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>>3479496
>certain enemies and bosses

What are you talking about? It's got different enemies and bosses from the ones in Rondo.
Have you seen pic related in Rondo? No, because it's exclusive to Dracula X.

>and has overall worse level designs
Not like Rondo's level design is brilliant either, Dracula X's level design is more on par with CV1 and 3.

>the last stage is only about a minute long for fucks sake

Yeah, but so was the last stage in Castlevania 1.

>There is no reason to waste time over it when Rondo is objectively better.

There is a reason: it's not even the same game.
Also, Rondo is subjectively better, not objectively. As in, yeah, I do prefer Rondo too, but Dracula X is also worth playing and not as bad as people parrot without even playing it.

End with the meme already.

>>2866880


>Dracula X is a watered down port of Rondo meme

Yeah man, it's, liek, tooootally a port!

btw, has australia already posted itt?

>>2758206
>Why are Castlevania IV fans so sensitive?

I don't see IV fans being sensitive, I just see a lot of people baiting by calling IV bad because subjective, erroneous arguments such as "it's too easy!", so don't expect people not to call out on your bullshit. If you don't like people calling you out ony our faggotry, don't be a faggot.

>No.

Yes. Anyway none of the 16 bit Castlevania are hard, so it's pointless. If you genuinely think Rondo or Bloodlines are hard, then... I dunno, your opinion man.

>Are you really gonna make the case that Dracula X on the SNES is better than the original Rondo Of Blood?

He never said Dracula X is better than Rondo or viceversa. Both games are different, we've been through this in every Castlevania thread made on /vr/ in the past year already. If you call Dracula X a "bad rondo port", you're memeing, simple as that.

>butchered mechanics

you're getting really desperate. What mechanics are "butchered"?

>tedious level design

You didn't like vertical levels? I guess you don't like Castlevania III either, then :)

>terrible hitboxes

Oh look, the same shit AVGN and his friend were saying about Bloodlines. Fuck off.
It's because of shitposters like you who don't know what they're talking about that we can't have good Castlevania threads.

>>2743245

>same bosses

Are you sure?

I'd call it more like a "reimagining" of Rondo. The levels are completely different.

>Too many vertical rooms with stairs and flat platforms

I don't see that as a problem. I loved Castlevania III.

>I feel a lot of that comes from the shoddy hitboxes, slower movement, and a completely botched implementation of the backflip.

Again, I didn't ever had any problem with the controls. Feels like 'vania to me.
I think it's harder because the level design is more unforgiving, Rondo is too easy overall except for a few sections. The first level of Rondo is a total cakewalk, for example, whereas on Dracula X there's medusa heads, right on the first level.

Anyway, my point isn't wether Dracula X is better than Rondo or not. My point is that we shouldn't compare each other as if they were the same game, because they're not. I like both.

>>2730771

>version of Rondo of Blood

not this meme again, Dracula X is a different game. And it's not a "foreigner's game", it was released in japan as Dracula XX.

I can already see where this thread is going though. Fuck Castlevania threads that aren't about music, they always suck.

I agree OP is a faggot for starting YET ANOTHER Castlevania thread with "x is the best in the series, your favorite is weebshit" shitposting, but you're all equally hipster faggots for defending so vehemently MUH JAPANESE-ONRY RONDO OF BROOD (yes I know it's on VC and PSP).

Dracula X is a really good entry in the series, one of the hardest too (fuck off with the "bad level design" meme).

Anyway, fuck you all, I hate the Castlevania fanbase these days.... CV fans used to be cool...

>>2657512
>SNES version of Rondo

There is no SNES version of Rondo. Dracula X is a different game.

>>2621859

I don't remember this boss fight in Rondo... care to refresh my memory? I haven't played Rondo in a while, maybe I just have bad memory :^)

>you should be gassed.

lol, so edgy.

>>2517248

I miss my Dracula X cartidge. All I have left is the manual.

By the way, while Dracula X is more straightforward, you can still rescue Maria, Anette and the 2 maidens (although Maria isn't playable), and about 3 levels in the game have alternate paths that lead to alternate levels. In that way it's not all that different from Rondo's overall design.

It was my first Castlevania game and it is a damn good classicvania title. I find it weird how many people bash it as a "bad rondo port" when it's actually a different game.
Even the first stage, has drastically different layout, enemies and even a different boss at the end (Dragon/sea serpent on Rondo, Cerberos in Dracula X, which is a boss that doesn't even appear on Rondo of Blood).

It is indeed one of the most underrated or underappreciated titles on the franchise. The whole "backgrounds look bland" argument can be easily countered by the MANY bland backgrounds on the original Rondo of Blood (plain brick walls, anyone?).
Dracula X is one of the most challenging games on the series, people who liked CV1 and 3 should enjoy Dracula X.

>>1989246

Yeah, I was like that before, too. Before I could actually play Rondo.

As I said, DX was my first one, I loved it, I think it was a great introduction to the series because the controls are classic 'vania, as are the levels: pure straightforward action from beginning to end, hard as balls, great graphics and music. What else could I ask for as a 10 year old?

But then with the internet, I came across CV Dungeon which became one of my favorite sites, and I remember reading about DX being a bastardized port of Rondo of Blood and how Rondo was superior, bla bla.
I thought it was true, I thought they actually cut the alternate paths from Rondo and cut Maria, and made the overall game worse. And I was kinda disappointed that my introduction to the series, while great for me, was just a "bad port of the great Rondo of Blood only-japan release". Feels badman.

But that's not true. I learned that when I actually, finally got to play the original Rondo on the PSP. I was surprised to find the first level started identical to Dracula X, but then barely anything else resembled the game I had played before. Different level structure, different bosses, different enemies, or placed differently/in different levels (for example the giant bull creature that chase you on level 2 of Rondo appears in the middle of the first level of Dracula X).
First boss on Rondo of Blood is the dragon, first boss on Dracula X is Cerberos (a boss that doesn't even appears in Rondo!).

Nope, sorry, not the same game at all. That's when I realized all this "DX is a bad port of Rondo" was bullshit and regained my love and appreciation for Dracula X.

Mind you, I still like Rondo more. I'd reccommend people playing Rondo first, then Dracula X. Of course, as Rondo was released first, and DX is more like a remix/reimagination of it, but it's still worth playing. I think it's especially worth playing for people who liked Rondo and want a more classic-type challenge.

>>1854147

Dracula X (SNES) is not included in Dracula X Chronicles. It's a different game than Rondo of Blood.