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>>3226462

I don't recall, did Brutal Doom actually slow the player down? I now you can build up a lot of speed by abusing jumpkicks.

The really shitty thing about Brutal Doom was how there was one version where the gibs could damage the player and how shooting walls at close range hurt you. Not to mention the headshot system allowing you to kill the cyberdemon with like, 12 rockets

>>3226378
>anyone who hates Brutal Doom just hates how abrasive Sergeant Mark

I hated burtal doom long before I knew anything about its creator.

There is fucking nothing that is ever going to make me like melee finishers, iron sights, reloading and slowed movement in doom.

And that's ignoring the gigantic overbright explosions and black smoke clouds that aside from being framerate killers always force you to stop and wait for the smoke to clear.

The only thing Brutal Doom brings to the table is a good gore system. Virtually every gameplay change it makes is for the worse.

I honestly find it unplayable, especially in multiplayer.

>>3226386
Becuase other gameplay mods also mess with monsters to rebalance it. Also they generally not as much of a clusterfuck as brutal doom, which is filled with loads of useless shit that detracts from gameplay, for example, the helmet cracks on screen blinding you.

>>3226359
It's accurate to assume that anyone who hates Brutal Doom just hates how abrasive Sergeant Mark is. If you have a problem with Mark that's understandable but please try to grow a thicker skin. Just because he's "edgy" doesn't make him the devil you SJWs

>>3226341
Brutal Doom and its offshoots are mods for thirteen year old boys that might as well have been made by thirteen year old boys. Not really sure what you expected but if you're looking for good well-thought-out game design decisions you're at the wrong place.

Let's face it Brutal Doom is the best gameplay mod around and the only reason why Doom is still relevant.

Wow every doom mod aside from Brutal Doom is shit.

>>3147172
>"It's not aiming to be like the classic Doom. It's its own new thing."
How delusional can you get? Doom 3 was the one that was trying to be different and that's why I liked it. It wasn't great, but I like the fact that it was different but still followed the spirit of the franchise. Doom 4 seems like it was made by Doom 3 apologists who are trying to get back to the classic stuff but are failing horribly partially due to trying to mimic Brutal Doom. It's really pathetic.

Also, I love the fact that this chart exists.

So when is Term gonna make Demonsteele compatible with Brutal Doom?

It already is compatible with RUssian Overkill, may as well combine it with another gameplay overhaul.

Brutal Doom is the best version of Doom period.

Bit of a tourist here, but this thread is clearly full of old-school doom fans like myself so seems like the best place to ask:
What is your opinion on the brutal doom mod?

Personally I feel like it does something I never thought possible, and manages to improve on perfection. Elsewhere I've been shot down for this opinion because apparently most people seem to think it's just a gore mod, which is really disappointing. I can understand some people being sensitive about muh nostalgia and shitting all over anything different, but I feel like the mod captures the spirit and essence of doom perfectly, like it's what doom would have been if the tech had been possible at the time.

Opinions?

>>3055163
Yes. Brutal Doom is great for co-op and doesn't change the gameplay THAT much, despite what nostalgiafags will tell you.

They're so neckbearded they would notice if a single pellet from the shotgun did 1 point less damage just by playing.

>>3052838
b-b-but I like Brutal Doom senpai

>>3052838

whats wrong with brutal doom?

>Average brown Halo-esque shooter
>"NO ITS NOT WHY ARE TRYING TO SOIL THIS INSTANT CLASSIC?"
>"There is nothing wrong nor ever will there be wrong with DOOM 4 it is perfect."
>"Brutal Doom? Hogwash, your just jealous of DOOM 4 and that it spends more time at the gym than you."
>"Shush the retro forums wants nothing more that DOOM 4 talk."

>>3052678

If they really were just trying to copy Brutal DOOM exactly then why don't the weapons have reloading?

>Demon Rune turns you into demon
>Finishing moves
>"LOOK AT THE BLUD GUYS!"
My only problem with DOOM 4 is how they just looked at Brutal Doom and other mods like it, never looked anywhere near the original game or anywhere else for inspiration.
It's almost like they started making DOOM 4 when Brutal Doom was REALLY popular. Why not just "remake" the original DOOM style of "Regular guns, regular demons, shoot things, get keys"? Why does the game ALSO have to look like HALO and have space lasers for EVERY gun, wasn't the BFG and plasma gun enough space age shit?

>>2881653
That rapelay game was a classic, kkkk...
But guys, doomone is a good wad? And Brutal Doom?

>>2879728
That happens here all the time. Hell just go mention Brutal Doom in the Doom general and see how long you last before jani-kun gets upset and asks a mod to deal with you.

>>2870603
>Hurr everyone should be forced to be just like me!

I'm not even a brutal doom shitter that just sounds unfair and selfish.

Faggot.

>>2870598
GZDoom is what enables shit like Brutal Doom.
If GZDumb and Zandrondumb were never created, we wouldn't have to deal with all these awful gameplay mods, filters, HD Textures, and almost everyone would be forced to have a relatively pure and vanilla DOOM experience, the way it should be.

Please tell me how much you hate or don't hate Brutal Doom

thanks in advance

Any good 'modern' mapsets that aren't slaughterfests and gameplay conversion friendly? Like, cityscapes, facilities and such. No, not talking Brutal Doom. I've got Going Down, and I guess the starter pack beta in the OP counts, but it's surprisingly difficult to pinpoint things properly.

>>2757515
>every time I see you make a post

Why is it that you make up instances of when I post on this board? Please, post a link to the last time you specifically saw me post on here. I can wait.

>>2757517
>something else thats stigmatizing

What's stigmatizing about Brutal Doom? That mod kicks ass, especially with the Project Brutality addon.