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>military rounds do not do tissue damage
Yes they do. Damage is tissue damage.

>they are all full metal jacketed
Yes they are.

>and are made to penetrate
Yes they are. Almost all bullets are made to penetrate.

>Using hollow points, lead tips and all that rip and tear are banned by geneva convention.
Hollowpoints and softpoints are banned by the HAGUE convention, a convention that the United States never ratified.

A load such as 5.56x45mm M855, is a Full Metal Jacket round, but 5.56 is a fast round, a very very fast round, when it enters a meaty matter, that energy will go absolutely fucking nuts, the round is not a hollowpoint or a softpoint, but the inherent characteristics of the M855 will naturally tumble, bounce and fragment inside a body.

M855 is a modern 5.56x45mm load, by the way, that stuff has been known since Vietnam, hell, the Russians did it too with the 7.62x39mm (though it doesn't do it quite as well, or quite as often).

There's nothing that bans fragmenting ammunition specifically, just hollowpoints, softpoints, and shotguns (the Germans cried like babbies in WW1 that US GI's used 12-gauge trench-guns to mess up krauts)

>Not saying countries don't violate that shit all the time
The Hague Convention was only drafted because people were using primitive cast-lead flat-heads and hollowpoints, along with dum-dums (primitive hollowpoints produced in the field with the help of a knife or cutting tool), not because it was considered cruel, but because they thought the wounding "looked ugly", which shouldn't matter if it can effectively kill the target anyway.

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