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>>10900621
I know, price shot up like crazy around 2021, you can argue part shortage but that shortage is over now so no reason it should still be so expensive.

>>10852046
>I genuinely don't know where you retards get the "$600" price that you throw around from.

From people who seethe every time they see the word "FPGA" and intentionally mis-represent the price as a way to troll, or even just plain trolls. No different than that guy who keeps posing that "thing > thing" copypasta in every FPGA thread.

>>10852063

And my car is more powerful than an expensive blender.... your point? The two aren't comparable.

>>10852065
I agree, though it still would not cost $600, also OP is not wrong in that all you really need is the DE--10 and a RAM module.

>>10852070
Boards that give them a JAMMA connector exact for exactly that reason.

>>10852569
Even high-end modern consumer CPUs can't handle cycle accurate N64 emulation at anywhere close to a playable speed, nor can they handle transistor-accurate NES emulation, I doubt we will get 100% accurate PS2 emulation in software anytime soon... also PCSX2 is like the ZSNES of PS2 emulators, it will never hit 100% accuracy. Though I don't think any FPGA that doesn't cost as much as a used modern car will be able to handle a PS2 anytime soon either.

>>10852693
Incorrect, first of all the only parts you really need are the DE-10 and RAM (and even the RAM is not necessary depending on which cores you care about) but if you wanted the full "sandwich" setup it would still cost far less than $600 to build one.

>>10852745
Yeah, the prices were roughly the same form 2017 to 2020, and then suddenly started skyrocketing in 2021, pic related.

>>10853598
I'm curious, what do you use the Digital I/O board for?

>>10679224
>So how come Nintendo used technology akin to that of the Raspberry Pi in their S/NES Classic console instead of “closer to the metal” technology like you mention?

Others have said cheaper, but that doesn't even begin to cover it. It's CONSIDERABNLY cheaper, almost comically so.

The DE-10 Nano board is currently $225, and that's only because it's price spiked to almost a hundred more than it originally was just a few years ago (see picrel). Yet, this is still cheap for such a FPGA board because it's heavily subsidized. There are many other FPGA boards with weaker FPGA chips and won't even include the additional ARM CPU and RAM that the DE-10 Nano board has that cost more because those are not subsidized.

The cheapest you can get the Cyclone V chip alone (JUST the chip, as in, you basically have to solder a BGA CPU-like package onto the rest of whatever you're using) is around $60, many closer to $100.

.... meanwhile you can get a Raspberry Pi Zero for as little as $10... and that's the consumer price for the entire pre-assembled board, not the price of just the ARM chip that is more than overkill for SNES software emulation already.

For the price a DE-10 Nano is going for right now you can buy 22 Pi Zeros.

The hardware needed to do SNES emulation in software vs FPGA is literally around ***20 TIMES*** cheaper.

>>10655235
>They are selling their leftover surplus
>It's just the deeply discounted "clearance price" that Terasic is offering right now

My anon in Christ, the price has done nothing but go UP, as well as demand. The price started skyrocketing in 2021 and is nearly double what it used to cost in 2017. Yes, they are likely selling it below cost... that's because they are, again, being subsidized by the US government so they are still not losing money on it. These boards were intended for education, and are still being used for that because the FPGA chip on them despite being a decade old is still overkill for educational purposes, so there is no need to replace it anytime soon, nor to stop producing it.

It sure as fuck is not a clearance price to sell remaining stock of a discontinued product.