/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10405815

It's not a bad game but it's the weakest of the series. The level design is bland, the boss AI are terrible, the charge shot is overpowered, and most of the weapons are unfun to use. Also it's full of lag.

Protoman romhack makes it fun though

I'd rather have it be Protoman

For me, it's playing *as* Protoman

I don't know what you're talking about, Protoman is the one saving the day

>>8635628
>pretty sure they rewrote the engine after 3

Except from MM1 and 2 which are incredibly similar internally, every MM game functions completely differently.

Though obviously there will be similarities in the small things (MM5 has a lot of behaviours similar to 4, and 6 has a lot of behaviours similar to 5, for instance many enemies in the sequel being based on enemies from the previous games wether you realize it or not)

each game also brought its share of technical innovations but I think 4 and 5 were the ones that brought the most. IIRC 4 was the first to introduce palette and tile swaps for background mid-level thus increasing the diversity and level of graphics possible within a single stage.
5 has an amazing dynamic sprite loading system which automatically loads the correct sprite banks on the fly depending on which object, and which frame of said objects, need to be displayed

>>8109701

5 is the worst of the original 6 but it's still a good game

The only people who think 5 is the best are basically casuals who maybe played each game in the series once, probably didn't even beat most of them.
But 5, they could beat, because it's an easy game with bad level design and enemy placement and it has chill musics and graphcis. So they could beat it, they felt good at it.

Now come back when you've beaten every game at least 5 times. Then you'll know it's the worst one.

Shameless shilling

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

>take Protoman from Mega Man 9 / 10
>put it in Mega Man 5, original game as well as a level/gameplay hack
>replaces Beat by a Dash move inspired by Protoman's dash in other games
>also adds in a bunch of bug fixes and QOL stuff

>>7310064
>>7291661
You might be interested in the Protoman romhack


http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

>>7194513
Trying playing it as Protoman

MM5 is cool but playing as Protoman

There are plenty of hacks which make MM games better. Lag reduction patches, bug fixes, etc

For MM3, there is "Improvement" which gets rid of all lag, fixes a lot of glitches, and also has some other additions/changes which you may or may not like
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/992/

For Rockman 4 (doesn't work with MM4), lag reduction patch, there are two patches, one "standard" lag reduction, and another one which also changes other things like being able to switch weapons on the fly (but also gets rid of the autoscroll sections...)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z02krkks30sogzh/Rock4Optimization_v3.zip?dl=1

For Rockman 5, but these ones also works with MM5. Lag reduction patch:
http://www.himaq5.xyz/rock5easily/archive/rock5_lite.zip
Lets you switch weapons on the fly (select, down+select, select+start):
http://www.himaq5.xyz/rock5easily/archive/rock5_weaponselect.zip

Rockman 6 (does not work with MM6):
Lag reduction patch but also speeds up the process of many things, like loading times, scrolling when entering a room, etc,
and also fixes sliding: In the original MM6, and unlike other MM games, you couldn't jump during a slide, plus there is a small delay, wait time, at the end of a slide. This fixes both:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yop86w163oh1p67/Rock6Optimization101_.zip?dl=1

Standalone version of the fixed sliding:
http://web.archive.org/web/20180919180421/http://www.geocities.jp/borokobo/zip/Rock6FixSlide2.zip

Small hacks for MM4-5-6 that makes the sound of charging the charge shot fade out:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5072/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5066/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5067/

Play as Protoman in MM5:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

and since you like Protoman

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

>>6749787
That's crazy. Unlimited is indeed the best fan made MM game, but they still couldn't help themselves to add fan fiction bullshit and other things you wouldn't fight in classic MM games like that giant nail mid level boss.

>>6750219
They're okay but generally worse than the originals, except maybe for a couple of things like some of the boss fights.

>>6380891
The worst offender is that MM11 was the first time he was nowhere to be seen in the game since he first appeared in MM3.

>>6358863
Protoman started getting really good in 9 when you can finally play as him and they turned his shield into a great smart mechanic.

Honestly I love the shield, design wuse it's the same mentality of the slide: it's one move but it's a defensive AND offensive move at the same time.

No but it's cool that you can play as Protoman

The ones were you can play as Protoman

There are romhacks to play as Roll in MM1-6
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2265/

You can also play as Protoman in MM5, just like in 9-10
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

4 is the best of the original 6; because it's the most solid one, no glitches, few slow downs, no bullshit moments like all previous 3 games have; while being challenging but fair at the same time and while still having kick ass level design, bosses (for the most part) and musics

The first 3 all have those issues I mentionned one way or another.
5 is the worst one by far. The level design is terrible, it's like empty straight lines while enemies never try to take advantage of the situation or to bring a new small challenge; the bosses are terrible, and on top of this, the entire game is weak to the charge shot.

The charge shot in 4 was still balanced, and is not the best solution to use in all cases, not even compared to regular buster shots.

Including "non-NES NES" MM9 beats them all by far.
10 is good but the pacing and flow of the game is much worse than 9 because they went a little too far with the difficulty.

Thank god the Protoman romhack for MM5 makes it better.

Play as Protoman in Mega Man 5 with all his abilities from MM9/10 and more:

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjj6Nm17OZE

I played the huge demo of Sonic 3 Air and it's great. A very welcome addition to the Taxman ports.

Meanwhile, shameless self shilling:
Play as Protoman in Mega Man 5 with all his abilities from 9-10 and more

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3638/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjj6Nm17OZE