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>>9042509
It's actually worse than the G11, because H&K and Dynamit Nobel actually solved the problem with cook-off, something which you can have happen with the ZM66.
At least the ZM66 is really lightweight and commonplace, so it's essentially disposable, just throw it away and get a new one when it starts acting up.

>>7816267
It's NUTS. Given the timeframe, I hypothesize that the VP70M was inspired by the hyperburst concept of the G11 project, and potentially intended as a companion sidearm, the idea being of a REALLY fast burst letting off all the projectiles before the recoil impulse has a chance to affect the shooter's point of aim, thus increasing hit probability.

If this is the case, then the very heavy trigger of the pistol I think kind of defeats that concept a bit, even if you stage it a bit like a Glock or revolver, and even if you have the stock tight to your shoulder. I think the reason that hyperburst works at all for the G11 is that the entire action of the gun recoils inside of its body in one long stroke or all three shots, taking a lot of that recoil energy (along with the G11 being rifle which you can hold and support properly with multiple different points of contact), whereas the VP70's slide bottoms out with every single shot. Doesn't really provide a particularly great benefit in the end for the G11 even, hit probability only increased a moderately, when they had hoped to double it, if not more.

I think there's very good reason that armies and agencies around the world stuck with much more conventional sidearms and rifles, I wouldn't want to be a soldier and get issued a rifle where I couldn't hope to address anything at all with the action in the field, at least with an M16, AKM, FAL, or G3, you can open one of those up and take out the bolt and get a look inside and on the bolt group, replacing a firing pin or extractor takes maybe a few minutes, while for the G11 you would have no recourse but turning it in at your armory so the designated watchmakers can work on it, hope you're not days away from base.
Same for the VP70, I wouldn't expect a target pistol trigger or sights, but preferably something basic and workable to save me in a close encounter if I don't have my long gun on me. Very fascinating concepts though.