/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9772598
It never seemed to me that Vic didn't think Japanese games were good or funny, we was a classic weeaboo after all. I always figured it was just cause he was an arrogant hack. It's not just the cringe worthy translations, it's all the dumb fuck gameplay changes he made. This is the man who looked at Silhouette Mirage and said to himself "Treasure sucks at balancing action games, I can do better."

As for the other companies, I don't think they so much followed the specific example of WD as much as they were just lazy and made the common (and misguided) assumption that the average gamer would be turned off by that silly japanimation stuff.

As for people defending old shitty translations, I haven't seen much of it from either side. The only disagreement I've had to complaining about Vic and his shitty sense of humor were people saying he's based for that. But maybe that's what you mean? Also I never go to neogaf, reddit, Twitter etc so outside of here I have little insight to what kids are fighting about.

>>5375070
Yeah because Clinton and Austin Powers jokes are just what we needed shoehorned into a fantasy game. Not to mention fucking with gameplay.

>>5122673
>Why do so many people think Working Designs are the best thing ever?

WD is probably the most hated translation company ever, they get regular hate threads around here. What fucking rock have you been under?

>>4163402
They tend to tinker with things. In Lunar EB you gain magic experience as you battle which you can then choose what you spend it on to level up various characters spells or special abilities.

Vic Ireland thought it would be a grand idea if he made saving your game cost magic experience points. Because you know, save scumming in retro jrpgs was such a huge issue.

He had his fingers like that in just about every project WD ever did. Turned Silhouette Mirage from a fast run'ngun to a snore inducing grind festival.

>>3978594
The original doesn't have pop culture references like that. It's not like it ruins the game, but it's fucking stupid and there's tons of shit like that like Austin Powers jokes.

I was happy we got the game at all, but that was so dumb. But translation shit isn't as bad as him fucking with gameplay.

At least the new Star Dragon song was good.

>>3831334
I consider the Lunars as some of the few RPGs with near perfect difficulty. Which is that by fully exploring each area but not actually stopping to grind your party will be just strong enough that the upcoming boss is challenging but beatable.

I've played every NA released version of the first two games.

>>3747742
Sorry I don't like Austin Powers and extended fart jokes shoehorned into my fantasy realm RPGs. This was a stupid choice, but ultimately doesn't impact much. The bad translation was far worse for it.

>>3566298
That's what I meant about not being interested in tchotchkes and things, I never imagined any need for a "bootleg deterrent" because I was only interested in the game and never heard of EB or other major chains actually selling bootlegs.

Not the guy you were talking to about Silhouette Mirage, but their changes to that game made me so mad. I had played the Saturn version first and expected it to still be a fast paced action game. But you literally have to energy drain and cash bash almost every enemy you come across just to keep up and it turns the whole thing into a terrible slog.

I give them credit where they occasionally did good, but in general I hated almost everything they did to change the games they ported.

>>3064667
Ohh you misunderstand. I love Lunar. A lot. Lunar 2 is in my top 3 retro RPGs. I just don't like a lot of what Victor did to it.

The original music was far better. Chisa Yokoyama is far more talented than Vic's friend's fucking wife or whoever butchered those songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqpQ1gaR67k