/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2380496
Maybe it's just my 1.09 experience talking, but I wouldn't call Grandfather shitty. GF is good enough to build a melee barb around; you won't get the same kind of results that you would with one of the expensive melee runewords but you will do about as good damage as you possibly could without them. GF also has an absolutely massive boost to stats that makes it good for undergeared characters and is useful on hardcore for strength bugging. It's probably the best melee unique in the game.

>>2381836
Hardcore? I'm playing on East right now.

>>2381921
>>2381976
I love Diablo and consider it a great game in its own right, but the arguments in favor are, in my opinion, nullified more or less entirely by Diablo 2's incredible longevity. I have played the original Diablo to death and I've gotten more or less complete gear builds with all three characters and it didn't take all that long (sorceress took years but it only takes about 15 hell clears to get a fully-geared Rogue). To me, the slow pace isn't better, it's just different. No contest on the plot, though.

The soundtrack is something that I believe is unilaterally superior in Diablo 2. One of the reasons is that if you listen hard enough, you'll find that most of the Diablo soundtrack can be found in Diablo II (Tristram in... Tristram and half of the dungeon themes are in Act III dungeons). But mostly I just find that Diablo II's soundtrack expands on the atmospheric premise across a bunch of environments quite well and benefits from being a larger body of work.