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10135670 No.10135670 [Reply] [Original]

I did it. I made the autistic move of spending $250 on an OEM GameCube Component Cable.

How retarded is this decision?

Does it make a huge difference? I am using a 27 inch Sony Trinitron Wega that supports Component.

What about compared to a third party device like the Eon GCHD MKII?

>> No.10135673

>>10135670
>How retarded is this decision?
Let's look on the bright side: the seller is very happy.

>> No.10135675

>>10135670
You just walk out of 2009? You fucking retard.

>> No.10135676

Emulation just keeps on winning

>> No.10135681

>>10135670
Better image than the Wii in GC mode, so yes.

>> No.10135682

>>10135670
I mean, if you have a GB Player, combined with homebrew you should be able to get the very best image possible for GBA games on a CRT, so that's something.

Otherwise, you could just as easily have gotten a Wii with component cables and homebrewed it with the fix to make the image not blurry to get the same effect for much cheaper, assuming you don't already have one.

>> No.10135683

>tfw DOL-101 Gamecube
>tfw only got composite cables
Is there any way I could up the image quality at this point?

>> No.10135690

why its so expensive? shouldnt chinks easily reverse engineer that shit and sell for 5$?

>> No.10135693

>>10135670
Nice pickup OP. I couldn't ever bring myself to buy one but I always check through the random cable boxes at thrift stores hoping to find one. They are rare and it'll hold it's value so even if you decide you don't use it much and want to sell you'll get your money back.

>> No.10135697
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10135697

>>10135670
Just enjoy what you've got man.
>"You could have got a Wii and hacked it."
>"You should have just emulated."
Stop worrying and play.

>> No.10135701

Japanese copper folded 1000 times very conductive low resistancu.

>> No.10135703

>>10135690
Yeah I’m genuinely surprised some third party like HD retrovision hasn’t jumped on this bandwagon with how autistic meleefags can be

>> No.10135709

>>10135703
There was a custom thing inside the cables themselves, like a chip or something, making it impossible or very difficult to reproduce. Something like that, been awhile since I read about it.

>> No.10135718

>>10135690
>>10135703
>>10135709
3rd party component cables exist already. They’re about 60 dollars on Amazon.

>> No.10135735

it's funny how fags on this board continually pretend that everybody used component/rgb for retro games because that's how they were all meant to be played, yet the rarity of these cables suggests otherwise

>> No.10135749

>Nintrannies pay 250 dollars for a cable because it says "Nintendo" on it when a converter does the same job if not better.
LOL

>> No.10135750

>>10135735
I don’t think anyone outside a few schizos believes “everybody” used RGB/component, (in fact RF was probably the most common) but if I’m going to use old hardware I’m gonna get the best damn signal I can out of it.

>> No.10135752

>>10135735
Are you really going to compare an online store exclusive (during an era where most people didn’t have internet) for a niche product, again most people didn’t have component tvs to something as common as scart rgb?

>> No.10135756

>>10135752
"these cables" refers to component/rgb cables broadly

>> No.10135769

>>10135709

Is there any evidence for this claim of a “special chip inside the official cables”, or are you just saying repeating stuff that other retards have said already?

If so, what does this “special chip” do better than third party cables?

>> No.10135778

>>10135670
>How retarded is this decision
Very

>> No.10135798

>>10135769
The GC has a 'digital' port. It doesn't output component signals directly. If it did it would be trivial to make your own cable or install component plugs onto the GC itself.
I think some cables convert the RGB signal to component but you won't get progressive mode that way.

>> No.10135818

>>10135670
Well, I spent almost 500 USD for the retrotink 5x plus importation plus tip. I only use it for N64 for the moment and later I will use it for the wii.
I already have a Mister so I think I dont need it for that.
It is expensive but I like it. I don’t need a crt anymore honestly.

But yeah, the component cable for gamecube was a retarded move. Thank you for make me feel better about my decisions.

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10135819

>>10135670
good enough

>> No.10135825

>>10135819

I’ve heard the RetroPrism cable is worse and super shitty. Fuck off. Most people don’t want “good enough”.

>> No.10135831

>>10135735
>rgb
In yurop a lot of people did yeah

>> No.10135861

>>10135683
get a wii.
more output options and better framerates.

>> No.10135876

>>10135735
>things my strawmen said
Most people just used whatever came in the box. Normies used composite until things started including hdmi cables.

>> No.10135882

>>10135683
s-video

>> No.10135902
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10135902

>>10135876
I had a friend who as late as 2011 was still using composite to hook up his PS3 even though he had a spare HDMI cable lying around. This one time while I was visiting him (he lived in another town at the time) I thought to do him a solid and switched the cables while he was doing something else and set it up to output in 1080p, then when he turned on the PS3 I told him what I did and asked him what he thought about the picture quality. He literally shrugged and said he didn't notice a difference. He later thought to move the PS3 from the living room to his room to watch some Netflix or whatever, and he ended up just grabbing the old composite cable to hook it up.
>mfw

>> No.10135908

>>10135902
My brother was bragging about his new 4k tv and he invited us over to watch a movie. With a dvd player over composite.
I tried explaining to him that 4k is different from the physical size of the tv but it clearly didn't sink in. He also thinks blu rays are a waste of money because dvds look the same.

>> No.10135920

>>10135908
Sometimes it just comes down to people doubling down when their ignorance is pointed out to them because they don't want to look stupid rather than outright retardation, though I'm not sure which one is actually worse.

>> No.10135923

>>10135735
Rare only for the GC. And even for it, you could get by with the, much more common, s-video cable. In fact, s-video is considerable better than composite and natively available for many retroconsoles (don't know about the NES, since I never had one). About RGB/component, they were pretty mainstream for other 6th-gen consoles, especially on PS2. I live in the 3rd-world and used them extensively. Also, by emulating through the PS2 and Wii, you could experience a component-quality picture for many older consoles.

>> No.10135926

>>10135670
>doesn't even know what his $250 purchase will do
It's better but it's not the jump composite to component is on PS2. There are comparison shots out there, how do you not inform yourself on such a costly, niche item? I can't imagine all the other stupid shit you buy, if you're even being for real; here just take your (You), you make me sick.
>>10135697
>just make bad, wasteful decisions and never learn; who cares?

>> No.10135930

>>10135697
>Make controversial decision
>Ask 4chan's opinion
>Receive opinion
>"Whoa... You gotta, like, chill out"

>> No.10135931

>>10135923
The sideloader NES only had rf and composite. And the toploader only had rf.

>> No.10135937

>>10135670
You could have bought 6 Wiis and 1 new Wii component cable for that.

>> No.10135940

>>10135670
The better product is a gcvideo device off of AliExpress. That being said there's not really a difference in quality besides the price. The chink clone devices (of the gcvideo open source project) are like 30 bucks if I remember correctly. Can't shit on the oem cable though since it will probably only gain value over time due to scarcity

>> No.10135941
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10135941

I got my cable a while ago even though I already had RGB cables. But that meant I could compare them easily on my BVM that has two video input cards I can instantly swap between having my GameCube output through both the analog and digital out and the component cable signal is much better especially it's luma levels. Comparing it to the Wii is the same through RGB

>> No.10135945

>>10135920
>Sometimes
Always and frequent. it's practically 4chan's motto

>> No.10135953

>>10135902
Kek my ex gfs family bought a giant smart tv back in the early or mid 2010s and they just used composite too. They didnt even know they had a router until I turned on their wifi. I love how tech illiterate the average person is

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>>10135861
>get a wii.
>more output options and better framerates.

>EDTV video output

>> No.10135964

>got a set of Insurrection Industries component cables a couple years ago
>even those now go for over $100

>> No.10135978

>>10135683
S-video is your only option desu, unless you want to perform hardware models to bring back the digital output.
Just grab a cheap Wii that supports GC controllers, some component cables, I think there's tons of homebrew software too that doesn't require hardware mods to get clean output, like removing the deflicker filter.

>> No.10135981

Some people just like collecting the Classic and OEM hardware. There’s nothing wrong with emulation at all, but some people just really like collecting the physical media. Yes there are cheaper options, but the cable really is the best you can get when it comes to original hardware, even when compared to s-video. If you are using a CRT without any modded hardware on your GameCube (original config), this is the way to go.

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10135985

>>10135670
>250
>receipt or it didn't happen

>> No.10135990

>>10135825
>I’ve heard
so you'll spend 200$ more because of hearsay?

>> No.10135992

>>10135985

Check eBay prices retard. It’s accurate

>> No.10135997

>>10135992
Doesn't mean he actually bought it retard.[/retard]

>> No.10136001

>>10135673
drinks are on him tonight

>> No.10136003

>>10135997

Why would someone ever post a receipt for something like this? You’re autistic. There are way more expensive and rare items to call someone out for if you want proof. If you have a job and aren’t a total faggot, you can afford 250 dollars. Some of us aren’t poor, anon.

>> No.10136008

>>10135825
I decided to look into it, and it seems identical. Still anything but a Wii is a waste.

>> No.10136009

>>10136003
So you didn't buy it.

>> No.10136015

>>10135945
Case in point >>10135997
>>10136009

>> No.10136028

>You have people who think this is the best option for GameCube image quality, which it is not.
>people who dont notice that the retroprism cables on amazon are fundamentally crapped up a bit.
>poorfags who are beating their chest over the baby bucks they saved on their Wii setup with slightly worse video output

>> No.10136029

>>10136009

So you can’t afford one.

>> No.10136035

>>10136003
>heh I bought this shit encrusted AIDS quilt for $500
>oh you didn't buy it? Sucks to be poor, heh

>> No.10136036

>>10136029
Are you trying to show me up for not spending 250 bucks on a component cable? How's that gonna work?

>> No.10136057
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10136057

why not buy a dterm cable and a component adapter? You could even just buy the dterm cable and strip off the dterm connecter and add your own red green and blue connectors

>> No.10136058

>>10136028
>You have people who think this is the best option for GameCube image quality, which it is not.
What is then? A HD upscaler with a scanline generator?

>> No.10136086

>>10135670
Extremely retarded because you could have gotten an official D-terminal cable and adapter for less than half that.

>> No.10136091

>>10136058
Any gcvideo based adapter on aliexpress will beat the oem cable in price and performance

>> No.10136093

>>10136086

Anon, check the D-cable prices. They are nearly 200 bucks. I would rather spend the extra on the component cable.

>> No.10136101

>>10135670
Was this thing even released in North America? I can't find a picture of an English language box.

>> No.10136115

>>10136101

You had to order one directly from Nintendo in the US. It didn’t come in the Japanese box. They couldn’t be bought in stores. That’s one of the reasons why they are so rare.

>> No.10136119

>>10135735
>it's funny how fags on this board continually pretend that everybody used component/rgb for retro games because that's how they were all meant to be played
RGB signal was the standard in coin-ops for nearly three decades. The arcades were where you found cutting edge vidya hardware. What are you talking about?

>> No.10136120

>>10136057

You aren’t saving a ton of money doing that. If you are spending this much anyways, you might as well buy the more convenient cable. It’s a collector piece.

>> No.10136126

>>10136091

Do you have any source or evidence at all for this claim?

Also, aren’t those for newer TVs? If someone is using a CRT, you probably wouldn’t want a newer adapter.

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>>10136058
One of the many superior options here. These are all the same design but some don't come with the remote that give you options. Blows the component cable out of the water in price and has better processing. Even through a HDMI -> component converter, it's still a better deal and quality

>> No.10136129

>>10136120
I was just looking on ebay, but all the oem gamecube cables are trending $300 dollars while the d-term is $150, still pricey but it saves you 150 for the same experience

>> No.10136131

>>10135670
Meanwhile I can buy a component or SCART cable for PS2 for $7. You Tendies are mentally ill.

>> No.10136143

>>10136126
You can look up gcvideo to check the project out on GitHub if you'd like. Here's a thread where you can find images and helpful links to compare the options
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1497613#p1497613
These cheap chink clones are literally better than any oem solution or overpriced slop on amazon, as long as they are cloning this specific project. Even through a converter, still cheaper and better

>> No.10136148

>>10136131
It's hardly the fault of the consumer if the product was not easily available initially.

>> No.10136151

>>10135670
Will it make your games look better? Yes. Will it make your games look noticeably better in any situation other than strong scrutiny and swapping the cables back and forth for a few minutes and studying the image? Lmao no.

>> No.10136182

>>10136151
Dumb post overall

>> No.10136187

For some reason this topic is making me depressed thinking about how all these things I used to just go to the store and buy when I wanted them are now over $200. Was the Gamecube really that long ago? Have I really lived so much life that these games I own are worth this much now? It's just a strange feeling. I just want to go back and do it all over again.

>> No.10136192

>>10135670
>Not being a PALtrician and having RGB scart
Palchads keep on winning

>> No.10136194

>>10136129
>$150
I remember when that used to be a cheap way to get official GC component. Guess that's the curse of YouTube, it turned what used to be niche hobbies and solutions into the mainstream. I'm sure YT introducing normalfags to suoerguns and the concept of playing arcade hardware at home is largely to blame for skyrocketing arcade PCB prices, probably even more than barcades.

>> No.10136195

>>10136187
They only sold it on their website which no one visited. These basically weren't available or advertised. Now it's just an obsolete, though still rock solid, collectors item

>> No.10136204

>>10136151
I can easily tell the difference between component and composite, faggot. Composite looks blurry as hell.

>> No.10136232

>>10135690
There are already cheaper solutions to get component quality video out of your GCN.

Buying OEM Component cables is a retard move these days.

>> No.10136242

>>10136036
>me

>on an anonymous image board

>> No.10136343

>>10135681
I've owned both. It's not worth the difference at all.

>> No.10136352

>>10136204
Those are just your decaying eyes. They both look great on my TV.

>> No.10136446

>>10136352
If you're enjoying it and it fits your needs that's all that matters

>> No.10136528

>>10136115
So they just shipped the loose cables to people who ordered them in America? Sounds like they didn't even technically release it in the region and just gutted Japanese boxes for them.

>> No.10136541

>>10136528

Yes

>> No.10136571

>>10136242
It's NOT anonymous if you put your heart into it.

>> No.10136573
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10136573

>>10135690
There are third party component cables and HDMI options now which are much cheaper, but supposedly they aren't as good as the original. I can't imagine the different is worth hundreds of dollars though.

>> No.10136583

>>10136573
I bet it's no different at all and the only people saying otherwise are trying to justify the expense like people who buy Monster cables.

>> No.10136584

Since we are talking GameCube, does a Gameboy Everdrive work with an authentic Gameboy Player attachment?

>> No.10136587
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>>10135681
False, this has been fixed for years now in software. Gamecube still runs its own games like ass however.

>> No.10136596

>>10136573
I have those cables and they work well, no idea about the ones on Amazon. I will say that the Dreamcast VGA cable I tried look like ass compared to a VGA box.

>> No.10136601

>>10136596
Dreamcast component is significantly better than VGA anyway.

>> No.10136602

>>10136194
If it makes you feel any better anon its not because its old, its because con artists thought they could trade these things like baseball cards then covid lockdown made everyone bored and caused demand to explode. I do think about it often how games I glanced right over in clearance bins for years and years people now want triple digits for.

>> No.10136604

>>10135697
Don't list to this retard. Worry. Don't play. Doubt yourself, that is the way to self-improvement. Self-love is only okay if you are worth loving.
Would you love anyone who spends $250 on something worth $5?

>> No.10136605

>>10136587
I remember reading a few years back that someone figured out how to run GameCube games on the WiiU via the Wii backwards compatibility mode but with WiiU clock speeds so you'd get amazing performance in games
It was a super experimental thing back then so I have no idea if it ever became viable for regularly playing games

>> No.10136614

>>10136584
Yeah they all work fine

>> No.10136617

>>10136604
Highly based post.

>> No.10136642

>>10136583
To be fair, Monster cables are actually the best option for OG X-Box.

>> No.10136669

>>10135769
The DAC is in the cable instead of on the motherboard like you'd expect. 3rd party cables exist but have to include the same sort of chip, so even the chinkiest GCN component cables are expensive for a video cable.

>> No.10136678

When I used to play Wii I made sure I bought a second hand original version that could play gamecube games. I then softmodded it and put Nintendont so I could play gamecube isos. I bought official wii component and rgb scart. I actually preferred the scart picture, probably because the CRT was 32" and the flatscreen hdtv was 42". The picture was blown up more on the bigger screen and made the lower resolution graphics more obvious. I was never sure which cable was producing a clearer picture because it wasn't a like for like comparison. I would like to hear about other anons experiences on this.

>> No.10136704

>>10136601
That is complete and utter fucking nonsense

>> No.10136707

>>10136704
Hope you didn't *just* buy a VGA kit.

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10136719

>>10135670
Well, are you gonna' show us or did you just make the thread for a short dopamine rush for attention then split?

>> No.10136768

>>10136719
Just report the thread. These validation types just want to blog like they're on Reddit then ditch the thread only for retards to keep propping it up for several days.

>> No.10136770

>>10135690
>why its so expensive?
It was online/mail order only, poorly advertised, nintendo stopped making them like halfway through the system's life.

Also the GCHD does let you output component but it's still expensive as fuck. The digital AV port doesn't just output a component signal it outputs its own thing that needs to be actively converted to a different signal, no chink is gonna make a gamecube component cable for 5$.

>> No.10136813

A gcvideo chink device + avedio HDMI to component off amazon are like 50 bucks together and will blow everything else the fuck out. Or even a jank ass prism cable is just a little bit more expensive and is retard proof, with only minor concessions in quality. Or you can get the same unbeatable quality with western build quality in a carby, gchd or other such expensive devices. Or you can collect an expensive oem cable for the rarity. Or you can be economical and get a Wii if you don't want to play with swiss or fuck around too much

>> No.10137116

as we are on the topic of cables ITT i wanna ask a quick question.
i have a snes with a borked AV out port. wiggling the cable a little makes the audio cut out/only play on one side, as well as the image getting all glitchy until it eventually goes completely black and i have to reset the snes.
i bought one of those packapunch cables from retrogamingcables and over on the retrorgb website for the guide on what cables to get for the snes it says that you shouldnt mix pal cables with ntsc consoles and vice versa and the only option would be to get the universal cable. i certainly dont have the universal one so i have either a pal or ntsc cable.
problem is, i also modded my snes with little dip switches on the back to let me change it between PAL/NTSC region locking as well as 50/60 Hz mode.
now my question is, how do those cables behave with that modification? i have certainly not encountered any issues but i also dont regularly switch modes. i *think* i have it set to NTSC and 60Hz mode right now but i genuinely dont know. the console was a PAL one originally and i dont think id have any reason to mod it this way if i wouldnt change it to NTSC 60Hz right away.
i also have a CRT that can do both 50 and 60 Hz so thats no issue either.

>> No.10137119

>>10136120
>it’s a collector piece
This is just a video cable, anon. Imagine me thinking that the OEM charger to my vita is a fucking collectable.

>> No.10137139

Not only is it overpriced as hell, the much cheaper HDMI solutions offer better imager quality.

>> No.10137147

>>10135670
For those who don't know, the GCN actually has a digital AV port and the official component cables include a digital to analog converter.

You're better off buying a native HDMI cable for the console and using a cheap HDMI-to-component adapter since that's basically all the official cable is. It's cheaper and you have the added benefit of perfect digital 480p on modern displays (or those 2005-era CRTs that have HDMI).

>> No.10137172

>>10135670
Put it on a big quality plasma TV, it will look incredible.

>> No.10137182

>>10137172
>480p scaled on a digital display
>incredible
laffin, even with memetek scalers you can expect a native resolution emulator look at best.

>> No.10137184

>>10137119
There are antique knick-knacks that cost the world. You can't know for sure if it's not going to be worth something someday. Nintendo has pedigree and the cable is rare.

>> No.10137185

>>10137119
It actually is in the GC's case. It's rare and expensive, and even through 3rd party means getting high quality GC output isn't cheap.

>> No.10137197

>>10137119
If Nintendo put their logo on toilet paper, people would call it a collectable too. For some hobbies, certain fan bases just get unreasonably attached, even when you’re paying 2-3x the price for literally no discernible advantage.

>> No.10137198

>>10135670
Very retarded.

Just use an emulator.

>> No.10137201

>>10136057
The D cable is also pretty expensive.

>> No.10137209

Who gives a fuck, $250 is literally nothing now considering how worthless the dollar is.

>> No.10137212

>>10137185
>two ands
>Oxford comma
>no comma after ‘quality’
I’m trying to argue about collectable cables here, not read the most heinously constructed sentences imaginable. I’m not even moving the goalposts, you win the argument. Please, just learn to write.

>> No.10137214

>>10137209
>Muh 'murricans
Rent free.

>> No.10137220

>>10137214
Schizo post

>> No.10137257

>>10137209
you can tell that the people who think $250 is a lot of money don't have a salary

>> No.10137272

>>10137212
Why change a winning strategy, you pretentious fruit?

>> No.10137292

>>10137212
>and even through 3rd party means getting high quality GC output isn't cheap.
>needs a comma after quality
Alright, I'm seeing you after class and trying to apply myself. Explain yourself, prof.

>> No.10137297

>>10137292
I assume he meant to say that there should be a comma after "means."

>> No.10137329

>>10137297
Wow after all that faggoty high-horsing he couldn't even proofread himself.

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>>10135670
As a person with said cables It's meh, not much of an upgrade with CRT as S-Vid is already plenty. Unless your WEGA supports 480p or some shit.

its really only useful for GBI with the Game Boy Player.

>> No.10137358

>>10137116
>i have a snes with a borked AV out port. wiggling the cable a little makes the audio cut out/only play on one side, as well as the image getting all glitchy until it eventually goes completely black and i have to reset the snes.
It sounds like the a/v port has loose solder points. The first thing I'd do is reflow them. It's easy to do.

>> No.10137364

>>10137358
how easy? ive done a fair bit of soldering but im scared ill melt the plastic around the connect that is, at least from what i saw, impossible to cleanly separate from the contacts because of all the heat im applying.

>> No.10137370

>>10136119
The arcade isn't your home console mate

>> No.10137403

>>10137116
Mods don't matter, you need a NTSC cable for a NTSC console and a PAL cable for a PAL console.

>> No.10137421

>>10136604
Inversely,
>Self-loathing is only okay if you are worth loathing
These are video games, there is no need to have the absolute optimal experience unless you're a curator or archivist tryhard with nothing else to aspire to or be proud of. Pathetic.

>>10136617
Remember when saying "this" was seen as redditor behavior? "Based" is the same thing.

Anyways OP didn't post a pic of the cable being used so why care? Thread hidden.

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>>10137364
Touch the iron to the points on the bottom of the motherboard. Let the solder melt and harden again. You can add new solder but it may not be necessary.
I doubt you'll melt any plastic unless you leave the iron on the legs for an excessive amount of time.

>> No.10137459

>>10135670
I thought HD Retrovision sold a solution for this.

>> No.10137503

>>10137214
pick up a book, dumb american

>> No.10137721

>>10137421
>I will say what I want then run away. Thread hidden!
I miss when sissies like you weren't around. Too bad you couldn't downvote everyone.

>> No.10137731

>>10137721
I agree. Real men only hide threads when they realize they've made a fool of themselves and can't bear the temptation to read the replies (I do this often).

>> No.10138114 [DELETED] 

>>10137370
Irrelevant. Both are pay to play. Find me someone with an interest in vidya back in the day who didn't want an arcade cab in their home.

>> No.10138165

>>10137370
Irrelevant. Both are pay to play. Only other substantive differences were interchangeable media and housing. Both formats still played games. Anything else is a frivolous deep dive into the pit of pedantry. Find me someone with an interest in vidya back in the day who didn't want an arcade cab in their home.

>> No.10138180

>>10138165
>Irrelevant
No it's not because you're not plugging the fucking cables in mate. When given the choice of purchasing RGB/component cables, most people still didn't purchase them

>> No.10138242

>>10138180
>>10135735
>...because that's how they were all meant to be played
Coin-ops showcased the latest technology -- tech that was unavailable to gamers, but still sought after (obviously). RGB was the standard in those machines for years. You are both an annoying pedant, and a dishonest actor who argues in bad faith. Or just fucking clueless.

>> No.10138246

>>10138242
>but still sought after
Then why didn't people buy the relevant cables for their home systems? You cannot call me dishonest when people used composite when given the choice

>> No.10138257

>>10135819
Why do all these high end cables always use the thinnest wires imaginable for the connectors? For the price they ask for some of these cables I'd expect solid core and copper braiding all the way through, not for it to just become angel hair pasta halfway to the TV.

>> No.10138275

>>10138246
>Then why didn't people buy the relevant cables for their home systems?
You don't know that they DIDN'T. I bought the best cables available. Pretty sure I wasn't alone. Maybe my standards were just higher than yours.
>You cannot call me dishonest when people used composite when given the choice
See above.

>> No.10138282

>>10138257
It's not a high end cable by any means. It's just a good for normies option. They won't notice the audio channels possibly being flipped or the colors being a little weird. Still better than a video at least

>> No.10138284

>>10138275
>You don't know that they DIDN'T
No second hand system you can buy will come with RGB/component cables; it will come with composite cables. Explain the evonomics

>> No.10138295

>>10138257
>Why do all these high end cables always use the thinnest wires imaginable
Down to the manufacturer. Some are thin, some look like this:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.selby.com.au%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F8dc42fa2ff86d291f127cfbcf7f58b48%2F1%2F7%2F17531.1_1__1__1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=f86ebf0b6115d6dee324c31ed4a20e15a07f6c4a5f33e541e67b6a4732723895&ipo=images

>> No.10138301

>>10138284
Are you super autistic? Best. Quality. Cable. Available. THAT was what was important; the closest thing to the arcade experience.

>> No.10138304

>>10138301
>THAT was what was important
Not important enough for people to buy the cables apparently

>> No.10138321

What is the difference between component and RGB SCART?

>> No.10138343

>>10138321
They look exactly the same

>> No.10138359

>>10138321
Component cables are consistent and a very simple in design. You know what you're in store for when you bust that bad boy out. Scart is a lot more flexible about how it outputs, which can cause annoying problems. It's like an HDMI cable that's one and done when you plug it in which is awesome. But they fit into ports like shit. They can jostle around which affects the image. So it's 5 cables and reliable or 1 plug that can cause problems. I prefer scart because it's one plug. Others prefer component and its consistent standard. And of course it's fucking stupid that scart connectors don't fit snug. Good enough for me though.

>> No.10138389

>>10138304
Is it my fault that those people opted to buy a mud hut when better affordable housing was available on the market? No, of course not. You're making it as difficult as possible for me to not come off as condescending -- and I think it's entirely intentional. Do one.

>> No.10138401

>>10138389
I'm sorry you're right. I think I was making a few assumptions that my ass just can't back up. I was too young to even know about anything other than composite so that's probably where my ignorance came from. I'm sure if I had the choice I would have been gaming in a way that looks better

>> No.10138442

>>10138389
Fault aside, the second-hand market makes it extremely clear how popular component/RGB really was.

>> No.10138512

I've been using my Gamecube on my 1080p LCD TV via my Carby for quite a while, but I'm wondering if I'd be better off using it with my shitty CRT via SCART.

>> No.10138565

Good morning. OP here. Yes, I’m a massive faggot who paid 250 for a cable on Facebook Marketplace. I can’t post pictures of it yet because it’s being shipped. It will probably be here in a few days.

>> No.10138570

>>10138565

Also, I enjoy having “pure” retro hardware as a collector. I know this cable is completely unnecessary, but I wanted it since it’s the best you can get on original hardware with a CRT without any modern adapters or upscalers.

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>>10137452
>>10137358
just reflowed the joints and the issue sadly persists. i really doubt its the cable because it is fairly new so the only other cause could be the plug itself. i found a DIY replacement plug but it doesnt ship to my country. and i cant find anything about this particular after market solution.

>> No.10138824

>>10138321
Component isn't RGB exactly. RGB is exactly what it says: Red, Green, and Blue carried on separate wires or pins with their respective luma (brightness). Component carries the red and blue on their respective wires but the green wire isn't the color green, it's the entire picture's luma. So long as the TV knows how bright everything is and what's red and blue it can then know that everything else must be green. It's effectively the same ends through different means. Component just has the advantage of saving bandwidth. Theoretically both are equal and can be transcoded back and forth through a math formula. Because the green wire of component is all the luma information you can plug the green wire into a composite port of a TV and get a very crisp black and white image.

>> No.10138842

>>10135670
Should’ve bought a wii the official component cables are cheap. I bought a wii from a thrift store for 20 dollars and it came with the component cables. I have a silver GameCube but it could only do svideo which sucks balls because I had already modded it with the SD card loader.

>> No.10138843

>>10138321
SCART isn't "RGB" so much as a big ass cable that can carry RGB. It can also carry composite. This is mostly semantics nowadays because anyone talking SCART is obviously referring to RGB but I just thought I'd point that out because some displays use separate BNC or RCA connectors to carry RGB and Sync, which is effectively splitting the different pins of a SCART cable into individual wires.

https://youtu.be/DLz6pgvsZ_I
8-bit Guy's RGB mod uses the separate wires for RGB instead of SCART, for example. The important thing to remember is this is different than component.

>> No.10140063

>>10138843
>It can also carry composite
Does it get U 60hz on a PAL tv

>> No.10140081

>>10135670
Really retarded. You could have bought 6 or 7 wii's that have dirt cheap component that play GameCube games. It's a ball hair worse than the GameCube one, but it's not noticeable to anybody not on the spectrum.

>> No.10140253

>>10138343
Not true. Tested this myself on the PS2 and colours are more vivid with RGB Scart. Component looks slightly washed out.

>> No.10140262

>>10140253
No

>> No.10140280

>>10140262
Well you sure proved me wrong.

>> No.10140514

>>10140253
Individual systems or TVs may process the signals differently but that's an issue with the hardware, not the component standard itself, which is a lossless conversion to and from RGB.

>> No.10140613

>>10135670
You can always sell it. You need to know that some of the effects of the older games relied on the artifacts of the cables, do play on a CRT.

>> No.10141015

>>10138321
think of it this way
>RF is the video AND sound as one signal
>Composite is the video as its own signal (composite meaning all parts of the video signal composited into a single signal)
>S-Video is the video split into two signals with more detail each (color and brightness)
>Component is the video split into three signals with even more detail (brightness, "red", and "blue",) enough detail to start doing funky shit like 480p and 1080i
>RGB is just the raw video data sent in as many signals as it needs, usually at least 4 (red, green, blue, at least one sync)

basically it's less video compression until you hit RGB where there's just no video compression. That said, component is definitely the point of diminishing returns. You should think of RGB and component as equivalent in quality, the only people who think RGB is significantly better are just those idiots that stare as the pixels on their super metroid title screen all day.

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If you've got a PAL GC with the Nintendo Multi-Out port, RGB via a RAD2X is a worthy option IMO. If you've an unmodded US model then you'll be stuck with composite sadly.
Added bonus of owning a RAD2X is that you'll also be able to use it with most other systems that also use the Nintendo Multi-Out connector, just with varying results (All SNES/Super Famicom models display in RGB with it, AV Famicom and N64 display in composite unless modded to support RGB for example).
>>10140063
Depends on if the TV can support 60hz. If so then yes.

>> No.10141557

>>10140081
>not noticeable to anybody not on the spectrum
do you know where you are

>> No.10142424

>>10141015
>the only people who think RGB is significantly better are just those idiots that stare as the pixels on their super metroid title screen all day.
It's probably because people who do RGB mods on component capable TVs notice that there's a slight difference in the image because the RGB mod bypasses a bunch of the TV's internal electronics that might process the image a certain way. This slight (and I do mean slight) difference leads people to think that it's something to be concerned about. Hell, at a certain point even S-Video is good enough. I can barely see the difference between native S-Video and and RGB modded N64, for example. Our eyes are way more sensitive to brightness than color and the difference between S-Video and RGB often is just slightly purer reds.

>> No.10143161

>>10135670
Unless it's for the GB Player, very; even moreso importing.
Wii with component cables will do comfortably over the Cube's irl, even if the theoretical results are completely in the Cube component cable's favor.

>> No.10143438

>>10143161
>GB Player
GB player is shite for video quality anyway. Emulate on Wii for a better picture

>> No.10143443

>>10141231
>Depends on if the TV can support 60hz. If so then yes
This board always says SCART is the workaround to playing 60Hz games on 50Hz-only TV's

>> No.10144058

>>10136057
I've purchased 3 of the D terminal cables for cheap (around $100 each) on Yahoo Auctions JP all in the last couple years. The adapter is cheap on Ebay too. Even with the forwarding service fees it's way less than the official component cables.