/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1685697
Lets do a comparison of PVM CRT vs Filtered LCD.

X-men vs street fighter (at 384×224p)
CRT Sony PVM 14m2u
LCD ASUS VW246h (2ms response time)

first up is the CRT.

>>1687802
LCD

(retro arch VBA core, with the crt-interlaced-halation shader)

>>1687807
crt

>>1687808
LCD

>>1687813
CRT

>>1687816
LCD


these two do the best job in a back and forth

>>1687819
CRT

>>1687821
LCD

>>1687824
CRT

dat ass...

>>1687825
LCD

2x rogue

I might do a neogeo game next

(any suggestions?)

what do you guys think?

I think that shader does a fairly good good job

>>1687807
?VBA core

sorry, I meant FBA Core

>>1687802
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>>1687808
>>1687813
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>>1687835

Well the colors are still not quite right, the contrasts are still no good, and it's missing something,like grain, stuff like that, making it look like there are just darker lines that have been added.

>>1687851
>Well the colors are still not quite right

that could be easily fixed with some calibration

> the contrasts are still no good

calibration could also help with that. alternatively, another type of modern display could be use (Plasma or OLED)


>and it's missing something,like grain

what? I don't see any grain on the CRT.

>making it look like there are just darker lines that have

the shader also has a subtitle blooming effect. it might be hard to pick that in these (crappy) screenshots.

>>1687851
Are you using RGB on the CRT? It doesn't look anywhere near as clear as it should be on a monitor like that.

>>1687875
I'm using component,

(I also have the aperture knob turned all the way down)

it could also just be because the camera is old and crappy)

>>1687871
>that could be easily fixed with some calibration
>calibration could also help with that. alternatively, another type of modern display could be use (Plasma or OLED)
Well get started calibrating or showing off a plasma or OLED then my friend!

>>1687883
has anyone tried a Laser TV?

I hear they look better then plasma. they also say the color is awesome (sort of how sharp talk up their 4 color tvs)

seems like it would be way closer to a CRT. (electron gun)

>>1687883
I've ordered a (used) sony OLED TV, I hope it gets here soon.

>>1687883
>>1687890

Sony Has new PVM and BVM monitors made with OLEDs

looks nice. (I want one)

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-monitors/cat-oledmonitors/

>>1687871
>>1687875

plasma is dead, and it looks way worse than today's current LCD/LED tech.

>>1687883
I was more interested in showing off how close the definition was on the Emulator vs the CRT

I though the look was rather close. however, pictures don't do either screen justice.

(I need a better camera)

>>1687891
http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/product/broadcast-products-professional-monitors-oled-monitors/bvm-e250a/features/#features

>>1687894
>plasma is dead,
Dying. And only for the same reasons CRT died.

>and it looks way worse than today's current LCD/LED tech.
lel. Best Buy, pls go.

>>1687891
OLED looks great with digital sources. But retro vidya is not digital.

>>1687907
>OLED looks great with digital sources. But retro vidya is not digital.

It has to look better than LCD/LED Right?

(I think LED tvs look shitty even compared with old LCDs)

Good night sweet prince. I had to part with this guy. Good thing is that there is flea market near me where I can buy cheap CTR along with consoles, but this dude was in the family for 30 years. ;_;

>>1687935

What happened? Did it died?

>>1687939
Capacitors went to hell, it was beyond repair.

>>1687995

Aww shit, no cool anon. I hope you'll find another set that isn't a Chinese shitbox. Good luck!

>>1687908

I'd imagine if you used a good scaler like that Framemeister thing (and who knows, since it's professional grade that display probably has a much better scaler than consumer grade displays) it would be pretty good if you were willing to drop a lot of money.

>>1687886
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>>1687908

The problem these technologies will always have vs. CRT is their inability to display multiple resolutions without scaling. This problem is usually compounded by the fact that old consoles use odd, non-standard resolutions (like 240p) that the scalers cannot understand and thus mangle. High quality external scalers like the XRGB mini are of course a good solution to this, but why drop all that money on an expensive scaler when a good CRT can be found for very cheap or even free?

>>1688146
Some HDTVs DO recognize and display 240p. There are actually 852x480 native plasmas.

>>1686549

I'll bump my own question, what kind of cable do I need to make my own SCART → BNC adapter? I already have a few coax cable taken from old antenna cables, and a box full of audio cable.

Shit brand coming through

>>1688235

Why do you need to make your own adapter? There are plenty available online.

>>1688335

Because I already have a shit ton of BNC and RCA stuff anon.

>>1688353
And yet you really can't let your imagination go wild enough to figure it out?

Unleash the beast, mang. Grant yourself permission to solve your own challenges.

>>1688353
>>1688235
You need a SCART female, like the ones you'll find on SCART switches or mergers. Then you just need to wire it correctly to the BNCs that you already have, maybe insulate it. If your monitor supports CSync you can just wire the composite to sync. If not you'll need an LM1881 "sync stripper"

>>1688376

Okay, but do I need coax cables or simple wires are enough? Which one gives the best results?

>>1688393
Well, the thicker and more insulated the better but coax would be overkill.

I'll kill this thread with this post

>>1688595
mmm..mokay

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NEW THREAD

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>>1688308
Dude, I had the same TV, it was my first component television, hell I didn't even know that thing existed, and I was pretty shocked when I first used it with my recently bought Xbox 360 in 2005.

Yes, I didn't knew component existed until 2005 and I thought that "Component IN" label in the front of the TV was just a buzzword. I even realized it have S-Video and that I could connect my laptop there. What a nice TV.

The only bad thing I can say about it is that for some reason I can't configure the brightness and some games looks too dark with the component cables.

Now is sitting on my sister's room.

>>1688984
oh wait it's not exactly the same, well at least it's similar.

>>1688308
Sanyo'a fine. Middle tier Japanese brand.

>>1688308
>>1688984
These aren't the same TV.

>>1687894
>and it looks way worse than today's current LCD/LED tech.
You're either trolling or delusional.

>>1687908
>It has to look better than LCD/LED Right?
Probably.... They have even worse input lag though.

>>1688984
your sister owns some really slutty looking dolls.

Post more of them

Would there be a drop in quality and potentially any introduced input lag if I did a VGA to S-Video conversion?

>>1690718
>VGA to S-Video
Depends on the quality of the scaler, what do the reviews say?