/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263/#9611406

=== FINISH LINE ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9941667/#q9941720

FORE/VR/ ALONE (Submissions closed)
Link to BETA3: https://files.catbox.moe/u9smv4.zip

=== NEWS ===
[8-10] Quake II Kex-based remaster released
https://bethesda.net/en/article/6NIyBxapXOurTKtF4aPiF4/enhancing-quake-ii

[8-10] Quake II 25th Aniversary Collaborative Unit - v1.0 released
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/Quake225ACU.zip

[8-10] Q-Type DM (Q1 Themed DM Pack for Doom 2)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/139030

[8-10] Deathmatch Dimension added to officially curated Q1 mods
https://mods.silver.quakeapi.com/dmd.pak

[8-10] BTSX E3 demo released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104557

[8-10] Titan 1.0 released (Doom 2016 weapons)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXjNuFytqYI

[8-09] Tribute Quilt released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/s-u/tributequilt

[8-08] The Rotting Jam for Quake is out
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/rotting-jam.254/

[8-08] Doom RL Arsenal Extended 1.1 released, with new classes and unlockables.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1243536#p1243536

[8-02] Peril, Quake mod based on Arcane Dimensions, releases after 3 years in development
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/peril3-0.253/

[8-02] DBP60: Eldritch Voyage is out now
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3301/eldritch-voyage

[7-31] Rise of the Triad: Ludicrous Edition released
https://youtu.be/3A8X2tqQuGY

[7-22] Voxel Doom II release trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQK8m41daAk

[7-20] Episode 2 demo of Doom Refired out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128420


=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
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>>10144370
>Quake 2 not the OP image

>>10144378
It's an embarrassment to the quake franchise

>>10144379

>>10144387
It's true.

>>10144390

>>10144379
What's the worst Quake? 2, 4 or Enemy Territory?

>>10144379
>spending this much energy hating on a video game
true socio-/psychopath hours

>>10144392
based

>>10144403

>>10144396
1

I don't think any of the Quake games are bad. I have always enjoyed Quake 2, just not as much as Quake 1. Quake 3 speaks for itself as a multiplayer shooter, and Quake 4 was a fun sci-fi romp. Enemy Territroy was a Battlefield clone and probably the best one ever.

>>10144412
double based

>>10144329
I think the idea of Episode 3 is that you are going through multiple dimensions after entering that big portal at the end of E2. You're not on the planet Saturn X anymore.

give doomgut railgun
give rager plagmasun
give dukem wang nukem
give sam firebomb
give biterman airsfrafe
give the hunt painkiller
give caleb excalibat
give blowjohn blastkovich BFG

>>10144428
give ME the gep gun

>>>/pol/437558019

>Doom is just poor man's Quake. Doomtards are fucking clueless when it comes to 90s shooters.

how do you respond, doombros?

>>10144436
Quake is a poor man's Serious Sam

>>10144438
you've done him

>>10144371
94 Protons Of /vr/ : Weapons Demo
One file is how the native DeHacked weapons are like, another is the weapons with added effects and truecolor graphics in the GzDoom patch. All weapons function like the vanilla Doom weapons and this is all cosmetic.
Primarily, this demo is intended as a show of work, the rest isn't done yet, but I'm getting there.

MBF21:
https://mega.nz/file/KsRBVQqb#OWKOPaYk0Fu_lEgM3Gj33hwYDg-UvvKHFRAGch7w9p8

GzDoom:
https://mega.nz/file/yhB3VbCZ#kVHUVWRF_DlLGzIGU9K0f1VVs-iale-LacYFXu-HQgU

Notes:
>Weapons basically complete, barring some minor pending tweaks.
>Pump frames for shotgun redrawn, now actually looks like an Ithaca 37
>Aliens style pulse rifle for plasma shitcanned, hated it more and more and eventually decided I'd just try making what I originally wanted instead, and surprisingly I not only could, but really quickly and easily (kept the star muzzleflashes though)
>Cannot thank Baikalanon enough for taking pictures of his Baikal double barreled shotgun so I could put hammers on the SSG, "Cannon" is kind of just a placeholder name, and a boring one, open to other name suggestions
>Fists have separate sounds for normal punching and for Berserk punching, regrettably this is something which cannot be replicated on the MBF21 side at all, so the punching just sounds a bit too intense there if you don't have Berserk
>Spark effects for explosions and bullet puffs in the GzDoom version might be a bit much
>BFG projectile will probably be tweaked slightly more on MBF21 side, but it's basically final

Input on weapons welcome.

>>10144436
Who gives a fuck about what some faggot on a faggot board says? Take a hike.

>>10144438
I kneel...
>>10144443
Fucking finally dude.

What's the best way to play SW these days?
Last time I tried redux version it had some shitty mouse filtering that I just couldn't get used to.
Are source ports any good?

>>10144467
BuildGDX

I've turned brit/pol/ into the /pol/ doom / quake general

>>10144467
i think i used VoidSW
no complaints except that audio was UNFUCKINGBEARABLE when underwater/in any room that echoed, to the point i just unplugged my headphones and savescummed the submarine level to hell and back
but that could be an issue with the game itself, or how old games deal with modern sound drivers/dynamic ranges. gzdoom can stutter hard cause of that, so maybe build ports are similar.

>>10144412
I like Quake II. I only wanted to get an idea of why the other anon hates it so much.

>>10144371
fuck
>>10143090

>>10144509
>probably chaingun shotgun game
are there any games/wads out there with a gatling shotgun?

>>10144514
doom 2

>>10144509
>Weapons, yeah?
>Shotgun remaster!
>BIG FIRE THING
>"Damage player"-weapon

>>10144514
Team Fortress Classic has the "Assault Cannon"

>>10144509
>play Quake
>shoot gun
>top trash
>exactly bros

>>10144514
SWWMGZ

>>10144514
sam 2 (not tse) has that weird thing, though it's semi iirc

>q1 looks kill
BTFO by Q2 remaster.

>>10144509
>re-release immediately

Playing thru the remaster of Quake II 64. The trap got me good, I freaked out trying to find some cover (which the AI still managed to get screwed over by, take that programmers) but probably would have died if the enemies hadnt wasted time trying to land a 2% chance and just moved closer.

It feels like in general the Q2 64 AI along with map design is much stronger at pushing forward and/or holding dangerous positions. Pretty good stuff.

>Kex Q2 can't load any classic Q2 maps without fucking up the water shader
>Kex Q2 will steadfastly ignore the concept of an additional gamex86.dll, even if renamed to game_x64.dll like the new one
It's over.

>>10144492
By any chance, are you on windows?

Now my map is taking half an hour to compile as well. It's not even that big or complex, what le heck. This combined with how tired I have been lately has slowed down progress considerably.

>>10144540
>gamex86.dll, even if renamed to game_x64.dll
duh, it's not "renamed", it's compiled for a different platform.
>fucking up the water shader
probably due to lit water, check if there's a cvar to disable it

hey, remember when based lighting anon ported lit water to QS and then a couple months later every QS fork also had lit water, after literal decades of indecision? now it's in an official port, good job lad.

>>10144568
>duh, it's not "renamed", it's compiled for a different platform.
I would expect it to throw a fault if it were actually trying to run it. As is, it doesn't even try.

>>10144514
Dwell

What's your honest opinion on Nightdive Studios?
Are they doing a good job preserving old PC games or doing a piss poor job at it?

>>10144509
>release gog
magog hands wrote this, the end times are upon us.

>>10144568
>probably due to lit water, check if there's a cvar to disable it
Not that I can see, the only r_ commands I can see for water are all to do with the underwater effect. Happens on both Vulkan and D3D11, so it won't be a renderer-specific one.

>>10144591
Shock 1 enhanced was pretty good, wouldn't have minded other pre-WASD games to get similar treatment (Underworld, Terra Nova, maybe something like Crusader even).
Blade Runner was a fucking fiasco and the opposite of preservation. as for other games that already run fine as is, I could give a shit. they can get their paycheck and the two consolefags with a PC fetish will be happy.

>>10144591
They're one of the few devs who actually seem like they have passion for what they do so I like them

>>10144509

>>10144591
they're doing their best and seem to be doing it for the right reasons (love for the games)
I'm hoping they remake doom in the kex engine and make it compatible with wads and pk3s but without the engine issues that cause major fps drops with high sprite counts and stuff. that will be an absolute gamechanger for doom modding

>>10144614
Saved

>>10144605
>Blade Runner was a fucking fiasco and the opposite of preservation
Honestly it's not entirely their fault, since the Source Code of Blade Runners were lost in time. So they had to use alternative to rebuilt the assets from scratch.

>>10144613
>>10144617
Yeah and it's shows.
The reason why the company even exist is because the Nightdive founder wanted to play System Shock 2 on his PC.

Quake 2 is just another irrefutable proof that brightmaps is by the best thing that could happen with retro games graphics.
It's the only graphical improvement that can be applied to these games that is consistently increases the sovl by the orders of magnitude while never ruining the original aesthetics and the overall feel of the game.

>>10144628
agreed
they really add to the atmosphere

>>10144591
Great company, and even if one doesn't like their work, it's hard to argue that there's any better alternative, even when they make mistakes they genuinely do their best to fix them, like course correcting the System Shock remake, and they're even updating Blood Fresh Supply soon

I want them to remaster more later stuff, like RTCW

>>10144630
what stuff are you using here

>>10144624
>were lost in time

>>10144639
loads mate
base mod is beautiful doom
tweaked and paired up with a bunch of other mods to ramp up the atmosphere while making it a bit more modern but keeping the retro elements
can upload my setup somewhere and post a link if you'd like

>>10144643
also reshade

>>10144379
You are an embarrasment to the quake franchise.

>>10144643
>>10144630

>>10144651
why seethe?

>be me
>love doom
>love editing doom
>love making enemies and weapons for doom
>fucking suck at making levels
>never good enough at level design to make a wad
>have piles of stuff im never gonna use
>mfw

>>10144573
KQ2 will be looking for something specific in the DLL before trying to load it. The rerelease source (https://github.com/id-Software/quake2-rerelease-dll)) makes it clear it expects the capability for mods with game DLLs.
At least we still have the source for Zaero 1.1 so that could be converted over.

>>10144591
How long until they also get "mired" in "controversy"?
Some of the folks they interact with are some rather unsavoury fellows even though their immediate outwards aoppearances would indicate otherwise.
I hope Paril will not be affected.

>>10144657
Nah I actually don't mind I'm not a purist. I just like posting the frog.

>>10144664
nothing wrong with purists, each to their own :D
I just love atmosphere more than anything

>>10144591
>What's your honest opinion on Nightdive Studios?
They're alright. I'll note that it would've been better if their recent re-releases were more "potato setup friendly" as I believe latest versions of Kex prioritize primarily Vulkan. Quake's re-release worked overall well on my old laptop, but I can imagine that others weren't as lucky. DOOM 64's re-release is great. Blood's could be better, but I think it was servicable for the first time.
Worth mentioning that they seemingly have an issue with taking on too many projects which resulted in them putting SiN's re-release to the side. The absense of System Shock 2's re-release does make sense for similar reason, but you can argue that it being a pre-order bonus for original's reboot means that it should be the top priority.
Not as familiar with their negative side, except for the Blade Runner shenanigans. Also the 50HP thing in Quake's Nightmare probably should be optional.

We need more funny quake 2 images. I have a severely lacking amount of them

>>10144540
Mods will need rebuilt

>>10144591
They're the best studio out there for touching up classics. Only mega hyper spergs have weird hate for them.

Shadowman is the single greatest remaster there's ever been in the game space.

>>10144683

>>10144370
Perfect Dark PC port is looking pretty good
https://files.catbox.moe/0xc28x.7z
Linuxfags can build from src @ https://github.com/fgsfdsfgs/perfect_dark

>>10144443
The base shotgun looks so plain compared to everything else now. Why not just use something like pic related, I think it fits the aesthetic of the weapons way more? The source on that is https://github.com/wildweasel486/ww-doomnukem
The plasma gun's muzzle flash is gigantic and honestly pretty distracting.
The BFG's charge sound is awkward. It feels like it's getting cut off near the end, but the sound of the blast is so unimposing.
Are you accepting map fixes?

You know, after playing the remaster a bit

I've realized how much of the fun of these old shooters for me is just going through these cool brush-based environments, and how much adding new lighting and stuff really adds to that

It makes me really want a Thief 1/2 remaster, if they could do that and give us a new expansion/campaign for each I'd be over the moon, as well as a remaster for Ultima Underworld since they already have most of the source code (System Shock 1 runs on an updated engine), doing that and giving Underworld 1/2 a new editor would be amazing, and then update Thief/SS2 so their maps can be made in TrenchBroom. Imagine

>>10144707
code execution cannot proceed because
libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll was not found.

>>10144715
thx, try this one. https://files.catbox.moe/2q28p7.7z

>>10144715
Somebody forgot to compile it -static
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4702732/the-program-cant-start-because-libgcc-s-dw2-1-dll-is-missing

>>10144720
That's certainly some very interesting audio emulation.

>>10144707
fgsdsds is working on it? That guy's a fucking legend. He's ported everything to the Switch. I'm a Nintendo fanboy I play everything on my switch cus of him.

Quake 1/2/3, Serious Sam 1,2, Unreal, Doom 1/2/Heretic/Hexen. And he even did Doom 64 and Doom 3 before they got official ports. And I think even though others ported Half life and Duke Nukem 3D he jumped in and fixed them up to way better standards.

If he's working on Perfect Dark that's good shit. I hope he brings it to Switch :3

>>10144720
This is incredible, I didn't even know this was coming along, I heard about the decomp finishing and then nothing

Banjo decomp been sitting at about 98% completion for like, a year

dear LORD the levels in return of the triad TC are long
also why the fuck do low guards clip off 3 health bars with a single shot regardless of character
actually does character even matter for damage mitigation vs. enemies? comparing thi to doug it seems like he just takes less damage from traps but not bullets.

>>10144707
>>10144720
>it's real
no way
it still needs a lot of work (i just crashed in the first mission while grabbing cassandra's necklace) but it's incredible to see it working at all

Some footage for the anons, it's on par with Jabo from 2005 but running x86 naively. For the PD build system this is *very* impressive
>>10144723
Just ran the makefile instructions. Hopefully another anon can build this without the dlls :^)
>>10144732
Yep, can't wait to see it given the SM64PC treatment.

>>10144743
Seems to be pretty system-dependent, when I run that build all I get is nastily warped audio and a repeating intro cutscene.

>>10144713
The pistol and fists are also pretty plain. It's a plain gun to look at I guess, but that makes the Super Shotgun look yet more distinct in comparison.
I don't particularly like the idea of dropping that shotgun in, particularly with it having been in a thousand Brutal Doom mods and derivatives already. I don't find the plasma that distracting myself.

>The BFG's charge sound is awkward. It feels like it's getting cut off near the end, but the sound of the blast is so unimposing.
Do you mean the shooting sound or the impact sound? The impact sound is maybe a bit understated, that can be punched up a little. The charge sound would be interrupted by the shooting sound, so it kind of would be getting cut off.

>Are you accepting map fixes?
What kind of fix? I may very well have already fixed whatever it is, I've done a lot of that kind of stuff.

>>10144591
i am upset at the bad changes to games they have made, like messing with movement and making nightmare a joke in Q1, and allegedly nerfing fodder enemies in Q2 while drastically altering projectile origination of the player's weapons without any means of reverting those changes
doom 64 and RoTT felt right though (at least you have the option to make RoTT right by reverting balance changes in the menu) and the bonus content in those two was fun
really just don't ruin the core moving and shooting of my games or make them babby mode bullshit and i don't have a problem with you lot, i don't get why that's so hard

>>10144743
I don't see how this will work without a complete overhaul of the enemy ai.

They're simply not built for aiming like this.

>>10144778
Railgun damage in single player is 100 now instead of 250 :)

>>10144783
that's bullshit but i believe it

>>10144786

>>10144795
brb gonna install just to uninstall

>>10144795
The railgun did 150 not 250 damage, what are these people smoking. And this is a bad decision, especially if you're improving the enemy ai.

>>10144591
I like 'em okay. The only remaster they did that was shit was Blade Runner but that mostly just comes down to the game being a poor fit for that Kex engine since it's a pre-rendered adventure game rather than an FPS or 3D game, and AI upscaling's the only thing they could do since the pre-rendered source assets are long-gone. At-least they re-released the OG version in a nice package with ScummVM and that's all anyone really wanted to start with.

>>10144808
it kinda reminds me of d3bfg having both lowered enemy count and more ammo pickups
like 2 choices that contradict each other which might be a result of too many cooks

>>10144808
Yeah this is weird, the railgun in Q2 is one of my favorite weapons in any game, and it's very reliable, why buff the enemies and take away our tools? And like the issue with weapons centerfiring instead of firing from the model, why not give us an option? And for that matter, why not give us an option with the enemy AI as well?

>>10144817
They're clearly trying to address a common complaint of Quake II's campaign (too easy) but they went overboard with the weapon nerfing. I welcome the enemy behavior tweaks though.

>>10144743
Whoever made this webm knows Perfect Dark supports 16:9 widescreen right?

>>10144820
The game feels a bit odd now, I'm playing through The Reckoning (first time) on hard and it's nice that everything is a challenge but also like, really overwhelming and I'm constantly depending on my machinegun, so many problems are still there, shotgun doesn't do enough hitstun to make it dependable, grenades have weird physics and small range, as well as a small explosion radius, now the railgun is nerfed, and chaingun still chomps ammunition like a hungry hungry hippo, it's not just that the game was easy but just that things weren't incredibly designed

>>10144826
PC build is currently locked to 4:3 output

>>10144720
Flags my antivirus for some reason. Anyone know if it's safe?

alright uninstalled
HOW do you fuck up this bad
weapons feeling good and being effective isn't why Q2 is too easy, it's because the enemies are retarded and most of them do chip damage
this has to be a piss take, NOBODY would earnestly consider nerfing any weapon in Q2 and pat themselves on the back for it

>>10144831
Ahhhh, just now realized that was playing through the native port rather than 1964 GEPD like I'm used to. Very cool but I'd probably rather wait til it gets finished.

>>10144828
Yeah one of the things Quake II always did right was its guns and they should've been left alone imo, hopefully they patch in an option to toggle between the tweaked and OG weapon balancing.

>>10144836
It's very good to see this progress, and I can only dream that by xmas we'll all have PD with online support. A man can dream...
>>10144832
If you got Linux just run the build instructions here https://github.com/fgsfdsfgs/perfect_dark
Otherwise just trust me bro

>>10144838
this shouldn't even be a toggle
it should just be reverted
there is no case where this is a good change

>>10144820
>GZ-style guard buffs
>enforcer buffs
>zerker buffs
>gunner minor buffs
>brains buffed
>gladiator slightly buffed (can’t as easily be danced to retard death)
>parasite changed
It’s been a slew mostly fun changes so far. Centered weapon shooting is weird because it only applies to some of the weapons and feels like an oversight: The blaster, hyperblaster, railgun, and rocket launcher all shoot as they should.
Not too sure how I feel about the railgun nerf.

>>10144378
Please don't post M*on in these threads.

>>10144840
It will be patched back seeing that people wants it.
in any case, i see zaero being the next on the block for addons since the source code is up

>>10144774
The pistol isn't particularly extravagant, but it still has plenty of detail on it. The fists alternating when holding down the fire button is a neat detail.
The shotgun's idle frame just looks like a plain cone. Even 2048's shotgun would be preferable, I'd say.
>Do you mean the shooting sound or the impact sound?
The shooting sound. It feels wimpy.
>What kind of fix?
I noticed a missing texture on Acid Vats, but I also came up with a better mechanic for killing the masterminds and kind of want to just redesign that final room.

>>10144850
It's not an oversight, they kept all the projectile weapons (except the railgun ig) as model-fired, because otherwise it would just look weird
>>10144850
But yeah, a lot of buffs and quicker weapon switching, (which is good), but then nerfed railgun, pls no

>>10144689
>They're the best studio out there for touching up classics.
To be fair, I believe that Digital Eclipse are also pretty good.
>>10144814
>The only remaster they did that was shit was Blade Runner but that mostly just comes down to the game being a poor fit for that Kex engine
Also MVG (who worked with Nightdive at the time) admitted to screwing up there.
https://youtu.be/XeptHFxhR6c?t=87

>At-least they re-released the OG version in a nice package with ScummVM and that's all anyone really wanted to start with.
I believe there was actually some outcry about it, but can't recall the specifc.

>>10144838
>>10144840
Contact Nightdive on Twitter. More feedback on weapon nerfs the better.

>>10144795
>railgun ruins FPS multiplayer forever
>nerf it in SP
Uhhh what's the logic here

>>10144862
>I believe there was actually some outcry about it, but can't recall the specifc.
scummvm version was available for a couple of years and got nuked with the ""enhanced"" version's release.
after the outcry they added the scummvm version back as a bonus to the new re-release, but the original gog page is gone forever, and you can't buy it without supporting the new abomination.

>>10144860
>they kept all the projectile weapons (except the railgun ig) as model-fired
The grenade launcher doesn’t which is why I didn’t mention it, and I’d prefer it if I could have the hitscans originate from the viewmodel area as well.
I also wouldn’t mind if they went full KMQ2 and let us customize weapon values straight through cvars.

>>10144862
MVG seems like a nice, smart guy, though I hear he's working for LRG these days and while I like Nightdive and Digital Eclipse's work LRG seems to me like a shitty pozzed company that's going to accelerate the death of physical media more than anything.

>>10144826
How anyone can play games designed around 4:3 in 16:9 is beyond me. There’s so much wasted space it looks ridiculous

>>10144873
MVG was REALLY helpful with the n64 stuff for doom and the console ports, guy is a retro tech library.
I still with EA could reach Nightdive with Wing Commander.

They really made the new heads with retex in mind
https://imgur.com/a/Nlt0ptN
it fits perfectly, even the lips, and it gives that alien look

>>10144878
He's a homebrew/warez scene veteran so that doesn't surprise me. Definitely a good asset to have for those types of projects.

NEW QUAKE II PATCH NOTES 8/11/2023

>Reduced Enforcer bullet damage from 3 to 1-2, to counterbalance their new behaviors.
>Fixed a bug where the Super Shotgun could occasionally hit all pellets against the same target.
>Added randomized pitch to Iron Maiden moans.
>Further reduced Railgun damage from 100 to 80 to better balance it for deathmatch.
>Added an option to make directional damage indicators rainbow colored instead of white.
>Fixed a bug where Shotgunners dealt damage.
>Reduced Brains' movespeed by 20%.
>Reworked internal air control logic to prevent players from mitigating the knockback from the Berzerker's slam attack too easily.
>Reduced bullet ammo restored on pickup by 25% to offset quicker Chaingun rev speed and lack of Machinegun recoil.
>Compass now directs the player toward secrets they haven't yet found through alternate, yellow markers.
>Fixed a bug where Railgun could penetrate through multiple enemies.
>Turrets now have a distinct idle sound and can be destroyed in one hit from any weapon before fully activating.
>Beta Class Gladiators can now rocket jump.
>Tank Commanders now have 50% damage resistance to non-explosive weapons.
>Fixed a bug where enemies on Nightmare wouldn't be affected by hitstuns.

>>10144893
>>Further reduced Railgun damage from 100 to 80 to better balance it for deathmatch.

>>10144893
>>Beta Class Gladiators can now rocket jump.
FFFFFFFFFFFFUCK

>>10144893
>>Fixed a bug where Railgun could penetrate through multiple enemies.
Wait what!? That's not a bug is it!? Isn't that the way the railgun worked in the original game!? What the fuck is going-on at Nightdive!!!??

>>10144907
plz tell me I'm just feeling the mandela effect and that the railgun didn't do that originally

sounds like some apex legends level rebalancing

>>10144893
>>Fixed a bug where Railgun could penetrate through multiple enemies
Nevermind, I am never touching this shit.

>>10144893
Source?

>>10144591
My biggest problem with Nightdive is that they inevitably always change something and they don't give you a option to change it back. If these guys actually cared about preserving these titles, they should atleast have some sort of menu which has presets to change things back. M2 with their ShotTriggers titles showed that you can preserve games and put even more into them, so I'm not sure why I should give Nightdive should get a pass on this.
>>10144893
Welp.

>>10144893
Nice prank.

>>10144893
Fuck you, I hope you hit your elbow.

>>10144893
Fuck you q1mapping circlejerk

>>10144920
it is fake, there is no patch notes in sight.

>>10144920
didn't wayforward claim to care about game preservation before showing a clocktower "remaster" where the art style is changed?
at this point "game preservation" as a term became used enough that companies picked up it just to take away its meaning
i mean shit, the mere fact that limited run was brought up in that stream should be concerning
the most sincere game preservation is always "unofficial"
i expect companies to also talk about "lost media" and then release stuff that they changed so nobody knows what the original actually was like
when a specific concept "gets into the spotlight", expect some negative chances of effects

Almost done installing Q2R. This is gonna be good I feel it in my bones

>>10144628
>>10144630
I quite agree.
Also, how do I scanline shader?

>>10144929
Now I know, but I honestly couldn't tell if was real or not, which I guess sort of exemplifies my problem.

>>10144893
>retards falling for it

>>10144893
>>Added an option to make directional damage indicators rainbow colored instead of white.
Nice you almost got me

Anyone who can work it on with the PS1 monsters textures
the image quality is low even when using lanczos to upscale 2x

here is the arachnid

>>10144941
I mean, there was a fag rainbow hidden in the strogg map in kexQ1, there's probably one in kexQ2 too somewhere. stroggs enjoyers confirmed for gay.

>>10144893
>Compass now directs the player toward secrets they haven't yet found through alternate, yellow markers.

>>10144945

>>10144949
I want this unironically. I'm an old boomboom now, I don't have much time left, just lead me to the secrets please

>>10144932
reshade

will check replies tomorrow
bedtime now
woke up at 10pm kek
if anyone wants me to upload my setup including reshade to mega or something I can do it tomorrow then I'll drop a link

>>10144775
Adrian is the guy who you would sit to talk about carpenter and cronemberg horror movies all day long.

>>10144893
>Fixed a bug where Quake 2 was actually fun to play (sorry about that)

>>10144993
>fell for the obvious fake post

>>10144893
>>Fixed a bug where enemies on Nightmare wouldn't be affected by hitstuns.
What?
>>Fixed a bug where Railgun could penetrate through multiple enemies.
WHAT?!?

>>10145003
I was adding my own joke bug fix to the list of joke bugfixes

>>10145003
Why are you so upset?

>>10144850
Brains got heavily buffed too. They're a real pain to deal with now.

>>10144858
Maybe I'll have to think about some detail for the shotgun. Potentially I could add some visible pins on the side of the receiver, and a picatinny rail on top.

>Missing textures on Acid Vats
I found and fixed those. What'd you intend for killing the spider? Teleporting exploding barrels at it?

been hearing rumors that the Q2 remaster brought some GZ AI to the base game and The Reckoning. i really liked Ground Zero's changes and it absolutely redeemed Q2 for me. hope CotM is good.

>>10145107
HOLY SHIT ENFORCERS ARE STRAFING AND DUCKING AROUND NOW THIS IS AWESOME AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>10144868
Yeah, that sounds about right. At least as far as I can recall.
>the original gog page is gone forever
I'm too lazy to check Internet Archive, but GOG Games is there.
https://gog-games.to/game/blade_runner

>>10144873
>MVG seems like a nice, smart guy, though I hear he's working for LRG these days
He's alright and delivers some interesting videos. Pretty sure he went full-on Kaiser with Carbon Engine at Limited Run Games, yeah.
>while I like Nightdive and Digital Eclipse's work
On that point, I would like to point out what I think is a neat nitpick: both Bethesda and Blizzard should've made it more clear in the trailers of their re-releases that Nightdive and Digital Eclipse were responsible for them respectively.
>LRG seems to me like a shitty pozzed company that's going to accelerate the death of physical media more than anything.
I can only recall how terrible they're with shipping stuff. Never dealt with LRG since I'm fucking poor, but I have a grudge against Bethesda on this front.
>>10144878
>>10144891
>I still with EA could reach Nightdive with Wing Commander.
Keep in mind that he's not working at Nightdive anymore. MVG is with LRG now, and they're re-releasing Gex!
>>10144920
>My biggest problem with Nightdive is that they inevitably always change something and they don't give you a option to change it back.
To be fair, that's the case with every re-release and remaster. All of them have some kind of differences from the original, big and/or small. You just can't avoid that, unfortunately.

The boss fights in the new episode suck. Especially the one that constantly spawns those jumping fucks.

>>10145110
what is this?

>>10145132
for a second I thought you meant they ported Q1's spawns to Q2.
though I guess they would be trivial to deal with, having all the full-auto hitscan and whatnot.

Do you guys like the new enhanced models for Q2? If so what's your favorite strogg model?

>>10145143
Nah, I never played the expansions so I don't know what they're called. They're four-legged bug guys who fire green projectiles and get back up unless you gib them.
One of the bosses spawns them endlessly, and it's entirely possible to miss a significant portion of your arsenal before that fight. The boss also has rockets and a railgun and it's a point of no return before his fight. They pull that shit throughout this entire episode and it's fucking obnoxious.

>>10145107
It’s been mostly good. It feels like a mix of GZ, Reckoning, and other changes/additions revealed through the 25th Anniversary modunit. I’ll have to do more comparisons about old and new shotgun guards. They’re still hitting hard but not sure how much, and they do dart around like they do in GZ which is delightful to see.
The things that have felt weird have been the centered hitscan weapons and the railgun nerf. Also not a fan of the fog. It can be disabled but it seems like a few outside areas were relit with it in mind and don’t look so good without it.

Quake 1.5. Where art thou...?

>>10145156
i'd like an option to enable Enforcers firing upon detection like in The Reckoning.

>>10145148
Maidens have nice round tits now.

>>10145153
The bugs are called stalkers. They are actually inspired by a Strife enemy of the same name, as Strife is the only actual game Rogue ever made, other than that it was id expansions.

>>10145164
im surprised ND pulled that off given the current state of the industry. Paul Steed would be proud.
https://youtu.be/6raOGEx3Ib8?t=54

>>10145064
nah, the fucking flu is making me livid, and i am coughing like a tuberculosis patient, and talking like Black Mesa alert radio ai.

>>10145148
Yes, also the old faces and even my upscale edits of it marries perfectly with the new model shapes, the textures themselves are top notch and i dont need to do any estra handiwork.
so i thank whoever made this possible at nightdive.
I would say the maidens because they look great now, normal or my edits but the real winner here is the Super Tank, they really restored him

>>10145172
Paul would love to see Wing Commander remastered since he had his work on it, if EA ever commits that, they don't need to make the models or cockpits anymore thanks to WCNews

>>10145172
Well yeah but apparently they do not appear in the new episode by Machine games.

It's crazy how fast the grenade dudes fire grenades at you now. There's no hesitation at all at times. Why are the grenades so orange though? They fucked the colour up.

>>10145202
They restored the gunner commander too

>>10145184
>nah, the fucking flu is making me livid, and i am coughing like a tuberculosis patient, and talking like Black Mesa alert radio ai.
hope youll do ok.
>Paul would love to see Wing Commander remastered since he had his work on it, if EA ever commits that, they don't need to make the models or cockpits anymore thanks to WCNews
at least we dont need a Freespace 2 remaster thanks to the source code release.
>>10145187
well, fuck. at least it fixes this plothole. https://youtu.be/eeUYE1XNO5E?t=40

>>10144893
First I lol'd. Then I was disappointed as I saw how many anons thought that these were real real patch notes. Have I been posting with literal retards all these years?

>>10145230
No anon, you are the retards.

>>10145230
always were

>>10144605
>Blade Runner was a fucking fiasco
Did it get better with patches?

>This version of Quake II will not install on this language version of Windows 95/NT
I'm amazed at how little information there is online about Q2 region locking

Do we fight actual stroggs in q2 or is it all stroggified humans? What do stroggs even look like? Are they fused with machines from birth?

>>10145110
ExUSSR DooM?

>>10144795
There should just be a switch to toggle all this stuff.

>>10145279
When asked for exactly that their response was "Just edit the dll yourself" which is pretty reasonable. The game is moldable. They've enhanced it. If you want to restore it to a value you'd prefer then go ahead.

>>10144873
>LRG
They've caught a lot of flak for their firing of that one broad. That's the only thing I've heard.
Is there something wrong with their contracts or something? How would releasing physical media contribute to its decline?

Quake 2 64 on nightmare is hilarious. Holy shit they threw berserkers at you like candy cus of how shit they were but now it's chaos. These niggers swing while running, leap and sidestep fucking grenades. And the drones are fast as fuck now too and are constantly slashing at you with no delay.

Honestly the ai improvements are great. This is the kind of shit Goldeneye needed.

>>10145276
The strogg are a mix of many other races (and humans), all stroggified. Nothing is known about the original inhabitants of stroggos, they are simply speculated to be one of stroggified races (tho I think the cancelled Quake 4 expansion was going to bring some new information about them).

>>10145141
>>10145278
someone's tc i forgot
had it in my files for a while

>>10145276
The strogg forces in Stroggos were originally from Scalebearer race per QC lore, Q4 is where we get stroggfied humans off the second strike that led to Q2.

>>10145148
They look good. I really like how the gunner captain looks

>>10145276
I like to think it started similar to System Shock/that Virus movie/Renraku Arcology: AI enabling cyberbodyhorror. Further headcanon likes to imagine it as some sort of military “augment soldier” program that went all fuck and was forgotten about.
I think QC invalidates all of this but that’s fine.

>>10144443
>Baikalanon
Hey, that's me! You're welcome, looks stellar, though I don't quite understand what that thing around the muzzles is supposed to be. Some kind of clamp or choke thingy?
How about naming it "The TOZ", because, well, it is a Toz-63, but it also sounds like the name of something or an acronym or whatever.

No idea if this is already in the pending tweaks, but there's something about the pistol that irks me. It lacks a bit "punch", so to say, because the hands look like a vise; especially in the GZD version when you also get the screen shake, it looks even more stationary.
Sadly I have no suggestions on how to improve this, except making the muzzle rise a bit higher, or make the gun move in the hand more, but that's probably too much additional work and problematic within the dehacked limitations (although, can't MBF21 do additional frames without stealing them from elsewhere?).
Also, on GZD I found the ricochet pings to be rather annoying. Don't know how they are called, but if it's a random number thing, I suggest decreasing the rate. Especially with the SSG I could barely hear the boom over the pings.
And the plasma cannon melts my framerate.

This sounded probably more critical than it is supposed to so, so let me finish with: Great work, love it!

>>10145148
I'll always like the Tank.
Yeah, he's still useless in the remaster, but he looks cool.

>>10145087
>What'd you intend for killing the spider? Teleporting exploding barrels at it?
Just changing the effect of their conveyor sectors to "kill monsters" after the switch is hit. The original ending room was a bit of a clusterfuck as well, I wasn't happy with it.
Here's my newest version https://files.catbox.moe/ts28hy.zip

>>10145275
i own an aussie version of SoF1 and thankfully it isnt region locked. the only other PC games i know of that have region locking are h-games.

>>10144591
They are excellent besides Blade Runner, I would like them to tackle more games that lack source ports like SIN and SoF.

>>10144876
Perfect Dark was released with native 16:9-support, wth are you on about? Did you even play the game?

are the new areas on the main campaign worth replaying it? i had replayed q2 not long ago and i'm the kinda guy who only replays games in 10 year intervals

>>10145473
I’m saying widescreen hacks for old games not designed with it in mind look like shit. I didn’t have a widescreen tv back in the 90s but I’ll put any money PD on the N64 looked like shit in widescreen or was letterboxed. Feel free to post a picture of a widescreen crt playing perfect dark on OG hardware for me to judge

>>10145481
The AI changes makes it more worth replaying.

>>10145276
I think the Strogg are like the Combine from Half-Life where they've assimilated so many things into themselves that there's no "real" Strogg anymore, just a machine consuming life so it can consume more life.

>>10144831
That’s a bummer but hopefully they get the support going for it.
>>10145481
How did you play through the Q2 campaign the first time through?

The ammount of Q2 apologists is pretty sad

What renderer settings are best for GZDoom? I have it set to hardware acceleration rn with software-style lighting

>>10145501
The amount of miserable Q1 niggers is pretty sad

>>10145501
personally i dislike quake 2, think The Reckoning is a decent improvement and Ground Zero is second to only Plutonia as having the best encounter design in a 90s FPS. except for the turrets.

>>10145527
It's called standards

alf in fucking shambles

>>10145501
And your butthurt is obvious /v/tard discord tourist

>>10145497
The original cut mission pack for Q4 would cover that
OG Strogg looked like the gremlins from SoA

>>10145534
I feel like all the big 90s idsoft games started out alright and were more realized through expansions and sequels. Doom itself is a great example with how rounded out it became after 2.

All fps sequels are shit.
No exception.

>>10145501
The fuck am I apologising for? I liked it on release and I like it now. It’s a run and gun action game with a kick ass soundtrack; completely unpretentious and a decent stab at a narrative. Aside from the butchery of the rail gun I’m enjoying this immensely.

>>10145551
i take it you don't like second person shooters

>>10145551
hey now
Tron 2 was a better shooter than the first one

>>10145551
N

>>10145551
Doom 2 > Doom 1
Dark Forces 2 > Dark forces 1
Serious sam TSE > Serious sam TFE
Halo 2 > Halo 1
TF2 > TF1
TImesplitters 2 > Timesplitter 1
UT2004 > UT99
Quake 2 > Quake 1

Sorry wrong

>>10145568
Based

>>10144775
back when monsters actually looked like monsters

Sup /vr/ autists, I hope some of you can help out a Doom noob with this problem I'm having because I can't figure it out for the life of me.

I have a shitty wireless mouse but recently played through all of Doom 64's PC port with no issues (loved it). Then I decided I wanted to play Doom 1+2 also on PC and maybe some mods. But I'm having this oddity with mouse aiming in Doom 1+2 that makes it feel really gross.

I don't know the technical terms so idk if it's a mouse smoothing or acceleration thing or what, but basically when I stop moving my mouse, the aim keeps moving for a few frames afterward in a sloppy unsatisfying way. I tried fucking around with setup options in Crispy Doom and PRBoom but haven't had any luck getting it to go away. Again I don't have a very good hardware setup, but I just tested it out in Doom 64's PC port again and my mouselook stops on a dime there.

Any help?

>>10145551
fuck back to /v/ >>>/v/647005815
Janitors nuke this retard shitting on both boards for attention whorism and derailing

>>10145582
doesn't sound like acceleration, probably just input lag. try turning off vsync, look into limiting max pre-rendered frames in gpu driver.

>>10145568
>>10145573
even the "original" is a sequel anyway

>>10144893
>Fixed a bug where enemies on Nightmare wouldn't be affected by hitstuns.
>Reduced Enforcer bullet damage from 3 to 1-2, to counterbalance their new behaviors.
>Turrets now have a distinct idle sound and can be destroyed in one hit from any weapon before fully activating.
>Further reduced Railgun damage from 100 to 80 to better balance it for deathmatch.
>Fixed a bug where the Super Shotgun could occasionally hit all pellets against the same target.
Fuck it. Back to Yamagi

>>10145551
I

>>10145501
>>10145527
We all like Q1 and Q2. Back to /v/ you two.

I first played on a controller, and playing DOOM on keyboard has actually been tough

>>10145613
>/v/ has standards
Oh no

>>10145613
This. i prefer Q1 but Q2 is pretty cool and this new port is very cool

>>10145550
quake 1 is great but SoA is even better. even harder and has far more interesting level theming. Black Cathedral is one of the best levels in a 90s FPS. also included some interesting workarounds to include rotating brushes in an engine incapable of using them.

Any mods that replace all the hitscanners in Blood?

>>10145618
If you are talking about Doom 1: HOW?

>>10145661
notblood has option to convert hitscan to projectiles

>>10145652
the only thing that i don't like as much in soa is the music. it fits the tech base settings very well but not the dungeons

Question to fellow achievement autists: how do Quake 2's achievements work exactly? Can you cheese them by gonig to specific map through console and complete it instead of the whole Unit?
Not that I mind rushing through everything (did that with original Quake), but would like to know if there's some hidden cheese.

>>10145470
>SIN
Would have to wait for that since they own the IP, which means SiN can wait while Nightdive takes on more projects as opportunities arise.
>>10145501
I'm honestly surpised by how this re-release made me excited about replaying Quake 2. Previously I was done after getting through the first map in original campaign.
>>10145542
That pic is Infogrames, a.k.a. nu-Atari, laughing at Zenimax because they were too slow to buy Nightdive.
>>10145545
>OG Strogg looked like the gremlins from SoA
So... Like Armagon?

>>10145668
I'm not sure desu

Call of the Machine slaps so far. while i dont think its quite as ball-bustingly hard as Ground Zero it has more interesting encounter design than Q2, noticing that Gladiators are placed at long sight-lines that can pin the player down and its heavier use of ambushes. the higher body count is really fun too. hoping i'll see things like Gunners being placed at higher elevations and Medic Commandos around squads of enemies.

>>10145683
forgot to mention. there seems to be a lot of new textures that can aid in more interesting looking levels being made. hopefully this along with the fun factor can convince people to start mapping for Quake 2. Q1 gets all the love sadly.

>>10145695
those seemed like the same textures they used for their Q1 episode, maybe with a couple additions.

Berzerkers are scary now.

>>10145683
hold up, did i see a level name called Echoes of the Past? i wonder what they meant by this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYAphcbN2HA
considering that the remaster seems to just use one DLL that has GZ's AI improvements without replacing vanilla bosses it will probably be the best platform for playing custom maps too.

Ranger vs Bitterman 1v1, who wins?

>>10145661
the best Blood port
https://github.com/clipmove/NotBlood/releases

>>10145728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lemzKrumqhs put it to the test.

>>10145726
Anon, Jërk J.F. Gustafson is the CEO of Machine games, and he made DOPA and Dimension of the Machine, man is still the hard dick of Classic Q1 and Q2 mapping

>>10145728
Bitterman. Power shield, red armour, rail gun, chain gun, bfg 9k.

Does Blood (1) have a source port yet? If not should i play the original with dosbox or the re-release?

>>10145742
lol, i shouldve looked. glad some old-schoolers are still getting work. too bad it doesnt happen all the time. Koumei Satou worked on two pretty good and creative mods for HL1, Sweet Half-Life and Peaces Like Us, but beyond an arcade Counter-Strike spin-off he wouldnt work on anything after that. last time i checked it seems he has struggles with tourettes syndrome and knowing Japanese culture that means being rejected from society, so he may have gone NEET.

You're telling me a cat developed this game?

>>10145751
Proof that /vr/ actually can't read.

>>10145765
Did those faggots replace the legendary portraits of the original developer room with their own?

>>10145765
why are you surprised?

>>10145772
the guy might be retarded, but there is an important difference between a source port and a reverse-engineered engine, which all unofficial Blood engines are

>>10145773
It's an extra room after the tank with his hoes.
I'm just glad they didn't include the guy who redid the weapon models...
>>10145774
Why are you locked in the litterbox?

>>10145652
>quake 1 is great but SoA is even better
I think I enjoyed DoE more than SoA. Scourge had the most glitchy enemy placements and felt easier than the main campaign.
>>10145773
Wasn’t it all passively and aggressively made by Twellits?

Can AutoSave be turned off?

>>10145790
>Wasn’t it all passively and aggressively made by Twellits?
Kek, is that why American McGee is a stick figure?

>>10145773
It might be copyright thing. All of the old folk might not want their faces there anymore without getting their share of the sales. The change goes against my nostalgia autism, but it's understandable. Anyway, people can mod the old faces back if they want.

>>10145721
I never thought I'd say that Berserkers have given me bullshit deaths, but that super jump has kicked me into inescapable lava twice now.
They're an actual threat and I'm still shocked.

>>10145773
No, they've made a separate room for themselves.

>>10144614
kek

>>10145721
I think they went a little overboard with the slam attack. Berserkers can go flying now, and the range of the shockwave seems to cover the entirety of whatever room they're in. Maybe it's like the hammer ogres in AD, where you have to jump to avoid damage. I'll have to test when I get the time.

>>10144509
we made it quakebros

Well fuc, from quake discord and sponge himself
>no addons planned for q2 unfortunately, since mods were native DLLs they'd all have to be ported from scratch. and then we can't do downloads because there's executable code in them, we statically link the game logic into the main game because consoles don't have great support for shared libraries, quakec had a lot of downsides, but that is absolutely the one big upside to them

>>10145812
I think it’s also why he made Carmack’s portrait disappear (implying he wasn’t prevelant during development), one of them gets all angry, and I think Steed’s avatar poisons you (implying he’s poisonous or toxic). This is all made the guy who supposedly wouldn’t shut up about having anal sex.

why yes i play Quake with mouse+controller

>>10144379
This game really brought out the horde of psychopathic manchildren.

>>10145864
You think this is bad just wait until that 3DRealms showcase in September.

>>10145864
It's just /v/ raiding because they remembered an old game exists thanks to the remaster.
Personally, I could take or leave this remaster. For everything great it does or adds it does something stupid or that feels like a downgrade.

>>10145850
All pics there are to spite id devs, even Donna Jackson wasn't spared from him.
I think the Q3A map that has the late eric webb's head is his.

>>10145864
that is fairweather's discord after he stole from dumptruck_ds

>>10145481
>New areas
It's literally one area in the first level

>>10145864
At least they are just visiting. Give it a week or two, and they have forgotten q2 (and rest of classic shooters) already.

>>10145871
It's more of a director's cut with subsequent attempt re-balancing. i personally like it but i agree that these changes should be optional for quake 2 "veterans".

>>10145849
Sounds like they would have been better off expanding QuakeC to encompass all of Quake 2's features and then rebuilding the game logic with it. Would be better for modders at the very least. Only hyper-autiste 'professional' programmers think having to do full C++ with DLLs is better than a focused game logic code.

>>10145882
they would need to rewrite and port the code into the new engine.
The source code is up now

>>10145572
>UT2004 > UT99
>Quake 2 > Quake 1
Wrong!
Everything else, right.

>>10144370

I tried so many times to play Quake II but it never stuck with me
so I'm going to try yet again because of the news

hows the sourceport situation these days anyways?

>>10145935
I don't like these guys.

>>10145935
I like all the updated models except for these guys. Their white under belly is just weird.

>>10145950
I agree, it makes them look like oversized frogs

>>10145831
I saw one fly into lava when trying to jump.

>>10145864
A lot of it might be from a single schizo, believe it or not

They got rid of design is law and the dead Dopefish. 0/10, awful remaster.

>>10145961
>look like oversized frogs
Always have.

>>10145652
>Black Cathedral
>thunder beating in rhythm with the music

>>10145148
The new enhanced models are good but they fucking got rid of the jello effect on the models which just makes them pointless. I like how id tech 2 models are all weird and jiggly.

>>10145950
The original model is like that too, it's just harder to make out

>>10146062
>dead dopefish
Anyone have a comparison with the original? I forget how that easter egg looked like

>>10146062
I bet Tom Hall did this.

>>10145765
Why does that guy on the right look so depressed, what the fuck did nightdive do to him?

>>10145765
>1997
>gloves are off, jokes, banter, bros giving each other a hard time
>2023
>check out my cute pet cat you guyss, isn't this so wholesome

>>10146091
I also have that for comparison

I like that they put the tard leash from dead space into the remaster. I had to use a walkthgrough the first time i played q2 cause my brain just eats shit when I have to go back to a previous level i already played.

>>10146062
soulless
>>10146110
SOVL

>>10145849
Fuck, that's sad news. Quake 2 Oblivion never :(
The "game as DLL" approach really hurt id Tech 2 and GoldSource games/mods longevity. I understand why this was introduced (having limitless possibilities), and don't think that Carmack cared about game being playable on wide variety of future processor architectures. Or maybe he thought everyone would share source code, dunno.

AIIEEEE WHY ARE THE MUTILATED CYBORG LADIES BOOBIES SO BIG!?
Honestly though, with modern devs reputation I'm surprised they didn't just make them flat chested and plus sized.

wait fuck I think I'm still inside the cacodemon

>>10146135
Their compromise was to just not use the enemy in the new levels. Fair enough, I can live with that as long as they're still in the original.

>>10146113
It's a fairly common feature. Haven't played newer games since forever, but I remember Bioshock Infinite having guide arrows too.
Doesn't hurt Q2 remaster at all. A great example of "don't like - don't use it".

>>10146140
Kind of hilarious that they felt the need to "snub" them like that
>Ugh, fine we'll keep that model in
>BUT WE WON'T USE IT FOR OUR MEDIOCRE LEVEL PACK WE'RE ADDING!

>>10146135
Maybe I never noticed but I swear they jiggle more too

>>10146158
>mediocre
Focus on your new video Gman

Strogg bimbofication

>>10146158
Did you expect anything else from the team that brought you Wolfenstein Youngblood? And the Wolfenstein where a pregnant woman rips off her shirt sexposing how breasts and pregnant belly and bathes in the blood of NAZIS to show how POWERFUL and strong women are?

>>10146154
First Bioshock also had that big arrow, and in addition to having more interesting level progression that justified the compass the game is also barely board relevant: Bioshock 1 out in 2007 and came out on PC as well.
Probably one of the last “big name” shooters to retain interesting level progression before it all became linear.

>>10146191
>And the Wolfenstein where a pregnant woman rips off her shirt sexposing how breasts and pregnant belly and bathes in the blood of NAZIS to show how POWERFUL and strong women are?
sounds kino, insane chicks are cool if you don't have to interact with them irl

Deaf Dumb and Blind is working on Remaster, but the water glows
Also it is hard now.
BoH works too

>>10146062
All is forgiven then, fuck Timmy Wallets and his asspain towards Tom Hall.

>>10146092
I may be surprised if one of the new maps has tom's name

>>10146165
How do we know what Shillman thinks if he's yet to do a video? It's been out for a day, nobody has covered this yet.

>>10146191
>sexposing how breasts
lol

>>10146129
Carmack possibly thought that people would share SRC, but it turns out, modders are assholes with a egotrip, while the good people who shares the code gets scrutinized by them.


>>10146207
He is still malding over the new AI and the new episode.

>>10146191
Anon I'm trying to forget those games exist

>>10146218
>He is still malding over the new AI and the new episode.
But the new AI is great, Quake 2 is somewhat challenging now.

>>10146135
Yes, we at the monolithic Modern Devs Association have already been notified that one of our own has broken the wokeness principle
I will deal with the matter personally once I receive instructions from mr Soros later today

Two

>>10146191
Not retro.

>>10146225
yes and he is raging over it

>>10146231
Is Kingpin and maybe Turok 3

>>10146231
Sin and Kingpin?

>>10146228
Anon, you can't pretend they DON'T censor sexual stuff in games unless it appeals to a certain demographic. They're blatant about it.

>>10146235
>Turok 3
I thought everything after Turok 2 was awful

>>10146235
>He's raging
I'm not on social media, can we have caps?

>>10146237
Not retro.

>>10146136
>Their compromise was to just not use the enemy in the new levels
the absolute state of gayming

>>10146232
>>10146247
>Shoots down the posts shitting on woke stuff in games
>Doesn't do the same to the ones defending it
At least try to be subtle.

>>10146240
3 is still cool. It doesn't have the hub-based maps anymore, but it's not bad.

>>10146231
RCTW and NoLF
>>10146240
T3 was just too much for the N64 to handle.

>>10146246
check the new episode part in his video, he is fuming that is "hard, too long, is tiresome"

>>10146237
Why feed their ego by complaining about them? Not sure about you, but I've played these games to death, so I'm not about to throw money at some pretentious faggot who hates me simply for existing. Just get up off your fat arse and pull the box off the shelf

>>10146263
Great. Now we have tourists that don't even play these games.

>>10146269
All I did was tell the other anon to stop bitching. Also, tourist? Go back to /int/ faggot

>>10146252
I'm commenting the posts who started it. We all know that Nulfenstein and modern game are shit. There are 100 threads about that in /v/. Here we discuss about good old games and of course about their new content, because we love that shit. Stay in your containment board, if you can not do that.

>>10146292
New order and old blood are great, you can take your "old good new bad" shit and fuck off back to /v/

sorry i'm out of touch a bit
what reason is there to dislike quake 2 remaster?

>>10146314
Purists be like "they changed the jumping by 2.7% it's literally unplayable"

Just annoying fags like that with every single rerelease. Yet source ports exist for those people yet they complain every single time.

>>10146314
I don't like change.

>>10146314
i think people noticed some differences in movement physics and the direction where player projectiles are fired. when i tried playing a custom map called Stroggship the game crashed when i received a message so there might be some compatibility issues. some argue that the new AI is too hard. imo its really good and its nowhere near as bad as the remaster for Blood. i heard the Forsaken remaster was pretty bad too.
>>10146318
they do have a point, a remaster should try to preserve the original gameplay. while im ok with ignoring it, i dont like people defending it.

>>10146302
>New order and old blood are great
As good as they are, they are not even in the ‘07 range for board relevancy and thus should be praised on a different board.

>>10146314
It is NEW therefore it's SHIT

>>10146325
>as bad as the remaster for Blood
blood fresh supply is bad? dafuq

is there really no idgames/quaddicted equivalent for quake 2 maps? I tried to get some custom maps going in the remaster but most q2 sites appear to be dead

>>10146218
>>10146235
i watched that gmanlives video and its bizarre. its been years and he has never come up with a counter argument to any of the complaints people have with vanilla quake 2. he underrates the AI improvements and dismisses the new episode despite the better art direction, pacing and encounter design compared to the base game. just another reminder that e-celebs can get shit wrong.
>>10146335
the remaster had a poor launch and even now it has miscellaneous issues with things like environmental hazards. ND couldve fixed more but atari cockblocked them. with the advancements of GDX, NBlood and NotBlood its obsolete.

>>10146343
check this out http://quake2.com/bestq2maps/links.htm
while download links are dead its nothing a little google-fu cant fix.

>>10146346
I stopped watching him after his Half-Life 2 SMOD video. I appreciate him showcasing that mod to the masses, but his attitude about it was all wrong.

>>10146062
>dunks on Adrian Carmack's bitter faggotry
Huh, nuthin personnel, id

>>10146314
I don't know if it's just an issue for me, but it disables the windows key.

>>10146346
I agree that the original Strogg AI is shit, however the complaints that Quake 2 environments are all the same are certainly rich when coming from Quake 1 fans. There's a lot more texture themes in Q2 than vanilla Q1 - base, warehouse, factory, city, space, mine, jail, hangar, sewer

I think it's ironic that the Slipseer guys don't like this remaster, since the new episode takes a page from their book and just makes the levels giant and spammy. You'd think they would approve.

>>10146314
I mean, it runs a tiny bit worse on my shitty computer than Yamagi and the mission briefing screens are fucked for me?
Other than that it's really good.

>>10146370
That retard also criticized HL level design once, and shilled the atari source port of blood.

>>10146302
To be fair I've never played them. The other anon was commenting how bad they were, and did not care about turning this general into generic /v/ thread where anons bash modern games.

But maybe, I might give change those Wolfensteins then. After all I've enjoyed all these Q1 and Q2 expansions by Machine games.

>>10146351
use archive.org for this one
https://web.archive.org/web/20220331070812/http://www.3dgamersedge.com/spq2revsnum.html

>>10144850
>Railgun nerf
No wonder it felt different. It must be for MP reasons, but it sucks that it was nerfed for the SP

>>10146346
Gayman also hated Sigil, because it was "too hard" and complained that Doom Unity port didn't include Brutal Doom. He might be the most retarded tuber that reviews retro shooters.

Damn, this thread is going by fast.

I'm enjoying the Quake 2 remaster even with all these changes.

I haven't yet gotten to the point where you obtain a railgun and I'm already seething that it was apparently nerfed. Is that on all difficulties? The whole point of that gun is that it packs a punch, it's supposed to be powerful since it requires precision

>>10146368
Change display to windowed.

>>10146407
>completely bethesda death

>>10144893
Kek
>Beta Class Gladiators now can do rocket jump now
Dear god...

>>10146370
i think the reason why people shit on quake 2's art direction is lacking architecture. levels mainly consist of corridors, rooms composed of 90 degree angles and crates, making every theme feel really monotonous. quake 1's architecture is far more creative despite having less textures themes. quake 2's palace levels are awesome looking, but by then its too late and The Reckoning and Ground Zero had the same issue.

Neat. Destroying Big Gun actually shows the weapon being destroyed now, instead of random explosions inside a cube.

>>10146410
Yea one of the devs claimed that railgun has been nerfed on sp, but they've probably also nerfed the health of high hp enemies then. I don't feel it takes anymore shots to kill enemies than before. And I played vanilla Q2 at start of this week. So it's not a biggie.

>>10146426
>random explosions inside a cube
kek, now that you say it like that, that was kind of stupid

>>10146426
Cool.

>>10146370
>There's a lot more texture themes in Q2 than vanilla Q1
That's not what this is about anon. Base and warehouse are interchangable in terms of architecture. Ditto factory, jail, hangar, and sewer. As someone who enjoys both games, my eyes glaze over after 20 minutes of Quake 2 because they're not seeing anything pleasingly new.

>>10146434
They took inspiration from Citizen Abel 3 it seems like since the last mission is infiltrate the Big gun and destroy it by inside, and the map was the tits

>>10146438
Addendum: But after going back and forth between Quake and Q2 in these last two days, I think Q2's decision to make shotguns feel like shotguns was the right decision.

Iron maidens have now jiggly and bigger boobs. The boobs have actual physics applied. Best remaster ever.

So here is a good bit Any quake 2 map that doesnt mess around with the code too hard like oblivion works on the mission packs
wellspring of murk is raping me early on with the new berserker ai

hence why decompile that shit is priority now

>>10146412
Radical, that fixed it.

>>10146314
Maybe I'm doing the commands wrong, but I can't bind several weapons to one key like I could with Yamagi.

The maps in the remaster have the same secrets as the OG, yeah?

>>10146438
I don't see your point. To me the visuals and architecture change clearly unit through unit. I would've agreed with your point if it was about some random UE4 game with recycled assets over and over again but that's not Q2 at all

FNF server's up early, since I probably won't be around to play on it; it's Jenocide with IDM. If people do not want to play IDM for FNF let me know. Password is huhhhhhnmkoFIEUP(J

>>10146457
I'm near the end and can confirm.

>Someone was working on a Perfect Dark PC port after all
HA, knew it. It was only a matter of time.

>>10145481
They added a lot of small details for the maps

>>10146467
it needs to unfuck resolution and maybe hack options and input mapping into it
plus mission 1 when i tried to i couldn't even go down the first ladder due to some collision issues.

>Quake 2 N64 tracks start with the name track64.ogg
I love these small jokes

>>10146235
>Kingpin
They're not involved.
>Turok 3
Probably. I think the re-release has a multiplayer tag themed after it?
>>10146236
>Sin
Pushed aside for now since Nightdive is working on a bunch of others things and they can afford abandoning SiN since they own the IP.

>>10146448
1964 is working on it


>>10146487
that is Turok: Rage Wars

>>10146237
My brother in Christ, you got so ready to complain about them making boobs smaller, you found a way to complain anyway even after they didn't.
Either start charging rent for living inside your head or stop looking at life through the lens of things you dislike.

>>10146407
>apparently beyond money

>>10146414
based

>>10146483
I just wanna add Quake 2 64 is so fucking good.

>>10146343
It's idgames2
https://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/

>>10146487
>>Turok 3
i wish they fixed the lighting on Turok 2

Q2 will never be respected in the quake community, get over it.

>>10146448
>Any quake 2 map that doesnt mess around with the code too hard like oblivion works on the mission packs
A fix for whatever is causing the flat water surface lighting on classic Q2 maps is needed pronto.

>>10146525
Put dukeworld on that too
https://dukeworld.com/
all polycount and planetquake stuff is there too.

>>10146536
report that issue

>>10146537
>report that issue
Where? I mentioned it on the Steam forums a couple of times, but they don't even have a sticky so I doubt the devs look there.

>>10146135
The Black Widow has big jiggly tits too

>>10146483
>playing original campaign and expansions with the 64 tracks
I really like this

>Be dropped on a lonely island
>Guy puts a steam deck in your hand, woof installed
>Stares into your eyes
>Tells you that you will be here for one month and get to choose 5 wads to waste time
>Powersupply is no issue
What to choose?

>>10146556
Can I just have Doom Builder instead?

https://limitedrungames.com/collections/quake-ii/products/switch-limited-run-207-quake-ii-ultimate-edition
damn if only I had a fucking job lmao

>>10146542
>>10146536
you mean picrel? it's not a bug it's a feature™:

https://bethesda.net/en/article/6NIyBxapXOurTKtF4aPiF4/enhancing-quake-ii

>>10145786
>I'm just glad they didn't include the guy who redid the weapon models
I feel sorry for anyone who is uncomfortable with their genitals, a very skilled texture and model artist, did a lot of mods for Stalker and Fallout new vegas, used to browse the /vg/ stalker thread too.

>>10146561
No! Just consume, creativity gets punished by a one hour beating with a coconut!

Also I can't imagine using Doom Builder with those controls. That might be an even worse punishment than the coconut thingy.

>>10146567
he is talking about this >>10146206 the water is fullbright in old maps

>>10146578
what the hell