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explain the beef with brutal doom.

>>5264713
Why does brutal doom cause the ultimate chimpout?

>>5264698
>brutal doom
>phones
>phoneposting
Run boy. Run like mad. You unwittingly stepped on a hornet's nest. People will eat you alive for having mentioned that

Here comes this fucking guy spewing this fucking post,but Is there a reason that some people dislike brutal doom other then "It ruined doom 4"?I personally like It a lot, but I see a lot of people talking shit about it here and there over 4chan and some modder communities,but never got to know why.

>>5246872
I never hated Brutal Doom. Just its fanbase. And maybe its creator, because from what I heard, he got arrogant.

>>5246837
Despite the fact that the people who praise nudoom hate on Brutal Doom because of said nostalgia goggles?

brutal doom is unironically better than the vanilla game, only nostalgic redditors disagree

> doom 4 bad
> brutal doom good
> other modders bad
i want marky and his toddler goons to leave

>>5232195
I don't even like Brutal Doom but damn, the people who try to start shit every time it's mentioned are even more annoying

>>5232190
>>tfw just discovered Brutal Doom
yikes.

>>5208932
If I answer you're going to tell me brutal doom didn't invent it, but you'll ignore that doesn't matter when they said they specifically copied from brutal doom.

Like iron sights, rip and tear, alternate weapon fires, jumping, auto sprinting movement, the way every encounter turns into an arena where enemies pour in and you keep shooting, tons of pointless weapons when you stick to shotgun and rifle/minigun.

If you actually play doom 2016 and brutal doom the parallels are painful.

>>5208916
>they didn't copy it if brutal doom copied it from other stuff
>just because they said they only played brutal doom doesn't mean they copied that, they actually meant this obscure mod that was dramatically overshadowed by brutal doom

Kay

>>5208894
Didn't they literally say they were using brutal doom as their frame of reference?

>>5208894
> Brutal Doom is not the true inspiration for literally any mechanics in the new doom games.

But it's basically a remake of brutal doom.

>>5129246
Without modding support nobody would give a shit about Doom. This thread exists only because Doom is opensource and there's a great source port that supports modern features GZDoom for which is created many great mods like Brutal Doom by SergeantMarkIV or Doom Remake 4 by vasyan777.

>>5129221
But Brutal Doom has a legit pixelated original Doom art. Mark has made Doom great again. All haters just envy him because nobody gives a shit about their shit noname mods.

>>5117120
Not just HD-obsessed. Any modder is vasyan. SergeantMarkIV = vasyan. Brutal Doom = vasyanstvo.

All I want to do is play Brutal Doom Black Edition, I've updated to the newest gzdoom and have removed all unnecessary add-ons as well multiple times? Help pls, it seems others on the BDBE mod page have this problem, but none have been answered.

>>5050906
Who the fuck are you to tell me I suck? What do you know of mapping you buttfucking faggot. First off, my maps are JUST the right size and anybody who thinks they're too big are poorfags with tiny hard drives.

My shit isn't just 'casual interest' either, fuckface. Its better than Brutal Doom and whatever else your boyfriend Sargent Mark or whatever made. Run back and open your butt to him before talking about my shit again.

Also fuck ZScript. Shits outdated like your moms vag. I only deal with the newest shit like your sister.

If I wanted advice from an ass, I'd fuckin fart.

You disappointed your family.
You disappointed your boyfriends.
You disappointed everybody you ever met.
Even the people who glance at you know what a walking pile of shit you are.

Get salty fuckboi

>>5050950
It's still second after Brutal Doom. There's no any other mod that is as popular as Brutal Doom.

>>5001049
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F01sc64,brutal%20doom,%2Fm%2F01y3lh
all the way back to 2004, in 2010 there wasn't even a poke in overall activity

i can do this all day, bro
like i said, i ain't gonna pretend there ain't some reaching-ass bullshit among the bd criticism
but the whole "brutal doom literally saved doom" is 100% made-up bullshit

>>5001035
>so everyone treated it as if it was an official game, because the series was kinda dead then
in 2010? citation really fucking needed

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F01sc64,brutal%20doom,%2Fm%2F01y3lh
nigga
even doom 3, released in 2004, the most disliked doom game, the one everyone considers the black sheep of the franchise, is more relevant than brutal doom in 2013-2018

>>5001021
>Brutal Doom spawned its own subculture compared to a lot of other mods, that there is an essential difference between liking Doom mods and liking this one specific mod
you know what else did?
8-bit deathmatch, which literally split zandronum in half
and which has more a fucking infinite more submods than brutal doom does

>>5001013
Brutal Doom spawned its own subculture compared to a lot of other mods, that there is an essential difference between liking Doom mods and liking this one specific mod
This also comes from some places, such as Reddit and Wikia, treating the mod as if it were an official game or an important part of Doom, by mentioning it in official Doom related areas or giving it its own category