/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4600995
>Dracula X
>port

>>4518432
>missing a bunch
Not really, it's missing a few. And it has new bosses.
>>4518168
>worst level design
Dracula X is actually more like classicvania, with really hard set pieces. Rondo is a lot easier.
Anyway, I wouldn't say Rondo or Dracula X are among the best level design in Castlevania, but they aren't horrible either.

I just find it weird how some people claim to loathe Dracula X, but then they claim to like Rondo. Makes no sense, Dracula X is like a sort of sequel to Rondo, none, I repeat, none of the levels share any resemblance other than the first level, and even the first level is only similar to the first level of Rondo conceptually, it's the town from Simon's Quest burning, but the design is 100% different - way more challenging on Dracula X, while Rond's first level is a walk in the park.
The only assets that were reused from Rondo were Richter's sprite and regular enemies.
Level assets (backgrounds, tilesets, etc), bosses and level design is like a completely new entry in the series.
I'm not saying you should like it, but if you hate Dracula X, then you shouldn't like Rondo that much either. They're not that different.

>>3835037
The first level looks good in both games.
It's the rest of the levels that make DX look more polished than Rondo.
Like it actually has background graphics instead of brick walls.

>>3805260
>port

>>3563086

>can deflect thrown items

Use Holy Water. Or the flame whip which has a RIDICULOUS reach.

I think you're exaggerating, Castlevania 1 and III have a lot more "bullshit" moments than Dracula X does.
Also, Castlevania isn't known for having fast walk controls, and the jump feels alright to me.

>>3496565

While I generally agree with you, I think you're being too nice to Rondo and too harsh to Dracula X.
Yes, Rondo is a better game, but the visuals aren't that good, a lot of the backgrounds are lazy copypaste walls or 8-bit-style black backgrounds, SNES may look "muddier" but it has a lot more detail put into it

>>3235156
>Yes, the game that's widely renowned for being the magnum opus of Castlevania games.

I dunno, I see it more as a dividing entry in the series than anything, a lot of classic fans don't like it, or at least don't hold it on a pedestal.

>Meanwhile Dracula X literally ripped assets, music and more from the vastly superior Rondo of Blood

SOTN has ripped assets from Rondo and Castlevania IV.
Anyway, yes, Dracula X is supposed to be an alternate version of the story of Rondo and uses many of the same sprites, but many are also new, all the levels are 100% different from anything on Rondo design-wise. It's not the same game at all. You say you have access to both now, but you don't seem to have played Dracula X if you think it's a port or a version of Rondo, they're different games.

Really, I think it's time to let go, both games are good, there's no need to pretend that Dracula X was the bad version of Rondo we got in the west, now we can play both and see they're both different. Rondo is better for people new to the series since it's easier, and Dracula X is better suited for seasoned players that want something more similar to CV1 or III.

>>3112491
>DraculaX look like a wash off version of Rondo

When will this meme finally end?
It's 2016 people, everyone has already played Rondo of Blood either through emulation, re-releases or the actual thing by importing it. It's not the late 90s/early 00s anymore where people fantasized about Rondo being a "Much better japan-onry masterpiece" version of Dracula X, they are both different games completely outside of the setting of the first level (and only the setting, because the design and the boss are different).

Also Rondo is nice, but a lot of the backgrounds are really ugly (like just plain brick walls that look like a NES game). Dracula X has much prettier graphics.
And the music is not terrible at all, in fact I prefer the arrangements of the music on Dracula X than those on Rondo, even if it's not CD quality, Konami were masters of the SNES soundchip by 1995, it sounds really good.

>>3080605

I don't think Dracula X is necessarily "better" than Rondo or III, but I like it all the same, it's a great game that gets too much shit for being erroneously called a "bad Rondo of Blood port", when in fact it's a different game.

>>2832959

holy water nigger

or you can not equip any sub-weapon and use the super flaming whip for more range and damage