/vr/ - Retro Games

Most early JRPGs felt too grindy, whereas FF2 felt too... easy?

>>9999227
I played it originally in the Origins collection and remember liking it. I heard all the hate for it over the last two decades, but still remember liking it.
I replayed it late last year, and I actually really liked it again. I agree, OP, it's not hard. I did basic level putzing around with people's skills and seeing how things worked and I went through pretty well. I also enjoy how much of an actual dungeon crawl it was. The main emphasis in the game is these large dungeons that often take multiple goes to complete.
Good game. The only bad thing about it to me is actually how magic leveling was a pure number of uses system, which made it basically impossible to level.

>>9999282
Are you that guy who's been playing as many Famicom JRPGs as possible? Also, how do you get those collages of screen shots?

>>10004730
You show 'em Lenny.

>>9999908
nigga just take the L

>>9999089
I have the Genesis version. It's actually not that bad imo but then again I've been playing it since I was a kid so maybe I'm just used to it.

>>9999089
I hate this game but there is something cool about it :

The evil clown dude is in Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel and the storyline overlaps. The clown leaves in Aero 2 at some point and appears in Zero. kp0svk

>>9999089
IIRC
>You have to get/activate the x amount of thingamajigs
>You reached the end of the level without one? Tsk tsk, you can't go on
>The game doesn't actually put you back at the beginning of the level
At least, I don't remember anything obvious indicating you could
>You have to go back by yourself
>The level isn't actually made to go backward and the circus swing thingy have a fucked up camera if you go backward
Fucking why? Did nobody test this shit?
I made it to the second world once and that's it

>>9999089
Same, the second level was where I tapped out. Somehow the first level music was simultaneously very memorable and very terrible, probably due to being circus music.

>>9999089
>I could never make it past the roller coaster stage

>>9999108
>Girls play games, sure
Yeah, that was the question.
>I never got the impression it was anything beyond casual interest.
Female interest is always more casual than male interest no matter the subject. Obsession and mastery are simply masculine traits in general. But yes, there were girls who beat games, though again they were usually in households with brothers and picked it up from them. Hell, my mom beat Super Mario Bros and Zelda on NES before anyone else in the family and my sister beat games like Kirby's Avalanche or Mario Kart ahead of the rest of us.

>>9999139
>Yeah, that was the question
don't get cute with me faggot

>>9999079
This one girl in my class through primary school (early 90s) was like a videogame savant or something, though she was perfectly normal socially and very popular later on even if in a preppy kind of way. Literally the only person I knew personally who had beaten Battletoads around that time.

>>9999079
one of my best friends from the ages of 6-11 did but she was a nintenoid, she played zelda and i didnt like it. We played lots of mario party, smash and 007 nightfire on the gamecube. she got me into runescape as well and she played the sims but mostly just to design houses rather than play the game.

My gf had a DS with an R4 growing up

>>9999058
the mech suit is the most baffling powerup I've come across in a game. It just makes the controls stiffer and your hitbox bigger with zero improvements over regular crash. I'd really like to know what the intention was and why they thought it'd be fun

>>10001969
pretty sure it was just because they needed something RAD for the cover art. all of the vehicles (except maybe the atlas sphere) feel like some random unrefined bullshit they slapped on in the last month, just following in warped's misguided footsteps.

>>9999910
>Supposedly 4 has decent gameplay
I'm playing through it right now, it's some decent fun.
>but I'll never play it after what the devs did to the original trilogy.
I just can't for the life of me understand why they felt the need to remaster/remake the originals. The graphics hold up shockingly well on the ps1, because it's blocky and cartoony and really plays well with the low-quality of that gen hardware.

The big issue I have with Crash 4 is that they just used the new engine from the remakes and I absolutely HATE the new character design and especially the character who looks much larger than Crash and Coco and has tranny/zoomer hair

>>9999058
>the objective is to be a mid 5 or 6 out of 10 game
in retrospect, that's exactly what they ended up with, but at the time of release it felt so much worse because of the disappointment it generated. I was really looking forward to it.
>it had been 3 years since the last crash platform game
>bash was a huge letdown, but this was a new dev on a brand new system
>screenshots looked good
>fully playable coco in previews
>even got hyped by the cover art lol
no way could they screw this up was my thinking, it was going to be a great new start for the series.

>>10002390
>I absolutely HATE the new character design and especially the character who looks much larger than Crash and Coco and has tranny/zoomer hair
Believe it or not that's supposed to be an alternate reality Tawna.

Possible spoilers: https://crashbandicoot.fandom.com/wiki/Tawna_Bandicoot_(It%27s_About_Time)

>download a disc game
>it's a rar and not an iso

>>10000771
The .iso file is in the .rar file you idiot.

use myrient

>download rom
>now downloading supermariobros.exe

new Werther's are too sweet though

>>10000786
this is maybe a dumb question but if I active that mode will other ps2 games load faster too?

>>9999020

Doesn’t ps2 take ages to load
Never looked into buying and hacking one

Can I just install a big SSD or something and games load instantly?
Ps2 isos on ps4 still load for ages

>>9998989
iirc it's almost always better to play on xbox unless otherwise noted.
M$ dumped a ton of money into their platform and made it as easy as possible to work with so the devs who made multiplat games had a much easier time getting them to run on xbox at good performance compared to PS2/GCN


PC mogs them all of course, but that's not the point of the convo

>>10002375
my bad I didn't read op.
Why is this a debate about emulating ps2 vs native xbox?
emulation always wins, just for the control over how the games look and play.
I don't emulate xbox but since those versions are generally superior to PS2, why not try doing that and have best of both worlds?

>emulation always wins

Unless you want to actually play the games

>>10013947
wow thats retarded
do you know when this was exactly? i have an archive of their channel (the videos that were public that is) from march 14, 2022 i could upload to the internet archive if needed

>>10013161
>>10013947
I don't give a shit about this genre, but this is typical Br*tish behavior.

>>10001103
>money to be made in virtual worlds
money arent real in virtual worlds

Sometimes you can find /vr/-stuff in the least expected place (a library sim)

>>10018280

I would say Mortal Kombat 4 is still a 2D game. Its sidestep mechanic is essentially the same as Fatal Fury's plane switching.

>>9998963
Then double dragon is a 3D brawler according to your retard logic

Fatal Fury is the fighting game for people who can think in 4 dimensions.

>>9998901
No. But AOF3 feels like a 3D fighting game stuck in a 2D plane, but it's still a 2D fighting game.

>>9998901
No, even if the perspective changes you're just moving left, right, up and down.

>>10002719
>I don't recall there being too many PC games that even had local simultaneous multi-player on one machine

Most fighting games or arcade titles had them for sure. Only stuff like FPS and RTS required networking, games where the entire screen was clearly set up to accommodate a single player. And even there you had hot seat games where players could take turns (Worms, Heroes of Might & Magic, every chess game ever, etc)..

>>10008386
Even the ring on the finger is there. Genius.

>>10008784
Apparently this allowed 4-player games on Amiga, if you had a special joystick interface. Otherwise, well there's only two ports. And they forgot to add keyboard option for some reason?!!

>>10008197

>>10007042
God damn it lol.

>>10000635
First of all this is a retro board, second only the first Hitman 2016 is worth playing with maybe, NY as a worthwhile stage. Hitman 2 SA is worth playing, good humor mixed with darkness, Contracts is more dreary, Blood Money is still the best Hitman game, it's not as popular because on PC it doesn't support gamepads unless you use Steam and do their remapping.

>>10000635
No it isn't the first 4 Hitman games are the only good ones, and the best stealth games are Thief, Thief 2 and Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

>>10000635
I wasn't trying to attack you personally, you mong, it's just how people talk here. My main problem with the soft reboot trilogy is that it's designed around a controller, and I refuse to use a controller to play games on PC.

>>9999950
Play the Lee Hong assassination. It's like the 3rd or 4th mission of the first game and infinitely more complex than anything in WoA.

Honestly? No, and I say this as someone who loved the series. It's just too simplistic. The main value is as an edgelord stalker/murderer simulator.

>>9998747
my dad played both of them with me watching next to him. loved weird ass castle levels with resurrected knights, second game got me interested in egyptian archeology, and also really neat stealth levels with "show the papers" mechanic. for me it's one of the dadcore games

>>10000593
>>10000594
posted at the same second

>>9998747
both games are kino of the highest order.

>>9998747
The first one means alot to me, haven't played it in like 20 years I guess but I still member it.

>>9999210
>Day of Defeat
>Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
>Battlefield 1942
>Call of Duty 1
This is still peak gaming to me.

Saturn or Director's Cut?

>>10002494
Also a good 3D game!

>>10002538
Unmodified Genesis

>>10000690
Actually some of the songs in Sonic 4 were made from 3D Blast demos.

>>9998743
Played the fuck out of the pc version.

>>10011858
There's a few cases where some Amiga games didn't have in-game music, but the PC version did. Pic related for example.

>>10011864
For me it's OPL (adlib or SB). Pic is a very good example of that, as is Dune.

>>9998710
Yes, but they were ported everywhere and had music and sound effect working simultaneously

Furfag platform

>>9998710
PC was a shit platform, fuck off headache to setup and a rip-off to buy. It was only when doom came out that it was with the effort to hold your nose and jump in that shitshow. Otherwise Amiga was the place to be.

>>10001238
Loved that game and Wings of Fury

Zeewolf and Zeewolf 2: Wild Justice also do it for me (EA Strike games meets Virus)

>>10006063
Castlevania 64 isn't even a bad game.

>two point perspective
>gradient sky
>no clouds
>simple shapes and colors
>empty landscape or parking lot or shit
>no people or solitary lone figure
I'm gonna... liminoooooool

Do you actually enjoy early 3d or see it simply as a limitation of hardware at the the time? I feel like it's kind of unique in the sense that it still required you to use your imagination to interpret what you are viewing, by the time of the DC or ps2 graphics became clear enough that anything can be displayed and fully understood immediately.

This whole game

>>9998659
I think the Amiga version is a better version

>>9999037
Different games. The MD version is more of a "remix" with new stages, whilst all the others are based off the Arcade original.

>>9998659
better than Nigger Kong Country for sure

>>9998659
the game peaks with its title

australiakun thread

>>10019065
This guy gets it ^

>>10019098
>>10019176
>>10019198
The reason it's allowed is because jannies are nintenyearoldtoddlers.

You think I'm being facetious or insecure or butthurt, but just watch. Mark my works. Some butthurt nintendo faggot is going to march his diabetes-riddled ass in here, see my post, flag it, and have some jannie clean it up, which he will, because he's a Nintenyearoldtoddler, despite NO ONE giving a shit about people mocking Sega fans, or Sony fans, hell that's practically a pass time. But god forbid you dismiss or insult the great babysitter in the sky that was Nintendo as their parents went to BBC parties in the 90's because they couldn't give a shit about their kids and they ended up thinking Mario was their daddy and Samus was the mommy.

Christ-al-fucking-mighty it gets tiring. That's one of the reasons this board is so fucking slow. ENDLESS. NINTENSHITE. Zelda, Zelda, Zelda, Zelda, Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AOnbhl906s

>>10019098
>why do random people talk about popular thing?
I don't know anon, I really don't know. It's a mystery.

>>10019702
Why is the N64 more popular than the PS1 when it sold much less?

>>9998658
>>10017547
PC Retro thread now exists! Begin posting there to discuss PC Gaming and Retro PC Games, maybe setup servers or discuss LAN parties!

>>9999451
Maybe because here where i live in Mexico, we didnt start seeing PC games sold in store up until the late 90s.

i was doing dungeon of sloth for years now

I just beat the game, it was ok, charlie carried it

>>9998637
i just used the speed up button in the emulator

>>10001416
still took like 2 hours for me like that

>>9998637
It's high art

If FFX had been developed by Culture Brain for the Super Famicom, it would have been better overall, but Wakka would have been a lot less likable, and that's a shame

>>9998604
Liberty City Stories isn't half bad. No clue how the PS2 version holds up

>>10000678
PS2 version kinda, sorta, almost has the III vibe but not really. PSP version is lacking it entirely.

ReLCS is well worth playing even in its unfinished state