/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10079174
Now this is the level of delusion I can get behind kek

>Everyone said that the PS1 and Saturn were the upper limites of what the DE-10 could handle. What state the N64 core(s) launch in is still unknown.
<you are here>

>>10079270
It's FPGA it's going to shit all over whatever emulator retards are lying to themselves about right now.

>>10079174
I don't get the point of Mister. I thought it was an exact copy of a console, but it still has all the game by game bugs and inaccuracies that you see with emulators.
For example here's a youtube channel where the guy talks about what games work and don't work, how buggy they are, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCV38V20Ok

>>10079174
The update_all_vll hasn't given me N64 yet. The PS2/GC/Xbox isos will be massive and the 1TB microSD cards are already unaffordable at this time.

>>10079490
Anon even the SNES core has significant chunks of features removed for it to physically fit.
>>10079174
This is so delusional. But even at launch it was thought that PS1/N64 were the upper limits of what was possible. And that NES/80s computers were the limit of accuracy. And that’s held pretty true. Mister is great for arcade games and 80s stuff. It’s OK for early 90s stuff with significant compromises. The DE-10 is just too lacking currently.

>>10079490
emuchads are playing gen 6 and 7 games at 4k 60 while mistersister still 41%'s itself trying to run panzer dragoon saga

>>10079501
Saturn core is still in development. There isn't a stable build yet.

>>10079174
>>10079270
what kind of gay retarded shilling is this? Seriously why are you so autistic about this? The creator of the N64 core itself said it might not be feasible, Saturn is getting close to finished but still can't play a lot of commercial games and lacks audio on a lot of them. MiSTer is a passion project it's not meant to replace emulation.

>>10079531
it's because N64 is in extremely early development. It just ran its first commercial game ever which is just an atari collection. It won't be able to run commercial games for years if ever on the DE-10. It's being built more so that there's an FPGA implementation to port to something more powerful later on.

>>10079174
I got to try a MiSTer at my friend's house when someone brought it over last weekend. I don't know how to explain it but it feels like you're playing a raw game like there's nothing to it. It made a lot of games feel easy to beat.

>>10079531
> 1TB microSD cards are already unaffordable at this time.
what?

Mister really does run better than emulators, officially emulated discs. I'll play a game like final fight on capcom Belt collection, then I'll play it on an emulator like FB, and then I'll play it on a Mister and I always so better on the mister. I know this answer is unsatisfactory to the anti mister crowd, but it's true. Other than original hardware this is the way to do it.

>>10079736
Commercial emulation and FB which is designed to run fast, not accurately isn't the best comparisson really.

>all development is on intel meme platforms instead of AMD Xilinx because of muh cost
Why are retro gamers willing to spend thousands on meme games and CRTs but refuse to pony up a thousand dollars or so for one of AMD’s quality FPGAs so they can finally work up to GameCube and Dreamcast?

>>10079760
Because that money buys you the real thing.

>>10079760
That will probably happen after the MisterX project matures. There is zero reason to seek more powerful hardware until devs have reached the limit of the DE10 Nano.

Give it to me straight. Should I buy a Mister?
Also, will I as a cheesebrain idiot even be able to set it up properly?

>>10079778
Anon we’ve been reached the limits with the snes. Even Snes/Genesis or similar cores are chopped down to work. Not much else can physically fit

>>10079174
I love the MiSTer and advocate for it, but there is no absolute way in fuck it will do Dreamcast or later.

Even when the best it could do was SNES I was holding out hope for PS1 or N64 someday, but the N64 is still not 100% guaranteed and will have to make some exemptions to be pulled off. There is no fucking way in hell it's doing DC or PS2 or anything after with the Cyclone V chip.

Also, CPS3 is being looked into, but it's far from even having an alpha test core yet. I am quite certain it can handle CPS3, but there is almost no work of even a tiny fragment of CPS3 code running on a MiSTer yet.

>>10079270
Pretty much this. I have faith though that Robert can pull it off, he's worked miracles on the MiSTer before. His expectations was to have at least one retail game booting in a playable state by Christmas, and he managed to get his first retail game running about a week ago.

>>10079501
>I don't get the point of Mister. I thought it was an exact copy of a console, but it still has all the game by game bugs and inaccuracies that you see with emulators.

Errr no, no it doesn't.

>For example here's a youtube channel where the guy talks about what games work and don't work, how buggy they are, etc.

Yes, that's for a core that's still in development.

Here is that same channel talking about how an alpha core that was just barely started at the time was emulating the game more accurately than MAME who had supported the game for over a decade:

https://youtu.be/DAz08nzwWt8?t=130

>>10079535
>This is so delusional. But even at launch it was thought that PS1/N64 were the upper limits of what was possible.

No, no it wasn't, SNES was considered it's limit. I remember as early as 2020 when I was in MiSTer groups talking about the possibility of anything 5th gen and everyone basically said it had zero chance of ever happening. Nobody thought it could do PS1 and especially not N64 from the start.

>>10079889
>and he managed to get his first retail game running about a week ago.
Not downplaying the progrees but it's a game that doesn't rely on the GPU or any of the funky VI filtering at all, not really representative of a "proper" game running.
>and everyone basically said it had zero chance of ever happening
Everyone being non core developers who know nothing about what the hardware is capable of, none of that type of forum speculation means a thing. Also Laxer3A started his work on the now aborted PS1 core in 2019 so I dont believe people in 2020 would be saying 5th gen was impossible.

>>10079945
>Not downplaying the progrees but it's a game that doesn't rely on the GPU or any of the funky VI filtering at all, not really representative of a "proper" game running.

Just about all of these breakthroughs tend to start with a game like that. Of course full 3D games aren't working yet, there is very little work done on the GPU or even sound right now because you need the CPU working first. When Robert said he was hoping to get the first game running by Christmas, he didn't mean something like Conker, or even Mario64.

>Everyone being non core developers who know nothing about what the hardware is capable of

You seriously think there wasn't a lot of MiSTer core devs in those places as well? It wasn't just a bunch of idiots like you all going "Oh yeah, it's impossible" just because. I directly spoke with the person who eventually made the PS1 core multipole times there.

>Also Laxer3A started his work on the now aborted PS1 core in 2019 so I dont believe people in 2020 would be saying 5th gen was impossible.

So a person attempted a PS1 core and it was abandoned without getting anywhere.... and you believe somehow this would make people LESS likely to think it's impossible?

>>10079535
Be specific anon, what was cut from SNES?

>>10079174
my 10 year old laptop already handles all of those

>>10079174
Out of those you listed only the SNES and Neo Geo are able to say they are better than emulation in some ways.

PS1 and Saturn cores on Mister are just bonus features that are convenient to play on the little portable box, but perform worse than software emulation.

>>10080037
>only the SNES and Neo Geo are able to say they are better than emulation in some ways.
Huh? I thought that bsnes solved that platform years ago.

>>10079756
FBN is extremely accurate when it comes to CPS1/2/3 and Neo Geo.

Anon is experiencing the placebo effect.

>>10079501
Every thread you say the same thing. You're addicted and refuse to read any post that has a (YOU) in it.

>>10079963
>I directly spoke with the person who eventually made the PS1 core multipole times there.
Show me the posts from core devs saying it was impossible.
>and you believe somehow this would make people LESS likely to think it's impossible?
Yes. It was halted becuase Laxer3A wasnt capable of putting it together with their abilities, not because it was impossible. Footage was posted in 2020 showing Ridge Racer running, so I don't believe people would still be saying it was impossible having seen it, that doesn't make sense does it?

>>10079174
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>>10080047
Which is why the FPGA implementation is able to be so good. It gives you the accuracy from the software emulator without the operating system getting in the way.
But at the same time the benefits are extremely diminished because the software side is just that complete.

And you know what? This will probably *always* be true with the Mister cores. The only way you can get a great FPGA core is by first writing a great software emulator.
*Maybe* at some point emulator developers will start to focus on FPGA as the primary platform over software but that is a long ways off.

>>10080037
>Neo Geo
Still got plenty of issues with that one.

https://github.com/gyurco/NeoGeo_FPGA/commit/b49368f4a7c614f2983e97e89f260360586905be

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/NeoGeo_MiSTer/issues

>>10080064
>Show me the posts from core devs saying it was impossible

Unfortunately that shitshow known as Discord makes it a pain to get old information like that.

>Footage was posted in 2020 showing Ridge Racer running, so I don't believe people would still be saying it was impossible having seen it, that doesn't make sense does it?

An example of one game barely running does not mean every game would have been possible. Having seen one game barely function then be abandoned if anything would have made people more likely to think it's impossible. You clearly did not frequent any forums or channels of MiSTer discussion back in the day if you think people always argued it could hit up to N64 from the start.

>>10080069
Congratulations, you are literally worse than the Flogan Bros spammer and I setup my script to auto-ignore your gradeschool level copypasta spam from now on.

>>10080089
>Having seen one game barely function then be abandoned if anything would have made people more likely to think it's impossible.
No, because he only abandoned it AFTER Robert has started his core and was making rapid progress. In 2020 no one was saying PS1 was impossible, it was on the way and Saturn was considered popssible too. N64 is a defferent thing altogether, we still don't really know how that will go.

>>10080116
>In 2020 no one was saying PS1 was impossible

As I said, you clearly were not around any of those places because people most definitely were. To claim that people from the start though the MiSTer could do 5th gen is asinine.

>>10080142
>As I said, you clearly were not around any of those places because people most definitely were.
I was. They weren't.
>>10080142
>To claim that people from the start though the MiSTer could do 5th gen is asinine.
Not from the start, from 2020.

>>10080158
>I was. They weren't.

I was too, and they did.

>Not from the start, from 2020

People definitely still stated that early 2020 before Roberto started working on it

>>10080175
>People
Like who? Name the core devs, actually produce somthing, anything to back up your claim or stfu.

>>10080190
You mean like how all of your arguments have been "trust me bro"?

Can't wait for the Dreamcast core. Any day now.

>>10079623
That's pretty great. The recent Atari collection seems to be pretty well received from what I've heard. I'd hope there's room to implement all the de-blur options that the UltraHDMI has for Mischief Makers fun.

>>10079724
On Amazon, the non-Team Group microSD cards are over an eye watering $100USD even prior to taxes. With PS2/GC/Xbox isos, that may need 2TB or greater which will likely be even more outrageous in price.

>>10080082
Seems like it’s mostly people not understanding the file system or what Roms the mister wants and unoptimized hacks not working correctly

>>10079174
you are insane if you think it will ever handle 6th gen

>>10080082
Your first link concern Mist not Mister, it's not the same project, not the same fpga board
Your second link concern more request and mistakes made by people seeking help, doesn't show plenty of issues with the core, actually you just proved the opposite

Stability and reliability is the forte of FPGA, it is optimized until it works like a clock forever. You will not get all the bugs introduced with new hardware from your PC, even for something as plugging a new controller MISTer handles it better than my high end PC

>>10082303
>even for something as plugging a new controller MISTer handles it better than my high end PC
Isn't that handled by linux on the arm side?

>>10082309
No idea what is really handling it, I tried at least 10 different controllers and also one Qanba arcade stick (ps3/pc) the only thing I had to do after plugging it was to map buttons and you do it only once, I wish it went that smoothly on PC every time too...

>>10079501
>For example here's a youtube channel where the guy talks about what games work and don't work, how buggy they are, etc.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCV38V20Ok

Fuck off with self-promoting your YouTube channel. You think we don't recognize its you? I've seen your shameless promotions on other websites, forums, discord channels, and social media accounts. You make a bunch of accounts, and spam your video links everywhere. You do this almost every day.

Your videos are lame. Your English is bad. You can't narrate for shit. AI is better than you. Your videos are cheaply made, and you will never be a big time successful YouTuber. Even Reddit has banned you from several subreddits because you spam your channel everywhere. I laugh at your garbage channel.

>>10079889
>Here is that same channel talking about how an alpha core that was just barely started at the time was emulating the game more accurately than MAME who had supported the game for over a decade:
Shut up Anthony

>>10083787
>new Saturn beta comes out
Hey guys it's ya boy it's time to play Panzer Dragoon it's almost kind of playable but I'm super excited for the final release be sure to smash that like button
Hey guys it's ya boy it's time to play Daytona USA it's almost kind of playable but I'm super excited for the final release be sure to smash that like button
>new Saturn beta comes out
Hey guys it's ya boy it's time to play Panzer Dragoon it's almost kind of playable but I'm super excited for the final release be sure to smash that like button
Hey guys it's ya boy it's time to play Daytona USA it's almost kind of playable but I'm super excited for the final release be sure to smash that like button
>new Saturn beta comes out

>>10079174
These were all statements by the people who make those cores.

>>10083815

Don't forget:

>video needs to be at least 10 minutes long for maximum access to advertiser revenue and money.

Hey guyz its ya boy. I really like the music in this game. Here 3 minutes of pure audio so you can appreciate the music. Then I'll spend another shameless 3 minutes talking about the music telling you why its great. Be sure to smash that like button.

>new update gets released.

Hey guyz its ya boy. I really like the music in this game update. Here 3 minutes of pure audio so you can appreciate the music. Then I'll spend another shameless 3 minutes talking about the music telling you why its great. Be sure to smash that like button.

>>10083787
I actually tried to offer polite suggestions for him to improve his videos. He deleted my comments. Stupid coward. Lmao.

>>10083787
>>10083809
Say that to my face not online motherfucker see what happens

>>10083787
Damn. I didn't notice but thanks for pointing it out. I thought that YouTuber wouldn't post on 4chan. He's infiltrated every other retro site I go on. I guess he's infiltrated 4chan too, and he's pretending to to be some anon here that suggests his own channel in discussions.

>>10083848
I've seen pictures of you, and heard you talk. I have nothing to worry about.

>>10079531
You can plug in as many USB drives as you like.

https://youtu.be/Lz5TINR694U

>>10084158
Stop posting videos from this faggot.

>>10079623
>Saturn is getting close to finished
>but still can't play a lot of commercial games and lacks audio on a lot of them.
Wow, you're really brainwashed... Thats actually a little sad

>>10079174
>the mister will never handle SNES
>the mister will never handle Neo-Geo
>the mister will never handle CPS3
>the mister will never handle PS1
>the mister will never handle Saturn
Cost 500 usd
>the mister will never handle N64
Cost idk 2000 usd? Btw you can't buy n64 version, you should build it yourself.

>>10084304
Idiot. Quit saying words.

>>10084462
2D isn't an issue. Plenty of cheapo electronics can emulate or run old 2D games. We've always known that.

Show me when they can do 3D games.

The cracks show when they hit Sega Saturn/Playstation 1/N64. Lag, slowdown, or graphical issues. Then it crumbles apart when it hits Dreamcast with serious lag.

Every. single. Time.

>>10084297
>>10084304
>>10084476

>>10084556
Listen anon. It's basically an all-in-one emulation box. It helps you save space. Stop making it out to be more than it is.

>>10084297
I won't stop posting his videos, but can you tell me why I should?

>>10083809
Not him, retard. Not hard to run into his videos when you are trying to look up MiSTer stuff and he pretty much spams his channel with videos about it almost every day. I could do without those useless "How to setup an emulator for (system) on the Steam Deck" videos however since it's not as if he covers any other software emulators on his channel outside of running them on a Steam Deck. would be nice if he at least also talked about MAME news since he mostly focuses on arcade stuff.

I tried to find other channels but most are months or over a year old and just "I just got a MiSTer, let's see what it's link" type videos rather than news about core progress. The only other channel I was able to find that talks about MiSTer progress is one called Lu's Retro Source, but it tends to be a few days behind the same news the Esoterica guy talks about.

If you know others I would love to hear about them.

>>10084297
Only if you stop samefagging so hard because you have a hateboner for that guy for some reason.

>>10084462
>>the mister will never handle N64
>Cost idk 2000 usd? Btw you can't buy n64 version, you should build it yourself.

... what? It's already progressing on N64 rapidly. It's not a 100% guarantee it will work out in the end but right now the chances are very high, like 90% at the minimum. Maybe if you wanted to argue Dreamcast or PS2 FPGA emulation that would be a valid argument.

>>10079174
Can't wait, thought alone makes me comfy. Do you think they will do ps3 and xbox 360 after that? Or would that be too much for the mister?

>>10085117
The power of the mister is unmatched.

>>10084908
Resentful poorfags hate anyone making money and by sharing his videos you help him do that. They could make AI voiced videos faster than he does covering updates but won't so are lashing out instead. I don't think his videos are particularily good but it is them or nothing since you can't really see how cores are progressing without the video medium.

>>10085054
I currently have these in my MiSTer rotation:
>Video Game Esoterica
>Lu's Retro Source
>Pixel Cherry Ninja

Yeah, there are not that many people making presentable videos about the MiSTer. There are people uploading infrequent playtests of games on the MiSTer though.

>>10084462
>the mister will never handle N64
MiSTer is the name of the project, it would be more accurate to say:
>the DE-10 Nano will never handle N64
And it never will. The work being done with the MiSTer core is to lay the groundwork so that someone in the far distant future has an accurate foundation and finish it off on a much more capable FPGA.

>>10085209
>Do you think they will do ps3 and xbox 360 after that?
Not in our lifetime. It will take decades to reverse engineer those platforms. While it is easier to just base the FPGA core on the emulators, it will be a temporary solution.

>>10085224
I remember there was some guy that had his retro channel combined with some liquor/drinking tips. I thought it was going to be interesting but it was cringy as fuck. But for some reason, I haven't found the video, maybe he deleted it.

>>10079174
The N64 core would be "cheating". I believe it will mostly use the ARM cpu and do some stuff in the FPGA side. Honestly, I don't give a shit. When I bought it, they were telling it was going to be replication of the system but now that I have been using it, it is emulation, hardware emulation instead of software emulation. It is good, it is really good but still emulation, but for me it is enough, it plays on my crt tv without lag.

Anyways, for n64, if it plays the usual popular stuff and heavy to emulate like Goldeneye, then I will give the n64 to one of my nephews and only use the Mister

>>10085287
FPGAfags have already accepted this compromise as soon as 5th gen cores showed up on the scene.
The accuracy thing always was a meme, software emulators for popular platforms are already highly accurate and more obscure shit is getting better too as a result of ported fixes from MiSTer.
The low latency thing is honestly the USP of the project at this point.

>>10085298
This reads as someone who can't afford one justfying to themselves that they don't want one.

>>10085310
This reads like someone coping with their purchase after finding it didn't deliver on certain earlier promises.

>>10085319
I lost 400k gambling on shitcoins last year. The price of the Mister doesn't really register compared to that.

>>10085336
RIP I guess. Either way the point stands. Low latency and SNAC are what makes MiSTer special. If you buy one it should be for that.

>>10085287
>it was going to be replication of the system
that is what hardware emulation means

>>10085224
>Video Game Esoterica
Terrible channel. You just lost my respect. Ewww.

>>10085224
>Video Game Esoterica
Great channel. You just earned my respect. Nice.

>>10079987
You think people would do that? Just lie on the internet?

>>10085926
Stop promoting your channel here Anthony. You already ruined your reputation on Reddit and a bunch of game sites by spamming your channel. That's now how you get more subs. Stop arguing with your viewers too. They tried to offer you suggestions to improve your videos and you argued with them saying they were wrong. You even delete nice comments you don't like. You will never get 100k subs and be big time gaming YouTuber. You've been at it almost 7 years. It's not happening. Get a real job.

Kek, the amount of seethers in this thread. Love my Mister

>>10085938
Imagine being such a schizo that everywhere you look you think you see the esoterica guy. It's like that guy who looks at computers and sees food.

>>10086023
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>>10079174
>the mister will never handle SNES
Who the fuck ever said that?
Stop making shit up.

>>10086039
>Imagine being such a schizo that everywhere you look you think you see the esoterica guy.
This post just shows how out of the loop you are. I'm only going to type this out once.

You just do not get it. The guy has like 50 to 100 accounts for almost every major gaming website or social media group. He makes a new video every single day. Then spends his ENTIRE day spamming his new video on around 40+ different gaming websites. Not even joking. Every single day. It is bizarre.

I'm apart of several gaming sites, and he's there spamming links. The guy had been banned multiple times by mods, and he makes multiple accounts. Some Forums have made new rules banning anyone who posts his links.

Dude will samefag and sockpuppet multiple accounts. Even use a VPN to bypass bans. Even Reddit banned him for spamming. I can't even browse some older gaming websites now because he discovered it, and then spammed his videos all over the forum. They fill up the forum now, and the mods are only semi-active and can't delete his shit all the time or keep up with his new accounts. The guy is driven by pure autism to spam his videos everywhere. I don't know what drives a person to dedicate his life to doing this. But It's all he does. He has no life beyond his YouTube channel and spamming it.

>>10086128
Its funny cause his videos aren't even that good. Its just him reading from a script with his nasally voice with 10 minutes of unedited gameplay footage. Then him begging for for subscribers.

>>10086128
If I ever see his channel getting posted here I automatically just assume it's him. I don't care if I'm wrong. His spam is disgusting.

>>10086128
>This guy is totally creating hundreds of accounts and using VPNs and bypasses JUST to keep spamming his videos everywhere!

Yeah, this TOTALLY does not sound like something a schizo who just sees this guy in everything they look at would say. Taken a bite out of your computer yet?

>>10086128
Lol how would he possibly have time to do that all day. I am way too busy making videos.

>>10079174
Yeah, by that logic it's also only a matter of time for PS3/X360 on MiSTer

>>10080070
The retarded part of all of this is you could literally take an existing good emulator (something at the level of bsnes, properly accurate emulation) port it into a raw x64 bootloader, install it into a old laptop as replacement for the OS and voila, you now have a console equivalent that runs in exclusive mode without Windows or Linux interfering.

Every console pre-Dreacast can be done by just blit raw pixels on the cpu, which is literally the first lesson of making your own mini OS / exclusive app.

All this shit playing around with FPGAs is just autistic guys playing around. It’s cool and all but solves pratically no real problem.

I honestly feel bad for someone who is either too poor to afford a MiSTer or has painted themselves into a corner with cope that a Wii or RPi is a suitable alternative.

You really are missing out.

>>10086660
> solves pratically no real problem.
https://www.google.com/search?q=fpga+replacement+parts+commodore

>>10086660
>and voila, you now have a console equivalent that runs in exclusive mode without Windows or Linux interfering.

Just about all of those emulators rely on multiple OS functions and APIs, so no, you can't just port it as a "raw x64 bootloader" and like magic it's a console. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and are literally making up crap.

>>10080069
>Game park 32
Gp32 is the colloquial term and thank you for putting it in a reasonable position, though it's final caanoo incarnation would probably better hold the position you gave it. The caanoo came out in 2010 and had a fairly good PS1 emulator. It's got a lot of ports and emulators that run really well. I'd say it's still a contender as a gate keeper for the handheld market. If your chink clone crap can't do better than the caanoo, it's not worth the plastic it's cased in.

>>10085298
Even 100% accurate software emulation is reduced to shit when it has to be output via standard pc audio and video hardware. You can't code your way around hardware limitations. So the best part about fpga, is not the emulation itself, but rather the superior zero latency perfectly synchronized audio/video output

>>10086867
Exactly. With software emulation you have to be jumping through hoops and it can't ever be as good as FPGA regarding perfect audio/video sync at the correct refresh rates. FPGA just fucking works and I get to spend more time playing games instead of messing with Retroarch.

>>10079174
>Its safe to say at this point that its only a matter of time
Until all the Mister owners tie a noose and off themselves? Because looking at the main demographic that bought the overpriced emulation machine, I'm worried all but a minute fraction of owners will be dead in half a decade or less.

>>10086929
idk man I workout regularly and eat pretty healthy.

>>10086929
Why do you think people that play old games want to kill themselves?

>>10086929
I paid $250 for mine, overpriced? Get a job kid.

>>10086867
Zero content post. You're just repeating what I already said.

>>10087003
$250 is overpriced for a machine which emulates fewer consoles than a Pi 4.

>>10079531
financial difficulties

>>10079623
Fixed, also thats a Namco collection.

>>10079174
I love my mister, use it for 8 bit, 16 bit and lately I've been playing around a lot in the Amiga and a0486 cores.
I want to also replace my PlayStation with it but for some reason it feels wrong. Maybe it's needing to open the menu to save or the slight innacuracy (could someone elaborate on this?) since I only have a single ram stick but I just can't seem to want to use it over my xstation or even my ps2 with burned disks.

>>10083787
Holy shit THIS nigger is spamming the board? I constantly got his shit recommended until I told YouTube to fuck off with it, he absolutely SPAMS this low quality slop and it’s always dragged out to hit the ad revenue slot, please fucking kill yourself if you’re reading this and learn to make a proper longform video, you will never be able to quit your day job, you will never be a real YouTuber, etc

>>10087418
>Maybe it's needing to open the menu to save
Consider getting a snac adapter so you can use PSX controllers and memory cards

>>10086773
>Just about all of those emulators rely on multiple OS functions and APIs

Lmao, you never coded an OS or emulator in your life. Dude, all that an emulator does is emulate output, which is sound and video.

I'll concede the sound is not something you can easily output with quality if running at bare level, there's not much in the bios besides the low quality speaker. But video is just a matter of doing a bios call and you get full access to a double buffered video system.

And yes durr hurr, what is playing a game without sound, well, its still than playing in an autistic misterstation

>>10087593
dunning kruger

>>10086098
What is this shit? JFC this is the worst seething I’ve seen in this thread.

>>10087593
>Lmao, you never coded an OS or emulator in your life
Installing a fork of Linux doesn't make you a programmer, kid, I know you used the terminal and everything, but tone it down a bit.

>>10086929
Dude, it’s only $600. What the fuck kinda money is that? You are either young as fuck or seriously fucking retarded. Have you even tested real hardware against a Mister? I can hardly tell a difference when playing in my AES/MVS or whatever retro system to it, especially with an original controller.

>>10079174
You forgot
>the mister will never handle rollback netplay

>>10087593
>Lmao, you never coded an OS or emulator in your life.

Says the person who has clearly never done it if the technobabble they thought was being smart is any indication to go by.

>Dude, all that an emulator does is emulate output, which is sound and video.

I don't even know where to BEGIN with what's wrong with that one. Tell me, how do you think a PS1 emulator outputs 3D instructions to your GPU? Because it sure as fuck is not talking to it bare metal.

>I'll concede the sound is not something you can easily output

Or reading a file system, or memory management, or inpout/output, or video, or just about every aspect that you clearly don't understand shit about.

>>10088138
Not that anon, but you don't need hardware acceleration to make a PS1 emulator. If you want it to be accurate it's probably a good thing if you don't.

>>10087430
>Holy shit THIS nigger is spamming the board? I constantly got his shit recommended until I told YouTube to fuck off with it, he absolutely SPAMS this low quality slop
Yes....he's here unfortunately. I found it suspicious that there were multiple threads on /vr/ recently where his videos were being pushed by random anons. It made no sense with his low subscriber count. I did some basic research and found he pretty much infiltrated nearly every popular video game board and forum. He spams his trash videos. It's all he does every day. He makes a 10 minute slop video, and then spends several hours going through his "list" of video game sites and spamming his video links.

What's worse is the Mister community are so cowardly that they afraid to tell him to fuck off. He's flooded my favorite Mister forums and sites with his videos. And the mods are too lazy to delete his shit. Totally ruined it. Dozens of pages of his posts filling up the mister forum.

>>10088469
>Channel that posts daily about MiSTer stuff

>To the surprise of nobody this tends to get talked about on MiSTer forums

>"OMG it's a psyop! He's definitely using dozens of proxies to somehow by himself spam dozens of times all the time and spending all day doing nothing but spamming! Clearly there is no other explanation for this person who constantly makes videos about MiSTer stuff to be talked about a lot on MiSTer forums!"

Don't give up hope anon, maybe one day someone will make a FPGA core to emulate meds to cure your retardedness. Until then please stop eating your computer.

And no, because I already know you are going to accuse me of it because you think everybody is that guy, I am not the esoterica guy. I just know a schizo when I see one.

>>10088658
Spamming links will not get you more subs. Your channel sucks.

>>10088664

>>10088658
>I am not the esoterica guy.
Press X to Doubt. No one but him would care enough to write a long post defending his channel.

>>10088709
Is this what schizoism does to a person's brain? Thinking 5 sentences is "a long post"? The retard who has a hate-boner for the guy made even longer posts attacking him.

>>10088658
If you are not him, then stop simping for his channel. It's cringe.

If you are him, then I will say your YouTube is shit. You will never be famous. Get a real job.

>>10088813
LGR and Game Sack will like to have a word with you.

>>10088813
>If you are not him, then stop simping for his channel. It's cringe.

And being obsessed with having a hate-boner for him is any less cringe? I am just pointing out your retardation, not simping for the guy.

>>10088739
Hey man, not the guy you're replying to, but incase you are esoterica. I like your channel man. It's good shit.

As a MiSTer Owner. I make it a point to nearly ignore all these threads. In fact nearly any topic of interest or value is ignored on this website. The Jannies have destroyed this website. Enjoy this unending hell.

>>10088843
Not him, I just find the schiozo hate-posting pathetic.

>>10088829
>I am just pointing out your retardation
I am not the original anon who posted the longer rant but I agree with him. Stop simping.

>>10088861
It really is. I try to just ignore these threads all together. Which is really annoying. Having any sense of community here is impossible.

>>10088658
>Channel that posts daily about MiSTer stuff
We don't need DAILY updates on Mister. Any channel that does it is retarded.

>>10088856
I thought you would blame the shitposting, but the jannies? Could you elaborate? I'm new to MiSTer threads. What have they done?

>>10088823
Comparing LGR (a channel with millions of subs) to a channel with 20K subs is a bad joke. Don't insult LGR.

Oh God. I go away for a few hours and come back to see Video Game Esoterica is samefagging now. Here we go with his old routine:

Person A: "Stop insulting Video Game Esoterica! He's not that bad!"

Person B (who just conveniently shows up in the middle of argument) : "Hello. I'm new to this <insert place>. I don't understand the hate he gets?"

Person A: "Ignore the haters Person B! They are crazy. His channel is actually really good. Let me recommend some videos. <insert links>"

Every single time you get insulted by people this is what you do. You've literally been called out by mods on other sites for doing this, and even banned because of it. Cut the crap. We know it's you.

>>10088957
Again, not him. But thank you for demonstrating just how autistic you are by seeing him in every post. Yes, you totally sound like the sane one here thinking he even gives a shit about 4chan of all places and spends 24/7 pretending to be other people to spam his channel.

How about some logic?

The dude has 25K subscribers, that is not a lot. Half of his videos have under 1000 views, which is pathetic, I have posted random videos of me playing some random PS4 game with no commentary for 5 minutes got that more views than that and I am a complete random nobody. Some of his higher viewed ones are barely breaking 2-3K.

So in other words, he must be making jack shit off of his channel.

Yet, he has hundreds of arcade boards and all sorts of other retro hardware, each one can cost hundreds if not thousands. And if he isn't making money off his YouTube channel, that must mean he has a job to afford all that shit.

So this is someone who works a job and does a video every day, some of them longplays of games.... yet, somehow he also has enough time every day to use dozens of proxies to impersonate others so he can spam his channel? And engage in arguments on 4chan of all places for hours?

Or maybe, just maybe, since he posts daily videos about MiSTer that means in forums and other places dedicated to talking about MiSTer are likely to bring up his videos along with others and he's not some superhuman that works a job while also running his daily YouTube channel yet somehow has time to samefag all day across dozens of websites using hundreds of proxies.

No, that's can't possibly be it right? Clearly I am him, and that other anon is him, and that other anon is him, and you are him, and we are him, and he is legion. CLEARLY it MUST be him samefagging with proxies JUST to argue on 4chan, and you are totally not a retarded braindead autistic schizo seeing him everywhere and insisting you are not the crazy one as you take another bite out of your monitor.

>>10088986
>somehow he also has enough time every day to use dozens of proxies to impersonate others so he can spam his channel?

This isn't a debate or conspiracy anon. He has multiple accounts and spams them all over game websites. You can find people all over complaining about him. Even the some Mister sites complain about his spam.

You spent more time writing your essay ranting with an uninformed opinion..... than actually checking to see if people are right.

>>10088986
Did you actually check to see if what people were saying about him spamming was true or not? Yes or No.

>>10089021
>This isn't a debate

So you aren't even going to listen to people pointing out how crazy you are, you will insist it's the case because your schizo mind can't comprehend anything else, lovely.

>He has multiple accounts and spams them all over game websites.

Again, look at the logic I posted.

>You can find people all over complaining about him. Even the some Mister sites complain about his spam.

You mean other schizos like you who see him everywhere they look?

>than actually checking to see if people are right.

I actually did check some of the largest MisTEr forums for mentions of him, nearly all of them were just talking about him in general or referencing his videos, not losing their shit like you are insisting on a mass-spam conspiracy. Just to be thorough I checked the posting history of people who talked about him too to see if they were just one of his accounts who just talks about his channel, and they were not, just filled with normal posts.

So I am going to have to conclude that you really are just a schizo who has a hate-boner for the guy and unable to even consider the logic of how it would be impossible for him to have that much time to pull that off.

>>10089041

Why are you even bothering? We know it's him. He'll avoid answering your question and call you crazy. That's what he does.

Gotta love the samefagging, totally not what a schizo would do.

Also gotta love how delusional someone would be to think anyone would bother to shill anything here of all places. I can't think of a place that would have a bigger negative reception to that than here.

Hell, this place is full of idiots who think people are "shilling" the MiSTer, as if that's something you can even shill.

>>10089067
>I actually did check some of the largest MisTEr forums for mentions of him,
This must be trolling. You realize he's not just a Mister YouTuber right? You realize he's trying to be a retro game YouTuber right? Get off whatever niche "Mister forum" you 'claim' to have searched. Go on the big boy sites like Reddit, Facebook, or another big gaming site. Type his name into the search bar, and spend 5 minutes seeing all the complaints about his spam. I am looking at some right now. If you come back here again and 'claim' you can't find anything again, then you are clearly trolling.

>>10089075
Do you think 4chan is some small website that only a handful know about? This is not 2004 anon. Get with the times.

just subscribed to esoterica. gotta respect his grind and the terminal seethe he inculcates in the autists here.

>>10089089
>This must be trolling. You realize he's not just a Mister YouTuber right? You realize he's trying to be a retro game YouTuber right? Get off whatever niche "Mister forum" you 'claim' to have searched.

>Entire topic is about the MiSTer

>Majority of his channel is about the MiSTer

>"N-n-no! I didn't mean MiSTer! Yeah, the very things I claim he does he actually doesn't do on MiSter forums! What do you mean this is Backpedaling?"

>Go on the big boy sites like Reddit, Facebook, or another big gaming site.

.... do you have any idea how hard you just discredited yourself by claiming that Facebook or Reddit are "big boy gaming sites"?

I also did check reddit just for you, you must feel so special. Again, didn't see complaints, in fact, the top result was him doing an AMA in which people seemed to like him. Let me guess, you think he samefagged all of those hundreds of replies in the AMA thread?

>If you come back here again and 'claim' you can't find anything again, then you are clearly trolling.

>"If you point out yet again that I am making shit up and just being retarded I will just claim you are a troll"

Dude, we get it, you're a schizo. You don't have to keep proving it. Now, where is your totally not samefagging friend to defend you again who always seems to post right after you?

These arguments are stupid, post more mister news!

Seems like we will see examples of a few more N64 games running soon according to the guy working on the N64 core.

>>10089110
So what are you going to do if I post screenshots of people complaining about him spamming? Are you going to kneel down and Apologize here in front of everyone?

>>10089164
I am guessing you desperately trying to hunt down edge-cases where someone as schizo as you complained is why you took so long to respond? And tell me, how are you going to respond to the literally hundreds of positive posts about him then, including the AMA where people would have raked him against the coals if he was a known spammer on Reddit? Are you going to claim all of those are just him samefagging?

>>10089164
>So what are you going to do if I post screenshots of people complaining about him spamming?

As if you have any.

>>10089110
I find it hard to believe you didn't find anything. You must be Video Game Esoterica.

>>10089185
You aren't even being a convincing troll anymore at this point

>>10089171
>There are no complaints him, I found nothing! He is clean!
>I have some.
>Uh....Those are edge cases! Doesn't count!
Lmao. Kek.

>>10089174
>As if you have any.
So your final stance is that Video Game Esoterica does NOT spam and no one posts any complaints about him? That he's a good Boi who dindu nuffin? Yes?

>>10089189
When nearly every result from multiple places is positive, yes, they are going to be edge cases, that is, if the schizo ever posts them.

I can only imagine either he has none, or he is artistically scouring every website he can find for any random obscure complaint to make a collage of edge cases that totally isn't a sign of mental illness from having a hate boner that hard for a random YouTuber.

>>10089192
>So your final stance is that Video Game Esoterica does NOT spam and no one posts any complaints about him? That he's a good Boi who dindu nuffin? Yes?

You're saying that. I don't mean he never advertises his channel, but he's not a spammer.

>>10089203
He's clearly trying to put words into your mouth to attempt to pull a "gotcha!" when he posts his edge-case.

It's very obvious what he is doing. This guy kept responding rapidly to everyone who disagreed, and now suddenly he has started barely responding at all after this all "People are not complaining" argument.

This idiot clearly thinks he is clever by trying to scour every example of people complaining about him that he can find and screenshotting into into a collection of images. The fact that he tried to put words into your mouth with >>10089192 makes it obvious as fuck that is exactly what he is doing. He thinks he is going to pull a gotcha by wasting his time screenshotting random responses on random websites and reddit threads and posting it as "proof".... while ignoring that the vast majority of times he is brought up on just about every major website and MiSTer forum people have no problem with him.

Like I said, he's not even a convincing troll, he's a pathetic schizo with a massive hate-boner.

Watch it with the redditdoublespacing you fuckingfaggots. All of you.

>>10089250
No we will not.

You can just fuck off.

When the fuck did people even equate having paragraphs and line spacing as "reddit posting" when that's how people posted in forums year before Reddit even existed?

Not to mention that's just common literacy.

What are you going to do about it?

Cry some more?

>>10089263
>When the fuck did people even equate having paragraphs and line spacing as "reddit posting"
Years and Years ago you fucking newfag.

>>10087164
>assberry poo

Literally the worst way to retro game, absolutely ghetto.

>>10089292
I've been on 4chan longer than you have been alive you little zoom zoom, my point wasn't asking literally when, it was about how stupid it is to act like it's something from reddit.

>>10089263
>>10089301

>>10089307
You're retarded

>>10089312
RoodyPoo

>>10089041
>>10089192
The fpga gaming r*ddit had a rule added entirely because he spammed his shitty videos to the point where it was like half the posts

>>10089320
>Source: Trust Me Bro

That "self promotion" is a standard rule in a large amount of subreddits, it's hardly unique to a single subreddit.

I also love how you felt the need to censor "reddit" like some snowflake on Twitter who censors "st*pid" in case it would offend someone, you retard.

>trolls every mister thread

>>10079174
Is it worth getting a Mister now? I do like the idea of having a 1:1 copy of the consoles, but it’s expensive.

>>10089672
If you can afford it, yes get one you won't regret.

>>10079174
>the mister will never handle SNES
>the mister will never handle Neo-Geo
>the mister will never handle CPS3
>the mister will never handle PS1
>the mister will never handle Saturn
>the mister will never handle N64
<you are here>
>the mister will never handle PS2/GC/Xbox
>the Mister will never handle my balls

>>10089827
>>the Mister will never handle my balls

It can already do Duke Nukem

>>10087418
>slight innacuracy
on a few games the audio will have 1 frame of latency if you dont have two ram modules

>>10088856
do we even have jannies? I recently discovered if you report a post it will delete it instantly without review. may even issue a 3 day ban instantly too but I've not tested

>>10089672
None of the cores are a 1:1 copy of real hardware.

>>10085298
In what ways is the psx core inaccurate?

>>10089941
Highly inaccurate post.

>>10090017
Just like the mister

>>10089320
Yup I remember we didn't need that rule before. Then VGE discovered our sub and he started posting his videos every day.

>>10089334
>Source: Trust Me Bro
Now you are just being a troll. The source is EASILY verifiable. Go on the subreddit yourself. See all the comments are arguments in that thread. It was made by a mod. Got so heated with people angry at VGE spam that mod had to delete comments to cool things down.

>>10089958
The GPU runs faster than real hardware to make up for the MiSTer’s DDR3 latency, this causes bugs in a few games. This can’t be addressed until a more powerful FPGA turns up. CPU emulation inaccuracies mean it drops below 100% speed, this is why Gran Turismo replays desync. FMV playback can have screen tearing with some companies games. All FMV’s have slightly more colour banding compared to real hardware as the MDEC emulation needs more work. Then there are general issues with various games on the GitHub which will have multiple sources that need fixing.

>>10090143
>. CPU emulation inaccuracies mean it drops below 100% speed, this is why Gran Turismo replays desync.
Will this/can this be fixed? This is a disaster.

Here's an idea. Can you fools stop talking about Video Game Esoterica? Stop giving him attention. He's a loser. No one cares about him. He does not matter in the Mister community, and gets some stuff wrong in his videos. So stop mentioning him. Anyone talking about him I will assume is a shill. Now let's move on to other stuff that's more important.

>>10090148
>Will this
He's onto the next core now so nothing is happening anytime soon. It's the same thing with SRG320, he bangs out a load of cores but they move onto the next one so soon that you are then left with bugs that have been outstanding for years. They are more interested in checking off the console core want list than maintaining and fixing what is already out there.

>can this be fixed?
Who knows, could be the result of a lack of hardware knowledge or becuase of how the DE-10 works.

>This is a disaster.
It's unfortunate but PS1 was never going to be perfect, FPGA's arent magic :)

>>10079174
>the mister will never handle snes
It's worse than original hardware so no, it cannot handle snes.

>>10090148
At this point, just keep eye on track for Wiistation, might be able to be fullfilled before.

>>10090290
That’s a developer, not hardware issue.

>>10079174
How many logic gates does mister have

>>10086603
>>10088658
>>10088986
>>10089067
>>10089171
>>10089174
>>10089203
>Video Game Esoterica is not a spammer.
>everyone is lying!
>I search everywhere and found no proof.
>he doesn't have alt accounts.
>no proof!!
>he just a nice good guy who support Mister community
>he don't spam.
>you are all schizos!!!
>he is no spammer.
>no evidence!!
>no proof!
LMAO. KEK.
OK summerfag. Here you go.

Why do misterfags spam this so much? Why do you want me to spend money on this? Shouldn’t you be gatekeeping more? If someone doesn’t want to spend money on new shit and they’re happy with their current setup that should be encouraged. Spending hundreds every couple of weeks for yet another way to play 30 year old games should not.

>>10090516
Man that is just....insane. If vge put as much effort into his videos as he does with his link spam then maybe his videos would suck so bad.

>>10090532
Misterfags do it for the same reason collectorfags do - to show off.

Collectorfags at least can flex with the cost of their hoard. Misterfags think others are impressed by owning something which costs less than a current gen console.

>>10090516

Does this guy think if he spams hard enough that people will sub to him?

>>10090086
>Now you are just being a troll. The source is EASILY verifiable. Go on the subreddit yourself.

I did, just about all the VGE posts on reddit are positive.

>>10090171
It was the schizo with the hate-boner who started complaining and would not shut up about how he's satan incarnate while accusing anyone who did not agree of secretly being him trying to samefag with proxies.

>>10090516
Called it! But wow, I was expecting a bunch of randoh screenshots of images, not a video, you went above and beyond scuizo. Thou art... super schizo.

Though it appears all you did was setup a specific filter to get the exact order of results you wanted then record your phone screen so you go back down to just schizo with a hate-boner.

So a very carefully setup search that shows just posts of his videos is somehow "He spams every site with a hundreds of proxies and everyone hates him"? I am not seeing the hate, other than from you and your samefags, schizo.

>>10090532
>Why do misterfags spam this so much? Why do you want me to spend money on this?

Why would anyone give a shit if you buy it or not? It's for retro gaming, this is a retro board, and it is not just a chink arm board in a shoddy plastic case form aliexpress, shocker that people talk about it here.

>>10090612
It's funny how this guy keeps changing goal posts. First he claims vge isn't hated. Then he claims vge doesn't spam. Now he claims vge only spams one website.

As much as I liked retroarch with run-ahead and thought it minimized input lag with a fast monitor and a DS4 which is supposed to be the lowest input lag controller I notice a tiny choppiness with runahead that seems to drop inputs, and if I compare mega man emulated this way compared to mega man maker on PC (an actual port) then mega man maker definitely feels nicer in terms of input lag and responsiveness, not by much but there's a difference. I look forward to trying mister to eliminate these problems to satisfy my input lag autism

>>10090612

You really have to do better schizo.

Video Game Esoterica isn't gonna love you because you keep simping for him.

>>10090623
Except I never changed any of those goalposts, I agreed he is hated because the schizo was never able to prove that, I never agreed he spams because the schizo never proved that, and I never even said that he only spams one website because all the schizo did was post a cherry-picked search result, if you search for him on reddit in general the results are different.

It was the schizo who resorted to trying to claim he only spams reddit.

By the way, hi samefagging schizo.

You know what? You convinced me to subscribe to him, and to post even more of his videos,. Much much more, and I hope it causes you to Reeee so hard that you kys.

>>10090634
>input lag
You can't tell the difference. This excuse is so old.

>>10090623
>>10090639

Look at this. Like clockwork, two people that are totally not the schizo defending the schizo every time someone points out the schizo is being a schizo. I didn't even finish posting >>10090640 before the samfagging schizo broke out his proxies that he claims the VGE guy uses.

Hey, remember that time it was revealed that most of the people on the Somethign Awful forums who were attacking furries were furries themselves? And how often people who publicly hated fags were revealed to be fags themselves? Just saying, this guy claims the VGE guy is hated everywhere and uses proxies to samefag... and somehow always like clockwork has two "people" defending him and attacking anyone who disagrees.

>>10090640
>>10090639
You mother fuckers will argue about anything

Formal request to gore spam all VGE threads

>>10090634
The problem with retroarch + runahead is is not the lag, but that it is not accurate. FPGA is always going to have an advantage because the controller and display can be driven directly by the core. Saying that, most people are playing with USB controllers on HDMI with CRT effects which adds inaccuracy, but the potential is always there.

>>10090668
>The problem with retroarch + runahead is is not the lag, but that it is not accurate.

It's also something you have to fine-tune. Not enough run-ahead an you still have lag, too much and the game stutters. On some games/systems it can be impossible to set it so it's perfect. Not to mention that run-ahead heavily increases CPU usage, especially if you are using a very accurate core.

>>10090612
I love this clown. Anyone notice how he gradually puts in weasel words like "almost" or "some" or "I didn't see it" so he has an out when he gets proven wrong? Then changes the subject to something else, or changes the goals again to make people jump through new hoops. Although I am a little disappointed he has no substance to his arguments. Just sass.

I give him a 5 out of 10 for effort.

>>10090634
>I notice a tiny choppiness with runahead that seems to drop inputs.

If set up correctly that shouldn’t happen.

>>10090516
Why didn't you show the rest of it?

>>10090640
Yawn. Try harder.

>>10090639
>Video Game Esoterica isn't gonna love you because you keep simping for him
Because it IS VGE. No one but VGE himself would care this much.

You know the best part about all this? Nothing will stop people from still posting VGE videos anyway and all it will do is cause the schizos to reeee about it.

>>10090678
He's just fishing for (yous). It's clear he doesn't know what he's talking about. No point in giving him a response.

>>10090516
>50 pages of pure spam
That YouTuber is just making people not like him even more.

>>10090532
theres like one mister thread every 2+ weeks, the fuck you talking about

>>10090578
yeah every thread is just full of people posting their mister collection. fucking retard

vge sounds gay as fuck. I was shocked to find out he has a wife.

>>10092123
His wife is post-op, he confirmed it in a video before

Looks like the samefag has come out to play

>>10090674
>fine tune
How much fine tuning is acceptable? Every game and system is different. You don't have to do any tuning on FPGA and my point still stands, it may be low latency but it is not authentic.

>>10092151
I was in agreement that a FPGA is better

>>10090297
why do you care about a shit ps1 emulator for the shit wii that cant even run most commercial games at full speed?

>>10090516
Funny. vge was actually in 1 of my discord server. Every single day he spammed his latest video in every single sub-channel/category of our discord.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt tried to talk to him like a normal human being, and tell him that he needs to chill out with posting links for his YouTube channel all the time and he's way overdoing it. Bad idea. Vge got all butthurt and very angry. He started accusing me of persecuting him and singling him out. That in his opinion I was wrong and he wasnt posting enough and continued ranting that everyone was targeting him.

My mistake. I thought I was talking to a NORMAL human being. Not someone with mental health issues. There is clearly something wrong with him. Eventually He ended up getting kicked out of the discord because the other mod had enough of his crap. He was warned several times to stop but ignored the mdos every time. We had a soft "no self promotion' rule in the discord, but we never needed to truly enforce it until vge joined. Usually it was understood not to spam and to keep it reasonable. We have other gaming YouTubers in the same server who follow the same rule. Never had a problem until vge came.

I don't know what it is about retro gaming that draws in the most people with mental health issues. You can't talk to them like normal beings. There's always something wrong with them and they get irrationally angry when you politely tell them to change their behavior.

Jesus Christ, I have never seen someone try this autistically hard to attack someone with made up "trust me bro" stories for multiple days long after everyone else stopped giving a fuck. Get a fucking life and stop shitting up the mister thread.

>>10090516
Based effortposter
He's still trying to weasel his way out lel

FPGA implementations just get better and better, the MiSTer has gotten so much better in the past couple of years since I first got my DE10. I was reading that the NEOGEO core recently got some important timing fixes on MIST which will eventually come back to MiSTer. Such an amazing project.

>>10092207
No one here likes your YouTube channel

>>10092207
how long has it been since your wife transitioned?

>>10092207

Please stop shilling your channel here Anthony.

Hey, just wondering the github page for PSX core says things like "CPU Status: 90%", is it really only 90%? i played 2 games so far and it seems really good

>>10092549
ok i scrolled up and see it was already discussed. guess it's geniunely not perfect? bummer they moved on instead of perfecting it.

>>10092578
I think they got it as pefect as it can be on a de10.

>>10092578
We are hitting the limits of what they can move on to so they will be forced to improve them if they want to keep raking in the patreonbuxx eventually. Once n64 is done all the high hanging fruit is finished and they will have nothing to do except optimize shit.

>>10092676
Plenty of arcade cores to go still

>>10092676
>Once n64 is done all the high hanging fruit is
You mean low hanging fruit. And N64 is questionable.

>>10079174
just looking at the datasheets for the mister FPGA and the final combined PS2 cxd297gb uP, I would be beyond impressed at any developer who could squeeze out that level of performance.
Especially since you can just buy a PS2 uP for 15 bucks. No need for emulation. Plus it could have a custom PWBA with modern memory, and a built in hdmi controller.

>>10090516
You sir just crushed him. The worst part is him lying and pretending he couldn't find any proof of spam. Just a pure shameless liar. You sir are based.

>>10092715
I meant high hanging fruit and am aware that isn't a phrase. There aren't enough logic gatea for anything bigger than the n64 assuming n64 is possible.

>>10079535
>significant compromises
Elaborate.

>>10092676
>high hanging fruit
That's not a saying.

>>10092715
How would N64 be low hanging fruit, retard? Of course they meant high hanging.

>>10090641
Yes I can tell an extra 16ms of input lag if I play almost side by side

https://youtu.be/aZd14125cX8

>>10093839
The lag is definitely noticable between the two displays.

>>10092946
Have you ever heard anyone in your life use the term "high hanging fruit"?

>>10094706
I have tested my Mister with simultaneous dual output to my CRT and gaming monitor and there's barely anything in it, maybe one frame or less. Not sure what monitor that dude was using.

>>10094735
I've tested with both displays too I doubt you've had latency that low, two frames at least. You can measure it with 240p suite. "Barely" is more than none.

>>10093397
That's a monitor issue. Get a better TV.

>>10094848
Or just play on CRT why wouldn't you?

>>10094846
>240p suite
GOD SEND UTILITY!

>always thought there was a weird blotch on one of my CRTs
>someone recommend I look at it with 240p suite
>red RGB screen fucking shows it right there
>my friends were gaslighting me into ignoring it
Turns out it's more sensitive to unshielded speakers from that particular corner than my other CRTs

But yeah, 240p suite comes with two types of lag tests.

The interesting thing about Mister with CRT is that the implemented core directly drives the raster as it would on the original system. This eliminates any framebuffer which will always add at least a frame of latency and is something that would be very difficult to impossible on a software emulator.

>>10079174
don't care, i got fancy shaders and stuff with software, and also the actual consoles with everdrives so i don't see the point in owning a mister

no, the FPGA does not become the actual circuitry of the consoles. it's still reverse engineered approximations of their functionality, same as software emulation.

>>10095001
You are a faggot cunt.

>>10095001
>no, the FPGA does not become the actual circuitry of the consoles. it's still reverse engineered approximations of their functionality, same as software emulation.
Yep 100%. It's still emulation but just taking a different road to get there (hardware emulation). It will never be exactly the same as original hardware. No one should fall for the hype either. Not saying it's bad, but it's basically a pricey "all in one emulation box" .

>>10095030
It's always going to be better than software emulation.

>>10095049
i have a phone in my purse. i don't have a mister in my purse. software is better.

>>10095062
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogue_Pocket

There are 10 kinds of people that understand digital circuits: those that do and those that don't. Which one are you?

>>10095070
Fills up space better occupied by a phone

>>10094981
If I understand rightly it also eliminates audio buffering for the same reason.

>>10095856
Yes there's an audible lag between the HDMI and analog out. Still even the HDMI feels very tight. I got a MiSTer after I realised I was playing my Megadrive mini a lot, that had real lag and now when I try my minis I don't know how I put up with them.

>>10093839
>"see just how much better it looks on CRT"
>"these games were designed to play on this format"
>GBA game
kek

>>10090516
Based poster shuts down anon.

>>10090516
I actually watched his videos from time to time but you ruined it for me.

>>10094846
>I've tested with both displays too I doubt you've had latency that low, two frames at least.
Modern TVs have pretty low input lag, usually under 16ms, but you absolutely have to manually remove all post processing the TV is doing, just anebling Game Mode doesn't cut it, so it can be tedious. I'm able to get the reported ~14ms on my 2020 Samsung. High end monitors have even less and by default.

>>10095070
>i have a phone in my purse
you do you, anon

>>10090021
>>10089941
>>10090017
Ok, will ANY of you niggers post ACTUAL documentation and test results ?
I don't care about your retarded gang war I want some fucking data .

>>10079174
Gee MiSTer, I don't want to buy your overpriced emu box when I could just emulate on my PC instead!

>>10092106
When I was here last year there was a mister thread active every day

>>10090532
Because they are trying to advertise & sell an overpriced emu box. There's nothing a MiSTer can do that a gaming PC can't do.

>>10095947
Actually, GBA games looks really nice over S-Video and higher. Of course, because they were designed to be viewed on a digital display, but viewing them over a cleaner than composite signal on a CRT has it's charms.

>>10096827
>they were designed to be viewed on a digital display
I don't understand this argument. The GBA screen sucks, I have a nice CRT why not use it?

>>10096953
It's not an argument because I am not trying to convince or prove a point. It's a hard fact that the games were intended to be viewed on the GBA's screen and aspect ratio. The fact that you COULD play it on a GameBoy player (or on a MiSTer FPGA in this case) on a CRT is a great option for people wanting a bigger screen.

>>10096797
Who's trying to sell it?

>>10097012
Anyone who makes one of these threads.

>>10097020
The board itself isn't produced or sold for gaming applications.

>>10096974
>>10093839
>>10095947
Bruh, just use mGBA on the wii, its MUCH easier to set up

>>10097043
Has slowdown/frameskip issues. I tried this but it ain't much to write home about.

>>10096797
Pretty sure a gaming PC costs more than a MiSTer. Okay prices have gone up recently but I got my full setup for €280 just a couple of years ago.

I swear this board is the only place on the whole fucking internet that is so vehemently opposed to the MiSTer, in most cases without having ever used one.

>>10097154
If you play video games, it's a fair assumption that you have a gaming PC. Hell an office PC from the last 5 years is plenty for emulating /vr/ games.

>>10079889
>Errr no, no it doesn't.
Are you retarded? Misters are literally just emulators with video out ports

>>10097184
How easy is it to hook those up to a CRT without any problems though? How easy is it to carry your PC to a different place, when you want to play some games without being rooted to one specific spot?

>>10079174
It is only a matter of time before this bad boy will be able to play PS3 games. Emucucks lose again!

>>10097227
Maybe you have a laptop. Or a phone. Maybe a recent Xbox even. The point is there's a ton of different things you can emulate on, at least one of which you probably own for some other reason.
That's why emufags see MiSTer as an expense while emulation is "free". A DE-10 Nano & necessary additions is only good for one thing, while the chance that you already something you can emulate on to a good standard is quite high.

>>10097248
Can I hook those up to a CRT without the image coming through all weird though?

>>10097184
True, but you need a good PC to play anything with low-level accuracy. Bsnes is incredibly accurate but using it is also also essentially a ridiculous use of the system's hardware and resources just to play fucking 16 bit games.

>>10097227
>How easy is it to hook those up to a CRT without any problems though?
Really easy, I have an adapter
>How easy is it to carry your PC to a different place
Also really easy because I'm not some weak fuck candy boy with noodle arms that can't carry a PC

>>10097260
Bsnes was incredibly demanding on 2010 hardware. Single threaded performance has tripled since then. Also only 2 games need to use bsnes's maximum accuracy preset.

>>10097260
Who gives a fuck about "low-level" accuracy
Snes9x is perfectly fine, nobody alive could tell the difference between that and real hardware

>>10079531
Difficulties of a financial nature

>>10097274
>use snes9x with every enhancement
>mog all accuracylosers

Many such cases

>>10097281
Bsnes's enhancement are better than snes9x's.

DOJ and Ketsui boards are possible?

>>10097248
>Maybe you have
Maybe I have everything I need to emulate but it hasn't satisfied my personal needs such as input delay. So why does it matter that I went out of my way to get an FPGA instead of conforming to other more accessible setups?

>That's why emufags see MiSTer as an expense while emulation is "free"
If your argument leans heavily on "this is what everyone is saying" then you're a parroting sheep. How about you put some thought and soul into your posts?

>>10097373
>reading comprehension

>>10090516
Could you do the same for Facebook? The guy spams so much there too.

>>10097052
You fucking $0¥pod liar, i said mGBA, not VBA GX, you imbecile!

You will never be a real woman!

>>10097052
You are thinking on vba gx you dunce.

>>10079490
>an obsolete shitty FPGA is magic bro trust me

>>10079760
A cheap shitty Xilinx wont be any better than a cheap shitty Altera.

>>10097012
Anyone working for MiSTerAddOns of course.

>>10097154
It only cost more than a MiSTer because you're paying to play games like the RE remakes or GTA V, games the MiSTer obviously could never emulate. But at least owning a gaming PC is convenient to play both retro & modern games.

>>10097259
Yes, but it's a niche thing. And, just like the MiSTer is also a niche thing, you'll need niche hardware for your PC, if you really want a seamless image for your CRT. Some people say a Raspberry Pi can do it easily, but I've never tested it myself.

Anyway, if I were to go the "CRT + pure accuracy" mode, then a real console with a flashcart (or equivalent) seems way more worthwhile.

>>10097274
>muh marios

>>10097709
Okay and now realize that it’s a tenth of the size of your PC and requires an even smaller fraction of power than your PC does and maybe you can start to see a use case or some sort of appeal. I know it’s hard but I believe in you

>>10097709
Mister FPGA is more than rendering on CRT, the core itself drives the CRT just like the original hardware. It's accuracy for playing games/watching demos and not just appearance.

>>10097791
Uhhh... But I wouldn't connect my PC to a CRT, I said in my post I'd rather use a console. Anyhoo, I get your point, it might be useful if you're really tight on space.

>>10097806
Again, it's no better than the consoles themselves. But anon above explained to me. I get the appeal now.

>>10097840
Legitimate question: are you retarded?

>>10094902
>Or just play on CRT why wouldn't you?
not much point. Get a modern display or even a gaming monitor. No lag.

>>10096528
>Modern TVs have pretty low input lag, usually under 16ms, but you absolutely have to manually remove all post processing the TV is doing, just anebling Game Mode doesn't cut it, so it can be tedious. I'm able to get the reported ~14ms on my 2020 Samsung. High end monitors
have even less and by default.

Agreed but...

16ms? 14ms? My friend you can go even faster. I have 3ms on my monitor.

Gaming monitors in esports supposedly have 0ms to 1ms lag now. It makes me chuckle when I see someone else talking about lag on LCD. Their info is like 12 years out of date.

>>10097709
I had a Rasperry Pi emulation box, and it was awkward and didn't run a lot of stuff right. Definitely didn't feel like just plugging a console in and having it work.

>>10097886
>no lag
Friend, you are not understanding. I suggest you would not be intelligent enough to set up a MiSTer anyway so best to just steer clear.

>>10097903
Oh please. Makes me laugh how you try to play up the Mister as something so complicated only the "muh elite big brain" people could understand. You don't make yourself smarter by bragging about a Mister. Lmao.

>>10098058
I have no further information for you, you do you. Go your own way, enjoy your option.

>>10098058
Same Troll Same Fag

>>10079174
Imma fuck around with switchless and rgb mods, upscalers and cables thank you very much .

>>10097881
No. Are you? Seems so. Spending hundreds in a glorified Raspberry Pi. "bEcAuSe It'S sMaLl U dOn'T uNdErStAnD" If you like small, be satisfied with you dick, asshole.

>>10098267
>mIxEd CaSe GuY
Always you.

>>10098272
>No argument against the uselessness of mister
Always (all) of you.

>>10095062
what else do you have in your purse?

>>10095720
I'm one of the other 8 people

>>10096771
when I was here last year there was a scottforming thread and a Sega System thread every day, whats your point?

>>10096797
youre just trying to sell Linux discs with your PC shilling

>>10097248
but mister is also a PC, albeit old PC, in fact its several PC's.

>>10098267
lol what a retarded. also prohably a homosex

>>10095723
yes, i actually couldn't fit that in my current loadout, and my purse is still too large to be allowed in the largest standing venue here. phone and 8BitDo ZERO 2 are all i need for my shenanigans

>>10098532
Please, no projecting in the MiSTer thread.

A lot of talk about console cores, which MiSTer mostly does perfectly up to 16-bit. But it is also great for computer cores, Amiga with MegaAGS is amazing. The c64 and ZX Spectrum cores are perfect. Some like Apple II and Atari800 are getting there.

>>10098507
Nope. Never used Linux. As for PC's, there are multiple companies behind thatb& most of them have Windows pre-installed, not Linux.

>>10089939
You fucking retard, it just hides it from your view.

>>10090086
>our sub
You need to go back

>>10098892
No one likes your videos Anthony. Stop trying to promote them here.

>>10097709
>Anyway, if I were to go the "CRT + pure accuracy" mode, then a real console with a flashcart (or equivalent) seems way more worthwhile.

Right, but keeping five or so ancient consoles around with all the cables and shit and the space they take up... You'd also have to do an RGB-mod/fix for most systems. And then you still don't have access to arcade games outside neo geo.

In all these respects the mister makes life so much easier while offering a virtually identical experience (original controllers & RGB on CRT without lag). But it depends: If you really just care about 1-2 systems then yeah I'd get OG hardware + Everdrive.

>>10100028
>Right, but keeping five or so ancient consoles around with all the cables and shit and the space they take up...
You must live in a tiny apartment bruh. I have more than enough space for all my consoles & cables. I even have plastic storage containers for all my controllers(both wired & wireless). I have 13 consoles by the way.

>>10100028
>RGB-mod/fix for most systems
Dude, there's, like, something called "composite". Those consoles come out with those signal by default, and it's even the way developers thought people would play their games. If MiSTer was about accuracy, you would know that. So many lame excuses just to buy an expensive Raspberry Pi. I'd say you are rich and money is no problem for you, but, if that would be the case, then you should expend on real hardware, not some poor copycat. You lot are just like the emulation fags

>>10100154
This is all so tiresome. You are a fucking disease.

>>10100167
I was posting here (and in previous MiSTer threads) since the beginning. About 99% my posts were polite and MiSTer fans were alright. However, some delusionals appear from time to time, always so high and mighty about "le accuracy", and they ALWAYS get triggered when anyone even barely mentions real consoles. One of them even insulted me, I just shot back. Unfortunately, the MiSTer project is gimped by people like you who don't understand technology and its limitations. Learn how to properly debate and accept the pros and cons of whatever you like. If you aren't getting money selling MiSTers, then why the hell are you even triggered?

>>10098890
you mean like what your massive stomache does to your tiny peepee?

>>10100212
Congratulations on telling people they have been playing games wrong with regurgitated arguments for 4 years.

>>10101101
I didn't... Until now. Better yet, I just mentioned how I preferred real consoles, without using words like "right" or "wrong". That's what's funny: the single mention of consoles warrants a fit from some MiSTer users. What the fuck? No offense to most of the posters here, many of you are chill. I only mean ill of those mentally disajusted fanatics.

>>10101101
your post number is 173
>>10095720 <---- this guy gets it

>>10101361
>your post number is 173
Cool

How do I hook up my old controller and does it support multitap?

>>10100028
RGB mod defeats the purpose of playing on original hardware. its unique composite video hardware is part of the experience, blending dithering patterns for additional colors and transparencies, and anti-aliasing for free. i'd have plenty of space for my consoles even if i lived in a 400 sqft efficiency like my downtown slut friend. it's about a cubic foot for all of them ffs

>>10079712
The fuck does that even mean? You're bitching that there is no input lag to inhibit you or something?

>>10103202
I'm actually praising the MiSTer, dumbass!

Is there some midpoint between regular emulation and MiSTer? I'd get into it but the kits are 2expensive4me

>>10101601
snac adapter and yes. though I believe you need one of the addon boards for snac. dont think theres a way to connect them with just the de10

>>10103446

You just need a de-10 nano and 128 mb ram to use all the systems. You don't need all the extra shit.>>10103585

>>10100154
>>10101984

Sure, whatever floats your boat. I guess whatever is "authentic" depends on what kind of set-up you had at the time (unless you're a larping zoomer as I suspect 95% of this board's population to be). In the gaming scene in the 90's it was pretty much a no-brainer for people who were invested in the hobby to rgb-mod their consoles, so I'm used to rgb-out and it doesn't strike me as "inauthentic". Also, European systems generally supported RGB out of the box, you just had to buy a garden variety scart-cable and that was that. At least I remember this being the case for the Super Nintendo. On the shit-stained flip-side, PAL games ran at 50Hz and with massive black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. So if you were a casual Eurofag in the 90's that's how you'd remember your games: Sluggish, stretched and with less screen real estate. Yes, that's how "the games were intended to be played" by the companies. That said, I don't know any people who were into the hobby back in the day who now yearn for this kind of "authenticity" - for enthusiasts in the 90's it's always been 60Hz and rgb or bust.

>>10105294
>That said, I don't know any people who were into the hobby back in the day who now yearn for this kind of "authenticity"
That's what upset me, maybe you read my post alone and not the chain of replies that originated it. As I said, there's a good portion of mature MiSTer fans, but there's always a few bad apples who act like the beholders of "le accuracy". Maybe they're comparing themselves to someone using ZSnes on early 2000s, but that's far from the only reality. You need to take into account consoles and CRTs, plus the current state of software emulation. It wasn't about me saying "I have the authenticity", it was about criticizing who does. In fact, that kind of people tarnishes the reputation of MiSTer, making others think it's a project for spergs.

>>10105547
Not him, but I remember some of them saying "it's a billion times more accurate than consoles" or some shit like that. He's either trolling or lying his ass off.

>>10100154
>>10101984
>>10105294
The whole "composite is better" revisionism is retarded when you consider that arcades were always seen as better looking than home consoles. It's just cope for not wanting to spend the time and effort getting RGB setups. 95% of the "composite effects" that people sperg out about were used on PC and arcade too. It's true that devs expected most players to play on low-end setups but that really doesn't mean anything. It'd be like playing a modern game on minimum graphical settings because that's what most people are using. You adjust for the lowest common denominator.

>>10105294
>European systems generally supported RGB
Almost nobody would have had scart back in 1991. Only rich people with their fancy new expensive tvs.

>>10106030
>You adjust for the lowest common denominator
Except it wasn't me, but the developers of those games. What can the consumer do?

>>10105294
>In the gaming scene in the 90's it was pretty much a no-brainer for people who were invested in the hobby to rgb-mod their consoles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo

do you have a source for this?

>>10106030
PC game dithering patterns were tailored for the common phosphor geometries of the time, and they worked over VGA, until i got a higher resolution monitor years later. Similar care was put into making console graphics look good on unmodified consoles. It was never the intent to have pinstripes and checkerboards in every scene.

>>10106238
Here's an EGM page showing off what RGB looks like on the Genesis. Reviewers in general played their stuff on the best equipment possible. The Famicom in particular had quite a few specialized models that supported S-Video, like the Sharp C-1. They wouldn't have made stuff like that if no one cared. Most people didn't give a shit yes, but again that's no different from how most people don't play PC games on maxed out settings.

>>10106269
We asked for proof. Not your speculation and guess work.

As someone who lived that era, I think you are full of shit. The vast majority of people did NOT mod their consoles. Thats something a tiny minority or rich people did. Most people simply had their console using whatever TV they had available at home. USA didn't have scart or rgb for most TVs.

>>10106295
I literally said that yes, most people didn't mod their consoles. You're not actually responding to me at this point, you're just responding to the RGB ghosts that exist in your head.

>>10106304
You said:

>In the gaming scene in the 90's it was pretty much a no-brainer for people who were invested in the hobby to rgb-mod their consoles

Don't try to back pedal now that you've called out for your bullshit. If you were alive in the 90s gaming scene you would that statement is full of crap.

>>10106325
That user isn't me. "Invested in the hobby" is weasel words that I wouldn't use.

>>10106269
>Reviewers in general played their stuff on the best equipment possible
I actually have friends who worked at the company published that gaming magazine in your picture . I've had the privilege of getting several tours of their offices back in the 1990s to 2000s. No they did not have the absolute bleeding edge best equipment on the market. They had whatever the company gave them, and whatever their budget allowed. It wasn't terrible equipment, but it wasn't the best either. I had many conversations with them I fondly remember with their staff, and goodies I was given from their office during tours.

>>10106349
>source: dude trust me I have a friend
lmao

>>10106251
By the early 90s, monitors were sharp unless they were a cheap piece of shit. These things were primarily for work, not making your games blurry. You can see how how the tree's pinstripes (normally blurred in composite) are clearly visible in this 1992 monitor.

>>10106356
My friend was the one who worked there, and gave me the hookup for the tours. Ive seen what they have to work with many times. I probably still have the free merch they gave me in a box somewhere. I will try to dig it up.

They didn't have the best equipment in the world like you claimed. It was literally a corporate office. You wouldn't know it from the outside. Inside it was a bunch of desks and CRT TVs and desktop computer setup. Lots of cubicles. Almost Every desk was decorated in game merch. They did have a couple huge game statues in the hallway, and lots and lots of shelves filled with old games and gaming peripherals they already did reviews on. I got a free Logitech gamepad and keyboard from them I used for many years before the keyboard broke.

Seethe all you want.

>>10106374
I bet you're the same guy who tests his coworkers about audio quality in flacs

>>10106374
Oh yeah I'm seething alright, just like I seethed as a kid when my friend said his uncle worked at Nintendo. What exactly are you arguing here, that EGM in that magazine clip was lying about using $4000 monitors?

>>10106397
I'm arguing against your statement that said reviewers played on the best equipment possible.
>Reviewers in general played their stuff on the best equipment possible
They didn't. They played on whatever the company could provide for their staff within budget. Which was... from what I recall... was a bunch of black Sony TVs you would see in a typical North American household. If they had a $6K monitor like you said then it definitely wasn't for every staff member's desk.

>>10106412
>dodging the question
I accept your concession.

>>10106269
famitsu used the famicom titler when reviewing games because it supported s-video. if you know hard it is to get clean crt footage then it makes perfect sense why reviewers would shell out more shekels to get very good setups

>>10106431
I didn't dodge any question. I answered your question directly.

>>10106451
No they didn't. I have friends at Famitsu as well.

>>10106269
>>10106349
I recently read an interview about EGM, dug it back up for this convo. I don't know about "best quality setups" but if you looked at screenshots of most gaming mags from back then, you can tell they were using RGB or at least S-Video.

>>10105131
how does he hook up his old controller to the de10?

>>10106724
There are several departments that put together a magazine. It wouldnt surprise me if the graphic designer or illustrator had access to very high end capture equipment because they were responsible for scanning or capturing images that would be seen by millions. While the actual reviewers had to make do with whatever AV equipment the company could order within budget. There's probably a few outliers where if you become senior enough then you could order better equipment. Not everyone has access to that stuff because of cost, but a few do.

>>10106358
Sonic is not a PC game. try Commander Keen 4 on a monitor you had in 1992, if you were even alive then. i was and i have.

>>10106896
Just get a new USB controller like a retrobit Sega 8 button. Good for every core and very low latency

>>10107607
yeah, thats what I do. but that guy asked if he cold use his old controller which I assumed he meant one from a console so I told him he'd need a board and a snac adapter

>>10107613
The problem with snac is the control only works with the corresponding core and not even with mister menu. A solid USB controller is the best option unless you're a real die hard for a few systems.

>>10107513
What does Sonic not being a PC game have to do with anything? The monitor's dot pitch isn't gonna magically change if you run a different game.

>>10107683
Yeah, I switched from SNAC to a Daemonbite adapter. 1ms of lag who cares.

>>10079231
Fpbp

>>10108368
Checked

>>10079490
FPGA can't fix everything. The MiSTer is under powered. Hence why PC is the best option for emulation.

>>10079270
The Saturn/PS1 effectively are the upper limit. N64 compatibility requires using the on board CPU to emulate half the machine, which means while the games play its not "muh FPGA accuracy" and is more or less using the DE10 as if it were a Pi.

>>10108640
Nope, N64 is 100% FPGA side.

>>10108640
Even if you used the cpu for emulation. You can still use the fpga for proper low latency fully synchronized audio and video output.