I wouldn't have a problem with them if it was just that. The problem is that Thiefags are OBSESSED with MGS fans and keep comparing their game to it constantly even though they're nothing alike despite technically belonging to the same genre. The first MGS might not be that good as a stealth game, but it has other merits. And it's not like Thief is perfect as one either when stuff like pic related can happen. It has a lot of neat mechanics, sure, but they're not implemented very well.