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>>5000996
>it kicked doom modding forward
>If you want to let that get in the way of the fact that he popularized doom modding
i'm not going to say that there ain't some real reaching bullshit among the bd criticism, but the whole "MARK LITERALLY SAVED DOOM MODDING!!!" is 100% more bullshit than anything else

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=doom%20mod,brutal%20doom,doom%202016,doom%20mods,doom%20wad

brutal doom barely even put a fucking drop in the bucket
the doom community is goddamn tiny, sgt. mark being king of the pond means nothing compared to the fucking ocean

>>5000947
>a ton of completely new people joined doom community sites in droves and began demanding all maps and mods be compatible with brutal doom, harassing content creators about it non-stop
>people joining the doom community and absolutely refusing to play anything that isn’t brutal doom, constantly saying how “brutal doom is the only way to play doom” or “brutal doom is what doom would have been like if they made it now” or even “brutal doom is better in every way than normal doom”
>It's Brutal Doom's fault people are retards

>>5000942
>There's literally nothing wrong with Brutal Doom
Is that so?
http://thathomestar.tumblr.com/post/138698210732/so-whats-the-story-behind-brutal-doom-i-know

>>5000117
There's literally nothing wrong with Brutal Doom. If you like it there's no point asking why people from here (since they're the only ones) are against it. Unless you wanna have a laugh at the reasons they invoke

>>4982169
they banned me for asking why do people form these threads hate brutal doom

why does /vr/ hate brutal doom?

=== NEWS ===
[07-31]GZDoom 3.5.0 Released:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61482

[07-31]2018 Quake award winners announced
http://www.quakeawards.com/2018-award-winners/

[07-29]Addons for Samsara
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=61431

[07-25] Brutal Doom adds in a flamethrower for whatever reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdCKx7Dd7I&ab_channel=SGtMarkIV [Embed]

[07-25] Colorful Hell updates to 0.942
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1065240#p1065240

[07-23] Public release of Clusterfuck, a Complex Doom add-on
https://mega.nz/#F!GdsVnKyY!tBahBv35NujhwVpUxAkpDQ

[07-23] Fan-made PBR pack released for Doom 64 Retribution, also compatible with Consolation Prize counterpart
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=61399

[07-19] Redneck Rampage source port in RedneckGDX is now in early development
https://youtu.be/O3CtVzcr_Pg [Embed]

[07-19] Anon wants some DarkXL things in news post
http://xlengine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1062&sid=f969982a628c5402743c2964c3390605
https://github.com/luciusDXL/XL-Engine
https://www.gamepressure.com/download.asp?ID=62915

[07-17] Ion Maiden to have a multiplayer beta coming later this year, may lead to proper EDuke32 multi as well
http://www.ionmaiden.com/

[07-12] BloodGDX Multiplayer update released
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/bloodgdx-blood-port-to-javas-libgdx-framework-with-opengl-support-now-supports-classic-multiplayer/

[07-14] Doom 64 for Doom 2 released, a vanilla reimagining of D64 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92901-doom-64-for-doom-ii-released/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f2vBW9GMZU [Embed]

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>>4925356
http://thathomestar.tumblr.com/post/138698210732/so-whats-the-story-behind-brutal-doom-i-know
E V E R Y T H I N G

>>4924702
What's wrong with Brutal Doom?

>>4924682
brutal doom :)

can anyone help me with this issue? I'll post my computer specs in the reply.

Also what do you guys think of the latest version of Brutal Doom (v21)

What's everyone's hate boner for Brutal Doom about?

STILL haven't seen any specific examples of how Brutal Doom is shit / bad / terrible / whatever you wanna call it.
Too edgy for you? Too mainstream? Was it just mentioned too much and you guys got sick of it? What is it?

>>4808561
It's not shitposting. When Doom 1 came out it felt like a slow-paced horror game. Only later when source ports came out people started using autorun feature, WSAD movement and mouse. Maybe DOS Doom versions didn't look horror enough, but this was because of graphic limitations and PSXDoom that was released in 95 already looked how it was meant to be - like horror. Later released games - Doom 64 and Doom 3 also were horror games.

Whe whole idea of Doom was twisted by modders who made popular mods like Brutal Doom. Bethesda wanted to make more money so they made Doom 4 a fast-paced game that has nothing to do with Doom.

>>4795896
>>4795901
>>4795907
Oh no, it got too popular (no doubt thanks to brutal doom) so now we must hate it, even though this general was sucking its dick endlessly back then.

do not respond to brutal doom posts

ALL TALK OF BRUTAL DOOM IS SHITPOSTING
ALL TALK OF BRUTAL DOOM IS SHITPOSTING
ALL TALK OF BRUTAL DOOM IS SHITPOSTING

DO NOT RESPOND TO BRUTAL DOOM POSTS
DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE BRUTAL DOOM POSTS
REPORT AND IGNORE ALL BRUTAL DOOM POSTS

report and ignore any mention of brutal doom

reminder that any discussion of brutal doom is shitposting

This thread went roughly 110 posts without talking about Brutal Doom. It seems that talking about Ketchup and mods that have their anti-brutal doom features is what brought it up, however the slow rising tension with the thread began with that faggot constantly showcasing his shitty 3D, HD, doom setup or whatever you want to call it. Wonder how long the next thread will last...

>>4789434
wait what the fuck is wrong with brutal doom?

>>4789434
1st timer on /VR here

Brutal Doom is actually pretty good,you can aim up and down and shit,its well better than the original.

>>4788003
Consensus is, to my understanding:
Brutal Doom is a fun mod, but it changes too much from vanilla Doom. This is a problem because many people play ONLY Brutal Doom and refuse to play anything else.
Similarly, BD is pretty glitchy mess of spaghetti code that doesn't play well with other mods or mapsets.

At the same time, worst part of Brutal Doom is SGT Mark IV - a weirdo and a creep. Notably he:
- told a suicidal person to kill themselves with instructions
- stole content from other people without even crediting them
- used pictures of real gore in Brutal Doom - and as cherry on top he didn't even credit the photographers!
- also he is racist, sexist, homophobic, you name it.
- he responds terribly to criticism calling everyone who critizes him noob or a hater
- last but not least, he's a creepy weirdo. I saw him mention in a thread once that after adding a female player sprite to Brutal Doom, he considered letting Baron of Hell rape the female Doomguy (Doomgirl?) as a fatality.

Mark is easily the worst thing about BD, and he is infinitely hateable.

>>4741347
No level design whatsoever, they took the various MP arena maps they had scrapped over the years and just spliced them together with shoddily put together corridor links (they also flat out openly admit to this in the documentary so you can't refute this).
Pinata "demons", need I say more?
Demons look like they're made of clay.
Only one color palette: Orange
Feels like a mix between Halo, Quake 3 and Brutal Doom, feels nothing like Doom 1 or 2, especially 1.
Gorillion popups with cluttered UI unless you go out of your way to turn off EVERYTHING and even then the game suffers because it's literally built around some of those things (damage indicators and glowing monsters for CINEMATIC TAKEDOWNS)
CoD perks in fucking singleplayer
Parkour, IN FUCKING DOOM

I know you're an easily impressed Gen Z Halo baby, but that game isn't Doom. It's Halo, it's Quake and it's Brutal Doom, but it sure as fucking hell isn't Doom 1/2/64.