laser blasts.

I personally think it is far from a terrible game, though it could have been better. I thought it was fairly average to slightly above average. I do like growth mechanics that aren't experience points, levels, and semi-set stat growth, and that it tried something a bit different for battles.

While the story wasn't Earth shattering, I liked the fact that it wasn't so intrusive in which you find yourself playing the game more than either reading or watching the game which I always find as a plus.

>>1016926
I think their Punisher is pretty awesome game

>>1016905
HOLY FUCK, THEY RELEASED THAT ON PS1? SHIT. THE ONLY WAY I PLAYED IT WAS ON PC WHEN I WAS A KID. I HAD NO FUCKING IDEA....

>>1017054
Only Japan and Europe got the game for ps1. I used to play it on pc too, anon.

>>1016962
>Blaze & Blade
>a lot of fun.

I tried to force myself as a child to like this game as much as I could stand because it was an jrpg with an anime cutscene.

>>1016920

I'm pretty sure there wasn't a single fucking puzzle

I remember having this game but I didn't ever own an external memory card, so I would always replay the first couple of hours into it.

>>1016995
To be fair, the Gameboy Advance couldn't really do any sounds well. Whether it be Sword of Mana or Pokemon Emerald, it all sounded muffled and a lot of games had a very faint static sound to them.

But as far as Genesis games go, it shouldn't mattter, the fact is they have game testers and they are supposed to report any issues with the quality of the game in any way. So either the people testing the game were deaf, or didn't care, or they pointed out the terrible tinny sound and reported it but THQ being the crapfest it is decided to ignore it.

Because the name is fucking retarded and the boxart is fucking retarded.

>>1017475
It wasn't so much THQ, as the GBA was used as a platform for TONS of half assed shovelware ports to begin with. Fuck, a lot of NES games weren't even be ported properly to the thing.

I'd love to find a copy of this game someday, actually. I fondly remember renting it on a whim and liking the general aesthetic and the exploring. And the big, sweeping theme that plays as you venture out to the first town was really memorable. I recall staying the night at my friend's house and being woken early in the morning by that very theme as my bud's little brother played the game.

Might've been a shitty RPG, but ah well.

>>1017619
Don't do it. I played through it to put my childhood memories to rest and the game was miserable. Quest 64 only holds up as a mysterious uncompleted 90s rental, and that's the way you should keep it.

It had a few good dungeons, iirc. That fire dungeon, I remember, was hard as fuck to get through.

>>1017505
This

I have a huge amount of nostalgia for this game. i realize it's not great now but i loved it as a kid. i still think the spell system was pretty neat though

Because it's shit.

>>1017640
>uncompleted
Not that guy, but I completed it when i played it. I started a new game afterwards and got stuck at the first boss for some reason.

Hate to be that guy no I don't, but the answer is because it was on the N64.

People turned to the PS1 for their JRPGs.

>>1018584
I think he means the game itself wasn't finished. It was supposed to be a fair bit longer, and have party members (the tomboyish princess no one can shut up about in the first kingdom was supposed to join your party at least)

Oh fuck Quest 64 thread, I just started this game again. Feel like I ought to try using Fire elements this time, as I never used them before, but god they just seem so useless compared to Wind. Is there any decent reason to focus on Fire when all three other elements have better stuff?

>>1016886
because it's not very good
http://youtu.be/I6lzitHLfMM

>>1018680
Oh, I guess that would make more sense. It seemed like he was saying people rented it, thought it was interesting, but didn't finish it which i could see happening. My cousin let me borrow her copy so I never rented it.

>>1018689
>Some random white guy on YouTube said it's bad so it's bad

Aren't you too young to be a /vr/ Trooper?

I felt personally hurt when "the first rpg for the N64" turned into a pile of shit

>>1017475
>To be fair, the Gameboy Advance couldn't really do any sounds well.
Not necessarily.

>>1018717
>I felt personally hurt when "the first rpg for the N64" turned into a pile of shit
The Dreamcast wasn't much better in that regard.

>>1018713
Hey, ProJared is a pretty fuckin decent reviewer.
Also he's been on normalboots and done let's-plays with pbg and jontron, so he's not just some random guy

Also I'm 26.
I hated the game as a kid, but it was easier to post a review someone else made that pretty much touches on why I hated it than explain it for myself

>>1018689
>all that talk about how much you have to grind
when i played it i didn't even understand the concept of grinding and i beat it just find. was i lucky or something

>>1018743
>Also he's been on normalboots and done let's-plays with pbg and jontron, so he's not just some random guy
Is that supposed to reassure me?

>>1018745
>find
i mean fine. fuck

>>1018680
No, >>1018701 is right. Quest 64 held a lot of magic for me as a rental when I was, oh, 12. I played it through recently and it was so bad I felt cheated somehow. I want my childhood mystery game back.

But yeah, the game was also pretty unfinished. I mean, just look at the ending.

>>1018743
>decent reviewer
that's a lot of shitty humor and random interjections for a decent reviewer

Why the hell did Americans call it Quest 64? Nobody else did.

>>1016926
Stop using buzzwords and stop taking your opinions straight from AVGN.

>>1018991
Why is it Lylat Wars instead of Star Fox 64?

>>1019003
>stop taking your opinions straight from AVGN.

Where did he do this?

>>1018743
>Also he's been on normalboots and done let's-plays with pbg and jontron, so he's not just some random guy

>He's done shit with other random guys on some YouTube show so he's got credibility

Get out.

>>1018745
No, everyone else just sucks at video games

>>1016886

>why wasn't this game more popular

BECAUSE IT'S BALLS

I actually returned it to the store after I got it for Chrimbus as a tween.

>>1016926

>>3 simple letters THQ. It was the modern day LJN

This jabroni can't smell what The Rock is cookin'.

>>1016926

>>THQ. It was the modern day LJN

This jabroni can't smell what The Rock is cookin'.

>>1019014
He called LJN bad.

>>1016950
It's a decent review but the sound clips he uses during transitions are too loud and just off the wall bizarre selections.

>>1021845

AVGN didn't come up with this. People have disliked LJN for a long time due to the fact that the vast majority of the games they published were crap. You do know that right? Some of us are still feeling the sting from buying/playing games like Arcade's Revenge. You might as well claim that people only like classic Capcom because of Egoraptor.

It's stupid and retarded to think that because people may share opinions on something that they could not form it on their own. Of course, this is assuming AVGN even dislikes LJN. I wouldn't know because I've never watched his videos.

>>1021830
>Posting an AKI wrestling game
That's like claiming Capcom developed GTA Vice City because they did the Japanese translation...

The battle system was indeed pretty good.

Hilariously unbalanced difficulty curve combined with ass-slow movement, high random encounter rate, and inexplicable leveling on the other hand, aren't.

>>1016926
>and let it pass through quality control unnoticed.

as someone who works in vidya quality control I can guarantee you that everyone on that QA team noticed.

>Why wasn't this game more popular?
Because OP, it was fucking terrible.

yeah this game has too many random encounters. i remember ragequitting during one of the dungeon-areas because every 5 or so steps there's a battle. its just so tedious

>>1022324

Hey, it says THQ right on the cover. LJN was a video game publishing company, they never developed any games in-house. If they think that THQ is the modern day LJN, then that should mean that the games they license are bad ones.

All four of the AKI/THQ wrestling games on the N64 were good.

>>1018814
Smoke half a gram of hash before re-visiting childhood mystery games. It reveals the true beauty of otherwise shitty games, comparable to the ignorance of an oblivious, impressionable 90's kid