/vr/ - Retro Games

Yes yes and yes. OG Sims has a different mood and aesthetic over its sequels, packs a bit of social commentary thats absent from the sequels, and its by far the hardest game.

I started with the original right at the start of the pandemic, after getting laid off. I figured I'd play it for a day or two, then move on to something else. Instead I got hard addicted and binge played it for two weeks straight, and then moved onto the Sims 2, which I've been playing on and off ever since. Give the OG a shot, OP.

>>10024962
>"social commentary" as a selling point
I will not play your game

>>10024992
No one is selling you a 20 year old game on /vr/.

>>10024946
The Sims 1 has my favorite aesthetic when it comes to the buildings and objects, and the overall mood, but the gameplay has clear flaws.
I personally don't it's bad enough to not give it a shot, it has its charm. That said, Sims 2 is overall a way better experience, even if I hate its aesthetic.

>>10024946
woman game. imagine playing this shit when you could've been playing quake 3 or starcraft.

>>10025013
I played both. What's wrong with that?

>>10025013
sims is only a woman game from 2 onwards

>>10025013
Thanks for the bump, I guess?

i thought sims 2 was best in the series, but after discovering that night life expansion breaks the game completely where you can farm want points infinitely by doing dates, i realized sims 2 is trash. sims 1 looks like to be best sims if you want challenging gameplay

>>10024992
>selling
anon, it's abandonware.....

>>10024992
>>10025013

>>10025013
I can't kill children in Quake 3 or Starcraft but I can in The Sims.

>>10024946
The Sims is full of soul just don't install anything past the Living Large expansion.

sul sul!

>>10024992
>social commentary
No one is trying to sell you an ancient game that's not available on any modern store. Also, social commentary was usually funny or interesting 20+ years ago

I prefer Sims 2, the daily goals are fun.

>>10024946
2 is a lot better, especially once you get Nightlife which has cars. 3 is also neat as it has the seamless world to explore. I really miss playing these games, though you can get a similar experience from Animal Crossing or Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons.

>>10025696
>though you can get a similar experience from Animal Crossing or Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons.
I'm going to have to strongly disagree with this. You can get "cozy and relaxed" from all of them but the experiences are very different.

>>10024946
It's hard as fuck to maintain all their needs. You have to have many friends to get a better job and study and piss and everything takes hours.

It's a charming game for sure.

>>10024946
It's got a lot of charmed that got ironed out of the later games when they started getting greedy with the series. It's been so long since I played I can't remember the specifics but it's definitely worth checking out.
The pathfinding is atrocious though. Truly awful.
It's also harder than later games and especially Sims 4, and that can be kinda fun.

>>10025654
Why not? Does installing all of the expansions break the game?

>>10024996
>>10025526
>>10025687
"selling point" doesn't inherently mean literally selling a commercial product for money you fucking ESL retards. You can "sell" someone on an idea.
"You should watch this show, it's great" "well you've sold me on it" is a completely normal exchange and so is using the phrase "selling points" to describe claims brought up to metaphorically "sell" you on something.
Cambridge dictionary:
>sell someone on something, phrasal verb, to persuade someone that something is good, valuable, or useful
Merriam Webster:
>selling point, noun, an aspect or detail of something that is emphasized (as in selling or promoting)
God I forget how dense you fuckers are sometimes, can't use the slightest bit of non-literal speech

hell yeah im gonna play it right now, that latin theme

>>10025953
>Autists? In MY retro gaming board on 4chan?
More likely than you think

3 > 1 > 4 > 2
You should give it a try OP

>>10025013
>Game about building and playing god is for women.
Did you even think about what you said?

>>10025963
4 wont even run on retro machines. it can barely run on my gt9800 at 30fps in 720p with all minimal graphics

>>10024946
Yeah, the original Sims is the TEXTBOOK definition of Soul. You want to know what people mean when they say soul play the original Sims, holy shit the music alone takes me back to the late 90s/early 00s period.

https://youtu.be/Bs5QGN-zhwM
I actually had this music play at my wedding since I loved it so much. One other person knew what it was, it was otherwise just a nice bit of pianowork.

>>10024946
Good music, good atmosphere, it's just good.

>>10024946
you can always make them suffer in creative ways

>>10024992
>>10025953
Too bad
you WILL acknowledge and praise Drew Carey

>>10024946
I don't know as I stopped at the first expansion pack. That's when I checked out.

If I had to guess, the sequels probably have all kinds of extra scenarios, functionality and content. Sims 1 was the very, very beginning.

>>10024962
>>10024992
The dev has specifically stated they weren't making any real social commentary on anything, the original Sims might be one of the best apolitical games out there besides Nintendo games.

>>10026343
So all that stuff about it being a critique of capitalism is just fart-huffing?

>>10024946
Well I remember that soundtrack being comfy as fuck. I never played past Sims 2 so idk about your question.

>>10024946
sims 1 has a lot of charm, but in terms of gameplay it's really lacking in a lot of aspects, especially on the relationship side of things
it took until sims 2 for basic things like family relationships to be added
>>10025963
what the actuall fuck are you on

oh yeah and for sims 2 there's an fan installer for modern systems that Just Works (tm)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UT0HX3cO4xLft2KozGypU_N7ZcGQVr-54QD9asFsx5U/edit

>>10024946
Sims games for PC are a sandbox type of game. No clear/right goals and objectives. Reason why I prefer the console versions. These console versions can be beaten, has end credits and cinematics.

>>10025043
nigga even my (at the time of release 35 year old) mom played this shit when it came out.
I mean shit she still occasionally plays this one and RCT1 "because they are so stupid". Sims was always a woman game and always will be, still like'em.

>>10025043
Sims has been a dollhouse game from the very start. I read somewhere that they were even considering calling the game something to that effect but felt it would hurt sales with male players.

>>10026661
Off the back of this I recommend Bustin' Out for console and Sims 2 + Urbz for DS. Sims 2 DS had you running a hotel way out in the middle of the desert, a very surreal game.
>>10025963
Retard take.
>For overall game quality it's 2 > 1 > 3
>For soul it's 1 > 2 > 3
1 2 and even 3 are all worth playing. 4 is a fucking shit pile.

>>10025043
complete nonsense
I remember back in the day the official Sims site had user galleries which were just full of women making fake soap operas

>>10024946
I played Sims 1 again maybe ~20 years after the initial release since I loved the game so much when I was a kid.
Anyone who tells you it's better than 2/3 is a crackhead or a zoomer pretending to be an oldfag. "Soul" does make a game good.

>>10026115
>Am I a faggot trying to make the game sound less gay?
yes

thes smims

For me it's the fact that everything(except the character models) is prerendered, it makes for a much cleaner aesthetic

Also the expansions are just bloat, often times in videogames less is more, it allows the experience to be focused

>>10025953
>"selling point" doesn't inherently mean literally selling a commercial product for money
Yes it does.

https://gofile.io/d/7GOICs
Here's a download of pretty much all the free objects from https://sims1.aroundthesims3.com/

>>10026838
Couldn't get into 3, it feels like the soullessness of 4 was already creeping in, plus the engine is held together with straws and bubblegum

>>10027226
This, The Sims is at its kinoest as just the original game without expansions.

>>10027267
no patches either, the launch bugs were soul

>>10027273
that idk about. what I know is that I don't want fucking magic everywhere or meeting avril lavigne or ridiculous grim reaper or zombies or gigantic neighborhoods. it just takes away from the classic charm.

I'd recommend 2 over anything else.
It also has the best mods. Although 1 gives away the strongest retro vibes
>>10027186
You're still a useless nigger

>>10027267
The original game has two major problems:
>Not enough stuff to buy. You can max out all the most expensive gadgets without any real trouble.
>Never enough time to make friends.

I'd say Livin' Large, House Party, and Hot Date take care of these, but I never got into Vacation, Superstar, or Making Magic.

I like The Sims 1 the best because of the turn of the millennium aesthetics. No smart phones, blocky TV's, having people ring your doorbell...

>>10027651
I would be fine if they just introduced more decor but just in the first expansion they introduce shit like santa claus, the genie, the tragic clown, the grim reaper... it just cheapens the whole sims universe.

>>10027651
>having people ring your doorbell
they still ring, but you get locked out of your own house if they do

>>10027638
can your sim fuck her?

I enjoy the get a life mode on the soulful console ports, all of which beaty dubs all superior to the PCuck originals

>>10026610
But...sir... Why would I do all this when there is a torrent that contains repack of complete Sims 2 that just install itself and works?!

>>10027959
make sure you see what your repack is missing and download it, last I checked the different versions were incomplete for some reason

>>10026681
>>10026705
what i mean is it only started to *exclusively* cater to women from 2 onwards with the cutesy faux mall aesthetic

>>10027679
> they introduce shit like santa claus, the genie, the tragic clown, the grim reaper... it just cheapens the whole sims universe.
that wacky supernatural stuff is why i found sims to be interesting

>>10027651
>I'd say Livin' Large, House Party, and Hot Date take care of these, but I never got into Vacation, Superstar, or Making Magic.
Unleashed was the last expansion I remember playing. Superstar and Makin' Magic didn't interest me at all.

>>10027259
I agree with you, but the open-world factor is worth playing around with at least once; even if it is an illusion and really no different to instances, it convincgly gives the effect of a living world.

>>10024946
I had it on PS2 and I remember filling the house with stuff was my favourite bit but I couldn't fill it up as much as I wanted because there was a limit

>>10026409
Yeah

>>10026838
>Sims 2 for DS
It is crazy how many oddball games are in the series like this, usually with names that nobody would suspect are oddball games. This game is insane, it's not like any other Sims game I've ever played, all I remember is being in the desert, able to move my character, it had an action-adventure aesthetic, and aliens were everywhere

>>10028029
That bottom right one is totally fake, outside of someone making a Scream sim and having some sorta dialogue box pop-out. But the rest of the prank calls were great, shame they removed them as soon as the Sims 2.

>>10028029
prank calls are not supernatural

SOU

>>10027959
because that torrent probably doesn't include the mods you need to get it running on modern systems
the fan installer doesn't require a legit copy, it downloads the game itself and then applies a crack

I played the shit out of 2 and 3, also a bit of 1, 4 is where i stopped, sometimes i want a wacky paranormal game and other times something more down to earth, it sucks when you want to do the later and you see the place swarming with wizards and vampires, always wished it was toggleable or something, what i really liked was the background of the playable families and some people might hate me for this but i always felt cucked by the lack of a story mode, i understand this is a sandbox game but eh, liked the tidbits about the Goths and the other families the game gave.

>>10026838
>>10028812
Loved these as well for the reasons mentioned above, i downloaded The Sims 2 for PSP since it apparently ties with the PC version's story

>>10025808
Just make gnomes all day. Easy money and you stay home NEETing.

is it hard to setup on modern computers? I'd like to replay the classic game without expansions

i wish freeso was fun, and not so full of women and homosexuals

>>10030818
Not at all, just grab the complete collection and the widescreen patch from pcgamingwiki

>>10031814
>without expansions
Whoops just noticed this, in that case get the original disc image and use dgvoodoo2 with a no-cd patch

>>10031825
>dgvoodoo2
Any idea why the watermark won’t disappear even when selecting the option to turn it off? I used it recently while trying to troubleshoot the GoG version of pic related but decided to get rid of it because I couldn’t remove that goddamn watermark (also the game runs basically the same without it in any case).

>>10031853
Forgot pic

>>10031853
Couldn’t tell you, the option to disable the watermark has always worked fine for me. That’s strange.

>>10024962
sims 2 on console was different from on pc. it had missions where you move into peopels house and take voer their whole lives before moving to the next location

>>10025013
Dudes build houses, quickly get bored with the sims living in it and build another house.

I'm jealous of the people who were aware of the cheats. It was a nightmare to actually manage your sim and make money

In the sims 3 I like to spend all my money on a basement and just start out completely broke.
Sleep on benches at the park shower at the pool and steal food from picnics in the park.
Can't do that in sims 1 or 2.

>>10033309
I wish I could get Sims 3 to run smoothly. I've tried literally everything, followed all the guides, downloaded the smoothpatch, it's still stuttery. Apparently it just happens with some hardware.

>>10033314
Oh it never ruins smooth.
Ever.
It's always choppy as fuck.
It loads the entire map and swings it around that's why it's so choppy.
Probably why 4 runs so much better since it only loads portions of it.

>>10033320
Guess I've been gaslit into thinking it's possible to make it run buttery smooth.

>>10033314
>>10033321
Sims 3 is just kind of insanely terrible with it's performance, it not only has the longest loading screens but it also then has them whenever you do anything only to run like shit when it finally does load. There is no way to get around this you can run it on 20 year old hardware or brand spanking new hardware and it will take 3 days to load up the game then run at 15fps when it is loaded.
It sucks because I found Sims 3 to be one of the more enjoyable ones since 4 is shit and 2 is weird.

>>10033321
It sucks because Sims 3 IS the best game. But it’s so janky it ceases to be enjoyable. DESU I’ve always felt like they all have their own charm to them you know? Like every game is unique in some way. I mostly play the sims one just out of nostalgia. But they’re all kind of fun and different.

>>10024946
You can just play 2 and turn the aging off.

>>10033362
>>10033373
Sims 3 just seems like a really ambitious but ultimately failed experiment. Maybe if everything came together well it would have been the ultimate Sims game, but it's just too janky.

>>10033362
>it will take 3 days to load up the game
it's not anymore
when sims 3 came out most people still had hdds and it was ambitious game so it loaded very slowly, we talking actually 5-10 minutes. on ssds it's no longer a problem

>>10032964
and in retrospect getting into that perfect zen zone of money making loop is what good about this game

>>10032307
I built dungeons.

>>10026343
>>10026409
Indeed, it always seemed to me like they were just taking the piss. The game doesn't take itself seriously in the slightest, so why would there be any actual, unironic social commentary? It's always been light satire at best.

Why won't they rerelease the first one with widescreen hacks ? Do they hate money?

>>10033847
It's a really good opportunity when you think about it.
>Make it F2P
>Churn out isometric assets like no tomorrow
>Throw them all in a cash shop
>Make the Sims 1 world a "living", world i.e. like a persistent world server on GTA, Arma or m&b with online
It's bank waiting to happen surely. Persistent-style servers are super popular even on 15 year old games.

>You need to have X number of friends to get this job/promotion

>>10034379
it's not what you know, it's who you know

Finding out you(a male) could kiss and become romantically involved with another male sim must have been one of my earliest videogame induced boners

>>10026838
>Off the back of this I recommend Bustin' Out for console and Sims 2 + Urbz for DS. Sims 2 DS had you running a hotel way out in the middle of the desert, a very surreal game.
yeah i remember it was an ''art studio'' not a hotel. where you had to woohoo that crusty artist chick with the glasses with 3 other dudes.

>>10035054
that's in vanilla? nevermind uninstalled

>>10035191
You have to really go out of your way for homosex in Sims 1 though, I think I've only seen romance stuff happen autonomously between male/female sims otherwise.

>>10035340
romantic interactions only happen autonomously between sims who are already in love with each other, regardless of their current sexual orientation, and even then there are a bunch of them they'll never do on their own iirc. there's a reason why almost every sims 2 player still recommends acr
also it's worth mentioning you can't get two sims gay married in ts1 (unless there's a hacked object that can do it, idk), you can only ask them to move in. there are "joined unions" in ts2 which are virtually identical to regular marriages but you can turn them into the latter with a mod by twojeffs. after that point the series progressively got more pozzed as society went off the deep end, but ea and maxis have always been californian so who cares lol
>>10033847
i think ea just hates their "legacy" game portfolio and would prefer to forget it exists in favor of selling you their special modern day brand of digital aids, but they sell stuff like sc2k, 3k, 4 and spore on gog, so fuck if i know.
>>10028709
>the rest of the prank calls were great, shame they removed them as soon as the Sims 2
good news: https://lazyduchess.tumblr.com/post/635283461660360704/hi-hope-youre-doing-well-do-you-think-it-would

Real talk, how the fuck do you play this on a modern PC? I have fucking tried and failed, specially after following a guide on how.

>>10035743
Magipack dot games has the sims complete edition, just download and install, compatible with win10, have fun

>>10035747
i'll try it, but im pretty sure i've tried this one before and it didn't work.

>>10035753
yea the game loads up and then never finishes loading when you try to go into the game, just like I remembered. I didn't change anything after the install either. Just doesn't work on windows 10.

>>10035776
tried it again
>went to go create a new family
>game crashes

>>10035743
sims 1 is one of the few games i actually run in a win2k/xp vm, mostly because it runs surprisingly well ootb and the complete collection shits itself and thinks you've uninstalled an expansion if you use system restore for some reason. i haven't tried playing it natively in a while but i could only make it tolerable on modern hardware by running it with dgvoodoo2 and the widescreen patcher if you want that, i swear to god ts1 used to run fine on every pc i tried installing it on, and then one day i had a bitch of a time setting it up on windows 8.1 and it's been problematic ever since. it's not just a win10+ thing, i'm pretty sure modern nvidia/amd drivers just hate old maxis games or something. simcity 3000 has a similar issue with laggy menus for no apparent reason that i couldn't fix with dgvoodoo iirc, simcity 4 needs dgvoodoo as well, sims 2 has the infamous black shadow bug and inexplicable pink flashing that no one's managed to fix yet, jesus fucking christ what was maxis smoking back then

>>10035796
every time i have ever tried to install windows xp in a VM I get errors, can you link a good video that you used to do it? cause I have no idea what to do when it comes to that.

>>10035804
I used VirtualBox and it works with any OS if you have a good iso?

>>10035812
yea thats the issue, finding a good ISO for windows XP. I can find it but its almost never good and thats when I run into errors.

>>10035804
uhhhh
>install vmware, vmware player is fine but i don't think it supports snapshots
>make a windows xp virtual machine, i'd recommend giving it at least 2 cpu cores and 2gb of ram
>download and mount an xp x86 iso, i personally use integral edition https://zone94.com/downloads/software/operating-systems/123-windows-xp-professional-sp3-x86-integral-edition
>install xp as you normally would on a host system
>install vmware tools
>install ts1
>???
>profit

>>10035776
>Just doesn't work on windows 10.
The GT4W complete collection works on my Win10 machine, I use the widescreen patch.

>>10035776
The G4TW version definitely works on Win10, use the included crack and then patch it with the widescreen patch. If you can't get that to run, there's something wrong on your end specific to your machine.

>>10035848
imma try virtualbox again i'm sure I was just being retarded when I first tried.

>>10028029

i didn't click on the gif but i DID remember to add it to my md5 filters this time B)

>>10035893
its not even that scary lol

>>10035895
*kicks you in the nads*

>>10035901
cringe

>>10035753
>>10035776
It works fine on my machine, I can't imagine why you'd have issues unless you didn't install as admin which likely fucked with the dgvoodoo installation.

>>10035923
idk man, maybe its because I used AMD and windows 10 from Revision
https://www.revi.cc/revios/download/

>>10035927
Could be.

Can you select which expacs to install or be active in the complete edition?

>>10035927
>>10035931
Still, I suggest trying to run the installer as administrator if you haven't already. If not, disregard that I suck cocks.

>>10035940
I always run things as admin.

why the fuck is virtual box so slow? its been stuck at 39 minutes for 10 minutes now.

>>10036002
i'm about to give up on this shit, it has not moved for over an hour now, I am installing this on an SSD btw so it makes no sense

>>10035823
imma try this because for some reason virtual box won't fucking install windows xp.

>>10036361
Godspeed. Read lots.

>>10036367
https://youtu.be/iSqz1dzounw
really strange that this video came out today

I really don't understand what the fuck I am doing wrong. It keeps getting stuck, on every virtual machine I try. I follow directions to a FUCKING T but nope its like windows XP hates me.

>>10036404
That seems to have been posted on July 3rd 2021 and he renamed the video, but I'm glad you found something you can work with.

>>10036451
yea but still odd that i found it today of all days even with the rename.

>>10035889
Dammit. I didn't check.

>>10036456
Agreed, it's a nice happenstance.

>>10036462
clockwork gnomes leading me into the right direction I guess.

is this normal behavior on vmware? I feel like this shit is lagging way too much.
I did 2 cores and 2gb of ram but yet its having issues.

>>10036558
Seems okay to me though I am but a humble church mouse.

>>10036580
ok just seems strange you'd think with 2 cores and 2 gigs of ram it wouldn't have that problem.

>>10036585
alright imma have to just forget about this cause this is horrible and laggy, the sound is so bad as well.

>>10025013
>woman friend shows me her sims characters
>she forgot to turn off her nude mods
lol that was awkward

>>10036834
Anon, she was clearly hinting at something there.

>>10036848
if I was reading my post from the perspective of an outsider I might agree but I know her pretty well and I doubt she meant anything by that

>>10035340
well i suppose I can always make sure theyre social outcasts if i spot a gay but id still rather mod it out

>>10025914
They add a bunch of obnoxious items and dumb gimmicks

The OG is definitely the most difficult of the series if you want to play it legit without using money cheats. Sims 2 eased up on the challenge a lot.

>>10036848
Female streamers casually talk about using Sims porn mods these days, found that out when looking up videos on how to get the games working on modern PCs

>>10036616
imma try again today but if it seems like its not working after an hour i think imma have to figure about this game, as much as i would like to play it, it seems the game just hates me.

>>10038594
forget about this game i meant to say

>>10038601
yea idk i'm filtered, fuck this shit. I'm gonna just have to wait til I get actual hardware to play it, Granted I do have a 512 MB ram XP laptop but its a fucking laptop so its just not fuck to play anything on it, plus 512 MB of ram for XP was really bad.

>>10024946
I played Sims 1, Living Large, House Party and had a blast when they came out. I recall Hot Date too but don’t recall much. Those two first expansions were all you needed for an absolute blast. Sims 1 was the best. It was challenging as fuck and I loved it cause it was apolitical. If anything it had a traditional bend.

>>10038651
so I'm still trying, I made a ready2boot drive and been trying to install it on an HP elitebook 8440p but everytime I try I run into an issue

what's a fun way to play the original besides waiting for your sim to get home from work all day

>>10041317
You do know you can fast forward right?