/vr/ - Retro Games

So that Clover could make a joke about it in God Hand.

I've never played any Resident Evil, but I have RE HD remaster, 0 and 6 in my Steam library. Is it worth starting the series with the first, or does it really matter?

>>10162418
It matters. RE is really only 0, 1, 2, 3, CV/X, and Outbreak 1 and 2 as far as classic true RE is concerned.

>>10162450
Start with 1 or 0?

Why did Capcom say RE2 as only for the N64?

>>10162470
0 is a weird and pretty bad prequel.

>>10162394
Because the company made an agreement with Nintendo specifically?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capcom_Five

>>10162394
Nintendo needed to sell some gamecubes

>tfw VJ,RE4,K7 were all ported to the ps2 like a year later
Cucked again

>>10162418
Play remake
Then 2 on an psx emulator
Then 3
Then 4
Then RE2make
Then 7
Delete 6

>>10162563
RE0 is only worth looking into if you're a fan of the traditional style

>>10162563
Also don't play the PS2 or non-HD version of RE4 Emulating GCN or Wii version or HD on PC is best. If you're autistic, there are mods for RE4HD on PC to remove the minor differences between it and earlier versions.

>>10162582
*non-HD on PC version

>>10162394
My theory is that they wanted it on much more powerful hardware.

They saw what Nintendo could do with the Nintendo 64 port of resident Evil 2. In fact, the biggest limitation on that port was the storage capacity of the cartridges. they had to make the cutscenes far lower quality to fit it. but everything else was fit onto a single cartridge with extra content. incredibly impressive.

and the GameCube outperformed the PlayStation 2 in terms of graphics.

But, having the best looking games for your flagship doesn't mean diddly dick when sales underperforms. and especially since the PlayStation 2 was the greatest selling console of all time, It basically destroyed that exclusivity.

So whatever it actually was, it couldn't topple sales numbers. And this was super important because Capcom just got out of their first low point in the RE series.

>>10162418
6 is the only good game you own so play it first
don't listen to this redditor >>10162450 he's just a poser parroting whatever he hears on ''gaymers'' circlejerks that's why he has the audacity to recommend 7 (the shitty western walking simulator and least RE-ish game in the series) to you

>>10162470
1 because 0 is a prequel that shows you things you aren't supposed to know yet. Not like it's massive or anything but it was clearly meant to be played after all the other games prior to 4.

>>10163174
>>10162394
because the fiscal year that Resident Evil 4 was released was Capcom's worst year. the only way at the time to make a profit was to release the game on PS2.

>>10163174
Honestly Devil May Cry looks better than RE4. ironic considering it's originally RE4.

>>10162418
I don't recommend playing 0 until you have familiarity with the series, this is a release order kinda thing and 0's a bit.. weird and a little more on the awkward/hardcore side of things. HD Remaster is totally fine for a first game though.

>>10163174
I disagree, I think part of their strategy was trying out RE online games with Outbreak and in their mind set they couldn't do both online and single player on the same console as one title could draw attention away from the other. So the gamecube got single player RE's and the PS2 got the experimental Outbreak games. Obviously it didn't work out and RE4 was ported to PS2 but I think that was part of the method of their madness. Also stop the plebbit spacing faggot.

>>10163239
I've beat RE1-5 and Code Veronica X. Haven't beat Remake (too scary) can I still go for RE0?

>>10162394
because Mikami got a big fat check signed Mr Nintendo

>>10162394
they signed a deal in 2001 until 2005

>>10164032
>sign a deal until 2005
>delay RE4
>release it in Jan 2005

>>10162394
because they made a deal with nintendo that they renegged on to save their own asses since literally no one bought a gamecube, lol

>>10163174
PS2 may have been limited in some ways but iirc it was a bandwith monster capable of very high poly characters for its time.
I dont know the system limitations apart from aliasing, maybe RE4 wasnt an ideal fit for PS2 capabilities.

>>10162563
Absolutely the worst advice.
Play 1, 2 and 3 on PC with REbirth unless you happen to have a Win95 machine around that can run them. Then just stop there because everything else is just bad, except outbreak but that's only good if you have friends and considering you are on /vr/ you don't.

CV and CVX, Dead Aim, 0, REmake, 4 and up are all just bad CV and 0 give you the illusion of a RE game but they play more like one of the 200 clones than a proper RE game. REmake is just inferior to the original in many ways, and again doesn't play like Resident Evil, 4 and up might as well not even be considered RE games.

>>10162394
capcom never did. Shinji Mikami did, hilariously, and Capcom slapped him in the face and ported the game wherever they wanted.

>>10164289
PC version of 1 is shit. Stop giving terrible advice just because you still have some chip on your shoulder you haven’t eaten yet, you tubby fuck

>>10163174
>but everything else was fit onto a single cartridge with extra content.
it didnt even included extreme battle which is the best thing about RE2.

>>10162394
Seemed like Nintendo and Capcom thought RE4 was going to be a big system seller. Maybe it would have been in 2001/2002, I don't know. But it fell into dev hell and they had to spin their wheels with a remake of a 5 year old Playstation game and a reboot of a scrapped N64 project that no one cared about. It was too little, too late by the time 4 finally released in 2005.

>>10162394

Because shinji Mikami threatened to cut off his own head ie walk from capcom if it released on other consoles

>>10164572
>more stuff
>faster
>uncensored
>best graphics
And there is no downsides, the PC ports of 1 and 2 are the best way to play them, 3 on the other hand does have actual issues and downsides, which is why the gamecube version is the popular choice. That said the downsides are you can't get cheats and you miss out on the special ending slides.

>>10162394
Shinji Mikami hated PS2 due to how hard it was to develop so he went to Nintendo.

RE4 could have been XBOX exclusive but Microsoft fucked up during a meeting with Mikami.

>>10162418
RE6 is a pretty solid third person shooter on it's own but most people here will say otherwise because it has "resident evil" in it's name.

>Is it worth starting the series with the first, or does it really matter?
depends on what kind of game you prefer honestly.

not counting the remakes the series takes a more action focus from 4 onward while the first 5 games (0,1,2,3 & CV) are basically adventure games and 7 & 8 are effectively rehashes of 1 & 4 respective styles but in first person.

>>10162394
it was exclusive for a while,code veronica was the same it was exclusive for dreamcast,zero was exclusive to nintendo along 4 and remake for a while until it got ported to the wii,after that came the 4 release on ps2 but was lower quality so less sales,0 couldn't be ported to ps,remake had the same issue it couldn't be ported to existing consoles without lowering the quality A LOT!! so they waited until ps4 release to make the port that was 1:1 to the gamecube.

>>10164149
just take into account the ps2 version was half the quality of gamecube version,capcom had to wait until ps4 release to make a 1:1 release of the remake and 0 (along 4 ultimate edition)
knowing that compression is really high on gamecubeyou get why the size increased a lot (specially taking into account the remake of 2 is just 20 GB)

>>10166321
the game became a TPS on 4,even the remakes suffer from that.
>start 3 remake
>suddenly nemesis shows up
>no build up and even the zako zombie takes more bullets to kill then bullets needed to stop nemesis.
and let's see the original
>start playing
>a bit of story
>build up while learning the paths and streets
>suddenly brad shows up teeling you to run "that thing is after stars members" and go away
>suddenly you don't know what is that thing yet it builds horror
>nemesis shows up the first time you almost pee your pants.
>is harder to kill then any zombie.
is not the same experience,only zoomers will say "is still a horror game" about the remakes or modern games.
modern biohazard games aren't even the same and most focused on shooting enemies and leaving scarce resources at hand while limiting what you can carry around with slot limits.
Only reason most people like certain games is because they have sexy sluts and low camera angles (fine by me and i love those games) but as BH games they aren't as solid or good as the originals.

>>10168385
>after that came the 4 release on ps2 but was lower quality so less sales
What did he mean by this?

>>10162563
>skipping RE5
friendless faggot

>>10162487
it has a couple exclusive features like the Files, easier control scheme, and the randomizer

otherwise, idk

>>10162558
They all look like shit on the PS2 though.

>>10162418
Play the original 2. It’s by far the easiest and best fixed camera entry for new players.

>>10164289
It shocks me that you Snoy fags still hold a grudge for shit that happened 20 years ago. It was never a first party game you fucking faggot, get over it.

>>10168468
You're posting on /vr/ no one has friends here

>>10168459
Compared to the install bases it definitely wasn't the run away hit on PS2 that it was on GC though. You've got to remember that every single Chink and Nigger had a fucking PS2 to watch DVDs on.

>>10168609

>>10168626
That wasn't what I was trying to post but what fucking ever

>>10165802
>RE4 could have been XBOX exclusive but Microsoft fucked up during a meeting with Mikami.
That would've been something.

>>10168652
Not really.

>>10168652
Just imagine how many polygons they could have used for Ashley's ass and titties?

>>10168652
It's an interesting what if situation, that's for sure. I think it all worked out for the best and it makes for an interesting story. It would of sold even less in Japan though and I think we would of ended up in the same place anyway.

>>10168459
If we are comparing systems the PS2 copy sold pretty shit while the Gamecube copy was one of the best selling games for the system, not that many people had a gamecube, everyone had a PS2.
That said there are many people who have never even touched the Gamecube version.

>>10162394
Because Mikami threatened to cut off his own head if it wasn't. He didn't deliver

>>10169072
> He didn't deliver

The exclusivity deal was fullfilled though. They signed a deal for 5 games, and they released

>REmake
>0
>4
at that point they were probably tired of every game performing poorly because nobody had a fucking NGC so they ported 2 and 3 to make that a count of 5 and be done with the deal. Thus they were free and porting RE4 to PS2 was not a breach.

It's just like the "exclusivity" deals in gen7 that lasted mere months. Capcom was ahead of the pack regarding shitty business practices.

>>10168459
Every time RE4 gets a port, something new is broken

GC –> Wii — Lower polygon count inventory items from PS2 port

Wii –> 360 — Broken and missing effects, bad mapping conversion for ALL the models of the game, missing sound reverb effect.

360 –> UHD — Animation and sound issues, black pickup screen, bad optimization with lots of performance issues in some computers

The PS4 version is just copy-paste of the “HD textures option” from PC Ultimate HD. Only a few extra character textures were improved for PS4/Xone.

Also some enemies behavior issues if I’m not mistaken. But I’m not sure in which port…

Still aside of resolution the GC/Wii are the best versions. It has the best color palette and lightning and have bloom to the fire effects.

Resident Evil 4 HD Project removes terrible looking PS2 version assets.

https://www.re4hd.com/?p=5281

>WEAPONS and other item MODELS: The models used for all post-Gamecube versions have less polygons than the original Gamecube version. It seems they kept (perhaps by accident?) the low-poly versions from the PS2 port of the game. I restored and even improved all of these models. There is a limitation with these models that crashes the game if the file size of certain files are larger than the original, but I found that there is some dispensable data that can be removed from the .bin files (the 3D models), and even entire .bin files that are unused in-game

>>10169232
didn't the switch from 30 to 60 FPS in some versions also mess with the damage value of some weapons, like the knife dealing double damage?

>>10162394
capcom also promised code veronica to be dreamcast exclusive

>>10169147
Remake and 0 weren't part of the Capcom 5 in the first place. It was Viewtiful Joe, Killer7, P.N. 03, RE4, and a cancelled game called Dead Phoenix.

>>10169709
>this completely unrelated thing is unrelated

You don't say??!!

>>10168619
>Compared to the install bases it definitely wasn't the run away hit on PS2 that it was on GC though

this is literally every single ps2 game that wasn't GTA san andreas.
even GT4 had less than 10% of the install base

Rebecca is a timeless beauty

>>10162418
the HD remaster (it's actually a remaster of a remake... go figure) is one of the best in the series and still palatable by 'modern' standards imho, some people recommend emulating the GC version but do whatever you feel comfortable

>>10165770
3 on pc crashed on me a couple of times during my playthrough, is that what you mean? Or is their other issues I didn't notice?

>>10168419
the anon was just asking if it what game to start with and i simply told him the differences between the older games vs the newer ones.

Mikami hated what Sony did to the PlayStation 2 and swore off the platform for much of the generation. But I guess someone at the top told him "enough is enough", so he ended up directing God Hand for the console anyway.

>>10168459
>vgchartz
lol!
lmao!!

>>10169394
It was, the one they ported was Code Veronica X.

>>10170131
It's from Capcom themselves.
https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

>>10169936
Because Snoys don't play games, never have and never will.

>>10170131
Anon? Stop it!