/vr/ - Retro Games

>>7446770
This. Also Quake singleplayer is generally not anywhere near as good as Mario 64 unless you like speedrunning or jump maps.
Quake had bigger technical impact i'm sure.
Anyway this is just a /v/ tier bait thread.

>>7415031
the framerate doesn't help either, especially with W1
>>7415071
The problem is the airbraking is static and independent of speed, so you're better just jumping straight into higher classes to learn, which you obviously can't do in the trilogy.
>>7415061
>i can see why wipeout fags think this absolutely shits on f-zero x
Never heard of this. Every wipeout/bng player i've spoken to was an fzero fag.
Fzero and wipeout are both great. Consolewar brainlets need not apply.

>>7201932
>Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast possibly have the best movement
So Quake 3? Only joking mate it's cool as fuck

>>6926930
I am too busy 'gitting gud' at late 90s early 00s multiplayer games that are filled with people who've played thousands of hours for 2 decades. Because I value self improvement more when competition is involved.
I don't really want to experience "the journey" on singleplayer vidya unless I find the game mechanics particularly interesting or engaging. I'd rather be 'gitting gud' on stuff i'm interested in 'gitting gud' at. Something like Ghouls & Ghosts I'd probably respect the spirit of the game and play it without savestates but it's pretty funny people sperg out and cry about casuals whenever you mention savestates. Not every game demands the same amount of attention from me. You're a self centered autist.

>>6263515
Almost every Quake derivative(engine or otherwise) game has defrag equivalent. It's normally called something else though, usually just jump or trick jump.
Warsow - Race
Cod - CodJumper
Enemy Territory - Just "Jump" I think
Unreal Tournament - Also just "Jump"?
CS - Surf & KZ
Halo/Murder Miners
Reflex
Half Life
Even Doom has jump maps.
Q3Defrag is the most comprehensive community, I imagine if you spoke to some of those guys they'd have way more interesting answers. A lot of games are just a map editor and an autist away from having a defrag community. It is a dying art but it's had a little baby revival with games like Apex and Fortnite.

>>5663883
He's dumb but it really depends on what you're talking about. Quake was about 2 decades ahead in terms of movement mechanics and netcode and it's the reason why it still holds up today. Goldeneye is a technically impressive game and really what sets it apart is the dedication to immersion, which FPS games hadn't really done yet.
>>5663742
>>5663770
You're both really just talking over each other like retards. Anon is just saying playing goldeneye multiplayer after quake multiplayer made GE feel like shit, which is a fairly reasonable point given the framerate issues.

What's sad is that all the innovation FPS games like Goldeneye and Quake brought us was for nothing because the FPS genre got homogenized by the mid 2000's into a stagnant bland soup.

>>5643965
TAS?

>>5622789
I'd rather they don't. Quake is playable as is and you can mod it to fuck and back however you like. They fucked QL and don't even get me started on Quake Champions. Who'd have thought they'd see the day where the latest Quake release is worse than an shitty unfinished Unreal game. I've got my faith in fans of the genre to bring us the goodies.