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Spells in old games were more interesting.

In Ultima 7 you could clone any living being many times. Including major characters like Lord British.
Other spells let you stop time, kill everyone onscreen, interact with things at a distance even through walls, view the entire world from where you stand and more. You can even cast a spell that will kill everyone in the world but you.

What are other games that had interesting spells?

>> No.10096265
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>>10095485
Lord British, Batlin, and I think the Time Lord survives the Armageddon spell. Maybe that mage that sealed herself from going mad too, I didn't explore that much after messing with it. Lord British could only be killed with the Forge of Virtue DLC installed using the blackrock sword infused with the daemon, and it is somewhat scripted.

>> No.10096328

Necroma in megaten games let you turn your dead demons into zombies.

>> No.10096447

>>10096265
>Lord British could only be killed with the Forge of Virtue DLC installed using the blackrock sword infused with the daemon
There's one other way to kill Lord British: Every day at noon he'll stand under a plaque outside the throne room, if you read the plaque while he's doing this it'll fall and behead him. It's a reference to an incident where Richard Garriott was hit in the head by a piece of metal at the Origin office building and had to go to the hospital.

>> No.10097197

I tested a few things out with Armageddon. Lord British and Batlin survive. It doesn't look like the mad mage (Penumbra) survives. Maybe there is some condition where your progress the quest to wake her up to the right point and she will survive. I wanted to see what would happen if you activated the endings after Armageddon because Lord British says that the Guardian would have no reason to invade Britannia anymore. The ending where you leave without destroying the black gate plays out normally. The ending where you destroy the black gate has an issue where the final cutscene does not play but eventually you make it to the main menu. At least in exult with my settings.

>>10096265
>snes version
Having a physical copy of the snes version is cool but is it worth playing?
When you first started playing Ultima what was your approach to figuring out the runic alphabet? I don't think many people in the 90s had a resource about them and if I remember right only Ulitma V came with a guide. It wouldn't be hard to figure out which runic symbol equates to a letter if you solve it like a cryptogram. I just looked up a key when I first played. I wish I didn't though. My play though was mostly blind and I had a lot of fun.
Also since you have an original copy of the game do you also have hardware from the same time period?

>> No.10097338

>>10095485
Morrowind was pretty OP at the time with it spellmaking game breaking designs... Enchanting the NPCs, you could move them all around.. Permanently :)

>> No.10097431

Childhood is preferring the PC version. Adulthood is accepting that the SNES version is the best after all.

>> No.10097651

>>10097431
What's good about the snes version? I've haven't played it myself. I wrote it off as a bad port. Could be completely wrong.

>> No.10097729

>>10097651
It's really bad
https://wiki.ultimacodex.com/wiki/SNES-port_of_Ultima_VII

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>>10095485
I remember in Serpent Isle there was a woman who had sex spells like ones that makes clothes disappear, but I don't remember if that was one in the book to use.

>>10096447
I had no idea. While I have noticed him hanging out in the courtyard/central garden fountain often, I never suspected such an event.

>>10097197
I have not played the SNES version. I honestly got it because I love the cover to the game. One of the things I loved about getting The Black Gate on PC was that the manual was an actual book in the game. While in-game the Fellowship book had the first few pages, the one in the box continues on about the world like the runes, magic, and bestiary. So the experience was enhanced with items outside of the game as well as the game itself. It also included a cloth map and oddly shaped marble intended to be the mystic orb, both of which were in the intro. Later editions supposedly had a fellowship coin or medallion instead of the mystic orb. I originally played the game on a 386DX-40 at the same time I was experiencing US SNES Final Fantasy 2 so I really grew to love RPGs. I no longer have a 386DX-40, but instead a 486DX4-100 and a Pentium MMX 166 which are a bit past the time period.