/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4367897
WELL FUCKING DONE MARK
Can we just ban Brutal Doom from the community?

>>4340519
Show me how many DOOM mods there were in 2009 with limb removal and head shots and iron sights versus much less how many there were that won cacowards
Even if these things were in other games the fact is literal that these are original to the DOOM community in Brutal Doom
Getting upset at what a website does to the mod author is stupid
Hey how about we blame the mod author for 9/11 too?! Websites reported on that!!

>>4340283
>>4340341

Brutal doom is liked by noobies who don't appreciate the original 320x200 35fps no vertical aiming experience, and is largely responsible for an influx of such into the communities.

Also it """stole""" assets (which personally I think is BS, since I thought it was just understood in an open source game modding community that everything is shared, and putting assets together to create cohesive and good mods was just something everyone approved of from the get go, and that in any mod with tons of assets it was assumed that some of those were taken from earlier mods, seeing as DOOM itself is open source and the whole modding community resides on something someone else made, also he put credits in the credits page)

Also he's kind of an ass (which I think doesn't matter, I don't have to talk to him to play his games, and if he's a content creator he's worth more than 50 'cool chill' guys who don't produce anything anyway)

Also I hear the code is shit, and shitty to read, which does sometimes suck because of the frame drops


But still I haven't seen a mod like it with animations put to such effective use, it really makes the game 'come alive' in my opinion.
Doesn't really keep the original balance or pace of the game, but that's what you get with mods.

>>4340283
It isn't, but people get upset because there are potentially stolen textures and ideas in it.
Even the wad scene itself realizes this is a flimsy reason to hate something, plagiarizing is absolutely rife in the scene after all, but they still hate Brutal Doom anyway because it's more popular than any of the crap they'll ever put out, so they will always avoid actually answering this sort of question.

Is Brutal Doom really that bad

>>4332487
I agree, he is very talented and I only play Brutal Doom

>>4317101
Brutal doom. Surprising nobody; everybody proceeded to get violently ill and began vomiting at the mere mention.

>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
>Doom: https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/vr/image/1503/77/1503778360511.png

Why isn't Brutal Doom in this image? It's painful how conspicuous it is that it's missing and how clear it is that some people in this thread have a chip on their shoulder.

MSX, Accessories, D4T and Russian Overkill are all "normie" mods that make the bill and yet they don't even have COMMUNITY ENDORSEMENT (cacowards) or even GENERAL RECOGNITION (moddb MOTY).

Sgt_Mark is a true artist and fags who hate on brutal doom are neckbeards with small cocks

prove me wrong, you can't

>>4294178
What makes brutal doom so disliked here overall/

Your reminder that Brutal Doom exists.

>>4288006
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>>4287964
>interspersed with hunting down people daring to enjoy Brutal Doom. The reason is because they are prepubescent.

it's actually the complete opposite, but who am I to judge you if it helps you sleep at night.

one day you'll outgrow bd, just like you'll outgrow your teenage ways.

>>4287770
>I'm just fucking about to fucking play Doom, okay you fucks? And fuck yes I'm going to fucking play it using fucking Zdoom because it's fucking still the fucking best, fuck!

Some people ITT do actually communicate like this, interspersed with hunting down people daring to enjoy Brutal Doom. The reason is because they are prepubescent.

Why do you guys call anyone who posts Brutal Doom in this thread a troll?

It's probably one of the most popular and well-made mods ever made for the series, so a lot of people will mention it, what the fuck do you expect?

Why isn't Brutal Doom in the infographic?

Seems kind of conspicuous to leave out a mod that won Moddb and Cacoward awards and was addressed personally by John Romero along with having articles on it from a number of gaming publications.

>>4266878
>the loudest idiots in a group represent the whole group
HEY GUYS THE NEW BRUTAL DOOM IS GREAT HAHA RIP N TEAR xD FILTERS MAKE THE GAME LOOK HIGHER RES DUDE
How the fuck is this ridiculous fedora shit Doom related?

>>4266383
>broad sweeping generalisation not backed up by facts
Perhaps some people are over sensitive about other people liking the things they don't like?
I like Brutal DOOM, but it's just one of the many things I play.
I don't dwell or waste any time watching anybody playing something I'm not interested in, period.

>>4265882
How did Brutal Doom damage the community? Why do must 4/vr/ folk not like it?

>>4255168
Noob to Doom modding. Can someone explain to me why people here dislike Project Brutality/Brutal Doom? Genuinely curious and want opinions before downloading

Just got through with these games, first time playing.

Why is the level design so awful? Every level is some bland variation of a space station with pentagram decals every so often. When Doom 1 was released in 1993 there were already video games miles ahead in terms of level design. And no, level design doesn't mean how well you make the stairs or what dumb trick jump you have to do to reach a certain point in the level, it means aesthetic theme and design (e.g. jungle level vs desert level, how realistic and how much sense the rooms make e.g. Duke Nukem, Blood).

And people hold this up as a pinnacle of world-changing game design? Get real, there were first person dungeon crawlers released before Doom that were vastly more complex (e.g. Ultima Underworld).

The only redeeming thing I can see about the old series of games is the Brutal doom mod. I think it gives the games a well-needed sense of humour and over-the-topness that it originally lacked.

>>4251845
>LOL BRUTAL DOOM IS ENTRY LEVEL SHIT TIER GARBAGE AMMIRITE U GUISE!?! XDD

I'm starting to get sick of you faggots.

>>4239408
Basically a couple of bad moves here and there that ended up with him being banned from ZDoom's community, maybe alongside some other tidbits regarding the Doomworld and Zandronum communities too.

Dislike for Brutal Doom on the other hand is probably much stronger.

I found a thread on reddit with the most recent trailer for the new Brutal Doom update, somebody calls out SgtMarkIV for his bullshit in the comments, and then I'm pretty sure fucking Mark replied trying to pretend to not be somebody else, even call him "jelly", fucking pathetic