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As you get older, do you find yourself sympathizing with the moral guardians of the past?
Some time ago I was listening to an episode of Retronauts about Mortal Kombat. When they got to talking about the moral outrage over the game, the hosts, a bunch of childless 40 years mocked it just like I would have when I was 9 years old.
But on the other hand, it sort of hit me as I have kids of my own - were the parental reactions THAT unreasonable? Games were evolving incredibly quick -we went from Pac Man to MK in a decade. Shouldn't you have concerns about the media ecosystem that your kids partake in? I have kids and I feel like you really have to have an eye on the stuff your kids consume, especially nowadays. I mean I turned out fine so maybe I shouldn't be concerned with this shit.

>> No.10005659

I remember when society at large hated bible-thumping conservatives. Man, better times.

>> No.10005662

>>10005659
I mean they mostly still do. I think it's just a small number of internet weirdoes that are sympathetic to them.

>> No.10005664

>>10005656
Honestly, yeah, I do sympathize more with it now and I don't even have kids of my own. Not that I think games should be outright censored or banned, and not that I abhor all violence in games, but there is a level of gore and violence glorification that makes me more uncomfortable now than when I was a kid. I can't actually stand playing the new Mortal Kombat games with all the graphic x-ray moves and excessive blood and gore, it just makes me cringe in discomfort/disgust, so I can better understand now how my parents and others felt seeing the original Mortal Kombat games and why they would forbid us from playing them as silly as they look today (and as silly as I felt they were at the time, really).

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>>10005656
GAMES ARE BAD
THEY MAKE YOU MAD

>> No.10005670

I think my parents were right and they should have tried harder to get me off the video games.
stuff like MK has always just been gross to me

I think the amount of lives that video games have ruined is absolutely unreal relative to other media.

>> No.10005678

>>10005656
> As you get older, do you find yourself sympathizing with the moral guardians of the past?
no. they’re proven liars

>> No.10005687

>>10005659
Sure, back on the 80s and 90s they were a powerful bunch. Today they've been completely outnumbered by woke Marxists.

>> No.10005703 [DELETED] 

>>10005656
1950:
>son, you're 13 years old now. i'm giving you this rifle, take good care of it and bring it to school.
2023:
>son, if you discriminate against homosexuals at this dinner table, there will be no tiktoking in this household for a week.

>> No.10005714

>>10005687
>outnumbered
Not in dollars or assets.
>>10005703
This guy hasn't heard "you'll shoot your eye out", ever

>> No.10005729

>>10005656
Nintendo really sold out the game industry at the time. Just fuck everyone else, we're taking everyones toys and going home attitude all because they were losing in America.

>> No.10005734

>>10005714
>muh christmas story
and guess what faggot? they still bought him the gun.

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>>10005656
I can appreciate their concerns, at the same time I believe parents should be attentive to their children and their interests rather than having government regulation do your job
>>10005659
Too many relevant quotes so I'm choosing this interview excerpt and promptly leaving the thread

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>Shouldn't you have concerns about the media ecosystem that your kids partake in?
OF FUCKING COURSE you retarded neanderthal.
Kids are impressionable little bastards and are bound to see and do dumb things without proper advisement to say otherwise. Stop projecting your Tipper Gore power tripping insecurities to ban fun and fuck OFF.

>> No.10005741 [DELETED] 

>>10005659
Joseph Lieberman, Tipper Gore, and Hillary Clinton are most certainly NOT bible-thumping conservatives though.
It wasn't just right-leaning moralfags. It was moralfags all around, just like today. Busybody retards are exactly what government, media, law, and corporations all have in common.
Thankfully they didn't win back then. Nowadays though, you look at game devs censoring cleavage and whatnot and think
>man we really are still in the same puddle of shitty mud
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters.

>> No.10005742

>>10005734
Hollywood didn't invent an old wive's phrase, kek

>> No.10005746

>>10005742
and an old wive's phrase had no bearing on reality. you think people didn't buy guns for kids in the 50s? you're an idiot. you have no idea what we've lost.

>> No.10005747

>>10005741
>Joseph Lieberman, Tipper Gore, and Hillary Clinton are most certainly NOT bible-thumping conservatives though.
Everyone always seems to selectively forget this. The media of the time did a great job of deflecting 100% of the blame onto conservatives when liberals were getting into it just as bad or worse.

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10005748

>>10005741
>Thankfully they didn't win back then
Yes they did, and it backfired

>> No.10005749

>>10005746
Not retro. You fuck off instead.

>> No.10005750

I can understand it now that I have kids and see how impressionable they are. However, I was playing MK, Doom, Quake, Duke 3d etc when I was in elementary and middle school and didn't turn into a psycho. I do think think excessive violence is offputting to most anyways, so its sort of a non issue. I remember as a kid being freaked out over something as tame (by modern standards) as the DOS Prince of Persia deaths.

I think social media is orders of magnitude more destructive and dangerous than any violent game

>> No.10005752

>>10005746
It's an old wives phrase BECAUSE it had a bearing on reality.
>you think people didn't buy guns for kids in the 50s?
You think unskilled child marksmen can't shoot eyes out? Enjoy your survivorship bias larping

>> No.10005754

I think it is a totally reasonable thing to be concerned about, one of many things. I honestly have no idea how you're expected to raise a mentally healthy kid anymore unless you go full Luddite and keep them away from phones and social media.

>> No.10005756

>>10005749
lol ur mad

>> No.10005757 [DELETED] 

>>10005756
That wasn't me, he just think you're an idiot (he's right)

>> No.10005762

>>10005752
>abloo bloo more gay shit trying to disprove that the world was a healthier place when even children owned weapons
should i skip right to the proof or do you want to keep posting retarded non-arguments for a bit?

>> No.10005763

>>10005656
>have kids and I feel like you really have to have an eye on the stuff your kids consume,

Thats all there is to it, so whats the argument? You want censorship shit? Parents then and now should tell little bobby he isnt allowed to play certain games or watch certain movies if you dont approve of the content. Taking that shit to the government level was dumb as fuck.

>> No.10005764

>>10005656
do you think that mk made you a homicidal martial artist? did doom make you shoot a bunch of kids? the fact that gay zoomer culture worships trannies and gay anime, I think the return of 90s and 80s sensibilities would be good.

>> No.10005765

>>10005762
Failure to refute is tacit concession, bye

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>S-SS-SEGA IS EXPOSING YOUR KIDS TO THIS DANGEROUS FILTH!!!! BAN THEM NOW
what a cuckhold lmao ruined nintendo for me for life

>> No.10005770

>>10005748
Technically they won. In practice the record and game industry outsmarted their stupid lawfaggot asses.
Anyone else love it when lawyers get BTFO btw?

>>10005747
I remember when MK was released on consoles and kids would have arguments between the SNES v. Genesis verson
>gennisissis has the blood your stupid nintendo doesn't
And we'd come back
>can't play Street Fighter good on genisssisus!
If there was any violence back then, it was in petty console warring and not from the actual violence of the games, which was always laughable.
My older brother brought MK2 how while visiting on military leave, and we sat there trying to do different fatalities, and my boomer parents laughing their asses off at the sheer amount of blood and boned and sets of ribs on screen after a successful kill.
Nobody gave an actual fuck outside of very extreme communities and the government/media dogs.

MK violence has always been like extreme Looney Tunes slapstick with added extreme amounts of ketchup.

>> No.10005771

>>10005765
>hello, reddit here
anyway, kids were still bringing guns to school in the 70s
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/opinion/letters/2014/08/06/taking-guns-to-school-in-the-1970s/60807424007/
you can stop JIDF posting and ban me now or i can keep going, up to you

>> No.10005778

>>10005756
Typical ad hom from a shitposter. Not retro. Fuck off, nigger.

>> No.10005779

>>10005778
good night, transexual

>> No.10005785

>>10005779
Start charging rent. Not retro. Fuck off or until jannies ban everyone in the thread.

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>>10005771
I wasn't disputing your fun fact, if you bothered understanding what you're responding to you'd know that. You failed to engage the point. Feel free to have the last word, it'll help you feel better.

>> No.10005790

every study done comes to the same conclusion: video games have no impact on behavior. television has a strong affect but boomers don't care about that because they are addicted to TV.

the difference is watching a role model show you how to behave (TV) vs being a participant in a pretend world. kids will fight each other after watching Power Rangers on TV because they want to be like their heroes, but they won't after playing Mortal Kombat because playing the game was the actual performance.

>> No.10005791

>>10005789
thanks for playing

>> No.10005801

I was reading some old magazines a few months ago and one of them had an article about Jack Thompson with a bunch of penny arcade comics about him and they were extremely cringe and made me realize the guy did nothing wrong.

>> No.10005804

>>10005656
they werent wrong
but the problem isnt with media or videogames, the blame lies on bad parenting
they blamed Marilyn Manson
they blamed it on heroin
they blamed it vidya
where were the parents

>> No.10005814

>>10005804
They just seem a little weird

>> No.10005821

>>10005804
>where were the parents
Working, partying with "associates", having affairs, fighting/divorcing, you know.
Just non-parent things.™

>> No.10005830

>>10005656
>As you get older, do you find yourself sympathizing with the moral guardians of the past?
No
>>10005659
I still do, christcucks aren't welcome here

>> No.10005836

>>10005659
I'd rather take them over trannies, commies and their enablers who want to censor everything

>> No.10005842

>>10005678
No. As other anon said, they are liars.

As a parent I curate what my kids can watch but back then you had dumb shit like lieberman claiming tomb raider had a rape button

>> No.10005854

>>10005836
I thought lefty degeneration was due to their unwillingness to self censor their disgusting beliefs from my god-fearing eyeballs which I refuse to pluck.

>> No.10005862

>>10005854
They censor all that goes against their hedonistic degenerate ways.

They will tell you how great it is to get posed loaded by five different guys but will censor you for saying that's harmful and unhealthy

>> No.10005870

>a board full of social degenerates and malcontents on a anime image board claims that videogames don't make them social degenerates and malcontents like politician's claim
I don't think /v is exactly the most impartial place around to discuss this topic. It's like asking the inmates at Arkham if Batman is a positive force in their life.

>> No.10005871

>>10005870
It's like weed. The shit can enable it but it itself is now the problem. The user is.

>> No.10005872

>>10005854
Are you even living on the same planet as everyone else? Censorship even at its worst in human history has never been slightly close to what it is now.
https://markpatlan.wordpress.com/2017/06/24/the-unabomber-manifesto-part-1-leftism/

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>>10005862
The fact you ignored the blatant hypocrisy in my comment would indicate you too have unplucked eyes. Consider doing something about that

>> No.10005883

>>10005880
The "Christian" boogeyman has no power. Look at all the churches that got shut down during covid. Can't say a prayer in class but you can groom kindergarten into thinking their are trans

>> No.10005885

>>10005814
>>10005821
its a valid point
but still tard logic

you ban things you dont like?
guns? movies? porn? books?
why stop there? suddenly everything is banned and the root issue is never fixed

violent crimes actually go UP when guns are banned
police are killed MORE OFTEN in areas that have recent gun bans

ppl be killin and shieeet with rocks, BAN ROCKS YO
moronic behavior

>> No.10005887

>>10005880
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
― C. S. Lewis

>> No.10005891

>>10005883
Churches still don't pay taxes. That's pretty fucking powerful.

>> No.10005903

>>10005891
And Hollywood does Hollywood accounting to lessen their taxes. Planned parenthood receives federal money and give back to leftist causes.

Aunt Nana proceeds from a bake sale is nothing compared to the entire left wing apparatus via non profit activists groups

>> No.10005910

>>10005872
>Ted lived a sad unfulfilling life, so his assertion that everyone does is true
Lol, lmao. Apparently in his technophobia he negated human autonomy as well
>Internet exists
Somehow I think someone that undermines the value of technology would undermine information proliferation happening online 24/7. With open internet, censorship ceases to exist.

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>>10005885
>violent crimes actually go UP when guns are banned
Bullshit.

It's also a silly comparison anyway because banning an object like a gun isn't equivalent to what the moral guardians are trying to ban, which is ideas. Even something like Prohibition, as stupid as it was, isn't the same thing as moral guardianship. You could at least make an argument for not wanting people to have access to a vice. But wanting to ban Mortal Kombat was about not wanting people to see something that is entirely fictional.

>> No.10005919

>>10005913
Actually that's a pretty good representation of where black people live.

>> No.10005920

In retrospect it was evil and needed to be abolished. It corrupts the mind and soul of even adults. Since we didn't ban this before look at far has MK 11 gotten. It's sickening.

>> No.10005925

>>10005919
Looking at the red I think it's safe to say that violent crime is way more related to economics than anything else. Missisisspi and Alabama are the most broke ass states in the union.

>> No.10005926

>>10005883
You can still go to church and it wasn't only churches that were affected, bad argument
>Can't groom kids into thinking they're going to hell for not liking vegetables but you can groom kindergarten kids into understanding some families have two mommies
Matthew 6:5
If someone wants to hear The Word they don't need you or anyone else to do it. Have faith.

>> No.10005927

>>10005925
Also, black people.

>> No.10005930

>>10005913
This is an interesting graphic because it shows that gun violence and gun control are not actually correlated with each other.

>> No.10005935

>>10005927
Mississippi is like 60% white. Go back to /pol/.

>> No.10005937

>>10005656
>were the parental reactions THAT unreasonable?
No because i can differentiate fiction and not fall for the slippery slope fallacy.
> Shouldn't you have concerns about the media ecosystem that your kids partake in?
No because kids will eventually see gore and sex in their lifetime sooner or later. Better to start them young and understand reality at 11 or 12 than to have them sheltered and unprepared for it at 18.

>> No.10005942

>>10005887
I don't think you intended to describe theocratic fascism but there it is

>> No.10005943

>>10005926
They arrested priests at the height of covid for having their church open since it was the only community alot of people had. Church is more then sermons

But you're allowed to riot for blm and flyod. Nigga get out of here with your revisionist history bs

>> No.10005945

>>10005937
Finally someone said it. Watching faces of death made me respect my food.

>> No.10005948

>>10005935
Look at a overlay of black people density and crime density. You will be astonished to see it all correlated in the urban areas with high black people percentage. It's not evenly spread over the whole state, you tard

>> No.10005949

>>10005913
>cherrypicked data
when will the dems stop this? never?
its tar and feathers time again soon

ONE WORD = chicago

>> No.10005953

>>10005930
It's pretty correlated. There are no red or orange states with fewer than three stars. One and two starred states are way lower in crime with California being the exclusive outlier and that's probably because it's so highly populated it can qualify as it's own country and also uniquely mismanaged. The states that are most gun friendly and also low gun crime are literal bumblefuck places like Wyoming which has like 12 people or Vermont which is nothing but rich old people.

>> No.10005954

>>10005804
>>10005821
Basically it's people who would like a scapegoat for their own failure as parents in society. Dad's pretending to work hard by not seeing their wives and children or by trying to have a relationship with their child, women being the career mom than to try and make sure children understand to not do the things that are on fictional media etc.

>> No.10005959

>>10005949
>Stop cherry picking!
>ONE WORD = chicago
You could at least TRY to not be a retard.

>> No.10005962

>>10005945
True and i also watched Cowboy Bebop at 11 and 12. It was surprising at first seeing death and blood. But i got use to it and understood how scary it was. Liveleak at age 17 made me realize how important life is and how easy i have it compared to moralists that cry about the outside world while indulging in their own vices.

>> No.10005963

>>10005883
>>10005885
>>10005887
>>10005891
>>10005903
>>10005910
>>10005913
>>10005919
>>10005920
>>10005925
>>10005926
>>10005927
>>10005930
>>10005935
>>10005937
>>10005942
>>10005943
>>10005948
>>10005949
>>10005953
>>10005954
>>10005959
Politics are not video games.
Do your fucking job, Mods.

>> No.10005964

>>10005943
>They arrested priests at the height of covid
Unfortunately
>for having their church open
Uh-huh...
>since it was the only community alot of people had.
That's not why they were arrested. I get what you were actually trying to say though, that these preachers intentionally broke the law to provide a community for those people. Sounds like vanity to me, shame folks can't just appreciate their faith over the radio like they were so blessed to appreciate back in the day.

>> No.10005967

>>10005963
It's video games because it was about the moral panic of the 90's of video games and the things we discuss relate to it. The only exception is those who are using it as a vehicle to talk about mah crime and other politicians.

>> No.10005968

>>10005948
You could do the same with poverty. You're deliberately confusing correlation with causation. Rich black people don't shoot each other but poor white people do.

>> No.10005973

>>10005959
>>10005954
part of growing up is realizing that you are wrong
sometimes its something small
sometimes its your entire worldview
are you coming to your conclusions on your own?
objectively ask yourself,
am i conditioned to respond a certain way?
conservatives have the moral high ground but it quickly evaporates once the glaring hypocrisy of banning things you dont like becomes litigation;
what are you "conserving" exactly?
cause it sure as hell aint liberty lol


children are impressionable
and do not understand fiction from reality
showing a child porn, gore, hardcore violence can have severe consequences


the problem is faggots think the gov can do something about it, or worse yet that its the GOVS job to dictate what shitty parents do/dont do or say


they simply do NOT have that authority
"respiratory virus crisis" or not

>> No.10005980

>>10005973
I agree it can have severe consequences, if the parent isn't being attentive. Isn't that what you're complaining about? What the fuck does PG mean?

>> No.10005981

>>10005964
you are beyond brainwashed
i feel sad for you

you are the type that thinks churches should be taxed

TAXATION IS THEFT

>> No.10005984 [DELETED] 

>>10005973
>are you coming to your conclusions on your own?
The irony is that the people who ask a question like this are the people most delusionally sheep like. Go listen to Alex Jones rant about gay frogs.

>> No.10005986

>>10005973
>what are you "conserving" exactly?
>cause it sure as hell aint liberty

holy fucking based

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>>10005656
I think most kids play stuff like Minecraft and Fortnite these days, even GTA doesn't seem so popular anymore. So if anything this controversy only boosted the games' popularity and publicity, but among younger audiences specifically I don't think they were ever as popular as other games for kids like Mario, Sonic, or Pokemon.

>> No.10005992

>>10005984
he was right about that though
guess YOU are the dumbass then here?


https://catalystjournal.org/index.php/catalyst/article/download/32350/26040/83325

>> No.10005994

>>10005981
So if your house catches fire you'd prefer the fire department hand you a bill before putting it out? You should plow your own way to work and pave your own highways? This extreme libertarian retardation thinks that basic functionality of society shouldn't exist and everyone should be alone in the forest with a sharpened stick.

>> No.10006001 [DELETED] 

>>10005981
Yeah, like Scientology for example.
>THEFT!!!
Ever heard of service theft? That's what churches are doing to the government while also pushing their own political rhetoric during services (which is blatantpy breaking the law, very unchristian)
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/charities-churches-and-politics#:~:text=Currently%2C%20the%20law%20prohibits%20political,to)%20any%20candidate%20for%20public

>> No.10006002

>>10005994
>MUH SOCIETY
waste, fraud, abuse
we give nearly 50% of our paychecks and they "lose" Rumsfelds trillions of dollars at the pentagon
fail their audits 6 times in a row
biden is literally a crime family
the local services provided at the county level are a far-cry from the literal extortion at gunpoint you force on everyone by propping up the feds

glowie

>> No.10006004

>>10005981
Yeah, like Scientology for example.
>THEFT!!!
Ever heard of service theft? That's what churches are doing to the government while also pushing their own political rhetoric during services (which is blatantly breaking the law, very unchristian)
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/charities-churches-and-politics#:~:text=Currently%2C%20the%20law%20prohibits%20political,to)%20any%20candidate%20for%20public

>> No.10006005

>>10006001
an unjust law should be broken
fuck the feds


>vote! change the system from within!!
>noooo not heckin like that!!

>> No.10006010

>>10006005
Replying to
>>10006004
Christofascism is a self-refuting ideology

>> No.10006015

>>10006010
>lets let megacorps rule us unchallenged lol
what could possibly go wrong

you think the church lobbies have jackshit on apple? google? facebook? microsoft? Pfizer??

use your fuckin brain
TRY

>> No.10006016

>>10005953
>There are no red or orange states with fewer than three stars.
IL, MD, DE
>One and two starred states are way lower in crime with California being the exclusive outlier
See above: IL, MD, and DE are red or orange and all have 1 or 2 stars.
You also conveniently ignore the giant block of cyan states throughout the midwest and northwest that are mostly 4+ stars, plus the three dark-cyan 5-star states in the northeast. As I see it, there are just as many low-crime/high-star states as high-crime/low-star states and vice versa. The correlation isn't in the level of gun control.

>> No.10006020

>>10006004
>breaking the law is un-Christian
Try actually reading the Bible.

>> No.10006021

>>10006016
>all dogs breeds are different
>uhhh democrat cities are crapholes? uhh uh uh purely bc of economic factors

california is so corrupt they are probably lying about their data and cannot be trusted

i LIVE here

>> No.10006028

>>10006015
>tithing
Worth far more than some dumb product

>> No.10006031

>>10005942
cs lewis is the absolute farthest thing from a fascist you absolute moron

christianity = loving your neighbor as yourself aka not ruining peoples lives for saying the wrong pronouns

>> No.10006034

>>10006020
Okay, done.
Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

>> No.10006035

>>10006028
10% < 38%+

and thats the tax bracket for poorfags like you; it goes UP the more you make monkeybrain

>> No.10006036

>>10006034
absolutely based

>> No.10006039

>>10006031
That's what I meant by "you didn't intend to".
>not ruining peoples lives for saying the wrong pronouns
Due to USI not faggotry. USI is also applicable to people that aren't faggots you know

>> No.10006040

>>10006034
And specifically which part of this states we should follow all the laws of man regardless of their morality or justness?

>> No.10006043 [DELETED] 

>>10005768
you think an underage child should be seeing women prance around in panties and tiddies floppin everywhere?

she gets her fuckin neck drilled out while screaming kek
that one deserves the MA warning label and subsequently is almost directly responsible for the modern ESRB rating system


the whole "conservative oogyboogy guys are always wrong" thing is such a brainwashed-tier take

>> No.10006046

>>10006040
people who disagree with the bible simply havent read the words of jesus christ
if you cant read 400 pages of red text there is no hope

united states citizens lack basic reading comprehension

>> No.10006048

>>10005963
Also /vr/ isn't /v/. Mods don't do their job, sempai. They do bare minimum.

>> No.10006052

>>10006035
>he thinks 10% is an upper limit
Try 10%+
>>10006040
I dunno man maybe the part where Christ said to love others as you love yourself, breaking laws out of self interest doesn't qualify

>> No.10006054

>>10006016
>You also conveniently ignore the giant block of cyan states throughout the midwest and northwest that are mostly 4+ stars
Nobody is ignoring those states. It's just hard to have high crime when there's barely any people to do crime to. Wyoming has half a million people in the entire state. Why are you conveniently ignoring THAT?

>> No.10006060

>>10006052
mental gymnastics

>men do not survive on bread alone, but every word from the mouth of God

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>>10006043
She's 16 (and a literal sex icon)

>> No.10006062

>>10006052
Love your neighbor as yourself almost specifically puts your local community above the law of the land by its inherent nature. If the law demands turning someone over for punishment due to some victimless crime it would not be showing love to your neighbor to follow that law and turn them in.

>> No.10006064

>>10006060
You must be starving, hypocritical neophyte

>> No.10006065

>>10006054
because you refuse to acknowledge the basic fact that democrat run cities and counties are fucking shantytown shitholes

chicago, detroit, oakland, the list goes on and on
its not black peoples fault its their plantation owners

>> No.10006069

>>10006061
fappin to the dead is a high-degree NO NO
you did a bad one me thinks

the rabbithole is she was murdered just like all the other fledgeling starlets that refused to comply

you think its a coincidence?
hollyweird is weirder than you can possibly imagine

>> No.10006070

>>10006064
The only hypocrite here is you
Where do you think your morality comes from?
If people are just a product of their environment whats stopping the slippery slope?
you simply cannot have justice without the word of GOD

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>>10006054
Because you ignore that the statistics are normalized by population and people aren't evenly spread through the whole state in the first place. You're grasping at straws to excuse any outlier that refutes your personal view.

>> No.10006072 [DELETED] 

>>10006065
It's irrelevant who's running the cities. Any Democrat or Republican connected enough to be elected mayor of a major city like LA or Chicago is going to be part of the corporate monoparty. Their economic policies are the same which is why the crime rate doesn't change much even when party does. The current crime rate is going up because people are fucking broke but it's still waaaaay lower than it was during the 70s and 80s when New York was pretty much Gotham City. Again, because despite everyone's nostalgia the 80s was an economic hellscape.

>> No.10006075

>>10006062
You don't get to determine if a crime is victimless. How many assholes have you seen shoplifting and saying "oh it doesn't matter"? Everything affects everyone in some way, that's why loving your neighbor means more than fucking the chick next door, excuse me, "literally loving your literal neighbor"

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>>10006069
She's not dead, she's 16

>> No.10006081

>>10006072
>some things never change
Chicago has been Democrat run for a comically long amount of time
nice job not knowing the facts


righties have rhinos and fags too but id take the "lesser" of two evils over what the demoncraps have become

if they had their way we wouldnt even be able to type this shit to eachother

>> No.10006083

>>10006070
From the same people that lived during and then penned the bible.
>whats stopping the slippery slope?
Parental guidance

>> No.10006085 [DELETED] 

>>10006080
>>10006061
cartoons arent real
but can be inappropriate as well

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Plato

she was murdered

>> No.10006090

>>10006080
ah memories, in 2000, age 26, fucking a 39 year old cokehead who had Boop pictures on her wall.
she was forever young. in her own mind.
[glad i used a condom]

>> No.10006091

>>10006083
makes zero sense
see you agree with parts of the Bible? but live a godless life?

support draconian governance?
Taxation/extortion?

your morality seems like it changes on a whim
The word of God never changes

>> No.10006092

>>10006075
You sound like the kind of person who would have returned slaves to their masters 200 years ago. Is that treating people as you'd like to be treated, or showing love to your fellow man? It certainly would have been following the law if you were living in the south. You're bending over backward to dishonestly twist the words of a religious leader you don't even follow.

>> No.10006093

>>10006071
>Small communities surrounded by endless grass is the same as a major metropolis.
Maybe you should stop. There are about five Wyomings worth of people in Brooklyn alone. That you're even trying to make this argument is asinine. There's that many people probably just sitting in traffic right now in LA but you're trying to suggest that what amounts to a tiny ass town in the middle of nowhere should score brownie points for not shooting each other. They probably have one fucking postman there and everyone knows his name.

>> No.10006094

>As you get older, do you find yourself sympathizing with the moral guardians of the past?
No.

>> No.10006096

>>10006093
The only argument I've made is that gun violence is not correlated to gun control. The fact that you're pushing so hard on the population density angle is starting to suggest you agree with me that there are more important factors to gun violence than gun control laws.

>> No.10006101

>>10006096
It's obviously not the sole or even main issue but it's clearly correlated to some extent. If you're a betting man who's just playing statistics and trying to not get shot then you can either pick a high density area with strong gun control or a low density area where gun control is essentially irrelevant. And then stay away from the outliers like Chicago.

>> No.10006107

>>10006101
Another way to put it, the higher the population density, the stronger effect gun control will have on gun violence taking the entire country's stats into account. Again, outliers exist but they're the exception that proves the rule.

>> No.10006112

>>10006085
Sexualized child before liberal indoctrination, became not only socially acceptable but popular, BTFO
>>10006091
>see you agree with parts of the Bible? but live a godless life?
Only a fool would presume.
>Taxation/extortion?
And tithing, though I wouldn't call it extortion.
>your morality seems like it changes on a whim
It would help if you bothered to make a connection rather than spewing your paranoid assertions, that's not going to happen now though considering you decided to create an image of someone to hate rather than understanding what your neighbor is saying to you
>>10006092
>Is that treating people as you'd like to be treated, or showing love to your fellow man?
No, so I don't know why you'd assume I would. Because you've decided to make up your mind on who I am, I'm not going to bother trying to connect with you either. Reap what you sew.

>> No.10006118

>>10006112
>Reap what you sew.
It's sow, like a field. Not sew like a sweater.

>> No.10006120

>>10006118
Baited. Can't make a connection to save your soul.

>> No.10006123

>>10006112
>No, so I don't know why you'd assume I would.
Because you're literally arguing that Jesus' words mean we should blindly follow all the laws of man without question in order to be good Christians. So thank you for agreeing that you were wrong about that.

>> No.10006126

>>10006123
That's not what loving others like loving yourself means. Thanks for demonstrating your comprehensive inability, that'll be all.

>> No.10006130

you know, looking at how degenerate and satanic the west has become, I'm starting to think the people who called stuff "satanic" and "violent" were right all along. look at where this shit got us.

>> No.10006132

>>10006130
I dunno I think Satan lies in the hearts of the ill-conceived and ill-considered which can be anyone

>> No.10006136

>>10006126
This is a really sad attempt at pretending you weren't wrong and I'm somehow dumb for proving you wrong.

>> No.10006139

>>10005656
Yep, I see games like Fortnite and CSGO and Valorant making all these shiny fancy skins that kids love to collect and shit.

How would that not psychologically lead to at least some of them liking or aquiring guns in real life? Or going to play with their parents' guns.

Fortnite trivializes shooting people with their weird fucking dance emotes.

>> No.10006140

>>10006136
Likewise, nice reading comprehension.

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>>10006130
as i stated before the thread derailed
the man in OPs photo was not "wrong"
but what he wanted to "DO" was wrong
two wrongs dont make a right

you do not ban things you don't like
ESRB was the eventual compromise

>> No.10006146

>>10006139
>halo enters the lobby

>> No.10006148

>>10006141
I would argue he was wrong because two social systems are at an impasse. Capitalism functions best when people buy what they like, but what people like is immoral shit that distracts them from The Word. You can't just legislate Christianity without robbing it of all meaning.

>> No.10006149

>>10005703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NBfkekhe4

https://archive.org/details/OTRR_Dragnet_Singles/Dragnet_49-12-22_030_22_Rifle_for_Christmas.mp3

>> No.10006151

>>10006140
>not following the law is un-Christian
>where is that in the Bible?
>Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself
>if anything, that means putting the wellbeing of those around you above the law when necessary
>no, you don't get to decide which laws to follow, loving your neighbor as yourself means following every law
>so then should people 200 years ago have returned slaves to their masters since the law said so?
>no, why would you think I'd say that?
>because your argument this whole time has been that loving your neighbor as yourself means following all laws no matter what
>YOU HAVE BAD READING COMPREHENSION! I WIN AND YOU'RE DUMB!
Okay, cool, dude.

>> No.10006152

>>10006141
>you do not ban things you don't like
ah yes the lolbertarian approach.

if you were actually based and banned degenerate shit we wouldn't be in the clown world we're in.

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>>10006085
>she was murdered
is this an \x\ thread or is this a real rabbithole?

>> No.10006161

>>10006152
the only thing that should be banned is taxation
people have always been corrupt even during the times of christ himself
>>10006148
age based legislation is hardly robbing christianity of its core-belief system kek
we dont sell cigs to minors
we dont sell booze to minors
we dont sell pornography to minors
we dont sell R rated movies to minors
why should gore\booba vidya get a free pass?
its potentially even more harmful than book or tv show
you are directly controlling the violence

>> No.10006175

>>10006151
Thanks for the play-by-play of your miscomprehension, now we can break it down proper.
>>where is that in the Bible?
I was referring to Christian law, which you should have known considering I was quoting Matthew 22:36-40.
>>if anything, that means putting the wellbeing of those around you above the law when necessary
It wasn't necessary. Radio service was enough for people that didn't have a local church, and it's enough for people that can't go to a local church in the interest of not spreading disease. The narrative of weeding out the weak is abhorrent when you consider these are Christian lives that were snuffed out of other people's self interest.
>>loving your neighbor as yourself means following every law
It means following laws that don't affect human lives. Meaning all of them. Rules are written in blood. Super cool.

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>>10005910
>With open internet, censorship ceases to exist.
get a fuckin load of this newfag right here though

never had a post pruned?
never been banned unjustly
first time postin????

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>>10006178
>he doesn't know archives exist

>> No.10006182

>>10006178
Point being, we live in an age where it's much easier for the truth to see the light of day.

>> No.10006184

>>10006154
Heather Michele O'Rourke
Norma Jeane Mortenson
Natalie Wood
Nicole Brown Simpson
Elizabeth Short
Judith Barsi

>> No.10006185

>>10006161
Thankfully I was talking about legislating enforced Christianity and not age based legislation for vices

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>>10006180
anon pls
>they can belete me it ok some 3rd party SOMEWHERE might have archived my literal fact-checked on-topic shitpostan!!!

>> No.10006189 [DELETED] 

>>10006161
>we dont sell pornography to minors
porn needs to be banned period. there is no argument in favor of pornography
>we dont sell R rated movies to minors
most R rated movies are degenerate
>why should gore\booba vidya get a free pass?
you act as if adults won't be influenced by degenerate media. the reason why the left is winning is because they outright ban shit they don't like rather than "limit" it

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>>10006186
>he thinks one forum is the entire open internet

>> No.10006193

>>10006185
age based legislation is also retarded
sets a bad precedent as now laws can be arbitrarily changed at anytime
>example: cigs was 18 now cigs is 21
When we give government the power to make decisions for us, we in essence accept that the state owns our bodies.

>> No.10006194 [DELETED] 

>>10006175
>I was referring to Christian law
No, you said "breaking the law is very un-Christian" in reference to United States federal law (specifically, IRS regulations). That's what I challenged, because there's nothing un-Christian about breaking unjust laws, and that passage from Matthew did not prove otherwise.
>It wasn't necessary. Radio service was enough for people that didn't have a local church, and it's enough for people that can't go to a local church in the interest of not spreading disease. The narrative of weeding out the weak is abhorrent when you consider these are Christian lives that were snuffed out of other people's self interest.
I was never talking about ANY of this at ANY point, you're mixing me up with a whole other anon you were having a different argument with.
>It means following laws that don't affect human lives. Meaning all of them.
What the fuck are you even saying here? All laws DON'T affect human lives and that's why Christians should follow them???

>> No.10006195

>>10006189
>there is no argument in favor of pornography
Sex sells

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>>10006191
there is NO SUCH THING fedboy
the internet traffic has been under consolidation since its inception
the days of anonymous messaging are fucking long since over

this place itself is a honeypot
dont mislead the kids

also your memes are old, but not as old as mine

>> No.10006208

>>10006195
it also demoralizes society and makes people easier to control
this is why it must be banned

>> No.10006213

>>10006196
LARPer

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>>10006189
>the reason why the left is winning
they arent
rational normal humans didnt magically disappear in the last 20 years

you can saturate every screen with the lie
you can have every mega-corp on board with the agenda
you can have every governing body in the world on the same faggy page

we will not bend the knee

>> No.10006219

>>10006194
It was in reference to all laws, not just federal ones. Including Christian laws. The Ten Commandments?
>there's nothing un-Christian about breaking unjust laws
Except pride and wrath
>I was never talking about ANY of this at ANY point,
This isn't about you, either read the thread and stay on top of the discussion or stay out of it.
>All laws DON'T affect human lives and that's why Christians should follow them???
No, they do. Thats why Christians should follow them.

>> No.10006220

>>10006208
Then ban capitalism, lmao

>> No.10006221

>>10006214
>rational normal humans didnt magically disappear in the last 20 years
They never existed in the first place.

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>>10006213
if you wanted oldfag images you needed only ask anonkun

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>>10006196
You are mistaking anonymity for freedom. Read one EULA

>> No.10006229

>>10006208
it is a weapon of war, i agree with you
but banning things is not the answer

you dont get rid of furries by banning them
you get rid of them by bullying\shaming them in public

>>10006220
this would basically have to be true
almost all "music" videos are soft-porn in 2023

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>>10006214
HACK THE PLANET

>> No.10006235

>>10006229
>almost all "music" videos are soft-porn in 2023
funny how that works. vidya sexy women bad but women being sluts good
also the degenerate modern female singers aren't even hot anymore so they can't be sexy

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>>10006227
they are intrinsically connected anonkun
you do not have guaranteed freedom of expression anywhere on the internet. period.

and especially not on these mongolian image-weaving underwater rotating image forum messageboards

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>>10006229
Bullying and shaming just pushes them underground like what happened with the fascists after Germany fell. And once they've garnered enough underground support, they come back in full force, like furries. Or fascists. Or fascist furries.

>> No.10006240

>>10006235
>aren't even hot anymore
they are probably biological males
+being SO desensitized by years of porn consumption probably doesnt help anon

i was saying the "sex sells" thing is entangled with free-market capitalism, so to get your "ban" you would basically have to control all aspects of society\market-exchange

not a world many would want to live in

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>>10006237
That wouldn't be a grand revelation if you recognized every site has an EULA now
>le mongol meme
Newfag confirmed.

>> No.10006243

>>10006237
>>10006229
>>10006224
>>10006214
>>10006208
>>10006196
>>10006193
>>10006189
>>10006161
>>10006141
>>10006130
samefag

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>>10006238
not only are you wrong
you are a furry, therefore your opinion has been discarded
you can now leave the thread at anytime


please educate yourself, please try to learn history before posting again

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>>10006243
wrong, but here is your (YOU)


the facts must be getting to you
you are still here

the more sexual partners you have
the more unhappy you will become in life

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>>10006245
>Furries: bullied
>came back anyway
>Fascists: bullied
>came back anyway

>> No.10006251

>>10006219
>It was in reference to all laws, not just federal ones. Including Christian laws. The Ten Commandments?
That's why I specifically asked where Jesus says to follow all the laws of MAN without question, which you're conveniently ignoring now.
>Except pride and wrath
Breaking unjust human laws can be done without either.
>No, they do. Thats why Christians should follow them.
Unless they affect human lives in ways that run counter to God's law or morality.

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>>10006250
its not that i think furries shouldn't be allowed to express themselves
what you do in private is your own business

its the people doing degenerate shit in the open public streets that i have issues with

>> No.10006261

>>10006251
>Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's
>And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness

his saved again nation is the break-away nation from the false 666 globalist\zionist rule
LUCIFERIAN TOWERS

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>>10006242
anon pls

yours lacks the text and i still know it

>> No.10006267

Genuinely cannot fathom the sort of person that gets pressed over game companies "censoring" sexualized nudity and skimpy outfits and whatever. Like, if you want to see scantily clad cartoon women there's millions of terabytes of hentai and porn out there on the internet for you. Not sure what sort of bizarre mindset makes people think they NEED to see tits in video games and anything else is le evil censorship. Who the fuck starts up a AAA game to jack off? And Skyrim modding already exists for that anyways

>> No.10006270

>>10006251
>Why won't you acknowledge my reinterpretation of your point?
Pikuach nefesh. The only laws to be broken are in the interest of saving lives, meaning they must be in danger first. Nobody was going to die from attending church on a stream or radio broadcast, and ignoring public safety ordinance because you want to have a community is stumbling. If you want people to stop killing themselves out of misery then we should stop mistreating people for breaking laws that save their life.

>> No.10006273

>>10005687
Yes. USA is totally run by marxists. That America, totally a leftist marxist country, what with its free health care and all.

>> No.10006274

>>10006263
>>/vr/thread/1849337
Ha ha, told on yourself larper. I was in that fucking thread newfag.

>> No.10006275

Turns out suspect people "social networking" with your children is about a thousand times more hazardous than a bit of cartoon blood ever was.
If anything, exposing kids to a bit of safe violence in the media is good. It toughens them up mentally. That's why they like it so much, I think. They're seeking that, on a subconscious level.

>> No.10006276

>>10006267
censoring sexualized nudity and skimpy outfits would actually be based if it was done right as it would stop degeneracy. instead we get double standards clown world were sexy game girls bad but women whoring themselves out on onlyfans brave and empowering

>> No.10006279

>>10006274
you are sounding like a schizoid

>> No.10006280

>>10005656
>As you get older, do you find yourself sympathizing with the moral guardians of the past?
>Some time ago I was listening to an episode of Retronauts about Mortal Kombat. When they got to talking about the moral outrage over the game, the hosts, a bunch of childless 40 years mocked it just like I would have when I was 9 years old.
>But on the other hand, it sort of hit me as I have kids of my own - were the parental reactions THAT unreasonable? Games were evolving incredibly quick -we went from Pac Man to MK in a decade. Shouldn't you have concerns about the media ecosystem that your kids partake in? I have kids and I feel like you really have to have an eye on the stuff your kids consume, especially nowadays. I mean I turned out fine so maybe I shouldn't be concerned with this shit.

there's definitely some dubious things about the 1993 Video game hearings. partially, it was Nintendo who were mad that Sega was selling more copies of games like Mortal Kombat, because it had a blood code. It many ways it was their attempt to circumvent Sega genesis sales in the NA market. But also, it had something too do with Sega selling games uncensored in store chains like Toys R Us. While Nintendo had their own strict censorship guidelines that every licensed game had to pass. But Sega did try to create their own video game ratings council and rating system. You can see it on some of the Genesis, Sega CD, 32x and GameGear era games. They wanted the Videogame Rating Council to be the universal standard in NA for ratings. But Nintendo were unwilling to use it. In the end, it ended up with the ERSB. Which Nintendo did adopt. Mortal Kombat 2 on the SNES had the blood left intact because Nintendo were allowing third parties to follow the ERSB guidelines. Night Trap really was just a ringer. The game was PG at best, it was filmed in the late 80's for a VCR console. But was used as an example of 'realistic' graphics and how it could be used for sexual content.

>> No.10006281

>>10006274
the image i posted predates the 2014 thread you linked bud
although i will admit i didnt lurk \vr\
i was part of \wg\ helping anon with color-edits and shit like that 2007-2010 era

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>>10006279

>> No.10006285

>>10006276
ah so it's /pol/fags seething about women having sex without them involved, got it

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>>10006280
>I mean I turned out fine so maybe I shouldn't be concerned with this shit.

it is ALWAYS our own decision who we are anon

>> No.10006291

>>10006285
>le \pol\ boogeyman meme
this should be an immediate rangeban
i hate censorship but its just so fucking cringe

anything that doesn't regurgitate the megacorps tv show agenda is \pol\
this is what creates people like andrew tate
his literally half-retarded, says 1-2 things that used to be common fucking sense and is a worldwide phenomenon


please stop being retarded

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>>10006281
That's a fun way of saying you couldn't identify a /vr/ meme from 2014, which isn't even that long ago. Here's a hot tip: nobody cares how much time you've wasted on this website

>> No.10006296

>>10006292
this board DOES care how much time i wasted playing skate or die though anon

>> No.10006298

>>10006296
Well what are you waiting for then?

>> No.10006302

>>10006292
the meme the playstations are copying is this:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-require-more-minerals

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>>10006291

>> No.10006305

>>10006303
why are you saving pictures of other peoples kids? fuckin freak

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>>10006184
>>10006154
>>10006085
WAIT GUYS, WAIT!
this is real?!?!?

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>>10006302
Nowhere in that thread is that referenced, if anything it's a triforce because retro.

>> No.10006312

>>10006305
>t. projecting "anti-censorship" (pedophile) /pol/fag

>> No.10006314

>>10006310
eh, 3 objects consuming a comedic item
could go either way

or maybe IM the schizoid this time

>> No.10006316
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>>10006312
remember kids, hating \pol\ for no reason makes moot sad

>> No.10006317

>>10005754
Unironically, bullying.
Just make fun of them. Call them cringe and laugh at them.
Shame works and little kids desperately want to fit in.

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>>10006309
NO
go to bed
arent you feeling SO sleepy anon?

>> No.10006319

>>10006316
moot himself hated /pol/, election tourist. it was a containment board to keep stormfags off /news/

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>>10006316

>> No.10006323

>>10006317
See>>10006238

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>>10005754
you think its an accident that the phone is saturated with faggy behaviors and self-destructive bullshit?

they run test-markets on those ads with a a theatre full of people with their brains hooked up to monitoring devices

they know how to "program" music
what will "elicit the highest emotional response"

they are intentionally programming people
and have years of research to stand on

>> No.10006325

>>10006323
bullying a retard kid doing something stupid is not the same as "bullying" an entire cultural/ideological group on a societal level

>> No.10006326

>>10006319
it was for the lulz
i still laugh out loud when \mlb\ and \pol\ got intentionally dumped together
they ended up getting along
im not an election tourist i voted for ron paul

>> No.10006328

>>10006324
Research only works when the subjects remain consistent, apply any scrutiny and it falls apart like a dry sandcastle. This is why conservatives want to gut public education, to kill critical thinking.

>> No.10006330

>>10006328
the educational system does not procure individuals who think for themselves
it was cooked from the ground up by the rockefellers to produce worker bees for factories

you think people who have college degrees are anything but midwits who parrot what they are told?

conservatives want freedom of choice
you should be able to choose your school for your kids
my parents had to lie about where they lived so my siblings could go to the "good" school

you know nothing

>> No.10006331

>>10006326
>i voted for ron paul
further confirming that you're a pedophile

>> No.10006332

>>10006325
Maybe you forgot you were speaking under the context of raising a kid. Bullying your kid will make them lose all respect for you, and you will deserve the crooked home you end up in as a result.

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>>10006330
Thanks for demonstrating my point for me despite your inability to acknowledge it.

>> No.10006340

>>10006331
this is probably the most unhinged comment in the entire thread

>ron paul
>a fucking doctor
>served in world war 2
>cares about financial responsibility
>cares about individual liberty and freedom
>literally one of the only "good ones" to ever serve our country
>a literal God-fearing christian man still working hard to this very day

what the fuck man

>> No.10006343 [DELETED] 

>>10006319
moot also said there was literally nothing wrong with being a cuckold, and sold out to literal jews as well. good riddance.

>> No.10006346

>>10005656
>As you get older, do you find yourself sympathizing with the moral guardians of the past?
Yes, but not for video game violence. They were right about sexualization though. The increase in social acceptance of overt sexualization and promiscuity has been disastrous for society.

And since I'm sure some poor seething yurocunt is gonna ask
>w-w-hy americans glorify muh violence so much but hate showing titties to children

Because "violence", when portrayed properly, is for the purpose of showing heroism, sacrifice, and good triumphing over evil. It is something to aspire to, like any young child playing cowboys and indians or cops and robbers. It does not promote undue use of force and random chaotic violence in society; we know that all sane people perfectly understand the difference between fantasy storytime violence and acting out in the real world. However I DO strongly object to cynical postmodern "dark" media that indulgently glorifies violence for violence's sake and twists morality out of cynicism and a desire to portray "suffering porn".

Conversely, openly broadcasting highly sexual content displays the exact wrong image of how good young people should approach romance and relationships, it demeans and objectifies the experience and rejects the gravity of deep emotional commitments and what it means to love someone, in favor of pure pleasure-seeking hedonism, which is absolutely something people will try to emulate and damage themselves in the process.

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>>10006337
>i simbly tell myself i am right
>teh end

are you pretending to be retarded? you better not be

>> No.10006350

>>10006340
There's only 3 reasons anyone votes libertarian: weed, pedophilia, or schizophrenic hatred for the very concept of taxes. And with democrats changing their stance to pro-weed legalization, that only leaves 2

>> No.10006351

>>10005659
Yes, they were better times, because people were more closely aligned to the morality of the culture created by those you disdainfully call "bible-thumping conservatives". As "your side" progressively won and distanced us from our civilization's traditional values, society got progressively worse. Big surprise, huh? Who could have seen that coming.

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>>10006154
>>>10006085
>>she was murdered
>is this an \x\ thread or is this a real rabbithole?

When it comes to Hollywood, especially 80's and 90's Hollywood. I would say there is a big probability that she was murdered. I don;t know any of the stories behind her death.

here's a pretty cool little documentary that was made by Digital Pictures in 1995 about the 1993 hearings. It does have a lot of behind the scenes filming footage of Night Trap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bOebaFgvAg

>>10006287
>it is ALWAYS our own decision who we are anon

At the end of the day, the ERSB wasn't the worst thing to happen. Especially not for the home console market.

>> No.10006356 [DELETED] 

>>10006350
You've drank too much of the coolaid. While I'm not a libertarian myself, you sound like a chatgpt standardized response, because you have a box shaped mind molded by talking heads instead of using your head to talk to people and discuss your opinions and beliefs. Though, I suppose you think you make daddy vaush proud by parroting tired out rhetoric like a stereotyping automaton

>> No.10006358

>>10006328
>This is why conservatives want to gut public education, to kill critical thinking.
This is the most abominably wrong, irresponsible thing anyone could have posted. The fact that anyone could even post such a bald-faced brazen lie in the face of common core and critical theory is reprehensible.

>> No.10006359

>>10006346
sex and violence are the same primal urge anon
they both stem from the reptilian part of our animalistic brain
to succumb to either results in self-destructive behavior


>KJV
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
[9] And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.


does that mean that everyone who ever laid eyes upon Marilyn Monroes rad tits is condemned to hellfire for all eternity??
of course not
but the dramatism is not without cause,
all behaviors are habits
what consumes your thoughts will eventually control your life

you think you'll meet the woman of your dreams if you treat them all like sexobjects? if you're too busy staring at her shirt to hear what she has to say? you think she will choose to spend time with you?

>> No.10006362

>>10006359
>sex and violence are the same primal urge anon
>I heard this once on TV so I guess it's true
No.

>> No.10006364

>>10006359
>if you're too busy staring at her shirt to hear what she has to say?
not some sort of hippie-dippy anti-bible liberal but I don't often encounter women who have anything the slightest bit interesting or worthwhile to say

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>>10006350
i laughed at the cringe
but >>10006356 made me feel sorry for you
people truly are gridlocked
incapable of a free-thought
it really is worse than i thought...
you are not your identity-politics
you are a human being, you have a SOUL
your LIFE HAS VALUE

dont let them control you so easily
read the words of jesus

>> No.10006368

>>10006359
>does that mean that everyone who ever laid eyes upon Marilyn Monroes rad tits is condemned to hellfire for all eternity??

Do you understand what that means exactly, anon?
Coomers are throwing their lives away. They are spending all day looking at jpegs and masturbating in their underwear and never accomplishing anything or treating their body properly.

And you have the gall to reduce the Bible to literalism?

>> No.10006370

>>10006364
women being less intelligent than men
and even more easily manipulated by screen time doesnt change my point anon

women act like children
if you're going to have kids\wife\etc
you have to act a certain way and hold yourself accountable


jesus preached mindfulness
and that veering off the path will quickly ruin your life
>>10006362
a regretful life, brings regret in death anonkun

>> No.10006374 [DELETED] 

>be addicted to violence
>this is called psychopathy and you get put in a locked room away from society
>be addicted to sex/masturbation/looking at jpgs
>this is fine, wew you do you, love is all we need, let's teach children to do this too, look everyone more sex on tv!
s,m,h

>> No.10006375 [DELETED] 

>>10006365
>you have a SOUL
you cannot prove this, schizo
you cannot even prove I have a conscious experience like yours as opposed to being a walking husk, an automaton that merely acts like you would expect a being with a consciousness to
the true nature of the human experience lies forever beyond your reach as metaphysical philosophy was concluded 400 years ago with "Cogito ergo sum"

>> No.10006376

>>10006368
huh???
did you even read what i typed?
>>10006370
see >jesus preached mindfulness
and that veering off the path will quickly ruin your life

im not defending coomers in the least
im explaining the passage so it can be understood


jesus said to pluck out the eye
but not LITERALLY or ALL of us would have no fucking eyes

we have to be adamant about our behaviors on earth or they will consume us
only God will get us through
we cant do it alone

>> No.10006380

>>10006376
What you typed is a wall of non sequitur nonsense that did not address any of the points I made in my initial post whatsoever. You went off on a bible verse and compared it to biblical literalism about looking Marilyn Monroe's tits, and completely ignored my arguments about the societal impact of promotion promiscuity and objectification of sex in modern media.

>> No.10006381 [DELETED] 

>>10006349
>gut public education, to kill critical thinking.
>the educational system does not procure individuals who think for themselves
We said the same thing, only we blamed different groups. Republicans have been cost cutting education for a long time now, what do you have to show for the Rockefellers doing that beyond hearsay? And I'm not talking about introducing topics you personally disagree with, I mean how are the Rockefellers preventing schools from procuring competent teachers and providing them with robust resources like Republicans have done though cost-cutting?
>conservatives want freedom of choice
Yeah for themselves and nobody else LOL

>> No.10006382

>>10006381
>Yeah for themselves and nobody else LOL
This is such a meaningless midwit nonsense statement.

>> No.10006383

>>10006375
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography

plants respond to music
this is scientifically documented via numerous respected sources


the metaphysical nature of our reality is very real - whether or not you decide to ignore it is up to you

>> No.10006385

>>10006383
>plants react to sound therefore the human soul exists
woah you just solved millennia of philosophy and religion

>> No.10006387 [DELETED] 

>>10006381
you are still championing identity politics
what will you do when your "team" loses
or in my case literally abandons all common sense and morality
i will never support a democrat again. period.

they cost-cut education because the system is LITERALLY CORRUPT AS FUCK
i spent 7 years of my life as a substitute teacher in southern california
i wish some of the things i saw weren't true
the coordinators, boardmembers, etc
they cut costs while taking tax payer money driving new Mercedes every year

i dont particularly like trump but what he said about "waste, fraud, abuse" is 100%
especially when it comes to the educational system

>> No.10006389

>>10006358
Then why did it happen for over thirty years? You can't just deny yourself out of the fact public schooling is underfunded as a result of Republican cost cutting.

>> No.10006390

>>10006385
many cultures ALL around the planet are cognizant of the spiritual nature of our reality anon

the temples in india, the stained glass cathedrals, the all share the same repeating geometric patterns

the same ones you would see yourself if you took a heroic dose of psilocybin mushrooms

>> No.10006391

Politics aren't video games.
Sage

>> No.10006393

>>10006375
While I'm not the ranting stream-of-consciousness lunatic you're replying to, I do object to reductivist materialism. It is simply arrogance to assume that because our childlike sciences and mathematics have "proven" certain rational objective-like facts of the universe, from our perspective, that we are somehow qualified to dismiss the profundity of our own consciousness, or the miracle that existence exists at all, based on an a dogmatic principle that everything must be the result of pure physical processes without meaning.

Logically, rationally, emotionally, psychologically, sociologically, I have a "soul" for everything that word is worth. It doesn't matter if a peer reviewed paper from MIT says I don't. That's not how we humans act or see the world.

>> No.10006394

>>10006389
see>>10006387


they are ALL corrupt
throwing more money at it doesnt fix the problem anon
you could have unlimited budget and still have underperforming schools in low-income communities

it is intentional
i dont know how more clear i can make it for you

>> No.10006395

>>10006391
>announcing a sage
enjoy your vacation

>> No.10006396

>>10006389
>republicans are the real bad ones because they let liberals corrupt the education system for decades.
What an amazing take.

>> No.10006401

>>10006391
announcing sage will result in a permaban
the irony is you will be the only one issued the ban warning here

we are all mostly civil and staying mostly on topic
OP asked a very specific question relating to the 90s era of vidya
it is a complicated multi-faced issue and likely will not be concluded even when the bump limit is reached


there are many ideas to be shared

>> No.10006402 [DELETED] 

>>10006395
You'll get yours soon. Thread's not retro or vidya.
Sage

>> No.10006404

didn't this shit also happen in the 00s?

>> No.10006405 [DELETED] 

>>10006401
Not vidya.
Sage

>> No.10006410

>>10006394
you cannot TAX yourself into the promised land
you cannot censor\limit speech or artistic expression

however, that doesn't mean morality is out the window
you do not show hyper-sexualized images\themes to young children
you do not show grotesque violence\gore to developing minds aka children under the age of 12

>> No.10006414

>>10006405
see >>10005656

the original debate resulted in the current ESRB ratings board as it still exists today
it absolutely is not only vidya, but \VR\ af

>> No.10006419

>>10006410
>don't show sexualized images to young children? I dunno, seems kinda strict...
>ah, I've got it! we'll make it don't show HYPERsexualized images to young children!
>that'll make sure I can still show 8 years olds porn, but only *normal* porn, none of that weird fetish shit

>> No.10006423 [DELETED] 

3rd worlders always bump the worst threads.

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>>10006393
>ranting stream-of-consciousness lunatic
well said my mild-mannered esteemed colleague
i will admit, i am a bit chaotic but normies don't respond well to those lacking originality

>> No.10006430

Stop using this thread as your persomal playground, janny. Do your fucking job.
Sage