/vr/ - Retro Games

The Saturn hardware is all about the uniqueness of the chips itself definitely just get a Saturn with an ODE

Just buy a fucking saturn you fucking dumbass

>>10134219
What does that have to do with anything. Proper FPGA implementation means that uniqueness is preserved forever.
I love originonal hardware. I have a Saturn, Sega CD, Playstation, PCEngine with CDRom2, 3DO, CDI. When it comes to original hardware and cartridges I prefer playing on the original hardware. When it comes to CD-Rom based consoles I prefer FPGA.
I hopeing they'll eventually get Atari Jaguar with the CD-ROM added to MiSTer since I don't have the toilet attachment and I don't ever plan on getting one. Also it's cool that MiSTer got NeoGeo CD for the few exclusives and variants of the NeoGeo games for it.

>>10134167
Why is that Analog board completely unpopulated? If you didn't want analog video/audio output why on earth wouldn't you get the Digital board?

>>10134224
This. And nothing more. If you're willingly to forgo the authentic experience for the FPGA meme, then you'd better off emulating, for free.

>>10134276
mEmE
Didn't you hear. They're firing all the GAs.

>>10134167
If you can afford one just do it, you won't regret it. I was on the fence for a long time but as soon as I bought one straight away I could tell the difference from emulating, and that was a few years back it is much better now.

Caveat: Saturn is not complete and won't be for a while longer as I understand it.

the mister is one of my most used pieces of game hardware, shit is awesome. Pair it with an N^4 and you've got everything 5th gen and below covered with two devices. Well, also soon as Saturn gets up to snuff anyway

>>10134576
It's certainly getting there. I'd love for 3DO to get on there. I'd also like to see a little more love given to the AO486 core. Imagine if they could have it get to around a 233MMX with FPGA 3DFX.

>>10134587
I don't believe the DE-10 nano has the capacity for such a juicy meatball as a pentium pro let alone with Voodoo. The Ao486 core is plenty good I'm not sure what problem everyone has with it other than OCD.

>>10134167
I do suggest getting one, but the saturn core isnt even out yet

>>10134634
>I don't believe the DE-10 nano has the capacity for such a juicy meatball as a pentium pro let alone with Voodoo. The Ao486 core is plenty good I'm not sure what problem everyone has with it other than OCD.
And lack of direct-video? Or am i imagining that?

>>10134651
It can drive a VGA monitor, pretty sure about that.

>>10134587
I haven't delved into the home computer cores at all yet. How's MSX on the mister? Can it output to a regular CRT? I'm not super familiar with the platform

>>10134167
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>>10134754
I think you fucked up your tags there jimbo

>>10134743
MSX is definitely 100% and yes will drive a CRT.

>>10134767
How so, MiSTER pretend mom?

>>10134167
>for Saturn
ehhh

Afaik FPGA is great for 8-bit and 16-bit but I think Saturn is still being worked on, I'd wait a while before diving right into it for that specifically

>>10134250
>Proper FPGA implementation means that uniqueness is preserved forever.
Do try to inform yourself about FPGA emulation before you start sounding like a marketer.

>>10134768
not that guy but follow up question. you can use your phone as a keyboard using the remote exteniton, right? how practical is that for gaming? i havent played an MSX game yet

>>10134167
Disappointment. It only emulates up to 16 bit.

>>10134810
I don't know anything about that remote thing. Just plug in any USB keyboard I have a fullsize mouse/kbd and a cheap mini kbd I bought from Amazong to load computer games.

You can map keys to controller buttons when you need which is great.

>>10134815
it does 32x and ps1

>>10134634
I just want to see it pushed further and further. I'm not unhappy with the core. I was playing Heroes of Might and Magic II and having a blast with it.
I built my MiSTer into a custom aluminum enclosure that was for a VGA Splitter in early 2020. It was meant to be mainly used for the Computer Cores, but since I usually have it connected to a television instead of having a monitor stacked on top of it; it's been a Video Game Console Machine for most of its life.
>>10134743
It works. There's Zipped packages available for so many of the cores now that it's a piece of cake to set up for many of them. If you want to drive a CRT then you want to get the Analog add on board instead of the digital. It works good. I wish I could have Optical Audio out with my Analog board connected. I'm willing to be it's possible, but I haven't dived into looking into that for a while so it might already be possible.
The ST in MiSTer is for the 16bit Atari computer platform. The whole project was mainly for the Computer cores. It got hijacked for Video Game Consoles, but I'm certainly not complaining.

>>10134754
Opinion discarded.

>>10134784
There's literally nothing to market. Educate your self about open projects.

>>10134921
Best part about it, open source project.

>>10135027
100%
If I want to pay nothing but the components for MiSTer related boards. I can do that. If I want to pay someone whose already built and tested the boards for a mark up. I can do that too.
People are free to spend as much or as little as they would like depending on their intelligence and capabilities.
I sure wouldn't waste money on a typical case made for the MiSTer Project. Some of the newer speciality cases are very nice and worth the money. I'm very happy with my anodized aluminum boutique VGA Switcher Box that's the size of a smaller desktop computer from the mid 90's. I paid $25 for it from someone that worked for the company in the middle of Pennsylvania.
I've always felt the early MiSTer cases were too bare bones. Left too much exposed and were a complete waste of money. However you won't find me throwing a hissy fit every time I see one.

>>10134784
It is indeed being marketed. I'll tell you the truth, I sell these parts for the MiSTer, as well as selling completed sets on MiSTerAddOns. They're overpriced because I mark up the prices.

>>10135132
That's nice. Nobody needs to buy anything from you. Nobody needs to buy anything from people like you. To enjoy the MiSTer project to its fullest.
I hope you enjoy the market this open project has created for you and others that choose to take advantage of it. Why would anyone assume your products aren't marked up? They'd have to be otherwise you wouldn't have a business. You'd have a charity.

>>10134219
>>10134784
ODDEs are FPGAs.

>>10135273
Your disc drive isn't executing or rendering the game.

>>10135074
I also pay patreon to the heavy lifters, totally worth it.

>>10135484
I made a discord account just to ask was it possible to make a crypto currency donation to any of the devs and the discord jannies deleted my post.

>>10135286
Okay then. What if I use my FXpak to play Super Game Boy games? Or just enhancement chips in general. What about the Mega Drive flashcart that uses FPGA to act as a Sega CD?

>>10134167
Saturn is still in development but will be released soon (cannot save in current version for example). I never tried saturn on it so I cannot comment.

The MisTer in general is quite good, runs anything up to PS1 with virtually no lag, and can be connected to CRTs and original controllers, but also works with HDMI and Bluetooth, meaning it is a versatile machine.

It's the 80% rule, you can run all the games on hardware you already have for virtually no cost (80% of the way with 20% of the cost), but if you want to get a dedicated machine with low lag (the extra 20%) you have to pay the premium cost.

Advantage over real hardware is that you get to play many more platforms on it, no reason to change cables and the menus are simple and well designed.

Disadvantage is that it is not a 1:1 hardware clone, it is emulation that is frame accurate but not the same as the original hardware. It cannot be because FPGA technology has limits and the platforms being implemented are not open nor fully known by the devs.

>>10134167
The core isn't even close to finished. Just fucking wait.

>>10135524
>discord

>>10135637
>the platforms being implemented are not open nor fully known by the devs.
That's quite a blanket statement. Many of the systems implemented in FPGA are well understood and documented, definitely components like CPU etc are validated to be perfectly accurate up to about 68000. Past that there's still work to be done.

>>10135692
>perfectly accurate up to about 68000
Very cool, but OP wants a Saturn, not a Mega Drive.

>>10135524
>fresh new account (everyone can see that)
>mentioning crypto at all
you gotta understand how that sounds like a bot account

>>10135950
>(everyone can see that)
What an awful system. I hate paypal and want to give some devs whose work I enjoyed money. It isn't like I told them to buy some shitcoin. I wanted a BTC deposit address or something.

>>10134167
>Buying a $600 saturn emulator

>$300 emulator
why

>>10135210
Yet people do buy from me because no one builds these things themselves. They need people like you(don't lie, you sell MiSTer too, mister!) or me who knows how to build these things.

>>10135132
okay larper

Hilarious how /vr/ is the only place on the internet so vehemently, venomously against the MiSTer - but then you've got to remember that this board is like 90% third worlder NEETs that seethe over anything that costs more than a sandwich.

>>10136404
As much as I hate Analogue as a company it is funny how the handheld thread all hate the pocket and accuse anyone who owns one of being a shill. It is definitely just because it costs more than the other chink shit. I used a Sinden light gun in a friends house and it worked great, /vr/ tried to convince me it was a scam and it works worse than the wii. Being a resentful poorfag should be a bannable offense.

The 3D printing is shitty but the concept is real

>>10136404
I think there's also the whole spam years ago where someone would post the same image and say something about rotting plastic. ngl, even i almost didnt want a mister just cause of that guy.
i also wouldnt be surprise if misterfags are like pcfags of /v/ way way way way back in the day were seen as elitist pricks and everyone wanted to stick to consoles

>>10136313
Not a larper, I actually do sell these things & got rich, bruh. The more cores that come out, the richer I become. I can't wait for the Dreamcast core!

>>10136404
My PC cost more than a MiSTer & a better option.

>>10136442
I remember the days when I was a console only guy. But with how Sony & Microsoft are censoring games, I refuse to buy any newer consoles. The PC & the Switch are the only good options when it comes to gaming & portable gaming.

An unstable version of the Saturn core with saving released. We are so close bros.

>>10136432
if I had the money, I would buy a bunch of different shells and handhelds from china and see if I could make one fit.

>>10136465
I agree that the PC is a better option. The MiSTer is just unappealing.

>>10137660
Software emulation on PC can never be as good as FPGA. Deal with it.

>>10137853
You forget that FPGA boards can be added onto PC's. FPGA isn't exclusive to the MiSTer. Checkmate.

>>10137960
How is that sort of thing coming along?

>>10136408
It's basically 2 different kinds of people commenting on these, the ones trying to justify an expensive purchase that they are not enjoying so much, and the ones trying to justify sticking to cheaper systems even though it advertises lack of money. There is also the ones too busy playing games on whatever platforms they own to bother give a shit to these threads.

>>10136408
It's basically 2 different kinds of people commenting on these, the ones trying to justify an expensive purchase that they are not enjoying so much, and the ones trying to justify sticking to cheaper systems even though it advertises lack of money. There is also the ones too busy playing games on whatever platforms they own to bother giving a shit to these threads.

>>10136408
Anyone who says the Sinden lightgun works worse than the wii should be ignored. It's not possible for a lightgun to be worse than the wii.

>>10134656
actually, it can't. DOS itself outputs at 25kHz. I'm going to say it didn't actually do that back in the day, but i'm not 100% on that.

>>10135027
completely dependent on subsidized chips sold by intel. Truly free as in freedumb.

>>10134167
MiSTer is fucking cool man. It made me start playing a lot more games. Such a great little device.

>>10135132
>MiSTerAddOns
Nobody uses that, everyone gets parts from china for cheap.

>>10137994
Great actually.

>>10138556
Yet my website still gets so much business to the point of selling out these items. But good luck with the China parts.

Why is the Mister so fucking expensive? It's just a fucking chip. Why can't people make mister run on some other hardware?
It's not like there are a million other chips out there...

>>10138813
>Why can't people make mister run on some other hardware?
People are working on it. You will be waiting a while though.
https://github.com/MiSTeX-devel

>>10134167
After years of research and threads, my personal take away is it’s only worth it if you have a dedicated CRT.
Everything else is basically a meme.
I mean just the fact that there’s so much debate over it is it reason enough to not get one. If it really was all that revolutionary, most people would be an agreement on it but that’s definitely not the case.

>>10138831
>If it really was all that revolutionary, most people would be an agreement on it
Do you know where you are?

>>10138813
Because I have to make money on MiSTerAddOns somehow. Only elitists will own one.

>>10138831
>I mean just the fact that there’s so much debate over it
Only on /vr/, and only because they're retarded

>>10136156
No input delay, no audio delay, works no fuss with unique controllers (NeGcon etc), easy output to a CRT

No multitap support no monies for fake consoles

>>10139662
Input delay has been solved in retroarch via runahead for some time now

>>10139672
Runahead is a messy workaround that's nice to have, but not a full solution

Also good luck using runahead with saturn cores

>>10137853
By definition it's not as good, because it's BETTER.

>>10138831
>I mean just the fact that there’s so much debate over it
Maybe try getting out of the /vr/ echo chamber for once >>10136404

>>10139672
Using a PC for retro emulation on the same accuracy level as MiSTer as far as low-level emulation and zero input lag goes, is fucking ridiculously uneconomical in terms of the computing power and electrical power needed.

>>10139780
>computing power
A $600 machine that can only emulate and not do most general-purpose computing tasks is the definition of "uneconomical"
>electrical power
So are CRTs, by a long shot

>>10139809
>so are CRT’s
Not really, their wattage is greatly exaggerated

>>10138494
>actually, it can't.
Actually, it can. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>10139780
A PC can't do zero input lag, there will always be lag with a PC.w

>>10139959
MiSTer shill detected. There is no input lag when I emulate on my PC.

>>10140028
How have you measured that?

>>10140057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnD56BI-ZGA
Seems laggy to me.

>>10140057
Didn't have to. My PC is very powerful.

>>10140057
click to photon

>>10140134
33 ms of video and audio lag on an HDTV? Unforgivable.

>faggots pretending to be PorkShop itt
make a post on twitter proving it's you otherwise stop larping, nigger

>>10140317
meds.

>>10140227
It's probably more intelligent than you.

>>10140317
Sorg here. I can confirm it is really him.

>>10140298
Wasn't MiSTeR supposed to be "perfect"? This shit is on par with (free, not hundred of dollars) emulation. And people call us retard when we say that using original hardware is on a level of its own.

>>10140028
>There is no input lag when I emulate on my PC
lol

The fact is, if you can't understand why the mister project is so cool, you probably don't understand a lot. You're not the kind of person to contribute fixes, report bugs or even contribute financially. No you will just go on the forums and create the 100th thread about why your wahoos don't seem like you remember them even though you are too young to have played them on real hardware, or ask why Metal Slug 2 slows down. You aren't welcome it's best if you just stay away.

>>10137960
>You forget that FPGA boards can be added onto PC's
Did you forget that all of those boards are > $500

>>10138494
>DOS itself outputs at 25kHz. I'm going to say it didn't actually do that back in the day, but i'm not 100% on that.
There's a reason why you're not 100% on any of that.

>>10138520
Wow it really makes you think about how much of a scam emulators are. They literally require you to give either Intel or AMD money. Fucking Scumbags.

>>10140907
lol gottem

>>10140903
Not him, but those boards are cheap as fuck & nowhere near $500. You ain't foolin' anybody MiSTer.

>>10140903

>>10141456
>>10141459
Well it looks like the MiSTer shills are finished! PC Master Race for the win!

>>10140907
Wow, it's not like they run on ARM and IBM chips as well.
WOW
O
W

>>10140907
Sounds like no vendor lock-in to me, as opposed to an esoteric chip sold by intel only and subsidized for students.

>>10141704
>MiSTer shills are finished
They didn't even start lol
Even "muh zero input lag" is software-emulation tier as anon showed here
>>10140134

If my cellphone's camera is up to the task, I think I'll even reproduce this test tonight just to show that anyone can have the same experience with the very PC they're using to browse this thread. No more spending needed.

>>10142063
Waiting for this. Do audio lag as well. Also specific exactly what display you're using and what the settings are

>>10142070
lol then come set a audio lag test to me. I'm not your errand boy. I'll figure a way to capture in slow motion and do an input lag test. Unlike you, I'm not a shill, so I'm not getting paid to do any of this.

>>10142179
If you don't have the means to physically count frames then don't bother, just wasting both our time

>>10142267
he could do it by seeing the frames only, the only thing which adds by counting is the input lag of the tv which is only used for comparing different tv sets, not seeing lag on the same setup, the way anon is doing it is the right and correct way and you are just being a retarded shill to get people into overspending on a mister and making a retarded fight with software emulation when the mister and software emulation have the same capacities and work together, with the advantage of the mister of being more portable.

>>10142063
The MiSTer shill claimed that the FPGA board for the PC is $500. But it is surprisedly way cheaper than $500, as shown here...
>>10141456
>>10141459

I've been posting this in FPGA threads for a while now:

>MiSTer fans
Normal and reasonable people, who just have a hobby and want to discuss it.
>MiSTer shills
Delusional retards who are constantly spouting lies and warring, even against original consoles. Pay them no mind.

>>10142372
You can't 'just discuss' the mister on /vr/ because of retards who have no context on the differences between it and software emulation, and since it costs money they just write it off because dumb monkey brain

Discussion in general is almost impossible on 4chan because everyone is autistic and behind 10 levels of irony and disingenuous sarcasm at all times

>>10142704
Everything costs money, that's not the point. I don't know if it's falseflagging or just insecurity, but there are quite a few people around these threads who put MiSTer in a godly pedestal, always pushing a supposed perfection of FPGA (even with test results showing flaws).

In every discussion thread around here, be it old PCs, original consoles, emulation or CRTs, people talk about the good and the bad. However, this does not seem possible in MiSTer threads, because you can only praise the device, or else, shills get offended. I've never seen such insecurity, not even in Reddit.

All sane users knows Saturn isn't perfect on MiSTer, there's a lot to be done, but shills kept pushing it to OP as if it's some sort of scam. What's your meaning of "discussion"? Lowering your head to every half-truth posted and be ok with it just because? I'd suggest opening up your own imageboard and deleting each comment that tickles your sensitivity, if that's your vibe. Argument and counter-argument has been as online boards always worked.

>112 replies
>36 posters

>>10132170
>153 replies
>83 posters

>>10137069
>106 replies
>73 posters

Hmmm

>>10142894
>people actually getting involved in a discussion instead of just making 1 drive-by shitpost and bailing
whoa.

>>10142880
Well either you like Mister or you don't. If you don't that's cool, but if you do that's cool also. As someone who does like it, it's my perogative to share my opinion and experience with OP as he requested and I know for certain that pretty much everyone who doesn't like mister hasn't tried one.

>>10142063
>>10142070
Bad news: my phone sucks, it doesn't film as slowly as I wanted. Good news: the test is doable. Just watch the video at 25% for better results.

What I used:
>RetroArch with Vulkan video driver, Max Swapchain Images set to 2, Polling Behavior set to Early, Automatic Frame Delay set to On, Frame Delay to Auto.
>My living room TV, a run-of-the-mill LCD screen with Game Mode turned on.
>A desktop PC with a Ryzen 5 4600G, no external GPU.
>A Logitech F310 controller (it's wired).
>Software: 240p Test Suite v1.061, for the SNES, ran through current Snes9x core.
>No run-ahead was used, to avoid glitchy scenarios.

With that, it seems that the same 2-frame input lag from that MiSTer video was achieved. But you can do worse, since I later tried with Max Swapchain Images set to 3 and input lag fluctuated around 3 frames.

Share your thoughts, help me improve the test.

Link to video: https://send.tresorit.com/a#oiXQVpZ6pNoczvHBZkg8FA

>>10140134
That's the lag introduced by the flat panel. I can see it with my own eyes I have a flat panel with game mode enabled and a CRT next to it, there's a couple of frames lag on the LCD.

>>10142704
Hello Shill. There literally is no difference between emulating on MiSTer & emulating on PC. You can try to sell your overpriced emulation box, but I'm gonna stick to PC because it is the superior option.

>>10143590
lol

>>10143590
>wen u luv pc so much u r gey

>>10143824
Imagine being at computers

>>10143824
>says this while using a PC to comment
Kek

>>10143271
in general the retroarch goes to 2 frames on snes, the same as mister.
in general the default settings are very good for performance, early polling behavior and higher swapchain images cause more lag by the inputs being done after the core logic, aside from not working like how old consoles worked it makes for a very fucky feeling while playing, early polling just like frameskip are just when you cannot run the game correctly, auto frame delay is just how most emus run things so in general you are getting the near full experience, swapchain images in this case is dependant but the default of 2 swapchain is alright, even if you should have used opengl too to be even more consistent and review all of the factors.

>>10144068
you are getting the full experience on the latency department*

>>10144068
Do you have 1000hz polling set on Mister? What's your vsync_adjust at?

>>10144087
i'm not the one who made the test, in general emus aren't that bad on latency, it's just that most comparisons do latency tests with devices without enough power to make the emulator run a 100% perfectly, the mister is better doing this because it's focused hardware which can be bought cheaper than rasperry pis if done correctly, being more accurate and not running like shit.

>>10144091
And how the hell you get a MiSTer cheaper than a $35 Raspberry Pi? I do have a Raspberry Pi laying around. If I have the time, I'll do the same latency test with it, just to see how it fares.

>>10135286
so, are you gonna answer to >>10135528 or did you shit your pants?

>>10145349
NTA, but it was answered already. The question was about the Saturn, not SNES or Genesis. Haven't you read OP's post? I mean, the actual first post that opened the thread?

>>10145439
>but it was answered already
I don't see a reply to that anon, do you?

>>10145541
Oh, semantics. Ok, sorry, I'll do it.

>>10135528
The question was about the Saturn, not SNES or Genesis. Haven't you read OP's post? I mean, the actual first post that opened the thread?

Love the idea but would like dreamcast (and n64 which is being worked on), don’t need it to go past that. If that’s the second or third generation of these so be it I can certainly wait. Great project though think it deserves more love and I don’t understand why people get asspained. Even if you’re an emufag like me don’t you want better emulation?

>>10145606
No, why would I?
And why did you space out the replies?

>>10145635
>And why did you space out the replies?
To annoy you. Mission accomplished.

>>10145780
how is asking a question being annoyed? do you have brain damage?

>>10134167
why not get an actual Saturn with ODE? the gamer bar at the mall has one

>>10134250
The FPGA does not become the actual circuitry of the console. It's reverse-engineered approximations of functionality, same as software emulation.

Also, Saturn has no worthwhile g*mes

>>10145847
We get it dude, you have no taste and are mentally stuck in the 90s console war.

>>10145851
none of fifth gen is worth touching today. it's all trash. even Sympathy for a Knight has been outdone by better Willy-likes

>>10145795
how is spacing replies worth questioning? do you have brain damage?

>>10143271
>>10144091
I did the same test using a Raspberry Pi 4 running Batocera Linux v37, but Max Swapchain Images had to be set to 3. End result was 3 frames of input lag, one more than MiSTer and desktop PC. If anyone wants, I'll post a video tonight (I shouldn't even bother, since only three anons downloaded my last video, less than a tenth of the posters here).

To tell you the truth, I was expecting worse. Being so close, it makes me wonder if a Raspberry Pi 5 would approach the MiSTer. If so, it would be hard to justify buying it against a $35 device.

>>10145903
Where can you buy an rpi for $35? Why do you lie?

Is this the thread where misterfags are being constantly proven wrong? My turn now.
>>10147139
Are you so dumb you can't even do a quick search around the Internet? Ok, we need to help and integrate the lesser people into society. Here's one of the official resellers: https://www.pishop.us/product/raspberry-pi-4-model-b-1gb/
There was a spike in price due to pandemics, but that's being normalized now. A $35 price tag for the basic current model has been always their business strategy. Everyone who knows at least a little about tech has this knowledge. But I guess shilling MiSTer takes too much of your time to do some research. Understandable, it's quite a humongoes task to shill that useless piece of crap.

>>10147198
It's good that budget options exist for the poor.

>>10147230
Yes. And grown ups with money buy the original console, the one and only way to play with true accuracy and zero lag, like a chad, not a misterfag.

>>10145829
Would you really wanna spend $200 on an American Saturn and $150+ on an ODE instead of just spending 600ish on an all in one console that isn't just a Saturn? In this market the MiSTer is a really good investment instead of trying to get all the consoles you wanna play.

>>10147497
The fact that you're realistically not buying arcade cabinets means you might as well get a mister for those alone. consoles are bonuses
Nothing's wrong with loving the mister
Something's wrong with forcing it down peoples throat
Something's wrong with shitting on the mister just cause you're a retard

>>10147497
>$200 on an American Saturn
why would you do that instead of getting a cooler looking nip saturn for half the price? genuine question.

>>10147497
>instead of just spending 600ish on an all in one console that isn't just a Saturn?
I think OP already has a PC.

>>10147497
If I wanted an "all in one console", I'd just use my gaming PC. I love owning both consoles & PC, I have no real need for a MiSTer.

>>10145040
because the 35 dollars rasperry runs sms and nes inaccurately, runs genesis/snes like shit, can't run playstation or 3do and fuck ups and dies with any addon from any console with higher input lag thanks to shitty emulation, the 100 dollar one does ps1 slowly and inaccurately with inaccurate genesis and snes emus and without any addons or extra enhancements that emulation could give
wtih the basic ram, fpga, excellent cooler, tv, hdmi cables, sd card reader with the sd and usb otg adapter costs 395 dollars, this is by putting things that you most likely have (sd card reader, hdmi and tv with an usb otg adapter) and by using shitty prices for the fpga, in general you could get a nano for 25 dollars if you don't go into the low quantity market and more. with this a mister can do all consoles until the fifth gen without any issues while adding addons, better latency and better running games, as a portable pc made to play games which has less risk to damage itself than a desktop one while giving a way to preserve the chipset architecture at the same time

>>10145903
the fpga without any price gouging is at most 25 dollars, the issue is that thanks to demand most mister sellers scalp the shit out of fpga, mixed this with most of them going to industrial purposes too causes that in the low unit market a mister costs 200 dollars, a mister shouldn't cost more than a 400 dollars for his general kit with things you already have like a tv (>>10147718) today and without price gouging it shouldn't even surface to more than 25 dollars for the fpga and more than 70 dollars for all of the things that a mister needs except a tv.

>>10147745
you have to know that fpga's aren't a new invention and have become extremely cheap over the years, the issue is that the model that the mister needs is an scalped piece which started with a very cheap cost (which it's the reason it was picked up) but increased to retarded values thanks to mister resellers wanting an easy buck scamming people and by being a product which needs to be ordered at high quantities for the manufacturing process.

>>10147745
to get a rasperry pi with the cables and more you would need to pay 2.75 more dollars and mister uses more standard parts like normal hdmi so you could get a 10 to 20 dollar benefit by getting a non gouged mister.

>>10147774
mixed with a very high consumer demand and by companies which buy them putting them high prices thanks to his industrial use makes fpgas costly as fuck.

>>10147718
Wtf are you even writing? All those consoles are easily emulated, even by a measly Raspberry Pi. All is fine up to the PS1, for only 35 bucks. I know you want to badly shill the mister, but settle down with the lies.

If someone were to spend 395 dollars in a glorified emulation box, he should get a PC instead. He would emulate more systems, play native PC games, browse the internet, watch videos and much more. It's hard to even find a purpose for a mister. FPGA isn't for that, and definitely not the reason that Intel subsides Terasic.

>>10147494
A bit defensive there pal, did I touch a nerve?

>>10147745
I paid $250 for mine including the hamburger boards and case, a few years back before the hype.

>>10148032
>a-are u m-mad?
A bit ofensive, you should say. You're the one desperately trying to defend your snake oil. I'm just stating the facts.

>>10148012
ps1 has issues on pi and runs bad on most games, i'm not shilling mister because i didn't tell you to buy one, i was telling you the opposite by saying that you shouldn't buy it, mister costs too much, i just see it as a way to mantain certain chipsets at the moment and for that reason i don't see it as worthless in a future when the nano fpga doesn't cost as much, right now dedicated chipsets for emulating games or cheap android phones are the solution to the emu problem rather than anything else.
>>10148036
because the fpga price gouging problem has existed since the inception of the nano, in general intel gouges it, all stores gouge it and mister shills gouge it, the manufacture cost of a nano is between 10 dollars like most chips of these kind, the reason the nano costs so much is because of intel and the stores which make it cost a lot while being very cheap to produce.

>>10148062
fpga nano* in general intel tech fpga's shouldn't have even be used on the mister thinking about it, it was a retarded idea on the first place.
i just hope that all of the cores are easy to port.

>>10148070

>>10148062
Price gouging? Intel literally subsidizes these for education users at $190 or $225 for everyone else. All you need is the DE-10 Nano, 128MB SDRAM which is $60 and an OTG hub which is like $10 on amazong.

>>10148141
the sdram is 20
yes, intel giving it for a little cheaper is like saying that colleges aren't winning money from forced new editions with no new content because they are selling them at a 10% discount, aside from that, those fpga's cost 200 dollars, you are saying that they are caring by giving a 10 dollar discount when is more likely that they are only doing it to say that they are giving educational benefits while not giving a shit.
i put the cost of a cooling kit to make it last, sd card readers and the otg to usb cable as well.
>>10148095
no, it's just that the fpga costs too much and isn't worth it at the moment.

>>10148201
It doesn't need a cooling kit, I never had one on mine. It doesn't need an sd card reader but who doesn't already have one? I see on the terasic site you can option an OTG hub for $5 with the DE10-nano, and with the SDRAM that's all you need to play gaems. Pretty decent value to me, which is a subjective analysis.

>>10147518
i live in a walkable city so i can go outside and play the actual arcade machines at multiple places, some cover + freeplay. The one i go to most has $0.10 tokens on Thursdays and i can keep them for the rest of the week.

i mostly only play pinball though, because non-portable phone games are not fun for long, or at all, and MAME exists. I doubt i'd enjoy arcade emulation with the minimal video effects a mister can do. i like fancy shaders.

>>10148208
they recommended to have one and i was reading that it needed one to read roms on the first place, sorry if i was ignorant on that case.
still the fpga still costs too much to be worth it.

>>10148408
Who's "they"? I don't see any "they" recommending it other than opinions.

>>10145874
no, I have interest in people's behavior both in and outside the internet. it always fascinates me how primate and dumb some individuals are and I try to understand why they do what they do. in this case it's because there's no need for spacing, therefore it peeked my curiosity

>>10147607
But why? You can save a lot of space! It's the swiss army knife of consoles.

>>10149007
You sound like a salesmen. No thanks mister, I'm happy with what I got, plus my consoles & games are worth more if I ever decided to sell them.

>>10148890
>I have interest in people's behavior
I see. You're so mentally handicapped you need to observe people to know how to act, just like a toddler.

>>10148062
>ps1 has issues on pi and runs bad on most games
What is Duck/SwanStation? Or maybe... Are you stuck five years in the past with PCSX ReARMed? Not that I'd expect any better from a shill.

>>10149194
no, it's just like observing irrational animals. like going to the zoo, but for free
why do you keep projecting? I'm interested in that too. seems like a fascinating behavior

Why are these threads filled with constant shitflinging while the Handheld general hits the bump limit without issues. I hate you niggers so much

>>10149201
The only shill here is you. How much does the Pi company pay you?

>>10149237
Ok, Timmy. I'll take you to the zoo afterwards. Now, put on your helmet and be quiet while uncle discuss with the other adults here.

>>10149332
can you not read? humans is what I like to study

>>10149292
Real hardware, desktop PCs, SBCs, it doesn't matter. I'm just showing they're all better than the MiSTer. Nobody pays me, I do it solely for my desire to keep this board free from scammers. If you're gonna shill something, choose a product that's actually useful and cost-effective.

I love mine, really convenient to hook up to my PVM and feels just as responsive as real hardware. Also auto detects my weird negcon when I play R4 where ad I have to do a lot of fiddling with retroarch to get it setup and even then never really feels quite right (I'm not sure the deadzones are the same)

No clue why /vr/ shits on it nonstop, cool little device

>>10149703
>No clue why /vr/ shits on it nonstop
Because its userbase uses it to shit on everyone else. Nonstop. It's a "you reap what you sow" kinda deal.

>>10149162
But what about accuracy? What about latency? What about input lag?

>>10149708
I don't notice any input lag & these consoles are pretty fucking accurate. Good day, shill. Good day.

>>10149707
?
I mostly see the opposite here, it's like you can't talk about it at all without being called a shill

Though that's most things here unfortunately

>>10149760
Honestly good, commercial endeavours of any kind should consistently be resisted on any board. If some good discussion gets sniped at the cost of resisting the endless waves of shills and marketers that poison these boards it's an acceptable price to pay.

>>10149765
But there's literally zero good discussion on 4chan. Everyone is to hostile towards it so it's just nonstop shit posting 24/7 which isn't any better

I just wanna talk about stuff I like

>>10149765
okay good job you defeated the mister now whey not go down the hall and tussle with the Anbernic creeps and the Retroid goons

>>10148467
https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/setup/requirements/
>>10149201
in general i remember that psx had issue with pi and me thinking swanstation even if faster than epsxe wasn't sufficiently fast to run on a pi, if that isn't the case then i can say that it can run inaccurate but functional and useful playstation.

>>10150337
i don't shill for mister as well, i said openly that you shouldn't buy a mister or buy the costly fpga parts on any way, shape or form, see here: >>10148062

>>10150337
Recommends using a heatsink, no "cooling kit" mentioned.

>>10149810
Powkiddy chads we're still going strong. Time to get excited for the next cheap, half-finished device with broken software and baffling design decisions

>>10150384
oh ok, sorry for not reading more than the part which just says that it needs cooling instead of reading what type of cooling it needed.

>>10151140
That's cool you were just pulling a strawman out of your faggot asshole to argue with in your ignorance. Here's a red hot tip: get fucked.

>>10149765
So you're doing your duty and shitting up the much more active handheld threads too, right?

>>10136442
t.filtered rotting plastic fag

>>10151476
>rotting plastic
Nta, but I've owned a Sega Genesis model 1 since 1989. No signs of "rot" anywhere. Nice try shill.

>>10151887
*forgot to attach this image

>>10136442
>someone would post the same image and say something about rotting plastic
This is what we call a "meme". In the sense that it's rarelly a single person posting that. It's also a meme of the trollish variery, meaning that it subtracts a number of facts about reality to drive forward a provocating point targeting rustled jimmies from a specific group of people.

https://twitter.com/AzumFpg/status/1690629795963359232
N64 core is progressing nicely

>>10152031
Impressive considering he only started working on it pretty recently. I am not interested in N64 personally but I like seeing the board being pushed to its limits. There is no way we get a N64 core and not a CV-1000 core even with it's weird architecture.

>>10151887
>>10151890
Yeah, the rotting plastic comment is a cope. He can't afford multiple consoles & so he buys his MemeSTer device & pretends that he's better than people who don't own one.

>>10152058
I loved watching the early days of emulation and watching cores get developed scratches that itch for me. He posted this in the Discord which explains what isn't implemented yet that causes most of the visual issues.

>>10134167
I say do it. That would be nice to have. But if you have a kid that needs food, don't do it.

>>10152263
Reminds of the PC Master Race crap. They didn't motivate me to build a gaming PC, instead I kept buying consoles. Although now I own a gaming PC after how woke Microsoft & Sony went. I still support Nintendo though & bought a Switch.

>>10152434
>Although now I own a gaming PC after how woke Microsoft & Sony went.
same desu. I would've been happy sticking with consoles but there are literally no good choices for me now since I hate nintendo.

>>10151228
yes but I'm just one person

>>10153031
Very true. I can understand hating on Nintendo, I didn't like their business practices such as suing their customer base & the censorship they did in the 90's. Although now they do got more uncensored adult titles than both Sony & Microsoft. I was always a Sega fan. PC gaming has grown on me.

>>10152263
So on one hand MiSTer is a super expensive luxury that makes all the poorfags seethe with jealousy. And on the other, MiSTer chads can't afford rotting plastic that was literally being given away 15 years ago and definitely don't still have the multiple generations of rotting plastic they acquired in childhood.

>>10152434
lol how long before you are forced to take out a loan for a MiSTer?

>>10153241
You have it backwards. MemeSTer isn't a "super expensive luxury", it's overpriced to emulate old 16-bit games when there are far better options to emulate 16-bit hardware. The actual "super expensive luxury" you can't afford is a gaming PC that can do both retro & modern games, including one that has an FPGA board built into it. The Chuds in the MemeSTer community seethe over the fact that people like myself own original hardware, with the option of playing on CRT or on HDTV(with HDMI converters). And unlike your MemeSTer device, our consoles & games go up in value(much like Gold & Silver). The whole "rotting plastic" is a coping mechanism for your failure to afford consoles or a beefy gaming PC with an FPGA board built into it. I have both a gaming PC & multiple consoles. Can you make the same claim? No? Didn't think so, poorfag!

>>10151210
no because the fpga costs a lot, i just fucked on the cooling part mister shill.

>>10153306
>You have it backwards. MemeSTer isn't a "super expensive luxury", it's overpriced to emulate old 16-bit games when there are far better options to emulate 16-bit hardware. The actual "super expensive luxury" you can't afford is a gaming PC that can do both retro & modern games, including one that has an FPGA board built into it. The Chuds in the MemeSTer community seethe over the fact that people like myself own original hardware, with the option of playing on CRT or on HDTV(with HDMI converters).

trying to manage a PC to output 240p is genuinely black magic trickery that 99% of the time never works.

>>10153306
Haha wow you sure are mad. I honestly feel sorry for you, maybe you should try and get good at video games.

Is there a reason MiSTer threads get into way more autism battles than Analogue devices despite both being FPGA? Hell Analogue is pretty notorious for spouting that "it's not emulation, perfect accuracy" horseshit on their store page.

>>10153605
Saltiness from poorfags

>>10152283
Based on how fast this nigga works I expect this game at least to be rendering perfectly by next month

>>10153241
Loan? I don't know how poor you are, but I make over $150,000 a year. I honestly don't need a MiSTer. Lol

>>10153682
That's cool bro, nobody needs anything except food and arguably shelter. But what's your problem with other people spending their disposable income however they want? After all a couple of hundred bucks is chump change to an employed person.

>>10153605
Saltiness from mister marketers

>>10153441
If I want to output to "240p", I'd just use my console & CRT TV. Lol

>>10153505
You're the only one mad here bro. I have zero reason to be mad because I own all the consoles I've ever wanted as a kid.

>>10153761
Okay then go be not mad in another thread and let people discuss this thing you don’t like

>>10153605
because everyone thinks that analogue is shit, so there isn't any discussion, mister in comparison has different metrics to like it or dislike it like the archival, accuracy, low latency , portability and easy connection of original addons for the positive and the cost, forced use of addons and sandwich approach which becames awful to modify over time as the negative, lack of enhancements and the need to give money to intel.

>>10153789
the need to give money to intel as the negatives.

>>10153704
Where did I say I care how people spend their money? I think it's you who cares & shame anyone who don't own a MiSTer.

>>10153671
He mentioned that the RDP is gonna be the longest section and that his rough estimate would be 6 months to finish it. Sometimes you can get in-game early on a core but it doesn't mean it's close to done

>>10153761
>I own all the consoles I've ever wanted as a kid.
Prove it. Post a photo with timestamp.

>>10153839
Why would you come into a thread discussing mister if you're not interested in it? Face it you're just a cunthurt shitposter and a faget.

>>10153761
See you fundamentally don't understand the aim of this project, for you it's all about playing marios and pokemans. For me it's about preserving hardware at the logic level. You see I do own a lot of rotting plastic and know all too well that contains a lot of rotting silicon, with some of my favourite systems being infamous for dying in their sleep.

Capturing these components as low level HDL means they can be recreated in silicon.

>>10153789
>everyone thinks analogue is shit
The pocket is cool.

>>10153789
>need to give money to intel.

Are you serious? Intel should get a medal for making FPGA affordable and being smart enough to package it with an ARM.

>Buy a Sega Saturn of varying condition that may have hardware issues or may cease to function in a few short years
>Buy an FPGA device that can emulate dozens of different consoles and PCs at the hardware level. Takes up a quarter of the space, and is far more energy efficent

Hmm, let me think on that.

>>10151476
I wish you could still buy this case

>>10154635
Plenty of them on egay, pretty decent prices too. Make sure you get the one that lines up with your hamburger holes though.

>>10153878
You're just proving my point. Lol You want an echo chamber. But there's no rule in criticizing the MiSTer or it's shills.

>>10155317
Calling people shills isn’t criticism you donkey

>>10155358
>reading comprehension

>>10154243
>giving money to intel and thinking that they don't increase the price
Enjoy your standard ME (which sadly everything has thanks to intel making it the norm) and price gouging while breaking innovation, privacy and liberty.
>>10154196
>cool
it's as cool as a sack of shit, the shit drops the cartridges, has a lot of shit choices on ui and costs too much.

I'm not sure how self sabotaging one would have to be to hate fpga solutions lol

>>10155783
>standard ME
You stupid cunt.

>>10155783
>whooo look at me everybody I'm being retarded

>>10134219
I have to agree with this post. Saturn emulation hit pretty big in recent years and the mister's core is picking up development, but there's something so inherently unique to the way Saturn handles graphics that is practically impossible to fully reproduce.

>>10137853
It litterally can do all the same stuff, plus a lot more. Can I play Star Fox 64 in 4k with anti aliasing at 60 fps on the mister? Can I reduce an arcade game that originally have 4 frames of lag to only 2 with a mister? Other than easily connecting sd crt's, there is no reason to get a mister over a pc.

>>10153605
Its just so easy to troll, mister advocates act like its god's gift, when in reality emulation is much more capable. The only issue is getting 15khz signals out of a pc isn't a walk in the park. So a mister makes sense for that. But for anything else, emulation is better. People that say they can feel a difference just don't know how to set up an emulator, or test input lag. All that said, I still want a mister, because I like messing with stuff like that, and have 7 crts.

>>10159196
no one is acting like god gift in here lmao they just like talking about a thing they like and why you spaz

It's all emulation anyway. Don't fall for the hype.

A Mister is just hardware emulation with varying degrees of quality.

A PC is software emulation with varying degrees of success.

Use whatever is in your budget and won't break the bank.

>>10153241
MiSTer is still a better option compared to buying 6+ consoles and flashcarts for each of them. You might be able to get an old PC for cheaper if you don't give a shit about hooking it up to a CRT.

>>10153241
Nigga how is $200 + $100 tops for optional parts a super expensive luxury. That's the cost of a single fucking Retrotink5x. Have you seen the tink 4k? It's gonna cost $1000.

Heck if you're into any other hobbies $300 is laughable. I cycle and my bike alone costs $1000, and it's not even high end, it's mid tier. $300 gets you maybe a basic bike for doing groceries.

>>10159557
You're right, but the truth of the matter is, MiSTer is more consistent and easier to get maximum performance out of. It's set it and forget it. It has never given me any issues ever since I've gotten it 3 years ago and I've beaten hundreds of games.

With a PC you can match MiSTer's latency (well you can't on the audio lag department, but you can get it to be low enough on PC that it doesn't bother me, although some people may be anal about it), but you really have to tinker a lot with Retroarch, have the pest possible monitor, etc. I've been doing that since 2012 or so when Retroarch started being good, and I just got tired of tinkering. Not to mention Retroarch's gamepad support fucking stinks, wish they'd just copy MiSTer's and call it a day. I don't use a CRT, but if you do then MiSTer wins on that regard without contest.

>>10159172
>wahooooooo

>>10159557
Agreed. I do most of my gaming on PC anyways & I only own an HDTV, so no point in getting a MiSTer if I don't own a CRT TV. I remember owning a CRT TV & those things don't last forever.

>>10156338
>>10156632
>Not knowing about the ME and the ramifications of buying intel products which encourage them to do more spying shit.
shills get out.

>>10159907
>not knowing about Altera FPGA and conflating it with the Intel CPU line

>>10159905
>bedroom dweller

>>10159923
I share the master bedroom with my wife. So your shaming tactics has no effect on me. Lol

>>10159949
so you're both bedroom dwellers then.

>>10159801
You're missing the point, the FPGA can achieve identical lag to the original hardware, that would pretty much be impossible on software emulation. Close enough may be good enough for you, but these are the same things.

>>10159957
Sure since me & her spend a lot of time having sex, instead of playing on a small emulation device. LOL

>>10160269
>I DON'T NEED MISTER BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN PLAY VIDYAS i JUST LIKE TO SIT AT MY COMPUTER AND FUCK MY WIFE

Sad.

>>10154258
> buy $600 fancy all emulator box instead of just downloading the emulators for free on the internet

hmm, let me think on that

>>10160332
Yes, you are sad.

>>10153605
You know how there are people that shill chink shit or say they can just emulate on their phone? Third world poor fags with low standards should be ignored.

>>10134167
The viral marketing is working.

>>10159781
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>>10160550
Buy a Mister!

>>10134167
I got one a couple of years ago, and highly recommend it. Especially if you plan on using with a CRT. I'm not going to pretend to understand how accurate it is, but the convenience of having multiple 'consoles' connected to a CRT with minimal to no additional lag makes it a joy to use. It's not that expensive if you don't bother with the add-ons, but I went the sandwich route and don't regret it.

>>10160681
I'm currently using a sandwich design for dual output, one to my TV and the other to my PVMeme. I was able to try out the GBA2P core using the two different monitors with a friend which was neat.

>>10161701
oh shit, you can do that with the GBA2P core? that's kind badass

>>10161720
The analog out only ever shows Screen 2 and you can set the HDMI out to Screen 1 only. The main issue is that audio is the same, but you can set it to output "Left Channel = Screen 1 Mono, Right Channel = Screen 2 Mono" and use some sort of external speaker setup

Buy a mister!

(Mister has deposited 1 Misterbuck in my account for this post)

>>10161829
There is no company called mister you donkey brained idiot. At least do your research and say Misteraddons or Jotego

>>10162668
I think they're taking the piss mate

>>10162681
>he doesnt get paid by Mr. Mister
lmaoing at ur life

>>10159918
>not knowing that we are talking about the de10 which is only made by intel
shill get out

>>10163323
>thinking that they didn't put ME on the fpga
this too as well

>>10159918
in general they should have used the de0 or another fpga not made by intel, seriously, i love the idea of the mister and the people who are making cores for it but they need to change to a non intel product asap to reduce the cost of it and make it so there cannot be spying shit on it.

>>10163328
i'm: >>10159918 with his response

>>10163328
>spying shit on it.
Meds. How can you install spyware on an FPGA? More importantly why should I care if a device I use to play arcade games has spyware on it. People who actually have something to hide use a mixture of devices they assume are full of spyware when they are doing something normal and black box privacy setups when they are doing something that requires privacy. Only freetards think you need one computer to do everything because they are worried the government will find out that they are ricing their command line only Arch setup.

>>10163328
>Tuesday: faget spent 10 hours on bingbingwahoos
>Wednesday: faget spent 10 hours on bingbingwahoos
>Thursday: faget spent 10 hours on bingbingwahoos
ETC

Remember when the NES/SNES minis came out and the endless shitposting about "just get a rpi"? Same "stop liking what I don't like" sperglord horseshit. Pic related.

>>10163389
>>10163580
a management engine can be easily put by recording specific commands like playing a game, simple things like that on pre build systems made by others is very easy to do by recognizing certain commands and then recording the action or simply recording every line of code of the fpga .
in general the real problem which can be proven is the issue of giving money to intel is making it already bigger than it already it's and encouraging their tactics and that they spread even more to other products, even then, checking the history of an fpga could be useful to steal other people chipsets and getting onto commercial patterns to sell the data of the programs used on it to sell it to third parties for publicity or copyright coertion by getting with it the chance of using it for checking for highly known dumps of media to cause a fee similar to an internet isp one which intel could be given a part of the benefit of them for the action.
i'm not saying that this happens on the fpga tho, there isn't any proof, just be careful at using products from any computer company on these days, no one knows the things a computer system can do on the background by the closed source and the size of these systems (an issue which can only be solved by communal writing or less technology adjacent systems).

>>10163736
it could be given the chance of sending this data by any internet connection or technical service repair.

>>10163736
Fuck off fa/g/et.

>>10163736
>i'm not saying that this happens on the fpga tho
Yeah. You are basically telling me to beware of boogeymen because even though you have no idea how what you are describing could happen I am supposed to assume that Intel secretly monitor every possible use I have for their CPUS, store that information in an unknown manner, somehow find out what the data is even if it is new code I wrote myself and also transmit it somehow. You may as well tell me I should worry my CPU will drink my blood in my sleep because I can't know it doesn't happen.

>>10163627
You're correct, but it's still crazy considering mister is closer to rpi than an nes classic.

Can anyone with the simpsons core share it?