/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5572525
What are you, fucking dumb? That's obviously "ass". There isn't even an r in what you posted.

>>4829762
>In fact that's why they've run out of momentum as a genre
Oh yeah, I see how Persona, FF, Nier or Souls games totally ran out of steam, even DQXI sold millions and millions while PoE barely even breaks half a million copies and 90% of the western production besides Bethesda's crap and Witcher is virtually nonexistent at any level of the world market.
But sure, tell me how things like Underrail are massive multimillion sellers, on the retro board.
>while more powerful computers are allowing WRPG developers to stuff more and more and more crazy shit into their games
>What is Elona
>or do you have some other rationalization for this undeniable shift in the market?
What rationalization?
What shift in the market?
You're seriously arguing with me that consolized CRPGs like Skyrim or The Witcher are anything but massive disappointments that are barely even RPGs, let alone meaningful innovators for the genre?
Are you seriously trying to tell me those games with widespread casual appeal are propelled by their mechanical complexity, innovation or deep roleplaying mechanics?

Since you feel so much in need of validation on an anonymous manchurian antiques board to shitpost with trip while contributing nothing, let me remind you the ultimate truth about multimillion sellers, they don't sell that much because they're daring and innovative, they sell because they're extremely accessible for the vast majority of the customers, they sell because they do not require any particular degree of skill and are tailored to be enjoyed by as many people as possible by lowering the barrier as much as possible, they sell because they have massive marketing campaigns, they sell because they have shiny graphics.
This is why even back then Wizardry 4 was a massive flop, this is why things like Uncharted Waters 2 sold less than FF5 despite having massively more complex systems and actual roleplaying, educate yourself instead of being the bitter, ignorant WRPG only faggot you are.

>>4268737
>playing shmups

>Implying

>>4196361
>they're just just friends
Zozma pretty much tells Asellus to stop hiding her gay, it's not outright stated in black and white but Asellus is confirmed homo in all of her endings but the human one, hell the Mystic ending is literally her building a harem of women, and to Illdon dismay being even "better" than daddy Orlouge at that.
She probably grew one or two dicks in that ending too, let that sink in for a moment.

>>3754162
>not liking the ludo-est of gaming genres

>>3599742
>muh steam is bad maymay

>>3580592
>JRPGs
>good mechanics
>muh turn-based menu-driven rock paper scissor gameplay is so deep guys, honest

>>3522104
>being a moralfaggot over 30-year-old abandonware

>>3494497
Says the guy that likes IV's shitty soundtrack.

>>3476051
I don't like any videogames.

>>3439672
>implying anyone can be worse than the original Australia-kun in all his glory

>>3417465
>another fantasy game turned anime.
Feeling old already? You sound like those cranky old dadrock faggots.
You still have to tell me what is "anime" by the way.
>All the games you listed, again, were only available in Japan at release.
And?
>Without importing and learning Japanese, or emulating, the games you mention are unplayable.
Same thing for virtually any game, I lived in Europe and I didn't speak English back when I was a kid, so I couldn't have played FFVI for instance, that doesn't mean FFVI didn't exist, same for many people that didn't speak english at the time and nowadays.
That is YOUR problem, if at your age you only know one language and you like videogames as much as you say you do, that's the sorry present you chose for yourself.
>None of those games are Phantasy Star, Shining Force or Breath of Fire
PSO2 exists, Shining Force changed into the Shining series which is still made to this day, the only one that's dead is BoF, and still BoF6 recently came out, as much as you might not like it.
>yet you still want to pretend as if the generation it came out in was defined by said barely existing games.
Are you terminally retarded?
Are you seriously implying right now, that japanese games from the 4th or 3th gen didn't influence japanese developers in making japanese games for the 5th gen japanese consoles? And that they didn't influence the audience? Because they weren't played by westerners? Do you seriously think that "anime" games in the 5th gen were made to appeal to the western market? How delusional are you?
>They made western people okay with looking at terrible Japanese art
Oh really? They must have done a great work with Chrono Trigger, Phantasy Star, Shining Force and so on back then, oh wait...
>Ultima is not an anime RPG
But then why aren't Dragon Quest or Xanadu Anime RPGs?
>the same way JRPGS weren't anime RPGS until they made them that way to sell units.
This is some serious level of self inflicted brainwashing and delusion.
>>>

>>3329121
>he hasn't learned Japanese yet

>>3306830
>SRPG's
>good

>>3283609
>caring about mobile shit

>>3279178
>he hasn't learnt Japanese yet

>>3277172
>he still plays jarpigs

>>3266493
>Master System
>better than NES

>>3230253
>buying games before you play them

>any Sonic game
>deep

>>3225720
>buying Mr. Shitface's games

>>3207052
>Sonic
>big comeback
>implying GOTTA GO FAST was ever good

>>3209208
>VN's
>games