/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10052462
It's great for shmups, beat 'em ups, Valis, Ys series, and a few really cool arcade ports. Some people also really like Rondo of Blood whatever. Anyway just make sure you get the CD BIOS and enjoy. What type of games do you like so we can recommend?

STAAAR PARODIEEER!

Nice to have an actual TurboGrafx thread for once, definitely cooler and more obscure than whatever Saturn was supposed to be. My favorite games are

>Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
>Cotton: Fantastic Night Dreams
>Super Air Zonk
>Advanced V.G.
>Riot Zone
>Double Dragon II

Road Spirits is also okay but probably considered kusoge by most.

>>10052462
g

>>10052576
Is the Cotton game on PC-Engine a good one to start with?

>>10052626
Yes

>>10052626
It's the first game in the series. Most people prefer the X68000 or arcade version but I like the Turbo CD version for its arranged soundtrack and it's the only Cotton game to my knowledge actually released in USA and in English

I had one as a kid with just under 40 games.
Loved it. Did not have a Duo, tho.

My picks:
Somer Assault (sentient, interdimensional slinky fights the zodiac and an evil sorceress)
Cadash (best home version)
Jack Chan's Action Kung Fu (see Cadash)
Tricky Kick (sokoban-like puzzler)
Boxy Boys (literally sokoban)
Neutopia I and II (not TOO good, but decent Zelda clones)
Samurai Ghost (I didn't like it as a kid, but lots of other people do so you might as well)
Magical Chase (fun af shooter)
Star Soldier and Soldier Blade (see Magical Chase)
Final Lap Twin (racing game with an RPG mode)
World Court Tennis (see Final Lap Twin but swap racing for tennis)
New Adventure Island
Parasol Stars (Bubble Bobble sequel)
Air Zonk (see Magical Chase)
Shockman (not great, but decent enough; Megaman without the weapons upgrades; Nip-only SNES sequel is fun af, tho)

Didn't have, but emulated on Magic Engine in the late 90s and liked:
Bomberman 94 (dat multiplayer; my parents went on vacay for a week and left me at home and had friends over constantly to do teen shit and play Bomberman 94)
Photograph Boy (shooter, but not like you'd expect one to be; have to try it for yourself)
Rondo (duh)
Toilet Kids (basically TwinBee with shit)
Liquid Kids (loved the arcade version as a kid and this one's not too bad)

Played years later and liked:
Maerchen Maze (kinda like a Kiki KaiKai-like)

Would not recommend:
Ys 3 (Genesis version is better, IMO; yes, even with redbook)
Exile 2 (can't be beaten)
Any Disney game (Darkwing Duck was such utter fucking shit, holy hell)
Keith Courage (always reminded me of the sidescrolling parts of Kid Icarus but less good)
Hatris (NES version is better in all ways except colour)
Legendary Axe I and II (just never liked either very much at all)

>>10052652
Forgot one: Coryoon. Tried it on Magic Engine and it was absolute tits.

>>10052658
>Magic Engine
When will emulators have fun UIs again? i miss it.

>>10052965
Not everyone is a weaboo fagget like yourself.

>>10052462
The Legendary Axe is a really great one (you'll probably like it's sequel, too). So are Wonder Momo, Military Madness, Coryoon: Child of Dragon, Power Drift, The Legend of Valkyrie, Parasol Stars, Battle Lode Runner, Neutopia 1-2, and Dragon Egg!, and Dragon's Curse (which is an expanded, "off-brand" port of Wonderboy III: The Dragon's Trap, but with saving). I also like Vigilante, Die Hard, Metal Stoker, City Hunter, Genpei Tomaden (and its sequel, Samurai Ghost), Bravoman, Dungeon Explorer, Bikkuriman World, and Blue Blink (Aoi Blink). It also has the only retro game version of Stratego on it, which is pretty awesome to me.

Two anime adventure games I know of are Bubblegum Crash and Maison Ikkoku (House of the Moment), if you like those types of games.

I played through and beat a major favorite, Ninja Spirit, but it wasn't my cuppa tea (even though I love the Genesis Shinobi games and other ninja games like Hagane).

CD games you must play are Ys Book I & II, Ys III: Wanderers from Ys, Ys IV: Dawn of Ys, and Motteke Tamago (Take the Egg). There's also The Dynastic Hero (off-brand CD version of Wonderboy in Monster World).

>>10053350
*Genesis Shinobi and other ninja games like Hagane and similar-feeling games to those such as Mega Man X1-3)

>>10053350
>>10053352
Other picks I like that came to mind after these posts are Atomic Robo-Kid Special, Pac-Land, 1943 Kai, and (for SuperGrafx) 1941: Counter Attack

>>10052462
Additional serious question: is the Analogue Duo a good place to start for someone without a CRT? Anyone else get one?

>>10053362
I preordered one, there's no way of really knowing if it'll truly be worth it until units are delivered, but Analogue's products are generally high-quality. I assume it'll be eventually jailbroken so you don't have to use physical Hucards and CD's, but there's no way of knowing yet.

If you don't already have a decent game collection for the system, I'd almost say it isn't worth starting, and you're better off getting a PC Engine Mini from Amazon Japan.

>>10052462
Shantae

>>10052576
At least you get threads. Meanwhile we PC-FX chads…

>>10054678
lol
idky these meme used to upset people. I just think it's silly and fun.

>>10052965
Yeah, idk. Besides, everyone here complains about ZSNES being shit but I liked it and still do.
Oh, and I actually paid for Magic Engine back then because I missed my TG16 and I wanted to support guys who made a very good emulator.
I paid for my copy of Raine, too (MAME, but just for Taito games; as mentioned in >>10052652, I fucking loved Liquid Kids growing up but really, I just adored Taito games in general).

>>10052652
Forgot one: Space Invaders Deluxe. Taking the OG formula and building on it in every way while keeping the gameplay (and even the original version, if you wanted) the same was a smart move, IMO

>>10053235
Shut up, faggot. I know your dad.

>>10054862
>Space Invaders Deluxe
Meant Space Invaders 91. Deluxe came later and I never had or played it.

Now that we have a turbo thread, any good and hopefully cheap upscaler? I don't have the space for a CRT and buying an upscaler was never a priority because I never had much of a problem with my SNES and other systems image quality but my PC engine definitely looks like ass on an HD TV.
>>10052462
I think Shock man is a pretty neat game for the system, be sure to check the Star Soldier series, and the Bomberman games, I also find Silent Debuggers pretty cool. The system sadly doesn't have that many fan translations but most of the games I tried with translations are pretty fun.

>>10052462
I had one of these. I had a baseball game that I played for fucking years

>>10052462
inb4 obligatory rondo

lot of excellent shooters, side scrollers, and RPGs. its a smaller library than the genesis and snes but theres some very surprising games on it too

amazing system if you like hudson, falcom, irem, namco, taito, compile, and masaya, with naxat also developing a large portion of games. you also have a smattering of stuff from konami, capcom, technos, and even sega lmao

i think Red was the single best developer on the entire system, and they created incredible contributions to several genres. basically the Treasure of the pc engine
>>10052652
exile 2 is perfectly playable in japanese, and that's the non-fucked up version. there's also a patch/hack for the american version that fixes the difficulty

its definitely not as good as exile 1 though, but the graphics are a bit better. you can grind at the very start of the game in a certain spot with the controller on auto-fire, this wasp enemy keeps respawning over and over

>>10053350
also the only console version of minesweeper, which is wild.

the shinobi port on pce is rather cut down but its still fun, retains the sense of urgency unlike the master system version
>>10052495
this is decent. i would swap bonk 3 for liquid kids though. i also think the crush pinball games are pretty overrated, and swap the neutopia games for ys i/ii and ys iv

>>10056050
adding on, forgot how many telenet games are on the pce. im not a huge fan of telenet though

>>10052462
What file format do I use for the CD games on the Turbo EverDrive Pro?

>>10052520
Mike Matei owns a legit copy of this game

>>10056050
ys games are there and while liquid kids is a perfectly fine game on its own right, i avoid arcade ports unless its clearly superior to the original (Bloody Wolf, Valkyrie)

I'm gonna buy one of these just for Splatterhouse

>>10056916
buy this instead

>>10052520
lol its garbage

>>10057976
Great contribution, when are you planning on killing yourself?

>>10054683
Podcast a thing now.

>>10056050
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the Master System version, really. But why does the TG version of Shinobi have different music?

>>10059060
>But why does the TG version of Shinobi have different music?

shinobi has all the arcade music
unfortunately, asmik cheaped out and made it a 3 megabit cart, so it has a lot of omisions
>several enemies cut
>missing black tiger level
>missing bonus stages
>no sword, so you just shuriken everyone
>no bullet powerup

port would've been much better if handled by nec avenue, though the music might've been a bit worse. they used these white noise drums on a bunch of sega ports

>>10052495
Legendary Axe 2 has one of the coolest art styles I've ever seen in a game.

When the hell are new TG translations coming holy shit, I fucking hate how tendie obsessed translators are

>>10060032
The NES/SNES are nostalgic and popular, the TG is a niche console you find out existed when you are done expiring Nintendo and Sega's libraries and are looking for something new.
Sadly the PC engine is a system for turbo nerds and nobody is willing to make a translation for a game only 30 people will play.

>>10060032
legend of xanadu i and ii have been done for like 6 years now, and they're just sitting on them

the hardcore pc engine fanbase is full of some whackos. especially that nightwolve guy

>>10054678
Good new! GBA get official cartridge retail. Now fingers crossed that her GameCube project might’ve happened.

I LOVE Ninja Warriors. Who else here? Everyone only talks about the Super Nintendo reboot and its remake (to be fair, also amazing games), but I never hear anything about this one.

>>10060032
>Nintendo player obsession
Not-alive yourself, console warrior faggot.

>>10052495
Great list. It is missing Ninja Spirit and Splatterhouse, though.

>>10052462
The CD add-on allowed for voice acting and tons of sprites. They used this for a lot of text and voice acting heavy games... which do not translate AT ALL. It along with the Saturn are the most Japanese required consoles, and outsider fans tend to focus on the arcade ports and action titles. There's a trickle of fan-translations over the years.

The console had a shit ton of these genres that never show up on Engish "best" releases:

>rpgs
>adventure games
>simulation/management
>visual novels
>Quiz games
>board games
>majong

>>10061859
i like ninja warriors but its hard as fuck, i never can even get past level 2. any tips?

>>10062124
you had a point until you listed "quiz games, board games, mahjong and sim games".

>>10062142
>you had a point until you listed "quiz games, board games, mahjong and sim games".

The CD versions of those games heavily feature characters, dialogue, and cut-scenes. The quiz games are all in Japanese with Japanese voice acting (some don't even have text for the questions, just voices!). And even Mahjong games are heavily story focused. They made all of these into "anime games"!

Is this a Mahjong game, or an anime? You decide!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELt2hWWaszw

Princess Minerva has over 1 hour of voiced cutscenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq3dDpljFyo

The point being that they perfected the art of anime/movie-games when westerners were trying to cram FMVs of live actors onto the CDs and failing. These games are incomprehensible without translation.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%EF%BC%B0%EF%BC%A3%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%B3%E7%89%88

Mega Drive was the action and sport machine and SNES was the platformer and jarpig machine, but what was the PC Engine? I know absolutely nothing about the system, what kind of gamer owned it?

>>10062838
Probably ultra otaku businessmen concealing their power level

>>10061859
>stating a fact is console warring

t. Shovelware translation enjoyer

>>10062838
>but what was the PC Engine?

1. More shooting games (MD was their main competitor for that)
2. Some platformers (but MD and SFC had the edge on that overall)
3. Weird experimental titles no one else had
4. Endless voice acted animu movie games in various formats.

Nowhere else are you gonna get 1 hour of voice acted cut-scenes in 1993 in an rpg. Or a board game with voice acting and a fully fleshed out story. Or a Mahjong quest game with cutscenes. Or a voice acted Romance sim.

Look through issues of PC Engine Fan to get an idea what the console was like in glorious Nippon.

Whether these games are GOOD or not depends on your tastes. It's certainly a novelty to have a voice acted visual novel or sim game with anime aestetics in the early 90's.

Fun fact; Akira Kitamura (Mega Man 1-2 director) was cutscene artist for the PC Engine version of Virgin Dreams. The game is a sim/story game where you follow a young aspiring model as she advances her career. It's often mistaken for a porn game, but aside from a few riske scenes, it's straight.

Oh tha'ts another thing. A few PCE-CD games fetured some nudity.

Legitimately good games that can stand up to other console libraries:

>Sylphia
>Magical Chase
>Coyoon Child of dragon
>Dracula X: Rondo of Blood (Castlevania)
>Takahashi Meijin no Shin Boukenjima (New Adventure Island)
>Air Zonk
>Super Air Zonk
>Gate of thunder/Lords of Thunder
>Tokimeki Memorial
>Download 1-2
>Seirei Senshi Spriggan

(A theme is side scrolling shooters with paralax scrolling, a hard feature to pull off for the console)

Good games, not great
>Kaze Kiri
>Dragon Egg
>Bonk series
>Fushigi no Yume no Alice
>TRAVEL EPLE
>Pac Land
>Star Parodier
>Bomberman 94
>Faussete Amour
>Sapphire

Nice ports or multi-plat:
>Mr. Heli
>Cotton: Fantastic Night Dreams
>Gradius II
>Wonder Boy 3: The Dragon's Curse
>Märchen Maze
>R-Type Complete
>Valkyrie no Densetsu
>The New Zealand Story
>Rainbow Islands
>Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari
>Fray in Magical Adventure

Unique/quirky games:
>Gomola Speed
>Full Speed! Delivery Boy
>Mesopotamia (Somer Assault)
>Photo Boy
>It's Bazar dé Gozarre's Game, If You Please

>>10062838
A lot of the best and most interesting CD games are the visual novels, adventure games, simulation games, role palying games, quiz games, etc. They're all super text heavy.

That's why English lists focus on the action and shooter titles, since they are not focused on English. But that only covers half the system's library.

PCE-CD got both Princess Maker games, seemingly as a response to PM2's popularity. A cartridge console like the SFC could only get a scaled down version.

>>10054683
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEkquSwP2cc&feature=sharea

>>10063347
>Nowhere else are you gonna get 1 hour of voice acted cut-scenes in 1993 in an rpg.
Between the four mains, their four endings, the bits with the immortal wizard guy (not Velonese) and the opening cinematic explaining the game world and backstory, Dark Wizard has about that much m 50 minutes or so, I would say.

>>10063453
>Bomberman 94
>good
>not great
Have you no friends? My friends and I bombed the fuck off of each other in the five player mode. Best part is that even if you're shit at the game, once you die in multiplayer, you can still fuck shit up for other players and kill then for killing you do it's still fun for an unskilled player even after losing

>>10063679
The only thing holding it back is that it's just a good Bomberman game, and pretty much every console got a good bomberman title and they all kinda blur together. So pretty much every console list will have a single Bomberman game in there.

>>10063347
I am praying, no, BEGGING, that AI be of some use to translate these games.

>>10062838
Shooters.
Some will say that the Mega Drive is also the shooter console, but while the best on Mega Drive are as good as the best on PC Engine, PC Engine has way more overall, as well as a huge number of actually good ones.

>>10063735
AI is going in that direction with real time text and audio translations. Problem is that it's all some shitty "app" with server when what we need is free open source software that people can plug into their emulators. So you download the Japanese to English plugin, and then you go.

Also, the games themselves are quirky historical artifacts, so don't be shocked that they're not that good. They were the original "panty quest" games with often dull gameplay, mediocre graphics, then nice anime cutscenes with sprite work and maybe some titilation. Impressive for 1993, but you can just fire up hentai today.

Yuna got a translation, and it's one of the better advneture titles which gives you some sense of how these play like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWr4dQXXUU&pp=ygUIcGNlIHl1bmE%3D

>>10052462
This thread got me thinking about these games again and now I kind of want to try the Valis series again. Turbo CD is really cool, my second favorite after SEGA CD. Even Yuuko herself agrees

>>10063714
It's the best Bomberman game, tho

>>10063813
The Valis games on the Turbo/PC engine CD were released on the switch as the Valis collection volume 1. Are they considered the best port of these games or is there a better port?

>>10062838
>I know absolutely nothing about the system, what kind of gamer owned it?

early on? arcade gamers and shooter enthusiasts. more normal type people.

later on when the super famicom was buttfucking the system's sales? mostly otakus. there was a brief spike in sales when the system got street fighter ii CE though (it predated snes CE/HF by 3 months)

>>10063453
i think bonk 2 is honestly excellent, and holds up better than the other 2 games. bonk 1 is still a classic but rougher around the edges, and 3 feels like a soulless expansion of bonk 2

i'd add a bunch of RPGs to the "stands up to other libraries list", particularly Ys IV. had way more fun with that one than link to the past. also, don't forget dragon curse (wb iii dragon trap), it's really rough around the edges graphically but its one of the most immaculately designed games of the 1980s

>>10063813
i kinda struggle to get into the valis series, they ain't any better on the genesis either (like, legit bad games), but valis 1 is pretty solid on pce. it's a decent B-tier game

hucard definitely got most of the really good sidescrollers on the system

>>10063926
1, 3 and 4 are best on pce. 3 and 4 are cut-down ports on genesis/snes. 1 is a different game on genesis but it's shit

2 is just not a great game, and there's very different versions of it. the fanbase considers the x68k version to be the best (it's like a 16-bit remake of the 8-bit versions)

2 on genesis is a weird "super deformed" version that runs faster but plays sloppy, its based on the pce one

>>10052462
>>10052462
>>10052462

People in tiny corners of the internet rave about PC Engine but they only ever made one good game for it somehow.

>>10063926

I don't know how you could conceivably fuck up a port 40 years later desu. Maybe the translation is kind of lazy? Who knows. Phantasm soldier is really the best one in the collection.

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9218380/#9218380

>>10064085
You could at least try some other games. If you don't like shmups you can try its port of Double Dragon II or Riot Zone.

>>10064085
This sounds like people talking about Sonic CD on SEGA CD. If you played some of the other games you would probably enjoy them

>>10064197

I have. Funny you mention Mega CD when almost everything on the system were shitty ports of Megadrive games. Sonic CD gets a bit of shit too, but typically holds the best reception on the console. I'm not into Jpegs, so I don't give two shits about Lunar silver story or whatever when they basically remade it entirely on Playstation a few years later.

>>10064310
What game is this? Looks like fun

>>10064343
Reverse. Image. Search. Faggot.

>>10064085
>but they only ever made one good game for it somehow.

because castlevania fanboys are low IQ weirdos. they make the worst threads on /vr/

maybe actually "try" any other game, like soldier blade or parasol stars

>>10064310
takin it to the hoop
pce wasn't really a "sports" console. it has a good chunk of baseball and soccer games, plus the "fan favorites" like f1 circus and fire pro wrestling

>>10052462
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9xseusa8esd67h5/PC_Engine_Mini_Exclusive_Roms.7z/file

pc engine mini exclusive roms
possibly emulator exclusive

standby OP for complete retail library

>>10052462
>>10064402
COMPLETE RETAIL LIBRARY
https://www.mediafire.com/file/78vnvoxo49yhh34/enjoy_cheers.zip/file

from my own personal everdrive
enjoy faggots


(pic not related, you are on your own for cd shit)

>>10061930
Arcade originals are better

>>10064408
thank u anon

>>10064789
the cho anki games are pretty solid
first one is kinda like a shooter version of alien soldier...levels are mostly waves of enemies with 25 boss fights total

game center cx does pce games a lot of the time.

>>10056060
Cool story Mike I know you mention it every stream you don't need to post it here too

>>10064789
>>10065161
S0VL fantasy shooter
>>>/v/644076489

>>10052495
Fpbp

>We're giving away 20 CD-Rs containing an extra-difficult version of our game
The kind of shit you can do when you don't need the console manufacturer to print your discs

>>10052462
It's just a huge, huge system. A real competitor to the Famicom and Megadrive.

>mfw replaced the save cap with a bigger (in memory storage) one

>>10064408
Absolutely based
I downloaded it all on my phone kek

>>10067916
Lemeroid

>>10052581
o

>>10064408
Thanks! Any idea on what format the CD games should be on the Everdrive Turbo Pro?

>>10068530
iso i guess?

>>10063453
>>Mesopotamia (Somer Assault)

This counts as an excellent and unique game itself. It's a slinky action game with huge boss fights that are zodiac signs? Absolutely nothing like it. If someone made an indie version it'd be MASSIVE and make millions while being lauded for it's unique creativity.

how's the urusei yatsura game?

>>10068530
i have the briefcase brother i have no idea
mister takes bin\cue
analogue pocket takes a conversion program-loader to get the cd titles going

>>10052520

>>10052520
>>10069413
wrong image kek

>>10069415
Mike post the tape measure dick pic again

>>10069415
It always cracks me up
This board saved photo of my bed
My sheets are all black now though
Technically even worse for showing stains
Silk is not recommended
I have to replace them often

>>10062838
I owned one as a kid. My dad bought it because it wasn't 8bit nes and looked cool. its the only reason. ppl back then were not nerds on message boards. its literal dads (boomers) just seeing a box and going "looks good"

>>10062838
the arranged soundtrack enjoyer

>>10052565
PCE-kun!

>>10070651
based Yonemitsu

>>10070571
PCE-CD had the best aestetics and art by far. They weren't like, the best actual games, but you can tell the people making them had huge anime fantasies and by god damn well they were gonna put that into the game as best they could.

>>10062838
>what kind of gamer owned it?

you see two types of pce e-celebs/fans online

normal well adjusted people who mostly play the shooters and arcade games

fucking weaboo ass weirdos with autism who mostly play the RPGs and digital comics

>>10063347
>Akira Kitamura (Mega Man 1-2 director)

hopefully pc cocoron gets released someday. it would be the closest thing to a megman game on the system, asides from shockman or sonson ii

>>10072936
There's a whole set of Cocoron sequels that never got rleeased. A mega-CD game and PC Cocoron. It's unclear what the hell PC Cocoron was, likely just a remake/port rather than a whole new game.

>>10069332
It didn't have a game, but a motion comic. Basically just an episode of the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5A1NkSJ-6w

>>10072952
from the magazine, some of the levels are the same and other ones look different

was the mega cd one ever finished?

>>10073037
>was the mega cd one ever finished?

I believe it was called Pop'n Land, and it was either near complete or complete. The reason these two weren't released is because Takeru (Sur de Wave) went belly up because of an ill advised Titanic themed visual novel called 1902. Holy shit that was a bad idea. Pop'n Land even got advertisements done for it.

>>10052462
BUMP FOR FUCKING JUSTICE

>>10074878
This should have been a system seller but these ads are fucking gay aids. It looks like some girly girl shit rather than a super cool fast action shooter (and one of the best of that console era).

>>10075297
definitely some weird picks in general for american releases

like, why did NEC bring over forgotten worlds and sim earth?

>>10075391
Cotton and Magical Chase got western releases, but as far as I can tell both were very limited runs. I think they just didn't know how to handle these games since they were fast paced action games... but had cutesy graphics. That can work in japan but not North America. I've never come across anyone talking about how they played Cotton as a kid, so the release must have been limited to a few thousand tops.

Total shame, totally solid games each.

>>10075297
dude the game is gay af, tf did you want them to do, its literally about a little witch with cute graphics

>>10076778
>dude the game is gay af, tf did you want them to do, its literally about a little witch with cute graphics

Ignore the graphics and look at the game - it's a fast paced action title. it's totally for Boys. Kirby is a gay pink blob, and they somehow turned him into a bad ass. PC Engine needed Sega or nintendo tier marketing to work.

Would love to hear more about Cotton's American release since we KNOW it happened, but no one talks about having actually owned a copy. I've seen a few videos which purport to be the American version - no voice acting, and text translated, but otherwise the same.

Magical Chase and Cotton are top tier games with broad appeal, and some of the best shooting games of the era, just that it's not obvious to boys in uSA in 1993.

>>10052462
Haven't played much Turbografx but I wrote down a list of games that interest me, based on my own research.

Air Zonk
Bonk's Adventure
Bonk's Revenge
Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure (TG-CD)
Castlevania: Rondo of Blood (TG-CD)
Devil's Crush
The Legendary Axe
Lords of Thunder (TG-CD)
Neutopia
Neutopia II
New Adventure Island
R-Type Complete CD (TG-CD)
Splatterhouse
Ys I & II (TG-CD)
Ys III: Wanderers from Ys (TG-CD)

Someone else can tell you if these games are actually good. I've only played Air Zonk (pretty enjoyable) and Rondo of Blood (excellent).

>>10077402
>Air Zonk

I believe it and Coryon use the Magical Chase engine. As in the NEC people were so enamored with it they used it for some other games. I would love to know the technical wizardry behind it, since the PCE stock does not natively support parallax scrolling like the SFC and MD does and it has to be done in software which is tricky.

>>10077410
>I would love to know the technical wizardry behind it

bro, its just strips of sprites lol. very good looking, but its the type of parallax that nes shooters had

games with legit impressive parallax are new adventure island and lords of thunder, which have actual background and foreground layers

>>10077402
most of those games are good but some are disappointing like bonk 3 (lazy romhack tier sequel), devils crush (better on genesis, actually beatable), and ys iii (better on genesis and x68000)

coryoon is a mustplay if you like air zonk. air zonk is essentially a spiritual sequel

>>10077393
a lot of TTI releases didn't even sell their full stock. they maintained a website for many years, selling off remaining warehouse stock

>>10078160
The point is that parallax scrolling is NOT natively supported by the PC Engine, and they're pulling it off on the base console (an 8-bit CPU mind you), not any of the fancy upgrades. That's genuinely impressive and something like 90% of PCE devs were not able to do it. I think by the end of its life only like 10-15 games had proper parallax scrolling.

Did you see the Ninja Gaiden remake? Genuine upgrade all around... but no parallax scrolling and it just looks flat and pathetic.

If the console could natively support it, then they could have done a better job competing with the MD and SFC.

What are the best platformers for PC-Engine? I take it I should start with Bonk?

>>10078258
Rondo of Blood, New Adventure Island, Dragon's Curse (which is an enhanced port of Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap), and the Bonk series are all good.

>>10078218
Ninja Gaiden got shafted in the re-release department. It got a Turbografx port with mostly upgraded (if a bit drab) graphics, but awful background scrolling and most of its awesome original soundtrack replaced for some reason. Then it got a SNES re-release with a pitiful visual remaster where they basically added two colors and called it a day, along with lame 16-bit versions of the NES music. Why couldn't they have just taken the Turbografx version's graphics and improved on that?

What they really should've done was re-released the trilogy on Sega CD, with a glorious early-90s MIDI soundtrack and proper anime cutscenes to show the leap in technology.

>>10064408
>actually works
incredible

you belong in jail
its literally autistically complete

>>10053350
This game was great and better than its sequel which is weird by comparison since it is such a departure to the point they don't even seem like the same series at all. Which I am sure was the point anyways to make them not be connected at all.

The ending labyrinth level though is way too unnecessarily long. The game could have definitely did without that bullshit messing up the pace of the game for the absolute worse.

>>10078258
>What are the best platformers for PC-Engine?

Good and cute tier:
>Fushigi no Yume no Alice

Jank but soullful tier:
>Faussete Amour

Girl action tier:
>Valis series

Jank with soul but doesn't get good until III:
>The Shubibinman series

Cute but okay with unique mechanics:
>Dragon's Egg

Good remake tier:
>New Adventure Island

Multi-plat tier:
>The New Zealand Story

>>10078168
>a lot of TTI releases didn't even sell their full stock. they maintained a website for many years, selling off remaining warehouse stock

So I really want to know how big the print run was, and how many they sold. I think 1993 was right then TG was dying, so they likely just never sold most of them. All my time online I've come across a single person in a youtube comment claiming they owned the game. There must be only like a few thousand copies out there or something.

>>10078168
>coryoon is a mustplay if you like air zonk. air zonk is essentially a spiritual sequel

I believe it's literally the same engine, which is why they wanted the mascot character to use it out of nowhere.

>>10068530
>>10056059
bin+cue, cue+wav, img, iso

>>10078258
liquid kids
parasol stars
momotaro katsugeki
bonk 2
sonson ii
new adventure island

>>10078745
>Liquid kids
Based

New Zealand story was cute too

>>10078807
>New Zealand story was cute too

shame, the port could've been a lot better. it's playable at least. but seriously, the sound and colors are whack, and plenty of missing enemies/items

the megadrive port is much more arcade accurate but has its own issues as well (like the nightmarish level design based on the arcade prototype, and an entire boss missing)

>>10078670
Do I need to combine all the bins?

>>10078352
>You belong in jail
You wouldn't download a car

>>10078963
multi-bins all go in their own folder, same as any cd game with multiple files. krikzz has a manual on his site

Why is game sack obsessed with this console, seems like he sarcastically hates everything on it and anime in general

>>10080926
Spriggan mark 2
Simple as

>>10080926
joe was a mod on the pc engine forums, despite having an obvious preference for sega, lol

>>10078914
Are you serious? Pc engine port is way better than the mega drive one

>>10053362
Is there even any easy ways to acquire a CRT at this point?

>>10081184
>tinny, high pitched music
>horrible colors, especially some ugly ass re-colored bosses
>no bonus letters
>missing enemies
>missing weapons
>missing vehicles
>missing levels

the main benefit unlike the MD one is that it has the doll boss, and it has the normal level design

liquid kids was a much better port in comparison

>>10079592
Thanks!

"Core" shooter fans will gush about those games, but more casual console owners will focus more on console only shoooters and Axelay always makes it to SFC top shooters lists. Pretty good not great game. The top down stages are a bit fugly in my opinion.

I tend to NOT be some super deep shooter fan, so I like the games that are not technically the best but I enjoy them. My list of console shooters from that era I like:

>Magical Chase
>Cotton: Fantastical Night Dreams
>Keio Flying Squadron (not the best ,but has charm)
>Gleylancer
>Gynoug
>Sylphia
>Mr. Heli
>Coryoon

Tend to be flying/shooting and more about cute setting than space.

>>10077402
Wtf are you me I've played through almost all of those (or at least played them) just looking at games that looked cool

>>10052462
anybody have those japanese magazine pages that make fun of PC Engine users as being porn-addicted otaku coomers?

>>10082573
I can tell from the format it's from Used Games magazine, later called Gameside. it's a 90's to 2010 game magazine, and not a retro console at the time, but looking back at least a decade. Solid game magazine and hope someone scans the whole thing.

I really need to figure out what to play on this.

>>10083678
developers that had tons of pce games
>hudson
>taito
>namco
>NCS/masaya
>irem
>falcom
>naxat (published a ton of shit)
>compile

konami and capcom had a much smaller presence but still some good stuff. there's even a bunch of sega games

>>10082573
It was funny but I didn't save it
Or agree with it kek

Is the everdrive pro or the hd system the better device for playing cd games on a base pc engine?

>>10059146
Looks like a generic Master System action game.

>>10062838
It was seen as a Otaku Weebshit machine, even in Japan

>>10085178
Here’s SNES to round out the trio

>>10052462
galaga 90

>>10079206
>t. histrionic retard that can't pick up on social cues
He was saying that anon is "crazy cool" because his library is autistically complete and all of the games work flawlessly on his set.

>>10087019
Isn't >>10079206 joking? It's a pretty common joke...

>>10052462
Literally ever multiplat game that came to pce fun cd is better. Also pretty much anything that someone has bothered taking the time to translate is worth playing unlike other systems. I particularly enjoyed Private Eye dol

>>10087019
>>10087056
Both are memes/jokes
"You wouldn't download a (blank)" is some oldfag meme making fun of antipiracy ads
"You wouldnt download a bear" etc

'u belong in jail' = trumposting probably who knows

I have spent too much time on this faggy website

>>10085178
>>10085183
Kind of love that Sega fans are seen as Westaboos, PC Engine fans as creepy otaku weebs, and Super Famicom as normalfags, it all makes sense.

>>10083780
could only find one vs video and it's in spanish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI1eVakHE9U

since they're new and expensive most people aren't going to get both when they do the same thing. better to look up reviews for each one


I have the ted pro and I'll just say you won't get any cd audio on the white pce without a add on like the edfx or a rgb mod on the rf port. ss3 pro will probably work better out of the box but everdrive+edfx is cheaper

>>10052462
Is there a game on the pc engine that's similar to heavy weapon? Not a plane schmup but a tank I guess?
>>10087197
>"You wouldn't download a (blank)" is some oldfag meme making fun of antipiracy ads
Yeah, that's exactly why I was confused. It feels like anons stopped having a sense of humor. Been here since 2006 or so
>>10087216
It's funny as fuck.

>>10087979
>heavy weapon
Pic related?
Seems kinda like the Assault Suits series ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Suit ) but not sure there's anything quite like that on PC Engine.

>>10088120
Yeah, something like that. There was another game similar but I don't remember or know if pc engine had one. Thanks!

>>10083780
i though the SD system had audio fuckups and they never fixed them

check gamesacks review he splits hairs & gets into it
maybe its not a big deal for you

>>10088120
>>10088170
pce has a few mech games
blood gear is one of the best games of the generation, it's basically zelda 2 with mechs

browning is shit, but its easy to get through

mad stalker is a beat'emup
veigues is an auto-scroller that's pretty in depth

>>10087178
pce has a lot of great multiplats, but it still had some major fuckups like golden axe and strider

>>10089335
ah, veigues seems decently similar to heavy weapon

>>10087216
>as normalfags
Are jocks and cool guys normalfags? I've been on here so long I can't remember.

It was the console if you enjoyed shooting games and/or what the kids call anime tiddies.