/vr/ - Retro Games

just buy a floigtroller dude

Preferably one without analog sticks

The originals, obviously. But those are good if you only want to use one controller for everything.

>>10124897
Yep, original hardware.

X-box is heavily used in older games competitively I've never seen DS5 but I have seen DS4 but probably because of the low latency.

>>10124859
That fucking ps5 controller can’t stop drifting in tears of the kingdom. Fucking annoying I screamed at it.

I bought a monkey something pro 2. But I’m angry cause I liked it.

>>10124859
Nearly anything from 8bitdo.

>>10124859
Does anyone have problems with the Xbox d-pad being weird in emulators? I've noticed that trying to roll my thumb from one direction to another but the game acts as if I never stopped holding the first direction. I have to physically lift my finger up and then place it down again. It's very noticeable in Zelda on NES.

>>10124859
What makes a controller better specifically for retro games? This feels like a stealth /v/ thread.

>>10124991
>This feels like a stealth /v/ thread.
Yes, these two posts specifically >>10124920 >>10124970

>>10125002
Why what I do?

>>10124859
The controller that came with whatever console you’re playing

>>10124859
Dualsense no contest.

Very low lag, ergonomic, tons of inputs for emulators, great d-pad, great sticks, great button feel, great triggers.

Bump

>>10125038
>Dualsense
>great d-pad

old controllers had good d-pads because they were tacticle. the dualsense is the opposite, it's floaty and mushy, like you're pressing one button instead of 4 separate ones

>Dualsense
>good
has worse latency than DS4

>>10124859
Hori Fighting Commander

If I see ONE MOTHER FUCKER talk about 8-bitdo in this thread...

>>10125116
By less than one ms and only if you don't overclock it. Just shut the fuck up idiot.

>>10125110
I like a softer flowing dpad but it's personal preference. Dualsense dpad is very accurate though and has very fast debounce

>>10124985
you might have a defective controller :/
try updating the firmware through the xbox app (you'll have to get it on the microshit/windows store or whatever)

>>10124859

Snes for 2D. Yeah, your hands can tire quicker than modern controllers for mechanically intense games, but nothing beats the feeling for me and I play better with it, and it covers most consoles. Then I use XBox ctrl for most gen 5 or 6 games.

>>10124984
>8shitpoo

>>10125123
According to the charts the dual sense is worse than the Xbox one controller. It makes no sense to buy first parties nowadays with boutique brands and other specialized groups it's a waste of money to get these things despite surprises like stock DS4 low latency

>>10124859
8bitdo M30
DS4 for everything that doesn't cover

>>10125118
This

>>10125143
The Hori Fighting Commander is better.

>>10124859
Sega Saturn controller

>>10125142
Please shut the fuck up retard.

https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency

>>10124859
OG wired 360 controller for anything 3D, DS4 for anything 2D + touchpad/mouse functionality.
But let's be real, nobody in 2023 is playing 2001 flash games with a DS4.

>>10125110
Just like every PlayStation controller
Never liked how their dpads feel

>>10125121
>I don’t like something therefore it’s bad
Grow up

>>10125121
I enjoy the Zero2 as a complimentary controller to my Galaxy Tab A7, which I mostly use for notes/transferring files at college. But during breaks when my friends are busy at the gym/running back to their dorms to freshen up/going out on a date, I can open RetroArch and have a fun simple time. The Zero2 is durable and usable. I just wish it used USB-C.

>>10125235
But I also own two wireless Data Frog controllers I bought for $15, I also have two Hori Pokken Tournament Fight Pads for the Switch which use USB, two DS4 and a $5 Stadia controller for bluetooth... so literally all of 8bitdo's other controllers are redundant and inferior to what I already have. The Zero2 is simply convenient to pop into your condom/pocket watch pocket.

>>10125174
no it isn't.

This guy:

>wireless
>low latency
>works with USB and 9pin
>perfect dpad
>six face buttons
>shoulder buttons
>start/select/home
>can switch between dinput and xinput
>can switch between pad/l/r stick

Pretty much the perfect controller for every system up to playstation.

>>10125262

>>10125262
RetroBit is barely any better than unbraded $5 chinese junk, you're gonna get false diagonals up the ass

>>10125302
But have you tried a 6 button pad?

>>10124859
I use a Razer Raion for all non-analog stick games both retro and modern. Never have I thought mechanical switches for buttons would make a difference. Previously, I used to play with a Sony SCPH-1080 which is the original PS1 controller. Specifically this model because it is actually built tighter than the newer controllers and has almost zero travel on the buttons.

dualshock4 chads rise up

dualsense is nice in its chunkier form and usb-c but ds4 dpad shits on its nan

>>10124859

>>10124859
Saturn controller or ps1 controller. Snes is also good.

>>10125316
No way fag, I have the wireless and two wired USB they are amazing for fighting games. Only the megadrive pads though, everything else is shit AIUI.

>>10125316
Don't listen to this massive homo, the retrobit pads are good. Love the saturn one myself.
Regarding 'false diagonals' it also happens on a snes controller. He is probably used to something more stiff and modern

Dualshit not even once.

>>10125123
>I like a softer flowing dpad
Same. I actually switched from the Xbox core controller to a DS4 because the former's d-pad was noisy to the point of being distracting.
>>10125262
Was thinking about grabbing one of these. Is the Mega Drive pad better than their Saturn one? They look pretty much identical since they both include the shoulder buttons.

>>10125657
I don't know about the saturn pad I heard it was decent, but the MD pad is great very nice to play on and very low latency. Make sure you get the 8 button if you want the shoulder buttons, there's a six button USB version too.

>>10125390
The buttons on this thing are incredible. Though my micro switch D pad has gave out on me after 2+ years of use.

>>10125192
unofficial Brand
>Better build
>Better latency
>You choose the layout you want
It doesn't make sense to buy the ''official'' one anymore

>>10125657
I have both and find the Saturn one to be more ergonomic, especially when you want to use the shoulder buttons.

>>10125713
I can see that as the MD pad wasn't designed with them in mind, I don't use the shoulder buttons a lot though. MD pad works well when you claw the face buttons.

>>10125732

Xbox is a really, really good controller but the dpad blows. I won’t use an Xbox controller if I know I’m gonna be playing 16bit for a few weeks for example

>>10125302
Correct.

>>10125740
Xbone pads are pretty good, I've got a third party PDP pad which works great on my computer. I agree about 360 pads which were great other than the dpad which is the worst imaginable.

>>10125246
i imagine whoever posted this is SO CROSSEYED they literally cannot see the huge gap between the A and Y buttons

UNPLAYABLE HOT GARBAGE
i would be visibly upset if i was forced to use these, even in a prison\hostage situation

>>10125110
>>10124859
DualSense D-Pad is Sony's best D-Pad in a long time. The controller is dogshit-ugly but it's the best all-rounder by far in terms of functionality and quality. Biggest issue is joystick drift due to (iirc?) graphene contact scratching over time. The only solution is to open up your controller and solder in replacement Hall-Effect sticks but that's a huge pain.

Longest-lasting all-rounder award goes to DualShock 2 and 3. Get a Bliss Box adapter for 2, for 3 you can just plug it in and use one of the many unofficial drivers. If the analog stick starts getting a wobbly center, grab HidHide and x360ce and crank up the deadzone. DS3's triggers are slippery shit but you can get used it. If you need analog triggers for Mario Sunshine or whatever then you'll need to pass on DS2 unless you're okay with have a separate button mapped to light presses, but yeah go for DS3 or something else if you need analog trigs.

Xbox360 controller is a non-starter due to bad D-Pad contacts and fragile bumpers, and most models you can buy nowadays come with analog sticks that are faulty seemingly by design, there's a noticeable "bump" when rotating the sticks. I know certain models don't have this problem but I don't know which ones.

Xbox One controller has a fragile bumpers too, but has an excellent clicky D-Pad and is a fine controller, but you'll want a wireless adapter because MicroUSB a shit. Xbox Series improves certain things but fucking ruined the D-Pad. It's still precise but it's stiff and uncomfortable like no other D-Pad I've ever used. Diagonals are way harder on it. I'd say pass on it. And don't bother with the rechargable battery packs, they have a lot of faulty batches that break after a few months so it's a gamble.

The Elite and Edge controllers are jokes as I'm sure you've heard by now. Never buy those.

Every other controller I've used has been a mixed bag of different qualities that rules them out for serious usage.

>>10125838
>>10125110
>>10124859 (OP)
Forgot another one that's important to mention, don't get the Switch Pro controller. It's sad cause I love the way it feels, everything about it *should* make it the perfect controller, but the D-Pad is unsalvageable garbage no matter how much you mod it, and the bumper and trigger contacts quickly wear into a state where you have to press harder than the actuation in order to activate them. Sadly another non-starter. Wii U Pro Controller is the same shit.

Nintendo's last good D-Pad was, of all things, on the Wii U Gamepad. I don't know why they didn't just use that for all their traditional D-Pads going forward. Nintendo Switch Lite's D-Pad is kinda similar to it, it's a usable D-Pad.

I have controller autism.

>>10125857
Switch has the worst input lag of the three

>>10125860
Yes, that too! And iirc the input latency is *variable*, even when wired, which is fucking stupid. Though, I'm very sensitive to input latency and didn't take notice of its extra latency, never played fighting games with it though so ymmv if you decide you still want to use it.

Almost everything from retro fighters ma nigga

>>10125121
My experience with 8bitdo controllers is that they fucking suck. Horrendous D-Pad. But the last one I used was their SNES controllers from like... a decade ago I think? They may be improved now, but I wouldn't know.

>>10125873
Nowadays their d-pads are considered pretty good, at least from what I've heard.
I personally own a Pro 2 and haven't encountered any major issues, and I'm often slinging it into a backpack.
My only real complaint is that there's a fair bit of rattle from the rear paddles but this isn't too noticeable unless you're shaking it a bunch.

>>10125302
I guess you never used a 6 butyon controller for fighting games. The layout is much more useful that the SNES or Playstation model.

>>10126065
Eh, not really
It’s better if you like the overhand play style and only play capcom fighters

>>10125318
>>10126065
The issue isn't that it has six buttons. The issue is all six buttons are retardedly shaped and tall for no good reason. >>10125390 and >>10125420 actually have six buttons without being fucking retarded about it.

>>10124859
Original hardware, or an arcade stick. I use a stick since I lost all my consoles a few years back.
>>10125118
Absolutely based. I tried the switch version recently but went back to stick.
>>10125121
I liked the look of the snes one but it has so many issues that it sits in its box gathering dust. It seems to hit every button over and over and reinstalling the firmware and drivers didn't fix it. Actually, that shit controller is the reason why I bought a stick because I figured I could just repair or replace the arcade stick/buttons easier if it broke.

>>10125778
A Chinese competing marketer furiously typed out this post.

>>10125689
You can play both wired and BT wireless on PC without the DS4 adapter.

>>10125390
to add to this post, make sure you are getting a fully in-tact SCPH-1080 because even the really worn in parts perform much better than aftermarket ones which don't even fit the mold of the shell properly.

>>10125674
My only concern with this controller is how clicky the d-pad is, specially at night.

Should I get a Dualsense or not? I can get one for $50 right now, been wanting one to play PS1 games, but people keep saying the dpad is garbage

>>10126513
get a dualshock 4 instead, better d-pad and it's more like the old ps controllers.

>>10124859
8bitdo M30
/thread

>>10126193
>flat, near-zero travel buttons
Sounds like you would enjoy phone screen emulator buttons best. By the way the A, B, and C buttons on a Genesis pad are concave

>>10126617
Tell me you've never held a PS1 or PS2 controller without directly telling me you've never held a PS1 or PS2 controller, let alone played games that take full advantage of pressure-sensitive buttons like Metal Gear Solid 2 and Grand Theft Auto III.

>>10126702
*PS2 and PS3, fuck
But tons of PS2 ports to the Xbox had to completely remap their controls because the Xbox didn't have the pressure sensitive buttons.

>>10126617
Works fantastic on my controller. Do your have numb thumbs?

>>10126513
>>10126551
Like anon says, DS4's perfectly fine. But if you've already used it and didn't like it, DualSense is worth a shot. I have a personal preference for DualSense but I know most people prefer DS4.

>>10126702
Analog input was never mentioned so well done bringing that up for absolutely no reason. If you like buttons with no travel you can use touch screen buttons like you see on phones running emulation, that was the point being made. Also all official PlayStation controllers have convex face buttons so you've effectively demonstrated the critical criteria is applied completely arbitrarily which is proven by the fact button travel between PlayStation and Genesis controllers is negligible if not identical (just tested it now between a nearby DS2 and Genesis 6-button, they both move about 1mm when pressed, picrel).
>>10126710
Those are also convex and have button travel. Nice reading comprehension to the both of ya'.

>>10124859
Any simetric joystick controller (DS4 like), is better.
More room for D-pad and still can play modern games.

>>10126828
>Analog input was never mentioned so well done bringing that up for absolutely no reason.
The absolutely fucking cope, ahahahaha

>>10125390
>>10125420
bad d-pad

>>10126828
So a slight curve is the exact same thing as a touch screen while also being the exact same thing as a fucking half circle. Nothing of what you're babbling about makes any fucking sense and you openly contradict yourself from sentence to sentence like a schizophrenic arguing with himself. You like the Genesis controllers because they have six face buttons, not because the buttons are any fucking good. Four pressure-sensitive buttons allow for more control and diversity than six spongy shitty towers. The only thing worse than OG Genesis and Saturn face buttons is this Data Frog USB Genesis knock off.

>>10124859
I use a PS5 controller for everything now, but I have one with a modded d-pad where the buttons aren't connected. Doesn't really make much of a difference though, the old d-pad worked fine too. The only problem with the DS4 and 5s is they go bad faster than any controller I've ever used. I used a USB saturn pad from the original good batch for over a decade I think with no issues at all, but I've had to replace my DS4s and 5s multiple times since I started using them. The little pads attached to the d-pads just go fucky after a little bit and start randomly registering down and downback inputs.

They're good for modern games too though, I play fighting games with them and I've never had any issues with difficult inputs.

>>10125778
>literal child has never seen a SNES controller before, he's so fucking young
>doesn't know about the mighty claw grip

>>10126702
>analog button
im 30 years old and still dont know what that button does. all i know is i liked pressing it sometimes.

>>10126976
It's basically the same thing as the rumble off/on feature in PS1 emulators. It turns the analog sticks off so the DS2 can function as a basic PS1 controller for playing PS1 games backwards.

>>10126946
What are your benchmark games for testing d-pads out?

here's my list:
>Super Meat Boy - horizontal travel and accuracy of d-pad
>Cuphead - versatility of the d-pad
>Super House of Dead Ninjas - another versatility test

>zanretsuken (any KoF character with this move) - accuracy test

The only controller I've used that can pass all of these tests for me is the Sony SCPH-1080 (stock, no aftermarket parts). Other than that, the Razer Raion has passed them all just as well if not better. Everyone uses their thumbs differently though so your results will vary.

>>10124859
The Series S has a legitimately amazing dpad which surprises me considering the 360 and original Xbone dpads were garbage

>>10126998
>Sony SCPH-1080
Huh, really? I always hated the PS1 and PS2's chunky d-pad and feel.

>>10125838
>but you'll want a wireless adapter because MicroUSB a shit.
Seriously, I turned off my pc's bluetooth and bought an adapter, works so much better now

>>10126513
DualSense dpad is most definitely not garbage. It's a looser dpad than most, but it allows much quicker and smoother transitions. Accidental diagonals rarely ever happen with proper form, and the only thing that can be difficult is games that require you to precisely enter only a diagonal and nothing else (only a couple games do this like Pocky & Rocky and to a lesser extent Shock Troopers)

I've used it for many dozens of difficult arcade clears and it's always been solid.

>>10126976
It turns on/off the analog for games that didn't use it so you can force analog control in place of the dpad

>>10126976
It analogs

>>10127006
Yeah, it's a very precise d-pad depending on how you use your thumbs. Otherwise, I suggest checking out the Logitech F310 if you're the type of guy to rub down on the d-pad rather than glide.

>>10127004
face buttons are very close together too, which is better. hate how much spacing there is between face buttons with nintendo and sony pads

>>10125132

I love the comforts of modern controllers too much. I'm never going back. I don't even like using most pre-eighth-gen controllers. I always pinched my fingers on the PS3's shoulder buttons.

>>10126928
>doesn't explain why he brought up an irrelevant topic, because he can't
Projection

>>10126951
Read then reply if you don't want to be a confused idiot. People that prefer flat buttons with absolutely no shape to them, like >>10125390 and >>10125420, likely prefer the feeling of flat buttons with no travel as a result of being raised on touch screen buttons. Deny it all you want, but no classic gaming fan would be so undexterous as to complain about 1mm of button travel let alone some shaping. The Atari Volcano-style buttons had like 4-5mm of travel, I guess those games are literally unplayable to you.

You're complaining about button travel which is a result of button membranes, button membranes are used in nearly every controller ever made. Hypocrite, ignoramus, you've tacitly conceded, conversation over. Ta.

>>10127148
>A button's switches are irrelevant when discussing which the best buttons are!
>Calls it "Projection" of all things
ESL children on tablets asking a ChatAI to translate their posts for them aren't even this retardedly illiterate. What s actually fucking wrong with you?

>>10127148
>People who prefer better buttons must hate the feeling of buttons travelling and must prefer playing on touch screens. People who prefer worse buttons are the real gamers, but real gamers are the ones who don't actually care about how much travel there is when pressing buttons
None of anything you are saying is making any fucking sense

>>10127341
He's actually a black frenchie

>>10125657
I have the Saturn one, use it to play Genesis games all the time, not as good as the OG controller but it's still pretty decent

>>10126702
Pressure sensitive buttons suck big shit
All they did was make the buttons feel worse to press

>>10124859

I use a DS5 with my Steam Deck when connected to a TV for the simple reason of it having a built in touchpad just in case certain games don't like the mouse/analogue stick emulation in menus and such. It's useful more than I thought often.

If you're only emulating Gen 4 and before however, then you'll probably feel more at home with a Dpad only option.

>>10127341
Further proof you had no idea what was actually being discussed. Claiming this is "cope" is projection on your part, you were too preoccupied with dunking on someone that you forgot what was discussed in this particular exchange: The superiority of the Genesis 6-button pad compared to other pads. Genesis 6-button pad has no analog buttons thus you brought up analog buttons all on your own, unprompted, as if tons of retro games use pressure sensitive buttons. I can think of like, not even twenty. And that's supposed to be the definitive controller for retro gaming as a whole?

Like hey, if you wanted to discuss the DS2 and 3 in reference to the OP, great! Just make sure you click on his post number ya retard

>>10127352
>Real gamers are the ones who don't actually care about how much travel there is when pressing buttons
>People who hate the feeling of buttons travelling must prefer playing on touch screens

Notice how you opted insist on your unsubstantiated opinion which didn't even dispute what I wrote? All you've said is "buttons with less travel are better and if you disagree then you suck", I'm saying "if you can't activate a button with 1mm of travel when you intend to then you have shit dexterity and your opinion is equally worthless".

Reminder: The conversation ended when you didn't substantiate why having less travel is better. I explained why it doesn't matter. The conversation is still over, because you didn't try. How apt.

>>10127148
I'm in my 30s and guarantee I have more experience with controllers than you.
Tactile buttons with low travel are peak, and if you disagree, I have to assume you're too young to have ever used a GBA SP. Which makes you underage.

>>10124859
There isn't one. Each system plays best with its own controller. If I HAD to pick just one then I'd pick SNES, but you asked what is the definitive controller for retro games, not my personal favourite. Because I would always wish that I was using the right controller for whatever game/system I'm playing on.

>dual sticks with L3 and R3
>L1/L2/R1/R2
>good d-pad
>six face buttons
>wireless 2.4 receiver

a man can dream

>>10124991
Wow captain faggot, truly exceptional detective work. Thank you for your service!

>>10125235
Friendly advice, start going to the gym with your friends. It’s easier to get in the habit while you are young and as you get older you’ll be very glad you did.

>>10127512
I've had an NES since I was six, I'm twenty seven now; Percentile-wise we're likely relatively similar. Also that's the reason I prefer the phat DS to the lite and other variants, I don't disagree that tactile buttons with low travel are nice to play on. I disagree with calling membrane buttons shit just because of an alternative preference. More often than not bad pads are a result of heavily worn membranes. Boil that shit, it becomes twice as tactile. Rub off a bit of the conductive rubber on some paper, it becomes twice as responsive. Basic maintenance can make a pad good as new, but I suppose buying a solution is easier. Again, apt.

>>10125121
>>10125136
I have basically every controller for every system and a way to connect it to my PC so 8bitdo isn't really my thing. But I'm looking at their arcade stick. I really want a good arcade stick for a decent price and their's is the only one I could find that is bluetooth, has 10 buttons, and has decent switches (looks like Sanwa clones from what I've heard, and they're supposed to durable and usable too).

What's the problem with 8bitdo? (Other than how everything they make looks like an NES controller, that nostalgia baiting shit kind of pisses me off but it's not too egregious.)

I see people shit on them a lot here.

>>10127578
>I disagree with calling membrane buttons shit
Good thing I didn't say that, then.
You're making up things to get mad at. Cheers, retard.

>>10127661
I have never touched an 8spitdoo in my life but I think the name is retarded so I antagonize people when they mention them

>>10127671
Then why are you replying? Project harder.

>>10126193
What does it matter that they are tall? They never get jammed pr wedged like some smartie buttons do and always feel smooth and tactile. Arcade buttons are the same idea.

>>10127535
>dream

>>10127810
Now imagine that... but NOT shit.

>>10127810
the duke didn't have L1/L2 R1/R2 though, it had triggers and those shitty black and white buttons right?

>>10127849
Nope. The hyperkin remakes have actual shoulders where you'd expect them to be as well as the black and white buttons.

>>10127849
>>10127878
Let me reiterate: the original Duke didn't have shoulders. The remakes do, because it's effectively a 360/xbone controller inside a Duke shell with a neat-o screen

>>10127692
You implied that I said something that I didn't say. Of course I'd comment on it, you fucking retard.
Are you being intentionally obtuse, or genuinely challenged by the concept of basic thought?

>>10127884
You're not the only other person in the thread. If you didn't say it, I'm clearly not referring to you. My sentiments are likewise.

>>10125121
>downloading macros without realising you're the one being made fun of
Never change.

>>10127512
DS Phat buttons are better. ; )

>>10127905
>If you didn't say it, I'm clearly not referring to you
Then why include it in the reply, retard?

>>10127004
I think the Series D-Pad is ruined by being too stiff with the edges being a bit too sharp, I definitely preferred the Xbone pad. Ofc it's just a preference thing, both D-Pads use microswitches so you can get equal preformance out of each one.

>>10128627
>>10127905
You boys need to behave. Childish useless bickering, you both look like fools. You don't lose an argument when you stop replying, you lose when you froth at the mouth trying to say more and more. If you wanna look cool, say less and then leave your words on their own. You don't need to elaborate for people who don't even want to be convinced.

>>10128623
My man
The DS phat has the best face buttons and d-pad of all time. A shame about those shit shoulder buttons and the fucking retarded placement of the power button.

>>10128738
The shoulder buttons are great! Until they fucking break. Fragile pieces of shit lol. Otherwise the DS Phat is maybe one of the best "controllers" of all time - at least, the best controller that only has SNES buttons, so no triggers, no analogs, etc. Just perfection. *chef kiss*

...amd you can use it to drive your sub too!

>>10128627
>cannot conceive of responding to points that aren't exclusively yours
>>10128647
There is no such thing as winning, only concessions. If someone refuses to elaborate their point or concede to the opposition then I will rub their nose in it like the dog they are. Imagine trying to look cool on the internet. Fucking lol. There is no dignity to be earned here ya micromodding faggot.

I got a DualShock 4 simply because I got a sudden itch for playing late 80s/early 90s arcade games on MAME and maybe a couple of modern metroidvanias and beat em ups (no fighting games so no hyper precision required I guess). I went with that one because It was for sale on a store close to home at a cheap price and I assumed that the official gamepad of a sony console would be better than a knockoff. Did I screw up or is it a solid choice?

>>10129829
In that case, I accept your concession. And I've never heard of them breaking, it was always the hinge up until the DS i .

>>10129889
If it works and you like it, it is good, like that Advantage guy. Bless his misguided obsessive posturing.

>>10129901
If it makes you feel better, enjoy your non sequitur. DS systems are often dropped, especially on their shoulder buttons. It's only inevitable those buttons and the hinge breaks.

>>10129956
The shoulder buttons are fine as long as you aren't a retard (for the phat at least, lite and i shoulders could be rendered useless from dust). The hinge would just give out through general use if you weren't lucky. And many weren't.

>>10130029
I agree that dropping a system is for children and retards. I'd imagine the mildly sparkly plastic would weaken the plastic, but if you treat the thing respectfully you're okay, so long as you're not violently opening and closing the thing it'll be fine. Can't control that plastic mix.

(I found a phat DS in a mountain town thrift store for $5, yes really)

>>10127661
it's just herd mentality and it being cool to hate on it. I have an Pro+ because I needed one that was all matte black and connected to PC, Switch and Android. I wish emulators on Wii had USB controller support so I could use it

I'm looking for a good working controller for The Need for Speed - NFS1 on Win98.
The PSx controllers work well on Win98 out of the box, but with the PS5 i have an odd functionality
>Left/Right is throttle on the left analog.
>Left/Right is steering on the right analog.
You can't remap buttons and when you turn the analog sticks in all directions to the fullest when calibrating, the analogs won't give a 100% signal in the corresponding directions.
That means if you accel, it doesn't switch in the next gear because you can't give full throttle.
A workaround is to not turn 100% in calibration but only 60-70% then you can accel full but only with the left/right axis which is pretty confusing.
Xbox360 won't work properly and the xbox one i didn't try yet

>>10130159
>Left/Right is throttle on the left analog.
>Left/Right is steering on the right analog.
Chad controls

>>10130159

Wecome to trying to play PC games pre-2008 with anything except a mouse, keyboard or joystick.

It's not really about the controller - it's about the software being optimised to only really accept on/off inputs, or potentially joysticks/steering wheels, as developers pretty much just accepted that no one used gamepads on PC gaming. What you're likely seeing there is an analogue stick being seen as a sliding throttle on a joystick, and it doesn't quite go up to 100.

My reccomendations would be:
- you may be able to do a hybrid of keyboard/gamepad functionality for the throttle
- Genuinely, if you want to play pre-2000 games with an analogue stick gamepad and there is a PSX port, you'll want to emulate that. TNFS also has Neo Geo and Saturn versions, they'll be more micropressing dpad type affaird though
- If you emulate on a modern system with DOSBox, you may have some more flexibility on how you can trick the software into accepting buttons as different inputs. A google will give you some options.

ENTER
Seriously, for 2d games at least this is the best I've found.

>>10124984
Garbage

>>10130232
Yeah I like this controller a lot.
Shame the adapter I bought years ago doesn't work on anything past Win7, and a raphnet adapter is like $30.

>>10124984
Even dualshock 1 controllers have better dpads than those pieces of shite.
Go shill somewhere else.

>>10128902
For me, it's the DSI.
Probably the only DS model whose buttons didn't break for me in one way or another and I just love how clicky the buttons are on this specific one.

>>10130240
What’s the purpose of this?

>>10124859
whatever you already have that works with what you're playing on

if buying new, there's options better than first-party. That Hong Kong company sells one with micro switch buttons and hall effect sticks, for $40

i mostly use an 8BitDo Zero 2 for playing on my phablet with a kickstand. it's cute and fits in my purse :3

>>10130240
looks like every controller i've opened?

>>10124859
technically, your mom. she would be the one most likely to limit or 'control' the games of your youth

>>10130232
This is a nice controller although I feel the D-Pad isn't as good as the original Classic Controller's :( The pivot guides it to the diagonals much too easily, feels like I'm always hitting two directions on accident.

>>10130264
>Even dualshock 1
DualShock 1 D-Pad is rough competition to go up against, it's an incredible D-Pad despite not feeling as tactile as some other contenders.

Idk whether to trust modern opinions on 8bitdo devices. I've been burned before by their shit D-Pads, but now I've been told they've improved. Too hesitant to try again.

N64 controller. Its was too ahead of his time and people got filtered, but it's the definitive controller for any kind of game.

>>10130624
Personally I never had any of the problems people seem to have with their controllers such as fake diagonals. The d-pad is stiff, sure, but you get used to it, I've heard people say the SNES d-pad was also stiff and all 8bitdo does is copy the SNES d-pad but I never actually held a SNES pad so I can't say.

Anyone can recommend me a controller for the xbox with a good d pad?
I play doa but the original controller d pads are trash and diagonals never work

>>10130624
Why would you give money to a company that has already given you a shit product? It's apparent they don't care about QC since they've been shipping out shoddy shit for years. You guys are retards sometimes

>>10130269
>For me, it's the DSI.
The DSlite and DSi raped absolutely every single fucking thing that was good about the DS phat to chase Apple/Wii aesthetics and is the most normie of the normie handhelds bought. Every single detail about the DSlite and DSi outside of its aesthetic appearance is absolute dogshit compared to the og DS phat. Even the fucking volume slider on theses pieces of shit are worse.

>>10130807
>volume slider
The DSI uses + and - buttons that are a lot more fool proof than the sliders from the previous models. Its screen is also easily the best of the DS line considering how it has a proper backlight and no ghosting like the shitty lite screen.
It's been a while since I've used an original DS but I can say with utmost certainty that the only thing the lite does better than the DSI is having a GBA-slot.

>>10130624
>DualShock 1 D-Pad is rough competition to go up against, it's an incredible D-Pad despite not feeling as tactile as some other contenders.
I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that the Dualshock 2 d-pad feels better in every way despite appearing identical externally. The DS1's d-pad is just too stiff and unresponsive imo.

>>10125302
>convex
The three main buttons on a Mega Drive controller are concave.

>>10126968
Why?

>>10124912
BlueRetro is the way to go.

>>10128639
The only microswitches in the Series controllers are the shoulders. The d-pad still uses dome switches except metal instead of silicone.
>sharp
You use it like a Sega d-pad. Keep the meat your thumb pressed in the middle and rock it kind of like an analog stick.
The real problem with the Series controllers is buttons dropping inputs (see picrel)

>>10126708
The Xbox og does have pressure sensitive buttons, what the fuck are you on about anon

>>10131687
Alignment

>>10131838
But why is it visible? They could have put something on the inside of the casing instead.

>>10132279
It's already a thin shell, and that would be more expensive for machining.

>>10131596
>The DSI uses + and - buttons
That's even fucking worse than a volume slider, with the best being a volume wheel.

>>10131687
>>10132279
>Literal zoomer is actually confused on why technology wasn't always aesthetically flawless for his modern tastes

>>10131687
Do you not know how manufacturing used to work?

>>10131813
>The Xbox og does have pressure sensitive buttons, what the fuck are you on about anon

>>10131813
>The Xbox og does have pressure sensitive buttons, what the fuck are you on about anon
Yes it does.
Even fewer games used it than the PS2, but it does have them. MGS2 uses them.

>>10133259
What's this thing supposed to represent?

>>10133350
>Yes it does.
Yes, that's what I said, anon.

>>10125235
I feel like that would be too small of a controller for my 6 year old.

>>10125186
>>10125661
>>10125186
>>10125484
I got memed into buying a saturn controller and so far I don't like it, the button placement seems awkward, the controller doesn't seem to fit right, the L/R also feel out of place

I can plug my headphones into it
:D

>>10125316
git gud fgt, works with my machine

>>10135265
jsyk wwmm is lazy programmer jargon and isn't something to brag about (lurk moar)

>>10124859
>>10124874
Here's my current line-up.

>Razer Raion
This is my go-to pad for Genesis, PC Engine, and SHMUPs. While the marketing material emphasizes on being able to use it on your lap like an arcade stick, it's actually a very good controller to grip. I do play fightans and brawlans on it, but I have an arcade stick that I prefer to use unless the game is console kusoge like Advanced Variable Geo, Mobile Suit Gundam Battle Assault, or Asuka 100%. What keeps this controller from being perfect is the loud clicky dpad (at night) and the face buttons have some travel to them in order to register an input which makes it unoptimal for players who like to pull off frame perfect inputs. Another concern is that you can easily confuse your placement on the facebuttons because they are the same size and there is no indication for your thumb to realize it's not back to "neutral". Otherwise, the dpad is suprisingly precise and you can comfortably rub in your inputs if you're that type of player.

>SCPH-1080
This is the most versatile controller for almost any game that can be played exclusively on a dpad. I strongly recommend it for players who glide their thumb in precise motions rather than rub in the inputs in order to make the best of it's precision. The shell is built really tight so the buttons have little to no button travel which is my current concern with the Razer Raion face buttons. I really wish Sony would let someone manufacture more of these but with native XInput (aka PC).

>>10124859
The controller the game in question was designed around, or the controller designed around the game.

I like using my ps3 controller for 2D games.

I still have not found a controller in existence with a better d-pad than the original SNES, however I want a controller with modern two sets of L/R triggers/buttons and the additional features of analog stick clicks so I have better access to meta features in my gaming software.

tldr I used a Hori Fighting Commander and it's ok, but not great. I despise those two "extra" face buttons that are NOT REAL BUTTONS, just combination buttons of another button+shoulder trigger. Fuck that, I need unique functionality.

>>10125121
Is this a reportable post? (I am not announcing a report, just asking a question).

>>10136687
That left one holy fucking shit is your right thumb alright?

>>10127661
>What's the problem with 8bitdo?
They're garbage. How much elaboration do you need? Shitty d-pad, shitty buttons, fails the Contra test, wasted build effort on shitty irrelevant things like glowing LED lights instead of improving the contacts and rigidity. It's just junk.

>>10130148
>herd mentality
Congratulations on your projection.

>>10138228
>fails the Contra test
I've never seen Russ this mad

>>10124859
The ideal controller. You might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>10126702
Pressure sensitivity has been and will always be a useless gimmick. Even Sony dropped it after two consoles.

>>10138235
I don't know or care who your eceleb is.
Contra test has been around for decades. 8bitdo controllers are garbage. Cry some more about it, whine about "herd mentality" some more because everyone thinks your favorite shilled piece of plastic garbage is ass.

>>10138315
>II B I A

>>10138315
>You know the seal of quality is a sun, right?
Where is the select button?
Looks like some cheap chink knockoff bullshit

>>10138349
A real snes controller also fails the contra test.
I Already mentioned this in the other thread but how handicapped do you have to be to do false diagonals on this.

>>10138228
works on my machine and they feel pretty good. do you mind replying to this other anon >>10138418 ? It's been 10 hours already and no answer and I'm guessing he got no answer in the past thread

>>10138416
>doesn't recognize the fucking awesome NeGcon

you've gotta go back

nearly 200 posts and nobody has posted this yet? it's the absolute best controller for anything 2d

>>10139623
NeGcon seems so fun. Are the buttons good on them?