/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8891696
>where you needed to purposefully fall into traps that put you into lower floors
I went mapless for the entire game except for Ikuto. Fuck Ikuto so hard. I am not a bad enough dude for this shit.

>>8865507
My favorite parts of my favorite JRPG series, Phantasy Star, is trying to find and fight my way through the dungeons, which are literally just mazes

>>8585434
How did you handle this shit? Did you cave in and look up a map for Ikuto? I'm ashamed to say I did.

>>8557625
Twice? You speedrunner, you!

>>8400286
Most of the references in 4 are to 1 anyway, so you'll get almost the 'full experience' as is but you might as well try 2 to see if you like it. The dungeons are a bit wonky but it's perfectly possible to just blunder through them except for this absolute cunt. (trigger warning).

>>6734137
What's this one do for ya?

>>6450435
yeah, shit's wild

>>6198028
>>6199315
That's one of the easy ones lad. You can blunder through that without too much trouble. Try this one on for size. Many ways down, only one way back up. This was the only time in the series I stopped playing blind and looked up a map because fuck this place.

>>5976727
>map of Uzo island
You are like little baby! Watch thees.

>>5781794
>Anyone who didn't use the maps it a tryhard or retarded
Oh have a sook ya sloppy turd. With the exception of Ikuto, which is a genuine piece of fuck, any non-braindead twit can blunder their way through the dungeons without too much trouble without resorting to being a cheap wanker.

>>5706403
>Visit: insane dungeons made by people who punch kittens and puppies!
Can't argue with that. Have some support imagery to go with.

>>5453773
It's okay. Not the highlight of the phranchise but it's got its moments. Pic related is not one of them.

>>5440351
>and the dungeons seem crazy!
Oh, any excuse to post this shitpost of a dungeon.

>>5271976
I don't see the problem with that one. It's pretty ordinary.
>>5272151
Madness at a glance, but you can't fail to blunder your way through quick enough.

Now THIS dungeon is a cunt. The only time in the Phantasy Star series that I say 'fuck it' and bust out a map.

>>5255159
Oh, the Mega Drive 'retranslation'? It's not a proper full retranslation like PS1 has, but it is a mild improvement and improves continuity by using consistant naming. I'd switch if you be arsed copying your save file to match the new rom. If that sounds like impossible computer magic then you're quite fine to just continue with the original release, like I said it's only a mild improvement. It also won't run on real hardware, if that's a factor for you.

>>5084635
>fuck that one dungeon on Dezolis consisting entirely of pitfalls.
This was the one point I stopped playing blind and looked up a map. Because, just fuck this unfun place.

>>5040793
Your complaint does speak for us all, but I think the best thing to do is simply ignore the poofterism and get back on topic.

In this particular case the retranslation is a mild improvement that improves continuity and consistency and that is that.

>>4682819
Then get a load of this. That staircase on the right is the only way back up and it only goes to the enterance. Everything else is a hole that goes down only.

>>4324247
>greendam.png
You are like space baby in space cot, yes? Try this on for size.

>>4325194
>Yeah, I'll definitely be unashamedly using maps and guides.
You're not going to have a good time. If you know exactly where to go you will be underlevelled and jhave no money. You'll join the 'this game is grindy' memesters. The game only becomes grindy when you cheat withh out of game knowledge and need to catch up on all the fighting you didn't do by exploring.

>>3834204
I'll be dam'd, that dam is nothing god dam it.

This is where the fun begins!
And by fun I mean, just give up and look up the solution online even if you do the rest of the game blind because fuck this dungeon.

>>3491086
Climatrol is nothing. I blundered my way through it in no time. Try this cunt on for size.

Can't forget this one!

>>2848902
I mostly avoided using maps (but I definitely did wander around hopelessly), but I gave up and used a map for Ikuto.

Best dungeon ever, though.

>>2851159
As disappointing as it is for those of us that like 1st-person dungeon crawling, trying to traverse the giant nightmare mazes that masqueraded as dungeons in PS2 in 1st person perspective would have made them so much harder. I can't imagine trying to do Ikuto in 1st-person.

>>2730238
The original series is and will always be my favorite.

>>2731323
>PS1 was too fucking hard, couldn't get to the next town without dying.
You have to grind until you get to ~lv4 right at the start, and then it's pretty easy.

>>2731382
>They get a lot worse than this.
You gave me an opportunity to post my favorite dungeon map!

Ikuto's such a fucking nightmare.

>>2731475
I'm positive either Rune or Alys calls him a guy at some point, but I don't have the patience to read through the script to make sure. The whole story's a glorified "teenage male coming of age" thing anyway (though it's done beautifully), so I'd be pretty confident Chaz is a dude.

>>2731539
Which ones have you been playing, and what sort of trouble have you been having other than "can't into combat"? The only one that's really obtuse as far as combat goes is III (which is part of why gets so much hate), and I guess II can be a little confusing navigating the menus.