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>Super Mario Bors
I prefer Sanic Hegehog, thnx

no, Sonic is just a worse Mario

>>10030041
No pinball ball mechanics, not a Sonic game.

>>10030041
What if super mario brothers had an extensive tutorial given through voice acted text boxes and then stopped all gameplay every 30 minutes so you could watch a cutscene and had extensive cutscenes at the end of every world also what if instead of being split into different worlds, all levels were on one world map with no connecting paths or guidance, and the game made no visual distinguishment between castle levels and regular ones. also toadhouses give you fun sidequests like "Stomp 10 goombas" and "stomp the same koopa shell twice"

do you think that would be better?

>>10030041
Sanic is for niggers. Literally any scotformer is better than it, even Kirby.

SMB1 is good for what it was, but you're a fool if you think it stands up to Sonic 1, let alone 2 or 3.

>>10030082

>>10030082
Bussin ludokino, on god no cap.
Even better if they include gacha for skins and season pass for more content.

>>10030041
That isn't what makes Sonic good. It has 16-bit graphics and FM audio blasting at you with rotating special stages, layered backgrounds, paralax scrolling, wave effects underwater (JP version only), and a totally new type of gameplay not seen in any platformer before it. It's like a roller coaster that you control.

That on top of the character himself with his spunky attitude and mohawk which is like Max Fleischer meets 90's skate punk. Maybe just watch the (superior) movie and figure out what makes Sonic so cool. If anything at least compare it to SMW or something, at least they came out around the same time.

>>10030041
>they even give you a times
bull fucking shit, no game could ever have a times

>>10030082
What game is this referencing?

>>10030041
What the fuck is Super Mario Bors?

>>10030041

>>10030041
Are you Chinese or something

>>10030041
Super Mario Bros is fun because of momentum, and it has that in common with Sonic. What you are noticing is developers realizing momentum mechanics are fun to play with in platformers, compared to static-speed games that were prevalent.

>>10031128
Sonic Adventure 2 or Heroes, I believe.

>>10030271
Anyone that puts 64 on the same level as World doesn't deserve to live.

>>10031485

>>10031216

>>10030041
SMB is so mid, I prefer megaman.

No because physics in every Mario is inferior to sonic

Mario 1 is objectively bad

>>10032325
Fuck you, you suck

>>10030271
Sonic 1 was fun, Sonic 2 is where the series peaked, and everything after has been progressively worse to the point that only autistic furfags play sonic games anymore
>Mario 64
>Smb3
>Smw
>Smb2
>Sonic 2
>Sonic1
>Smb1
>Sonic 3
>Yoshi trash

>>10030271
Mario Land belongs in S tier because it has the greatest soundtrack on the gameboy.

>>10030041
meds

>>10030041
I never understood why people liked Sonic. Most mario games can be finished in a single run with mediocre reflexes and common sense. The shitty Sonic games require you to memorize the maps, specially in fast segments. They are supposedly casual platformers yet Sonic games require memorization of maps. I guess Nintendo understood since then that making games easy to pick is key in the VG market.

>>10039119
You don't need to memorize Sonic levels unless you want to blast through them without stopping. If you play at a reasonable pace you shouldn't have a problem on your first playthough.
>but the whole point is going fast!
Imagine if someone watched a Mario 64 video where the guy was doing all of these cool jumps and tricks and playing the levels flawlessly. Then they went to go play for theirself but when they try the tricks it doesn't work. They fall into pits and keep getting hit by enemies and it's not as cool as the videos. Then they go online and bitch about it.
That's what it feels like when people complain about the Sonic games being too fast. Just because the game lets you go super fast it doesn't mean (You)'re ready to play that well yet.

>>10030041
I can't really play this game anymore, played it a lot when I was little, but it's so infantilized, Care Bears is darker than Mario and that isn't an exaggeration

>mario: hold right and time your jumps to avoid the obstacles
>sonic: hold right and go through all the loop de loops and other set pieces while you drool all over yourself pretending your inputs matter

>>10039241
Well, some people like to pretend Mario games are for an older audience than they are. But the truth is, Mario games are for kids about 3-5, while Sonic is more like 6-13

>>10030041
Sonic was always a glorified tech demo. Loads of technological flash, but the gameplay always lacked. As time went on, the tech behind new Sonic games ceased to be impressive, and people realized Sonic's gameplay was never really that good.

>>10039261
To be quite honest, Mario games were never very good. Along with Kirby and any game with Yoshi in the title, it was always a gateway into gaming but one people with taste quickly moved on from as their age advanced passed 5 into cooler games like Sonic and Mega Man or Mega Man X, or even Crash Bandicoot if they were a bit younger

>>10039119
>memorize
there's a cute part of the dpad called down pad, press it and you will roll, when you are rolling you get more speed when you have speed from an slope or booster and you are invincible, something that makes you go fast and not have any chance to be stopped by enemies, at the same time you will see in a bit that you are a retarded by not understanding something that animals like woodlouses understand correctly.

>>10040082
he's complaining because she's too slow to react to the on screen enemies of Sonic. This is why he prefers Mario, games for a much younger audience. It makes sense.

>>10039241
until you have to move to the left, jump, roll, evade enemies, enter into small holes, solve an small puzzle, press a switch, find a giant ring, dodge more complex attacks, stop momentum at the right moments, explore, break a wall or jump towards other enemies with momentum

>>10040089
the issue is that you don't need to have more reaction in comparison to a mario game, you just to have 2 fingers on the front and simply rolling when you have the chance, reaction on both mario and sonic help but if you don't know how to jump and attack you will lose not matter the reflexes you have.

>>10030041
>school ends for the summer
>board quality significantly drops
Hmm

>>10031128
Probably Sonic 06