/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10003028
It didn't.

/thread

>>10003034
this

>>10003034
fpbp

It didn't.
t. was born in 2003 and finally actually finished it for the first time last week after two failed attempts

>>10003028
Can you substantiate your claims in any way and form?

It's a lot easier to beat the meat to Remake Tifa

>>10003028
PS1 had better RPGs anyways.

>>10003034
Based first post

If it weren't for the FMV, FFVII could have easily fit onto a single PS1 disc.

>>10003028
Cloud, Barret and Tifa break into Shinra HQ, mowing down tons of guards in the process and somehow the employees on the upper floors carry on like they don't know anything is going on. Even the top execs have their meeting completely undeterred. What's the deal here, is Shinra just that ignorant? Are terrorist attacks a commonplace event in that building?

>>10003089
arrogant*, not ignorant

>>10003034
this. Get filtered OP

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>>10003034
savage post

>>10003028
Anything outside of battle = shit graphics.
Sorry it's not 1997 anymore and I don't care about sub DVD quality FMV.
Story is retarded too.
Cool themes and world, decent characters and great character designs. Decent pacing for a JRPG too. But it looks like shit and the story is retarded.

>>10003456
i thought the reddit shutdown was over. why are you here

>>10003034
AHHHH HELL YEEEEEEAH

>>10003456
You make very good points

>>10003034
OP utterly BTFO

>>10003482
>he's reddit if his opinion doesn't align with my own

>>10003530
It can be discerned from the writing style. The opinions are a secondary clue.
Lurk a few more years and maybe you'll work that out.

>>10003071
skill issue

>>10003034
enter
raise hell
leave

>>10003028

It didn't. It's still the same exact game today as it was back then.

>>10003028
I remember when it came out thinking it looked like shit compared to FFVI. The prerendered backdrops were impressive but the polygonal sprites struck me as extremely crude even then. Also, the difficulty was dialed down to where the game offered no challenge. I first played it on a rented PS1 with no memory card so I couldn't save and left the game running for two days before I finally died which was well outside Midgard.

>>10003034
fpbp and /thread

>>10003445
hee

>>10003028
It was never good, just the first time a lot of kids played an RPG.

>>10004235
A lot of this but it did push the envelope in terms of cinematic storytelling which was novel in its day; the gameplay side was always weak which is why it hasn't held up well.

>>10003028
Not enough timeline-fixing ghosts and walking sections.

>>10003064
>2 failed attempts
Anon... how do you fail at a JRPG?

>>10003028
It was never good to begin with.

>>10003967
>muh writing style
go fuck yourself

>>10003034

The only thing that aged badly about it was the graphics outside of the battles and it aged no worse than most other ps1 rpgs. If you’re trying to make a big deal about ffvii specifically aging badly you are either retarded or looking for attention.

>>10003028
character models look like shit when you're outside of combat, but I thought that at the time so it's not an age issue

Honestly I think the field models could've looked fine with a little more refinement. Like making their arms wider and making the NPCs less...orange.

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>>10004372
Samefag.

>>10003034
Based, OP is just a huge faggot.

>>10004861
the final attempt of a hurt and btfo'd OP to save face, many such cases

>>10003034
this
it was always bad

It was mainly renowed for its graphics

>>10004515
the graphics outside of the battles was a caveat that people noticed at the time, or at least I did.
>why does everyone look like Popeye?

>>10004212
Final Fantasy VI was a lot easier than VII honestly.

>"I'm a Final Fantasy VII fan"
>only likes Advent Children and the remake
>calls the original outdated
>pretends he played it
Why are nu-FF7 fans like this?

>>10003034
fpbp

>>10005234
They're both too easy, but I recall FFVI at least having a difficulty spike now and then and FFVII as a walk in the park. Could've just been that I was younger when I played FFVI though.

>>10003064
Sex with blocky Tifa.
This game gives out what you put into it.
That philosophy kept on and went too far in FF8 for most.

i recently replayed it after 20+ years.
the music/style/presentation is top notch, the story is good by jrpg standards, but i found the materia system to be a complete drag and the fact that characters are essentially interchangable to be a negative

>>10005565
Retard, the Materia system is wonderful.

>>10005594
how? its just needless inventory management
not that the game has any semblance of challenge outside of ruby and emerald

>>10004293
NTA but sometimes it takes me multiple tries to really get into an RPG.

>>10003028
babies first jrpg

I used to think I hated games that didn't put their primary emphasis on moment to moment gameplay but in recent years I've found myself enjoying genres like survival horror or non combat oriented adventure games where the gameplay might be weak but the atmosphere and narrative still keep me invested, yet I still find it hard to go back to turn based combat, why?

>>10006372
Because games with turn based combat tend to severely limit the possible interactions you have with the world, instead of deepening them like they ought to.

Instead of gaining fire powers, and then actually being able to use them in the world to light stuff up, you're limited to selecting 'fire attack' from a menu to just do damage to some target that may or may not be "weak to fire" and that's it, otherwise you walk around and press [ACTION]. You get a hundred different things that just aren't interesting and don't matter.

>>10003034
It is impressive you /thread yourself and are right. It didn't just age poorly. It aged horrendously.

>>10005539
Many games give and take

>>10003028
Why are zoomers like this? Go back to your phone.

>>10003034
Based and truthpilled. FPBP

>>10006372
Because you're not playing good turn based games like Slay the Spire

>1997 kids really thought "HE DID IT BECAUSE HE WAS MIND CONTROLLED... FOUR TIMES!" was peak storytelling.

>>10003034
OP absolutely fucking obliterated

>>10003034
Fpbp

>>10007852
Don't forget they did the mind control thing years prior, with Kain...twice. Then there's Golbez.
Then there's Leon in FF2. They sure loved mind control plots.

>>10003028
it didn't
it always sucked

>>10004349
You're mad because you know he's right

>>10004293
Yeah, what >>10005713 said.
I got to around the first visit to Gold Saucer both of the times but just didn't really get into it. Decided to push through this time and got really "rewarded" quickly after and finished the game in a few days.
Same thing happened with BoF3 to me.