/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9993141

Had a killer port of Oils Well that plays wonderfully

>>9993141
The Famicom was somewhat based on it. Things could have gone very differently if the Coleco Adam disaster didn't happen.

Atari 2600, 5200 and 7800 can do stuff the nes can't. Astrocade had pretty close to arcade hardware but the roms were too small to make good use of it. The super cassette vision was also technically much better than famicom in sprites but weaker in backgrounds, don't know if its after.

>>9993141
>>9993193
>I get my opinions from youtube
pls share links so I can laugh even harder

>>9993289
What can 2600 do what NES can't aside from rewriting video signal specs midframe like a madman due to the lack of framebuffer?

>>9993289
k but this thread is about the coleco, which mogs atari

>>9993141
I cannot into 1st/2nd gen consoles, just too primitive

>>9993807
7800 makes Coleco look like a joke

>>9993806
>aside from rewriting video signal specs midframe
Also possible on the NES. Not to the same degree, but necessary to do certain things.
>like a madman
And by madman you mean someone who has at least a basic grasp of how things work below a tile editor, right?
>>9993807
I'm not sure you fully understand how important it if for anon demonstrate to everyone that he instantly became an expert on "obscure" old consoles after watching a youtube last week. This is the manlets identity for Christs sake. Don't embarrass him in front of his mothers corpse in the rocking chair.

>>9993193
They're not architecturally similar at all.
>>9993935
The 7800 is 2 years newer, of course it does.

>>9993951
Atari 2600's video output is entirely controlled by the program, down to such structural things like refresh rate and line count. It is absolutely impossible to alter those on NES as it has a fixed size frame buffer.

>>9993963
>zommer's shitpost output is entirely controlled by the youtube channel the child gets its opinions from down to such structural things like its propensity to cope.
lol. Not sure what shithole you crawled in from where retarded ignorant zoomie hot takes are met with anything but mockery, but suggest you go back there posthaste. Or bullshit more. I really enjoy dissecting the arguments of ignorant parroting fools.

>>9993141
agreed, if we don't count computers
and Vectrex looked pretty cool too, but I never tried it

>>9993963
>when you're so btfo by facts you need to tj

Literally no one cares about this garbage but soulless zoomers desperately trying to feign inclusion in "retro gaming culture" by memorizing irrelevant historical facts. They're physically incapable of relating to, connecting with, or even simply appreciating games, so they cling to mastery of checklist minutia as a substitute.

>>9994512
Check under your bed, there might be a zoomer hiding there.

>>9993141
my grandparents had one of these with quite a few games. looking back its strange they had it. my grandma's favorite game was ladybug. i dont think my grandpa ever played it. also remember playing burgertime, qbert, smurfs, cabbage patch kids, pitfall, montezumas revenge, and some coloring book thing

>>9994512
>I don't care therefore nobody does
You will never fit in

>>9993931
1st gen is like an enhanced 60s party game with overlays and accessories.
2nd gen has some great stuff from Midway, Atari, Sega, Taito, Nintendo, and Namco among others.
Ms. Pac-Man is a good example of a refined 2nd gen game - fast, polished, fun to play and a notable improvement over the original.
The early generations are interesting because they slowly introduce core concepts so elementary to what a video game is that they are easy to miss to someone used to the complexity of newer games.

>>9993141
No, the Atari 2600 had some great games. It had a ton of crappy games too, but so did the NES.

There are no worthwhile pre famicom consoles, arcade yes.

>>9996938
-t. Zooms into hyperspace

>>9996951
Whatever you say, I’m sure you play 2600 games all the time

>>9996959
I was born in the 90s and I can recognise that there are good 2600 games.

H.E.R.O, Frogs and Flies, Pitfall, Adventure, Combat, and a bunch of others.

They're still charming and fun today. It's just a different mindset to today. You weren't dedicating 20 hours of your life to the games. They're little fun games that you play for 10-20 minutes and then move on. Or some of them you can spend more time trying to get a high score, or you can play them with friends. They're not advanced. Most of them are like arcade games, just play for as long as you can. But some of them are the stepping stones to gaming as we think of it today.

Am I playing Atari every day or any other console like it? Nope. But every now and then it's fun to boot up Stella and try some random game I've never played before for 10 minutes and then move on to something else.

You're just close minded.

honorable mention: Astrocade

>>9996959
>I’m sure you play 2600 games all the time
Last year I played them almost non-stop during the Summer.
>cut grass
>play Flashback Portable
>make weenie roast
>confirm E.T. is indeed shit for the 800th time
>play in pool
>et cetera

Still can't totally beat that Red Sea Crossing game, but I love it.

>>9996984
>They're still charming and fun today. It's just a different mindset to today. You weren't dedicating 20 hours of your life to the games. They're little fun games that you play for 10-20 minutes and then move on. Or some of them you can spend more time trying to get a high score, or you can play them with friends. They're not advanced. Most of them are like arcade games, just play for as long as you can. But some of them are the stepping stones to gaming as we think of it today.
>Am I playing Atari every day or any other console like it? Nope. But every now and then it's fun to boot up Stella and try some random game I've never played before for 10 minutes and then move on to something else.
>You're just close minded.
Well said, anon.

>>9997060
It had a strangely active homebrew community in the 1980s thanks to third party RAM expansions for BASIC programming.

>>9993193
Are you sure your not thinking of the SG-1000.

>>9997223
Coleco and Nintendo had some deals in early 80s and at one point NoA execs informed Coleco that they were going to make their own console soon. Nintendo was fully aware of ColecoVision and probably used it as a specs goal to surpass.

>>9995408
>this is your take away
>"guys i need to know every single detail about the exact precise release date of the colecovision so i can be a real retro video game fan"
Embarrassing.

>>9997223
SG-1000 and Famicom released on the same day so its unlikely.
Besides, the SG-1000 was already basically a Colecovision so its a moot point

>>9997060
Don't forget the Intellivision and Odyssey 2!

>>9993141
>only
the coleco with rollercontroller is godtier
but the bally astrocade and other gen2 systems have their merits

the upfront cost being with it you is situational
fairchild channel f = cart 26
bally astrocade = space fortress
atari 5200 = robotron + roller controller titles
atari 2600 = obv godtier and i wont elaborate

>>9997857
based
ufo is a great game
one of my favorites on the system
when my system dies i will be replacing it immediately

>>9997085
Defender is is pretty addictive for me.

river raid makes the 2600 worthwhile

>>9993935
no it doesnt. what does it have like 5 games wort playing while coleco has dozens

>>9997223
SG-1000 was virtually a coleco clone

>>9994512
You can enjoy things that aren't good but are at least interesting you know... I feel like we might as well throw out most of literature too while we're at it. There's a lot of books that never made it to "classic" status from the 1800s that still have relevance for their historical value, and or influence on what came after. These early video games are the same. (and only take a few minutes to play to give you a "huh, that was neat" and move on without wasting much of your time)

This is a young medium, eventually a fair chunk of the medium will have nobody to be nostalgic about it, and we will have a different discussion then.

>>9997341
Indeed. You need to have designed and built a colecovision clone from scratch using vintage parts to be a real quite the retro gamer

The spectroon fears the chadleco

It had the best graphics and some good ports, but the controllers were shit. Atari is the best fun still.

>>9997857
I'm glad someone brought up the Odyssey 2. It has some awesome stuff on it, like "Attack of the Timelord" and "Killer Bees".

>>10001708
The Coleco controller is kino

>>10001708
The controllers were only shit if you sucked, They were extremely high quality and if you held them like a controller and not like a tv remote they worked perfectly.
The Intellevision controllers were of similar design but far lower quality and it shows.

>>10002532
Colecovision Controllers are indeed quite durable. I've never seen overt complaining about one breaking.
Intellivision controllers, I'm sure they are at least slightly behind in terms of durability on average in comparison to the Colecovision and Channel F's respective controllers. This is especially the hardwired model I controllers, I think. Still more durable than the 5200 Supersystem weak rubber boot-based controllers, as well as most Odyssey 2 controllers.

>>9993141
>>9993141
Megamania on Atari 2600 is legit a better game than dozens and dozens of shumps that have come after it. Has multiple levels, fun challenge, and the OG enterprise for your ship type as a nod to Galaga having an Xwing (IMO)

Great game and still fun in 2023.

>>10002532
Cope.

>>9993141
people still port sg-1000 and msx games to this thing

a brazillian dude also made a RAM upgrade module that has arcade perfect donkey kong and pacman

>>10004267
there are some nice original games too

>>10003872
Fuck you Atariturd.

i'm tempted to buy a super cassette vision because it has doraemon, lupin and dragon ball games

>>9994512
you would actually be correct for most atari competitors honestly, but the colevovision DID have a decent following back when it came out, and some of those people are still alive.
the same goes for the zx spectrum, intellivision and a bunch of other stuff