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>water levels are agreed upon as the weakest element of Mario games
>Nintendo creates a new swimming system in 3 that's far more fun to control
>lock it behind a suit and don't bring it back for World
I don't get it.

>> No.10126274

>>10126267
>don't bring it back for World
pick a block while swimming. your're are welcome

>> No.10126276

>>10126274
It doesn't control the same.

>> No.10126280
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>>10126267
>get frog suit
>hell yeah
>lose it immediately

>> No.10126283

>>10126276
yes, and? you need to git gud in SMW levels, then they get interesting. that's the whole fun part. frog suit just dumbs down everything.

>> No.10126286

>>10126283
If the frog suit's swimming system was the default they could design more challenging levels around it instead of it dumbing things down.

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>>10126286
>anon comes up with a good rom hack idea

>> No.10126361

Swimming in World feels great though. They finally nailed it there, no need for a nerfing suit.

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10126370

Are we finally begining to realise just how poorly designed and jank the Mario games always have been? Kid Chameleon does not have water levels, by the way, just one of the many ways in which it mogs Mario.

>> No.10126390

>>10126370
that's not really a mogging, it just kind of sidesteps the issue entirely. If it had good water levels then it would mog Mario, but as it is it just sort of skips out on that department.

>> No.10126508

>>10126267
Agree. Frog suit was tits.

>> No.10126534

>>10126267
Nah water levels are kino since smb 1

>> No.10126894

>>10126370
I know this is a shitpost but you can't compare the two

>> No.10126952

>>10126267
Donkey Kong's water levels are pretty great as far as control goes.

>> No.10128006

>>10126361
Yeah World has the absolute best water levels in any Mario game, and best Mario controls period. Frog Suit was dope though

>> No.10128079

>>10126283
>frog suit just dumbs down everything.
No it controls smoothly. Holding a brick underwater feels jank as hell.