/vr/ - Retro Games

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emulate

>>10040818
flashcarts

You need to rip off gullible customers making them believe that their games are shit and worthless that's how you gain profits in this market

If you live in a big city good fucking luck because hoarders already got most of them

>>10040818
persistently going to yardsales, thrift stores, antique shops, local goodwill and salvation armies. Even if you dont find the title you;re looking for you may find something worth enough to trade pretty quickly. Found a sealed Evergrace and looking to trade it for a dual hearts.

>>10040818
fleah markets
car sales
cash converters
rebuy
and place like that.

>>10040845
This dried up a long time ago in most areas. Yard sales are still an option but thrift stores and flea markets are all "I know what I have" tier now.

>>10040818
You don't, nowadays. Even retarded boomers have cottoned on to how inflated pricing has gotten on retro games.

>>10040835
This is the only real solution.

>>10040992
It happened the exact moment those clickbait "Check Your Attic For These Games!" articles started popping up on YouTube. It ended up fucking over common ass game prices because not knowing anything the people who would have otherwise let stuff go for a fair price will now sit on their beat up cart only copy of Ducktales for NES until someone pays the $45 they're asking for. And they won't budge because they think everything is worth a mint so obviously they're being swindled. Which ironically causes prices to rise because someone somewhere will end up paying it, and you end up in the mother of all bubbles that we're currently in.

>>10041006
*Facebook, not YouTube.

Vimms, archive.org, the list goes on...

>>10040985
>I know what I have
I hate these fucks.

>someone somewhere will end up paying it
I don't understand how this works with auctions though. $150 is the most I'll ever pay for a game. I tried for Bomberman 64 Second Attack and sure as shit people were bidding upwards of $280 for it. If you're going to max bid within $15-$20 of a buy it now listing then just take the buy it now listing and give people a chance to get it at a lower price.

>>10041027
What auctions? Ebay is like 90% Buy-It-Nows. What everyone does these days is just look for completed listings and pick out the most recent and/or highest number and then slap a matching price tag on their shit. They still used to do this back when it was an auction site but the damage was limited because even though it was relatively inflated due to Ebay being worldwide and your random thrift store being in a random spot in a random town, it was still based on a relatively democratic pricing system. Now there is literal self-dealing and fraud going on in the second hand market with WATA and Heritage Auctions shenanigans.

Right now video games are going through what comic books went through in the 90s. Some half-truths, limited information, and outright misinformation trickled into the public consciousness and there's now rampant speculation. It's gotten to the point that just being video game related at all will cause a thrift store to put it aside in a special section and inflate the price to the point it will sit there for months.

>>10041043
Yeah, do not buy retro games unless it is something that's well under the original MSRP. Prices are set by a combination of speculation and insider trading.

Their property their price

>>10041081
I mean we all like to wax on about prices, but honestly 90 percent of retro games are cheaper now and your dollar is inflated compared to the msrp back then so if you stuck to that you actually wouldn’t have complaints. The complaint is “oh lawd I want a physical copy right now!!!” Then yea for select titles u may have to pay a little more. People just mad you can’t get super Mario world for a dollar anymore, it still only goes for like 20.

Im a lifelong garage saler. You can still find them there but this year many people asking much higher prices. The best way to get them now is ask at a sale that has no games or related stuff out. They are the ones that still dont know the value and will sell for cheap.

>>10041270
$20 for Super Mario World is crazy though. Even Mario/Duck Hunt is like $10 now when just a few years ago you couldn't give those away. The floor for the hobby jacked up something like 500%, which ends up making it impossible to just casually be into it. It wasn't that long ago you could buy lots. Some guy asking $30 for a box of games. Sure, they weren't anything special and you may have doubles but it was a box of games cheap enough that you didn't really care what was in it and the doubles made for good trade bait. That's just not a thing anymore. And it wasn't gradual. Prices climbing slowly over time is normal and we've seen the ebb and flow. This was practically overnight in comparison. That's not the effects of ordinary inflation.

It's weird when you can't just search online for the best price and click buy now isn't it? Spending actual effort for something like this. Scary concept for a zoomer.

>>10041309
also thrift stores are dead for games. I amassed an incredible collection over the years, now goodwill does not put any games out, they all go to some high priced retail store or online.
Smaller thrifts mostly caught on as well, they usually have more time and less inventory than the major stores so they are looking everything up now. If you have the money you can advertise and buy big collections for 30-%50 of value depending on the quality.
I have been doing this kind of thing a long time in many categories. Video games got way too much attention as a high dollar easy flip. You can still find incredible bargains on other collectibles, you must be ahead of the curve.
Another problem is the number of reseller has increased dramatically thanks to social media and too many wagies needing extra money.
retards giving away all their secrets. The path of the grifting reseller treasure hunter used to be very secretive. The internet is pandoras box and there is no going back.

>>10041337
The key is to hit the mid-size thrift stores. The ones that are big enough to be a chain, but not big enough for corporate to want to dedicate the effort to looking up game prices.

>>10041337
and its posts like these and more importantly, that attitude keeps people from checking in. I developed some relationships and even made a business card for any of the older women running the thrift shops could call me and I could appraise it for them. Just have to adapt w the times but just putting yourself out there will get you some good deals and good finds. We all know gamers aren't inclined to do that kind of thing though

>>10041337
Zoomer YouTubers ruined it by being socially incompetent and not realizing that getting a deal and then bragging about what a deal you got within earshot of the people you just bought it from could JUST MAYBE be interpreted as a tad rude. They have no poker face or restraint. They'll snicker during the transaction as a random boomer sells them a Gunstar Heroes for $5, enough that the guy knows something is up just not exactly what. But you sure as hell can bet he looked up the game afterwards to see what all that weirdness was about before feeling burned. It doesn't even have to be especially amazing deals, either. These kids will do that over perfectly normal priced items as they personally insult the person behind the counter through their attitude that conveys "I'm smarter than you because I know what I'm buying and you don't know what you're selling."

>>10041361
What Zoomtubers are like this?

>>10041361
Shit I’d be impressed if they could manage the courage to go to a yard sale or dingy thrift store.

>>10040818
Get a time machine and go back to 2009. It's literally over if you didn't get in before 2015 at the absolute latest.

>>10041441
GameStop was a goldmine from like 2008-2011. They had a bazillion stores with so much stock PS2 and Gamecube games were practically falling out of the ceiling. You could get a dozen games for a song. And because there were so many stores it became very easy to recognize rarity because you could hit 15 spots in a single afternoon and if a game only showed up in one or two of them you had a pretty good idea it wasn't very common and might be worth picking up. I got decent games like Dual Hearts, Go Go Hypergrind, and several NIS RPGs this way. Everything was priced to move.

>>10040818
My rom site, they're totally free.

>>10041452
Yep. It was before thrift stores looked anything up online so it was all a buck or two for each game regardless of title. It also helped there were way less people looking for /vr/ so you could score at pretty much any thrift store, flea market, garage sale, or CL ad. I miss those days so much.

>>10041043
Different anon but I have what I think is a good example of artificial price inflation, which is Harmful Park on the PS1. Noticed this last night as I was watching videos on JP-only PS1 games. What kind of game goes from having no recorded sales to being instantly traded at $600? Even LSD traded at around $200-$300 before it's big popularity boom. Seems to support the idea that on some scale these titles are being artificially limited/inflated.

>>10041441
This is for personal use. I'm just not into the offerings of today so I'm going back to games I missed like Tron Bonne. Have Legends 1 and 2 but missed out on Tron. Didn't even know it was a game until neatly a decade later and now it's ~$300.

There are still deals to be found online and there are people who aren't aware of the value of this stuff nowadays, wives selling off their husband's old collection etc.
Problem is you have to sit refreshing and sniping listing sites all day

if there is so much demand then the prices are correct.

>>10041698
There isn't. It is a manipulated market.

>>10041658
Just buy ODEs and flashcarts and skip collecting all together. Had it been an option when I started I'd never have spend tens of thousands of old carts and discs that are probably going to stop working long before I die someday. Buy a $30 PS1 with a bum drive, buy an Xstation for $100 and pay a modder $50 to install it. All together its cheaper than Legends 2 or Tron Bonne and you can have the rest of the PS1 library at your fingertips.

>>10041698
>games you can literally play for free for a virtually 1:1 experience
There is absolutely nothing correct about those prices lol.

It's actually pretty easy, you can just search "PS1 ROM collection" on google and get all of them for free.

>>10040818
You either get lucky or you emulate.

>>10041645
Yeah, and that's been sustained for three years. A random spike here and there because something happened to make a game hot isn't that weird. It happened to Dragon Ball GT Final Bout once DBZ took off. FFVII also doubled in price overnight after Advent Children came out and took about a year to settle back down. Every so often a random game will turn out to be critical to installing CFW so there's a rush on it, etc. But when things like that happen the cause is usually obvious and targeted. I don't know of anything in pop culture that would have caused Harmful Park to skyrocket like that and then sustain that price. But shit like that is happening everywhere.

If I were brand new to the used market I could be forgiven for not thinking anything was suspect. But I saw Atari VCS games go up and down, I saw the gradual shift in the NES market over time. I saw the Genesis staying relatively stable while the SNES spiked because of the Nintendo Tax, etc. But then out of nowhere everything went nuts. Genesis went crazy overnight. Castlevania Bloodlines for $170? What gives? Castlevania is a dead franchise now. There's no new game release driving that. That game was a stable $40 for over a decade. People will be like "inflation, bro!" as if inflation wasn't a thing before 2020. It's not like the used market was notoriously unstable beforehand. It definitely unnatural.

>>10041698
I'm really not sure there's that much demand. I think what's happening is there's a closed loop and the market is trapped in a half-deliberate, half-accidental ponzi scheme. Everyone who bought high refuses to sell low so they hold out until they find a mark who comes in late and willingly pays the asking price. But then they have trouble selling and so you end up with a market with very high prices but very little movement. A game that used to change hands a lot over time is now being tied up by people waiting on the best possible price.

>>10041754
To clarify, the prices have pushed out most regular people. All the people in this thread annoyingly saying "emulate" are right. That's exactly what people are doing. Or they're just normies satisfied with whatever's on NSO. I still buy games from time to time but not anywhere close to what I used to. Not because I wouldn't like to but simply because I refuse to pay $80 for fucking Mario Kart Double Dash. I'm sure a lot of people are in that same boat. They're just opting out, which shrinks the market.

>>10041713
This, just don’t pay someone to do it for you. Practice soldering a bit then do it yourself like a real man.

>>10041330
I could post a pic but literally because the local antique store knows me they just called and I got a wii, nes and a bunch of nes titles for 50. Even told them the contra title they had goes for 75 and they didn’t care. Idk if you put yourself out there for 5 months just ur local areas people will call. Sometimes they just want it gone.

>>10041452
Trade u for that dual hearts for my sealed Evergrace ;)

>>10041810
Here’s the contra game I got w the systems. It looks like it goes for 130 so more than I thought

>>10040818
This isn't the wisest method, but I live near a used game store that accepts cash or credit for trade-ins. I try to sell them something every time I go so I can gauge both how much I have and what I'm looking for. I usually get around $50-$80 in credit for everything I sell, but there was one time where I hit $200 and I got both God Hand and Skies of Arcadia Legends. They've also started accepting Lego sets recently, so I've been selling a few, cashing out for less than I would if I got credit, and just saving the money for other things.
It's a bit of a crackhead way of going about it, and I never know what I'm expecting when I go up there. Still, I've had a few steals in recent memory.
>Captcha: 4K00YS

>>10041815
Thanks but I have a copy of Evergrace already.

>>10040818
>learn japanese
>buy japanese copy
alternatively you could buy entire video game lots and sell off the extra garbage you don't want. then you could end up making a net profit.

>>10042224
This

RETROGAMES ARE HISTORY MAN YOU CAN'T JUST GET THEM FOR A REGULAR CONSUMER PRICE THIS LATE!

>>10040818
Tron is too charming.

>>10041330
Why do you faggots refuse to believe that there is a sizable market that prefers /vr to modern video games and that it's growing? Yes there's some fuckery going on with graded video games but nobody buys that overpriced garbage and non graded games sell for far less. Some games have always been expensive due to limited print runs, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance was going for near $150 all the way back in gen 7. Chrono Trigger was going for $150-$200 cib in gen 5. The only reason there was a slight drop in price was due to an excess in inventory from people selling shit coupled with low demand in the late 00's. I swear you guys are worse than /x posters, take your fucking meds.

>Fair price
What is even that? You are either going to pay for the price they're going for or wasting your time hopping around in garage sales that the "outrageous" price you saw before would have been more economically efficient time wise. These games have a lower print run and/or ownership. It isn't as likely you'll find them, but more common games. At that point you might as well become a reseller to recoup the costs of going from one dud place to the next not finding the rare games you seek.

>>10042559
Emulation in general helps with prices, regardless if it isn't official or some sort of official re-release.

>>10042539
Tron Bonne is just visually very appealing. I've been enamored with her and Hsien Ko's (also Capcom) designs ever since seeing articles about their games in Game Informer back in the day.

Anything non Nintendo is pretty cheap in Europe. Can still find good deals for PS1, OG Xbox and anything Sega

>>10040841
Bingo. I’ll share a few tips. If you got time, take a road trip and hit up yard sales, pawn shops, and estate sales in every town you go through. I do this literally to make a living, I don’t just buy games though.

>>10042559
>Chrono Trigger was going for $150-$200 cib in gen 5
And it's over a grand now. That's not really comparable. Trigger launched at $80 so for the most part it essentially doubled in price and then stayed there for years. Expensive yes, but it was rational market behavior.

>>10042567
>These games have a lower print run and/or ownership.
Not necessarily. Gamecube has gone insane. Double Dash is steadily climbing as we speak and they printed millions of those. You could retire on a stash of Pokemon games and, again, they're common as shit. It's not scarcity driving the prices, it's insanity.

>>10042806
You’re right it is insanity. True story: guy wants a GameCube. I tell him you could spend 20 bucks on a wii and buy a gamecube controller plays 99 percent of cube games, basically an overclocked GameCube anyway. Man still would rather spend 200 on just a GameCube. Hard working family man, doesn’t give a shit if the wii did all the same things he just literally wants a cube.

>>10042806
Is that so? I picked up a JVC l'Art out of some old fellow's home which was hooked up in a basement bedroom with a GameCube that wasn't being used. Came with Luigi's Mansion, Double Dash, Sunshine, and there was also a trashed loose copy of NFL Blitz 2003 which is a shame because for sportsball it's a good entry. He wanted the TV gone and said his son wasn't interested in the system so the TV was listed for free with a free console as an incentive. No there wasn't money, drugs or car keys in the expansion bays.

>>10041730
>>10041703
>>10041754
then stop crying and emulate the games like everyone else. if there is no market for the games the prices will drop eventually

>>10043598
I already got all the games I want before the bubble. You're the retard who takes this shit at face value.

>>10042567
A loose game with no should never exceed $100. Box and manual I understand high prices but a lose copy? Get that into the hands of someone who is going to play it.

A loose game should never exceed $100. Box and manual with an intact label in good condition I understand high prices, but a lose copy that floated around in a kids backpack in the day and has changed hands several times? Get that into the hands of someone who is going to play it.

I have a friend who owns a stall at at local swap meet flea market thing. He gives me under the table deals, or some free stuff too for some solder work.

>>10040818
All games are free

>>10040818
Yard sales from moms cleaning out their kid's rooms and selling their things without telling them

>>10042224
I've been surprised and pleased by how cheap Japanese games still are. I usually emulate but when you're being offered a copy of one of your favorite games of all time for less than ten bucks it's hard to say no.

>>10042539
>>10042578
it's not just hers, other characters from it too- their outfits are just too good

>>10040818
>RARE GAMES
>FAIR PRICE
t. picrel.
you do understand that if the prices are fucked, they are fucked everywhere, right? because if they are way cheaper somewhere, people would just buy from there and resell. prices were fucked before, today in past COVID era they are fucked even beyond that.

>>10045585
Damn bro, I just want to play Bomberman and Tron Bonne. Sitting on a game for years waiting for the going price keeps these games out of circulation.

>>10045585
>>10046110
Yes, I want to 90s plastic as I still have the original systems. It's a curse.

>>10044424
That's because there's a deranged collector aspect of it. Japanese games don't "complete the collection". Generally if a Japanese game is super expensive, it is legitimately that rare.

>>10041698
>>10041254
retro games are not stocks, you buy them to play not sell

>>10046712
ok but incels like you keep buying them to ``collect" so the prices charged are being paid. if you had any brains you would emulate and there would be no market for this shit
>b-b-b-but muh scammerino!! muh price fixerino!!!
yeah hmmm i guess that's why beanie babies are still so valuable even without any demand. oh wait no... no they are not

>>10046751
What is the price of a "rare" beanie baby these days anyway?

>>10046751
>incel
>using spain talk
you forgot your $0yjak sir.
no i don't collect i play games that i buy, also i use ODEs and flashcarts most of the time

>>10046791
about three fifty

>>10046791
Ommmg it's gon be either little samson or dat flintstones game!

>>10041006
>hidden gems!

>>10046791
>get a divorce because you live in Divorceland
>go to lawyer Isaac Shekelberg
>now let's divide the consoomerist crap
is this the most American photo in existence? I hear this theme just looking at it https://youtu.be/7w1mq6rAfMM

>>10040818
you buy them 15 years ago.

>>10047915
It do be like that. Why there's an 80% chance I'm never getting married; that's being generous.

>>10048260
I'll get Doc Brown on the phone

>>10040818
They bot ebay or scam old grannies

>>10043131
kill wii faggots. Wii representa everything wrong with modern nintendo

>>10043131
>plays 99 percent of cube games
I had no idea there was 1% that didn't work until now. I assume it's nothing good?

>>10040818
The only move a smart person will do is just pirate the shit out of everything at this point. There's no other source for reasonable games anymore

>>10044456
Good god that crotch plate gets me going so bad

>>10040831
Based and cute.