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9699401 No.9699401 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

To all you male players out there I have one damn question.

Is it impossible for you to keep your mind out of the fucking gutter at the table?

It's bad enough that because I'm not 200 pounds overweight that I'll get hit on at least once by every virgin in a group but that's come to be expected and I've gotten over that. But now I've finally got fed up. I've had over the past few games had every male at the last group in character hit on my character at least once and keep up attempts, get tired of it and go to another group and have the same fucking thing happen. Is it really impossible for you chuckle fucks to not keep this shit out of the game or do I have to play a dude to avoid the pathetic advances by neckbeards?

>> No.9699410

Im sorry could you repeat that I was lsot in your tits

>> No.9699411

You knew what you were signing up for.

>> No.9699416
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>>9699401
Tits or GTFO

>> No.9699418

You have to just not be a girl around these people. Sorry to hear, OP.

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9699425

Troll 2: Troll Harder.

>> No.9699426
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9699426

Why not play a different game with a different target audience?

>> No.9699436

>>9699401
It's really not our fault that no one respectable will hang out with you.

>> No.9699444

>>9699401
>>9699410
>Im sorry could you repeat that I was lsot in your tits
We men find these jokes hilarious, especially when someone is utterly disgusted by 'em.

>> No.9699448
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9699448

Our hobby attracts manchildren by the bucketload.

Find a more mature group or a mixed gender group, they might be one and the same.

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9699451

Yes, it is.
And yes, you do.
Protip: Don't make a duke character. They'll just get hornier.

>> No.9699453

Dude, neckbeards. No lives. No female contact. Sexually starved.

You don't fault a man dieing of thirst from looking at that freshwater lake over there longingly.

>> No.9699468

Delicious copypasta.

>> No.9699469

>>9699401
I'd hit on you even if you were 200 pounds overweight.
And if you weren't a woman.
And if you weren't straight.
And if you weren't actually there.

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9699480

I'm not sure what the OP started this thread for, but I think the new topic should be IMAGINATION

>> No.9699482

>>9699451

And by "duke", I mean "dyke".
Stupid auto-correct...

>> No.9699487

Not sure if troll?

Nevertheless, if you don't want to play a male character, play a female with a massive temper. Beat the shit out of other characters that hit on you.

Problem solved.

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>>9699480

>> No.9699496
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>> No.9699502

See, what's interesting is that their escapism allows them to do things they wouldn't do in real life. They wouldn't dare ask a girl out in real life for fear of rejection, so they vent their frustration--frustration brought on themselves by their lack of self-confidence and other negative traits--by hitting on your character. Of course, this is just giving them the benefit of a doubt, and they need to stop being morons regardless.

Hormones: We haz them.

>> No.9699504

Play a male character?

Preferably, one is very homo, but is the domineering type.

Like, fireball on slaves nuts domineering. Write extensive, horrible things to be done to male genitalia.

If they keep it up, give them a pity-fuck or at least a blowjob for being that desperate.

>> No.9699507

tits or gtfo

>> No.9699517

>>9699487
lol, that's not a half bad idea actually

>> No.9699519
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>>9699480

IMAGINATION FUCK YEAH!
WE CAN GO ANYWHERE, BE ANYONE, AND RAPE ANYONE WE WANT!

>> No.9699524
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IMAAAAGINATION

>> No.9699533

Itt OP is 199 pounds overweight.

>> No.9699539

Op, if you're not a troll, just find a game that a 50/50 (or close enough) ratio of men and women, specially couples, or make one yourself! we fa/tg/irls are known for getting shit done

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IMAAAAGINATION

>> No.9699544
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>>9699487
>Implying tsunderes aren't a fetish.

>> No.9699545

>>9699504
>give them a pity-fuck or at least a blowjob
Then they'd come back for more, problem x2

>> No.9699554

>>Implying sex isn't one of mankind's most noble, and high-minded pursuits.

>> No.9699561

>>9699544
That is not tsundere, there is no dere.

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Ahh yes, 'Imagination'

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>>9699401

>> No.9699570

>>9699544
>Implying gay anime faggotry isn't shit.

>> No.9699572

>>9699554

Think of the species!
For Humanity!

>> No.9699587

Maybe you arent setting a strong enough precedence. Maybe flirt back with them ingame then rob their character of all their stuff or something. Most guys will pursue what they believe is obtainable. But yes, it is borderline impossible to keep my mind outta the gutter. I have a whole section of my subconscious preset to flirt with any girl I see as fun.

>> No.9699590

Cool Story Bro

>> No.9699592

>>9699453
>You don't fault a man dieing of thirst from looking at that freshwater lake over there longingly.
Sorry, not getting laid is not a serious fucking problem, and it is NOT an excuse for sexual harassment.

I worked at a gay club for a year. Sexual harassment is... not fun.

>> No.9699599

>>9699570
> implying gaming groups aren't at least 50% weeaboo

>> No.9699607

>>9699411
>You knew what you were signing up for.
Ah, yes, the old "this hobby has a really shitty aspect, but we don't have to change it because change is bad."

>> No.9699614

>>9699592

There's a story there.

>> No.9699620

>>9699592
It's not sexual harassment if a man is on the getting end. Learn your court terms.

>> No.9699623

>>9699545
You are correct. What will help with the problem is hooking them up with your friends.

Find the most insecure, desperate female acquaintances that you have and hook them up with the dudes in your group who desperately need some female contact.

>> No.9699631

>>9699401
>>9699401

I suggest doing what the female regulars in my old groups did. Be either mutant-hideous or screechingly annoying.

>> No.9699644

>>9699614
There's a billion stories there. It wasn't a particularly great place, but it did pay well. Suffice it to say, I got a small slice of what the average woman goes through on a daily basis, and it really, really sucked.

>>9699620
Yes, it is. Shut the fuck up. I know, because I got a restraining order against someone. For sexual harassment.

>> No.9699647

Dont worry, OP. I coldy ignore and avoid women out of an abject fear of intimacy. Keep my sobbing, tearful masturbation to myself. You'll have no problems in my group.

>> No.9699650

>>9699623
Somehow, the idea of two extremely neurotic people feeding off each other doesn't sound like much of an improvement...

>> No.9699652

>>9699607
My gaming group is full of crass, loud-mouthed, arrogant assholes that tell crude jokes. One guy brings in his girlfriend. You know what changed? Nothing.

Fuck changing because other people will get offended. Act like you normally would around your bros. Get the fuck out if you can't handle it.

>> No.9699675

>>9699652
>fuck changing. Sexually harassing people is OK, because it's not a problem for ME! God, I love my privilege.

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>>9699675
>Five of us should change because we added one person!

>> No.9699704

>>9699675
Woman detected.

>> No.9699711

>>9699675

Depends, if a crude joke is said within earshot of a woman, but isn't targeted at her, is that harassment?

If yes, then Fuck You.

>> No.9699738

>>9699650
Damaged goods are the only thing that can stand relationships with damaged goods. While the typical nerd is not the raped by his stepfather damaged they practically have they social and emotional symptoms of it. It's not a healthy relationship by any means but it's the only real one they'll POSSIBLY get without decades of therapy.

>> No.9699742

Well if the company she keeps is any indicator she's probably just as annoying in other ways
>>9699607
>>9699675
Or maybe you should step back and realize you're talking about a hobby in a basement as if you're attempting political reform
Or god forbid find a new group instead of changing one you find to suite yourself

>> No.9699759

>>9699711
"HURR HURR WOMEN ARE WHORES ONLY GOOD FOR FUCKING HURR HURR"
".. That's fucking off-"
"SHUT THE FUCK UP WE WEREN'T SPECIFIALY TALKING ABOUT YOU YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN!"

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My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day playing stupid ass games. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun pretending to be other people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures in FATAL.

Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off furries”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It’s me and OP.

>> No.9699769

ironically when i played 40k with my thousand sons the only female gamer in our groiup would play slaanesh and then go about dedicating every action to raping my general and describing it vividly. it was sort of hot but very creepy

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9699771

You are now aware that the OP is, in fact, a male.

You are also aware that OP is a terrible troll.

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>>9699742

I believe you mean "suit", not "suite".

>> No.9699786

>>9699620
What EO classes have you been to? Any unwanted sexual advances, regardless of what gender is on either end, is sexual harassment.

>> No.9699798

If the people at your table do really treat females as shit, you reap what you sow.

>> No.9699800

>>9699777
Naw man, it's like a metaphor for white privilege
But yeah, my bad

>> No.9699801

>>9699592
>implying that the female can't leave at any point forever if she so chooses.

>> No.9699810

>>9699704
That sort of proves the fucking point you moron.

>> No.9699813

>>9699759

You have every right to complain.
They have every right to ignore you.
You have every right to stop associating with fucktards.

>> No.9699820

>>9699786
What courts have you been to? You'll never convince a jury that the guy didn't want it unless he was straight, but if he's in a fucking gay bar that's not going to fly.

>> No.9699843

>>9699810
Why do these self-righteous women come onto /tg/ expecting anything except the obvious?

>> No.9699897

>>9699820
>implying a civil sexual harassment case would use a jury

>> No.9699901
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>>9699820
If you're not a troll, please stop talking, because you're coming across as an idiot.

>> No.9699933

>>9699401
>silly boys stop hitting on me just because im a gamer girl tee hee

>> No.9699934

>>9699401
Your not supposed to game in the kitchen.

>> No.9699944

>>9699401

troll easy to spot

>> No.9699969

IMPLYING THAT WOMEN HAVE NO SEXUAL DESIRES.

>> No.9699972

>>9699934
It's not a terrible choice. The table and food is right there

>> No.9699975

>>9699820
That's according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Sexual harassment is not in intent but in what it is perceived to be.

>> No.9700016

Just get over it. We're not all like that, only the virgins. If you really have an issue with those people, just do what you're doing. Leave and keep trying. Eventually you'll get to the people who want to play the goddamn game.

>> No.9700024

>>9699975
>Sexual harassment is not in intent but in what it is perceived to be.
Wow that's fucking broad, hope no one overacts to me begin friendly.

>> No.9700045

>>9700024
If you even have to consider whether your actions are crossing the line, they are. (At least in court.)

Damn right it's broad.

>> No.9700065

>>9700045

And wait until you get into the false accusations; since it's a crime that must only be perceived by the victim, the victim can say whatever they want and it's legit testimony.

Fun times.

>> No.9700092

>>9700065
Which is where you bring in counter witnesses and destroy the credibility of the accuser.

>> No.9700104

Jesus /tg/ this is a fucking troll thread and you know it.

>> No.9700112

OP is upset because fat anti social virgins dont know how to not be creepy losers around girls.
Next she will be bitching that sharks eat fish

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>>9700092
Oh, to be young and naive again.

>> No.9700134

>>9700112
I find that understandable, roneryscum is terribly annoying after a while.

>> No.9700138

>>9700112
At least our troll isn't suggesting the forced sterilization of hopeless neckbeards...not that it would make a difference.

>> No.9700146

>>9699401

QQ more. Not every guy is a sexually orientated asshole. I hate it when girls make it out they we are only interested in sex.
Look for decent guys. Or maybe that's the problem? Maybe decent guys aren't interested in you?

>> No.9700184

>>9700146
>I hate it when girls make it out they we are only interested in sex.
If a guy isn't interested in sex there is something psychologically wrong with him. It's how our brain is set up.

>> No.9700194

>>9700024
EO complains, specifically sexual harassment, are made to be broad, and that is one that was mentioned as an example in the classes. Its considered good practice to talk to the person about their behavior before reporting it up the chain of command though.
Civilian courts have similar rules, but theirs are more lax.

>> No.9700217

I play a female character.

If I want to think about tits, I'll think about her's thank you very much.

I'll also wait to get home to do it in order to maximize her chances of survival.

BUT BITCH YOU SHALL NOT TAKE AWAY THE SEX JOKES!!! I'm willing to avoid sex jokes about your character, but if I see a drow priestess and I'm playing something with a charisma higher than 14, I'm making an asinine remark just to piss her off.

>> No.9700221

It is, because in-character it makes sense.

Much like sailors at sea for extended periods of time, adventurers are going to get horny. Unlike sailors, adventurers aren't going to be spending their money on booze and whores when they show up in town, because neither of those things can be a permanent addition to their character sheet. They will therefore see anything female as fair game for hitting on, in the hopes of getting free pussy and thus balancing their horniness against their stinginess.

>> No.9700222

>>9700184
Not solely interested in sex!=Not interested in sex. Many smar/tg/uys aren't *that* one-dimensional...

>> No.9700233

>>9700184
I cordially suggest you read that post again. Anon was subtly calling OP a whore.

>> No.9700266

>>9700113
>oh, to be herp and derp again

>> No.9700300

Men are pigs, women are bitches.

>> No.9700316

>>9700184
You talking about the study that said men think about sex at least once every 10 seconds or something? As adolescents, yes, but as you get a little older you kinda grow out of that little by little.

>> No.9700319

>>9700217
>If I want to think about tits, I'll think about her's thank you very much.
Which is almost more creepy.

>> No.9700323

>>9700300
>Men are pigs, women are bitches, the children are fucked up hybrids.

Fix't.

>> No.9700328

Everyone in this thread is wrong, no one is right.

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>>9700328
Thanks for the insight.

>> No.9700376

>>9700221
If we were going by real wold reasoning there would be little if any adventures, the economy would be fucked over by wizards, and there would be no atheists.

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>> No.9700429

Men were made for impregnating women. Women were made for shitting out babies.

Can't fault a man for attempting to follow his natural instincts. If you want less attention OP, just stop washing for a week. Or better yet, just accept that it'll always be this way even if a man doesn't come out and hit on you, he's already thinking about it.

>> No.9700445

>>9700429
>implying there's no such thing as civilization

>> No.9700455

>>9700445
>Implying civilization is anything but a thin veneer of niceties over apes who would just as soon crack your skull for the tasty bits inside

>> No.9700479

>implying this thread wasn't made for attention whoring

>> No.9700493

>>9700455
>implying the thin veneer doesn't make a huge difference as long as it's there

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>Trolling so obvious it's like saying thermite lit on your crotch hurts.

>98 posts and 20 image replies

>My face

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>>9700495
>Implying posting in an obvious troll thread never has any value whatosever

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>>9700530
>Implying CIRNO HIJACK, LOL

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>>9700542

I love the flawless logic of that picture. It's kind of like this one.

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>> No.9700572

>>9700542
Those things work by saying one thing that makes sense or is true than a related thing that isn't. When both are true/make sense it fails.

>> No.9700616

>>9700493
>implying that thin veneer lasts more than about ten seconds without the threat of violence against anybody who breaks the rules

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-4 STREINNNGGGGHHHHTTTTT

But seruushly, play a dwarf female. Describe in vivid detail the various fungal infections she gots in the Underdark and the squareness of her jaw.

Or are you making wit the female paladins? I'm sorry, but in that case players are REQUIRED to sexually harass your char.

Even if you a dewd, I was surprised to learn. D:

Actually, whenever stupid sex stuff starts going down I do something like this:
Wizard summons succubus
They party hard
char X awakens without a kidney
The Quest for the missing kidney begins!

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Nowhere near enough sage in this bitch

>> No.9700656 [DELETED] 

>>9699399
h T t p : / / 8 8 . 8 0 . 2 1 . 1 2 / i s f a r s u p E r i o R T o T H i s p I E C e O F c R a P 4 c h A N I S f o R U g l y l O s E R T r o l L s o n l y

>> No.9700677

OP. You do realize that you ARE posting on /tg/ right?

>> No.9700733

OP

First off, I'm going to assume that you're not just a guy throwing that post out to incite a storm, because, yeah, there are those sort around here that will post something like this just to get people flaming each other.

Okay, assuming that you're a female just looking to game because you like gaming. First thing I'd suggest is this, talk to the DM. Tell him or her that you're tired of this shit and you'd like them to help step in and make this stop.

Most DM's are the alphas of the group, meaning they're the ones with the forceful enough personality to BE a DM in the first place. This means that they're also most likely the person that will want to step in and tell the others to stop being cocks.

So, talk to him (or her) and just say, "you know, last game I was really unhappy. All the guys keep fucking hitting on me and I'm not liking it." At this point if he's half a man he'll offer to talk to them for you. Pause a minute, as if you're thinking about the offer and just say "I'd really appreciate it, however I don't want to piss people off either by having you just lay down the law."

Work with him to help him come up with a good way for him to address the issue with the guys in the group.

Next game, have him invite all the males an hour early or show up late or something so that he can talk to them privately and resolve the issue.

DM's aren't there just to run the game, they're there to handle interpersonal problems too.

If this doesn't fix it, I'd suggest finding a more mature group, or starting your own. Believe it or not a lot of guys that don't look at all geekish have played rpgs in the past and enjoyed it. Bunch of guys in my old military unit loved playing it, we also didn't look at all like the stereo typical neckbeards. We were fit, surfed, scuba'ed, and clubbed on the weekend, but we'd also have friday night all nighters playing 2nd edition AD&D in the barracks dayroom from 4pm till daybreak.

>> No.9700801

Thanks guys, I think we all learned a lot in this thread.

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"Reverse" sexism, (If there is such a thing) is not cool. If you're being serious, OP then you're generalizing all men, and that's not fair and disgusting. If you're trolling, (Which is more likely), you should know you're not funny. /tg/ likes there women like they like their pancakes... Hot, sticky, stacked and in good taste. FUCK YOU, you're just a whore, it seems.
Pic related; I'd rather fuck a chick that was two hundred pounds overweight. Now where was I? Oh yeah, pass the dicebag...

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>>9700733
That was a well reasoned and cogent protocol for dealing with this problem, sir white knight.

I reject it completely.

[Ad hominem attack]

>> No.9700907

>>9700572
>LOL I missed the point!

>> No.9700909

>>9700640
>Or are you making wit the female paladins? I'm sorry, but in that case players are REQUIRED to sexually harass your char.
This "joking" attitude is not helpful. Stop it.

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>>9699399
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>> No.9700951

Play a game with a bunch of gay guys or something or bi guys who prefer men. or find a group that has actual maturity don't complain how all men just want to hit on you because your so fucking pretty.

>> No.9700961

I resent this a little bit op. My gm is a not overweight female and I do not hit on her.

And the only vaguely sexual remarks I've made to her involve getting my friend's character a third arm crafted onto his genitals.

>> No.9701077

>>9700875
>If you're being serious, OP then you're generalizing all men, and that's not fair and disgusting.

>Girl who constantly gets sexually harassed by guys complains that guys sexually harass her
>Accuse her of sexism!
If girls were sexually harassing her, she'd be complaining about that. That isn't what happens.

>> No.9701100

bitching to horny neckbeards about horny neckbeards...seemed like a productive idea?

This is why cumdumpsters need to gb2kitchen

>> No.9701130
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>>9700961
>involve getting my friend's character a third arm crafted onto his genitals.
>a third arm
>crafted onto his genitals
>onto his genitals

What the everloving fuck?

>> No.9701131

Hey bitch. Fuck you. Sage for grouping every man together in the same group.

Also, lose some damn weight you fucking cow.

>> No.9701145

>>9699401
Solution: Stop playing with virgins. It's really that simple.

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>>9700909
ok

So it comes down to this: how to portray a graceful, empowered woman amongst greasy lonely nerds. Ha.

It cannot be done! Abandon all hope! Nothing but your doom awaits ye!

Unless.... no. No, it cannot be done. Tary not here, for there is naught but fear and shadow in these halls, and the glimmer of hope ye see is but the final spark of a crushed dream... the demons are too powerful!

Begone! Before I slay you as well!

>> No.9701155

>>9701145
No, it's not. Plenty of nonvirgin geeks act this way.

>> No.9701163

>>9701130

Yeah he needs it to throw bombs.

>> No.9701173

>>9701163
That isn't helping your case.

>> No.9701180

>>9700961

>getting my friend's character a third arm crafted onto his genitals.

wtf is the DC for something like that?!

>> No.9701207

>>9701173

Well see, my character got two extra arms, so his felt left out and decided to get a third one somewhere where people won't see it so he can surprise them with bombs.

>> No.9701210

>>9701163


:D:D rofl

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>>9701163
This is obligatory.

>> No.9701229

>>9701207
But on his junk, man!

>> No.9701263

>>9701229

Well where would you put it?

>> No.9701290

>>9701263
...good point

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>>9701217
>This is obviously no good in combat, but devastating in bed.

>> No.9701321

rolled 40 = 40

Honestly, find a group with a gay guy in it. make friends with the homo outside of the game sessions. for every time someone hits on you, have him hit on one of them.

Hell, if I see someone doing that to the new chick, I'll start flirting with the guy doing it.

I love pissing off homophobic neckbeards.

>> No.9701322

>>9701217
This game was like an enjoyable version of FATAL.

>> No.9701356

>>9701321
i have only done this over the internet but it is definitely the correct thing to do

>> No.9701374

>>9701356
Works right until you hit the "Everything that moves" neckbeard.

>> No.9701384

>>9701374
Someone say my name?

>> No.9701400

OP, I'll apologize when you explain why feminists have no sense of PR management.

>> No.9701404

>>9701384

brad? that you?

>> No.9701435

>>9701400
It's not that feminists have bad PR management, it's that people like to make shit up about feminists and pass it off as fact.

>> No.9701471

rolled 74 = 74

>>9701374
that is when the knuckle dusters come out.


or the ky.

depends on the night.

>> No.9701535

Methinks the lady dost protest too much.

Srsly, if your group bothers you that much, find a new group.

>> No.9701575

>>9701435
Its more the whole "you can't debate or question anything ever else you are a misogynist" perspective, considering diehard xians consider their beliefs less open to discussion and debate than feminists do.

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>>9701435
There's nothing to make up. They actually believe in the equality and equivalence of men and women.

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>>9701435
>Adjusts helm of Evil and smiles smugly

Well, satisfying some momentary urge, and then discarding the shucked "fruit" is as valid a criticism for women as it is for men.

The worth of human life is as far from "fact" as it's possible to be. Whether or not they have some sort of gender is just one more wrinkle in the dirty dish cloth that is humanity.

How many women have an article of clothing they don't need made by indentured child labor? More than a few, I'd imagine.

Only when you realism the futility of feminism and goody-goody secular humanism can you begin to change the world!

Only after you learn to hate will you be strong!

>> No.9701632

>>9701575
>Its more the whole "you can't debate or question anything ever else you are a misogynist" perspective
There is no such perspective. What you're confusing is "using the same tired old arguments used by misogynists to derail conversations", which isn't genrally welcome in feminist spaces, just because they get tired of explaining basic shit to yet another guy who doesn't actually care or want to hear it.

It's like how criticizing 4E is okay, but going 4E = WoW isn't.

>> No.9701646

Troll

>> No.9701650

>>9701435
So explain why so many feminist websites and organizations try to be "in-your-face"? It's only reinforcing the stereotype.

>> No.9701662

>>9701632
Anyone who actually needs to twist feminist talking points isn't a real misogynist.

>> No.9701678

I'm a femanon, and I hit on other player's characters all the time, regardless of whether or not I'm playing a male or female or whatever. I have had people ask me politely not to, and then I lay off. If you make it clear that it's not cool with you, and they don't stop, then that's asinine. If you haven't made it clear, then you're being a bitch. Also, you're probably a troll, as evinced by the image you chose to use on what is generally assumed to be a male-dominated board.

>> No.9701721

>>9701678
Sage only works in the lower-case. Just sayin', future reference.

>> No.9701730

>>9701650
>So explain why so many feminist websites and organizations try to be "in-your-face"?
Like what? Like who? How many feminist websites do you read to make that statement, anyway?

>It's only reinforcing the stereotype.
Stereotypes will get assigned no matter what. If they're quiet and demure they're easy to ignore and they get blamed for not being vocal enough. If they're loud and assertive then they're bitches. It's like women in many workplace environments--damned if you do, damned if you don't.

>> No.9701737

>>9701678
>I'm a femanon
Sure you are, man. Sure you are.

>> No.9701747

>>9701650
>It's only reinforcing the stereotype.
"The stereotype" is just a convenient way to silence viewpoints you don't want to hear.

>> No.9701754

Personally, if OP rolled a male character, I don't think I'd let that stop me.

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>>9701730
Don't blame men, blame capitalist society for forcing women into the workplace in the first place, destroying traditional values and creating conflict between sexes when there should be none.

>> No.9701765

>>9701762
0/10 too blatant

>> No.9701796

this again?

>> No.9701803

>>9701762
>implying women didn't WANT to be in the workplace

>> No.9701805

>>9699401
Stop playing with a bunch of neckbeards, obviously you're the problem not them. Pick your group wisely, there's plenty of groups that won't care if you're female.

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>>9701678
Yes... yes... that's what I've been trying to say! Use the tools of the enemy against him. Against me! Strike me down!

STRIKE ME DOWN AND TAKE MY PLACE!

Or maybe you misinterpret guy locker room jokes for sexual come ons? idk

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>165 posts and 38 image replies omitted

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>>9701765
>>9701803
>implying anyone really WANTS to be in the modern workplace

Riveting tale, chaps.

>> No.9701842

>>9701827

>fuck the establishment, am I right, brah?

>> No.9701849

>>9701662
Wow, it's great to know that you can't find any Truly Scottish Feminists/Misogynists!

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>>9701842
I do believe they are the ones doing the fucking, sorry.

>> No.9701889

>>9701849
Scottish...?

>> No.9701907

Avast me hearties, this be a shitty troll thread.

>> No.9701920

SUCCESSFUL TROLL IS SUCCESSFUL.

>> No.9701921

>>9701882
Not cool. You got that saved on your HD?

Not cool at all.

>> No.9701948

>>9701921
The hell is wrong with you?

>> No.9701952

>>9701730
>>9701747
I already feel like I'm talking to a wall.
You ever hear the phrase, "It's not what you say, but how it's said?" Striking a balance between "dignified" and "assertive" is key here. The general public is much less likely to listen to someone talking about "the patriarchy" and "male influence" than someone who points out hypocrisies and inequalities in society.
There was an ad I saw not long ago that showed a little girl huddled up on a couch while various ads for beauty products and girly-girl toys scrolled by. It was more elaborate than that sounds, but it hit me, even if only for a moment, and did it in a way that was neither alienating nor demeaning to anyone.
Which was my point; if you want to reach people, you have to know how to communicate with them.

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>>9701948
More than a few things, but not as much as that guy.

>> No.9702031

>>9701952
Anyone who seriously complains about "patriarchy" is a disease. Muslim domination can't come soon enough.

>> No.9702035

>>9701952
>I already feel like I'm talking to a wall.
Because... I'm not agreeing with you?

>You ever hear the phrase, "It's not what you say, but how it's said?"
It's said in all sorts of ways in all sorts of places.

Frankly, a blog by feminists for feminists should not be expected to treat everything with kid gloves and should not be expected to explain Feminism 101 every single entry.

>someone who points out hypocrisies and inequalities in society
Because it's not like feminists ever do this, right? Or get dismissed when they do?

>> No.9702036

>>9701762
>>Conflict
>>Slow struggle to equality
From the looks of this thread, there's no assumptions from either side about the other and quite a bit of respect for one another! Rejoice! Sexism is dead!

Oh wait, this isn't the future. Struggle on.

>> No.9702044

>>9702031
Patriarchy is a term that has a meaning. You can tell that our society is a patriarchy because the significant majority of the people at the top of *any kind of hierarchy of power*, virtually any kind at all, are overwhelmingly male.

>> No.9702065

>>9702036
Equality is an imaginary construct promoted by populist demagogues for personal gain.

>> No.9702075

>>9702065
That's easy to say when you're not on the unequal end of things.

>> No.9702076

>>9702035
>Because it's not like feminists ever do this, right? Or get dismissed when they do?
And now you're being self-defeating.
You're a real winner kid. Keep fightin' the good fight, and god be with you.

>> No.9702101

>>9702044
You are implying I don't know what patriarchy is. I know exactly what it is. It is the natural relationship of humans and the sign of a normal, masculine society.

>> No.9702106

>>9702044

I think that is because, since time immemorial men have had the reigns and bros like to chill with bros. With that it mind, it is easy to see why they wouldn't want a woman coming in and ruining their club. Of course, women are becoming a ever greater majority of college students so that doesn't bode well for the boy's club. . .

>> No.9702120

>>9702076
>And now you're being self-defeating.
Pointing out that feminists DO that, and that misogynists (and even plain ol' privileged people) tend to dismiss them out of hand and make excuses, is "being self-defeating"?

How the hell did you expect this conversation to go, exactly? "Oh, thanks for pointing out that feminists are just being shrill bitches and should soften their message"?

>> No.9702147

>>9702035
>Frankly, a blog by feminists for feminists should not be expected to treat everything with kid gloves and should not be expected to explain Feminism 101 every single entry.
Which is why they remain secular circlejerks with no real influence; because they're not making people care, they're not making them think. They're blog-therapy for people who want to feel better about the world, but don't care enough to change it.

>> No.9702149

>>9702075
I don't have things bad at all, but I am far, far, far away from being amongst the elite.

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>>9702036
Well let's take the long way to it ok? I still got a secretary to harass come monday! Emphasis on "come"! Haw haw haw!

>> No.9702155

op, I love girls like you
I'm a pretty good looking dude- I used to be fairly shit and fat/chub and had emo hair, but in conjunction with /fit/ and /fa/ have completely changed over the last year and a half. I still love /tg/ and /v/ and geek up massively with my geek friends, and go to tg related shit regularly

the amount of attention I get from girls like you is ridiculous, most of you are actually now BELOW my standards, yet sometimes I'll fuck you anyway and distribute your nudes amongst my neckbeard brothers.

I hate smarmy 6/7 out of 10s like you.

>> No.9702172

>>9702155
this

>> No.9702178

>>9702101
>. It is the natural relationship of humans
That's what people thought about feudalism, too, asshole. Or, hell, about slavery.

>and the sign of a normal, masculine society.
No, it's the cause of a great many injustices.

>>9702106
It's for a wide variety of reasons, the "old boys' club" being one of them, yes.

>Of course, women are becoming a ever greater majority of college students so that doesn't bode well for the boy's club. . .
Not really. Women are still the ones expected to sacrifice their careers for family, and women are flat-out not promoted to higher echelons in virtually any field like they should be. More women may currently be getting college degrees, but that hasn't translated to any kind of meaningful improvement at higher levels.

>> No.9702190

>>9702155

Well OP is a man... So, congrats?

>> No.9702205

>To all you male players out there

So to the entire board?

Men are designed to think about sex.

If you don't like it.

DON'T PLAY.

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>>9702178
Feudalism is an honest system that does not lie about supposed "equality". I wouldn't say I promote it, as it is entirely agrarian in nature. But for what it is, there is nothing wrong with it. Perhaps you should study the causes that led to the system. It had its uses and "freedom" had nothing to do with its downfall.

The only reason we think slavery is wrong is because capitalism makes a fetish of free labor. That, plain and simple.

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>>9702178
>Or, hell, about slavery.

>> No.9702258

>>9702190
nevertheless, it's still true. I feel bad for my bros when some fucking average weaboo girl comes into a campaign halfway through and starts OMG I'M A GIRL GAMER, it demeans them to have them slavering over her, and it also detracts from the campaign itself.

These girls, they can't be attractive in normal social situations, can't pick up at uni, or in clubs, so they become the queen bees of these gaming circles and suddenly think they're tyra banks, it really shits me off. They'd be torn to shreds in seconds by any of the girls I date in real life (I keep the two seperate.... most people don't know I game)

It puts a smile on my face when I finally slam them and tell them of their insignificance, and show everyone the nudes. I've developed somewhat of a rep for it.

That being said I have met two girls that were genuinley attractive and gamed, but they were both asian and a little weird.

>> No.9702280

Slashy, go back to bed. Your partner misses your warm blubbery mounds.

>> No.9702297

>>9702178

You see 'injustice', I see 'whining'. Convince me you're not the one in the wrong without driving me away with sexist drivel and petty insults. If you can make your point reasonably, you're head and shoulders above nearly every feminist I've ever read - and this is the point >>9702147 was making. If you treat yourselves like an elitist in-club and jump to 'righteous indignation' at the drop of a hat, guess what you will literally always be? The majority of feminists marginalize themselves with this sort of shit, they almost seem to make a visible effort at coming off as angry dykes with daddy issues or a bad divorce or two.

So rarely do I come across a proclaimed feminist who isn't bitter, temperamental, judgmental, sexist or a titanic hypocrite, or some combination thereof, and fewer still are the feminists I've encountered who didn't take up that attitude due to problems with hubby or daddy or some such thing.

A clear, measured, reasonable feminist seems very, very rare to me.

>> No.9702310

>>9702147
>Which is why they remain secular circlejerks with no real influence; because they're not making people care, they're not making them think.
That's not what blogs by feminists, for feminists are there for. You might as well complain that /tg/ isn't changing the tabletop gaming industry.

Feministing or some other site like that isn't NOW or the Feminist Majority Foundation or a woman's shelter. It's not an organization. Some people who read feministing--more than the average number--are members of or contribute to the work of feminist organizations and causes. Occasionally, the blogs themselves do Get Shit Done, but that's not what they're for.

>They're blog-therapy for people who want to feel better about the world, but don't care enough to change it.
No, they're really not. They serve a variety of purposes, some frivolous, some important.

>> No.9702401

>>9702228

Agreed. Our present system never ceases to espouse the virtues of freedom and equality, yet... honestly, looking around for even a moment, is anyone seriously going to claim Western society today is either? No more so than any other society in the world today. Better perhaps than China or the Islamic dictatorships, better perhaps than the martial rule of the African warlord of the week, but we're not so much more 'free' and 'equal' that we can suck our own dicks as much as we do.

Better to admit that people aren't equal and have no particular inherent right to be than sit around with our ears plugged and our eyes screwed shut trying to pretend we're infinitely better off now. Seriously, whoever came up with the idea that equality is an inalienable right? What stops me from just pointing a gun at anyone and telling them they do what I say now? Law? Law enforcement? Doesn't that just break down to 'We have more guns, and more people believe we're right'? There is no 'equality', there is simply a more subtle take on 'might maketh right'.

Now, this is not to say that I don't find our current system quite pleasant, but for fuck's sake, all this freedom and democracy fetishization is utterly laughable. The only reason we don't dictate to and dominate each other is for fear of the government and the fact that it has more guns than any one of us. Law enforcement is rule by muscle same as any system of governance throughout human history.

>> No.9702407

>>9702228
>there's nothing wrong with feudalism or slavery
Oh, a troll. never mind.

>>9702297
>You see 'injustice', I see 'whining'.
Uh-huh.

>Convince me you're not the one in the wrong without driving me away with sexist drivel and petty insults.
Holy shit, dude. You think that the way I've been talking to you is sexist... but you don't think actual, honest-to-god sexism is out there and has consequences?
Really?

>nearly every feminist I've ever read
Which feminists have you read? I'm curious.

>A clear, measured, reasonable feminist seems very, very rare to me.
Maybe that's because whenever you encounter one who doesn't behave according to some idealized standard that doesn't even exist, and that *you* certainly don't converse at (you just accused me of being sexist, and then proceeded to pull out the "feminists are angry man-hating dykes" chestnut from the 80s), you just dismiss their opinion as being too temperamental, or judgmental, or sensitive, or having daddy issues, sexist towards men (it's funny how easily you jump to point out sexism towards men... almost as if you're... too sensitive?).

I mean, really, you're simultaneously calling feminists man-hating dykes, overly sensitive, and taking offense that their tone isn't perfect. Doesn't that cause any cognitive dissonance?

>If you treat yourselves like an elitist in-club
Feminism does not treat itself like an elitist in-club.
Does that really mean that every feminist blogger everywhere should rehash Feminism 101 in the comments of every entry?

>The majority of feminists marginalize themselves with this sort of shit,
Actually, people like you marginalize the majority of feminists with this sort of unfounded shit.

>> No.9702408

>>9702297

>A clear, measured, reasonable woman is very very rare.

Fix'd

>> No.9702426

>>9702297
>So rarely do I come across a proclaimed feminist who isn't bitter, temperamental, judgmental, sexist or a titanic hypocrite,
So rarely do I come across a proclaimed liberal who isn't bitter, temperamental, judgmental, PC or a titanic hypocrite
So rarely do I come across a proclaimed conservative who isn't bitter, temperamental, judgmental, sexist, racist or a titanic hypocrite
So rarely do I come across a proclaimed fa/tg/uy who isn't bitter, temperamental, judgmental, sexist or a titanic hypocrite


Just sayin'

>> No.9702436

>>9702408
>We men are so clear and rational and unemotional. EDITION WAR TIME, GUYS. 4E = WoW. SAGE. HE THINKS SAGE DOES SOMETHING!

>> No.9702474

>>9702310
>That's not what blogs by feminists, for feminists are there for.
>by feminists, for feminists
Again, point. If you're not reaching out to people, you're being a secular black hole of null-thought. There's strain of thought that says you should always be bringing in new users (filtering out what garbage you can) into a community, so you can keep talking and discussing in ways that make you use that squidgy little organ in your head.
This is hardly about blogs, but about the community at large, which seems less concerned with reaching the public with it's issues than it is with fighting threats with a slowly dwindling number of idealogical associates.

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>>9702407
If you don't actually know anything about old institutions, how can you possibly be fit to judge them? Some dyke feeding you ideological information is not an education. Feudalism died because strong autocratic kings wanted to centralize their power. If you think equality or freedom are the reasons we don't have feudalism anymore, you are a sad, deluded individual.

Likewise, if you think the reason that we don't have slavery anymore has anything to do with anything other than religious extremists and capitalists. Then again, I'm sure you think "slavery" just means a bunch of blacks picking cotton.

Of course, I'm sure both concepts mean nothing other than the oppressive man lording it over the weak.

>> No.9702480

>>9702436
We men are so clear and rational and unemotional, that I am going to beat you up because you insist that my municipality's hired professional athletes are homosexual, while I insist that YOUR municipality's hired professional athletes are!

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>>9702436

geez you're easy to troll

I bet every time someone makes a sexist joke you make the miss-favor of explaining for everyone why the joke is not funny because of the sexism in it

>> No.9702517

>>9702502
HAHAHAno

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>>9702407
>And now I'll clearly illustrate why no one likes me; I'm a cunt, a gigantic hypocrite, and a troll.

>> No.9702544

>>9699401
omg you get hit on?! how horrible it must be for you, to attract attention from MALES!!! they are so disgusting, right? How dare they even approach you, the pathetic losers?!

>> No.9702545

>>9702474
>Again, point. If you're not reaching out to people, you're being a secular black hole of null-thought.
Feminism certainly is reaching out to people. Part of the way it does that is by having articulate, educated writers writing about feminism and feminist issues, sometimes seriously, sometimes humorously. Part of the way it does that is by *pointing out sexism*--that's how I became a feminist.

>This is hardly about blogs, but about the community at large, which seems less concerned with reaching the public with it's issues than it is with fighting threats with a slowly dwindling number of idealogical associates.
I'm not really sure why you consider yourself such an expert on the community at large, or why you even consider yourself familiar with the community at large. You've repeatedly avoided clarifying exactly what basis you have to make these enormously broad statements about feminists and feminism. There are a lot of feminists, feminist organizations, sites, etc.

>This is hardly about blogs, but about the community at large
You're surprised that the community at large isn't bending over backwards to respond in *perfect tone* to someone who spends half their time calling them man-hating dykes with daddy issues?

>> No.9702557

>>9702502
I wanted to laugh that someone accidentally came here instead of /sp/ and will now not be going back there because of something they didn't do...

But then I noticed the Doomrider facepalm and am no longer sure of what to think.

Have to give props to that poster. My brain was full of fuck for a moment there.

>> No.9702559

Everybody judges people by race, sex, gender, orientation, religion, political beliefs, height, weight, attractiveness, the length of their hair, the type of glasses they wear, everything. Anybody who says differently is lying to themselves and everybody else.

On a side note, I hate activists, at least the ones that hang around San Francisco. They are abrasive and get nothing done. The other day there was a thing against the new Immigration law in Arizona at San Francisco State University. They go where most people go to enjoy their lunch and make a big scene and get nothing done. It is Arizona state law, some students in San Francisco are not going to overthrow it by talking about it during lunch time.

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>>9702506
Pic related.

>>9702530
>I have no argument so I must post umad.jpg

>> No.9702575

>>9702559
>It is Arizona state law, some students in San Francisco are not going to overthrow it by talking about it during lunch time.
...Because it's not like talking about things, raising awareness, etc are at all helpful, right?

>> No.9702580

>>9702506
>joke about women = LOLOL
>joke about men = OMG U GOT TROLLED ECKS DEE

>> No.9702581

>>9699401

no

i cant keep my mind out of the gutter when im not gaming..why the fuck should gaming be any different

oink oink baby

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>>9702561

>> No.9702589

to hit on a female player/character in game is bad form.

however i'd just hit on your irl, so...

>> No.9702592

>>9702544
>How dare a woman not consider herself public property and be creeped out by my constant, unwelcome attention!

>> No.9702599
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>>9702586
>defend my opinion
>against someone going "u mad"
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

>> No.9702607

>>9702589

- typos, i'm drunk

>> No.9702611

>>9702575
Arizona is the only state with the balls to do something about the problem, pity the effort is misdirected at the immigrants instead of the "free trade" policies that force them to immigrate.

The students protesting are just idiots. Fight racism with racism, mirite?

>> No.9702612

>>9702545
Pointing out sexism is fun. Like how jobs have very little issue with women with long hair but look down on guys with long hair. Or how it is in the dress code that women can wear slacks or skirts while men can only wear slacks. Why can't a dude wear a skirt? Sexism, I swear. Know what else is bullshit? How women aren't available for military draft.

>> No.9702625

>>9702611

more like good policy with stupidity. how dare an individual state not enforce federal immigration law by adopting it as their own.

>> No.9702626

>>9702545
>You're surprised that the community at large isn't bending over backwards to respond in *perfect tone* to someone who spends half their time calling them man-hating dykes with daddy issues?
Why do you keep assuming you're only arguing with one person? Or that everyone here shares the same opinion? Or that we don't want to hear yours? Or that you're free to lash out violently at everyone because just one person is acting like a cock?

>> No.9702638

>>9702575
But that is all activists ever seem to do these days. Raise awareness. They don't try to actively get things done. I used to rather active in my local GSA and I left because I felt like the way we were doing things were further alienating the gay community.

>> No.9702642

>>9702625
Because it doesn't solve the problem and never will. Its putting a fucking bandaid on a structural fault.

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>>9702599
>I think this is actually going somewhere.
>I also get all of my image macros from encyclopediadramatica.com. They're so lulzy!

>> No.9702654

>>9702612
>Pointing out sexism is fun. Like how jobs have very little issue with women with long hair but look down on guys with long hair.
Yeah, man.
The standards of appearance for men at work are so much more strict than the standards of appearance for women.
It's soooooo unfair. Men have it so hard at work. It's so hard to be promoted as a man. Women are in charge of everything. They disproportionately run companies, are managers, etc.

ohwait~

Also,
>talking about sexism
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN, THEY ARE SO DISCRIMINATED AGAINST
Roffles. Bingo.

>> No.9702667

>>9702638
Because they are fucking pussies who glorify victimhood. You think that anyone's who cause depends on being a victim will do anything besides bitch and grovel for attention and pity?

>> No.9702682

>>9702654
A woman who works as a nurse was actually going on about how rabidly sexist female nurses are towards male nurses... it aint just people's imagination, and the whole attitude feminists have of DURR ALL ATTITUDES TOWARDS MEN ARE JUSTIFIED just discredits the movement.

>> No.9702693

>>9702654
You know conceding points actually bolsters your argument? You must be an antisocial creeper for as abrasive as you try to be.

>> No.9702704

>>9702611
>>9702611

more like good policy with stupidity. how dare an individual state not enforce federal immigration law by adopting it as their own.

>> No.9702709

>>9702310
Sooooo feminism is confusing because:

On one hand, women have problems only women have. They tend to be more acute than men's.

On the other, Women complain about them. They complain more than men do. (Or they're more sensitive, take your pick)

Those problems need to get solved, but where you and I differ would be that anyone can solve a problem, given tools and training, while you would say only a woman can help a women victimized by a man. I think.

It's a sticking point feminism has trouble with : a man who could help can't because he's part of the problem. When he then hears complaining about "men r pigs lololol" or "nice guys r evil!!!" well it gets him thinking : "A truly desperate person doesn't care who helps."

Which brings up the way we measure this: money. Who has it, and who spends it, and who benefits from it. Will more college grads = more women CEOs? Maybe. But maybe not. Women tend to earn less, but they also control most of the household purchases, they do the research a big and small purchases needs.

Is our current society the best? No! Not even close. The reason is the massive deficit between, not women and men, but between rich and poor, educated and uneducated. Feminism is almost trivial compared to that gulf.

A world where someone lives on less than 1$ a day is not a balanced world. Now, to solve that problem, women have to be included. If some women exclusively help women... well fine.

Don't expect help from me. I'd rather help men and woman both. And all the cute forest animals too!!!!

>> No.9702712

>>9702667
I agree. Playing the victim does very little and that is all a lot of gay rights activists do.

I think the best way to end discrimination against LGBTs are to encourage them to come out and not be ashamed. Be proud, but not "In your face". The only way to lessen discrimination is to make it not that big of a deal.

>> No.9702715

OP plays with people who actually are losers in RL.

Which is the real problem. :/

I run my D&D games with people who I'd go to the club with, or drink with, or smoke some green with.

Then again, my games tend to also make -other- D&D games look softcore. I mean, seriously, a guy in armour, with a melee weapon? Lame-fucking-sawce. It's like everyone is stuck in level 6 mode forever, and never learns about beating up Genies for swag, or knows how to make a character that can curbstomb Asmodeus.

>> No.9702720

>>9702612

Protip, feminists everywhere: equality *blows*. 'Least you don't have to go signin' forms sayin' you're alright gettin' drafted if the government ever brings it back. Hell, you even get your own prisons. In an equal world, prisons would be unisex - have fun with that thought.

>> No.9702723

>>9702638
>But that is all activists ever seem to do these days. Raise awareness.
Speaking as an activist... bullshit.


>>9702626
>Why do you keep assuming you're only arguing with one person?
Because he's posting similar things in a similar style.

>Or that everyone here shares the same opinion?
I don't assume that. I'm here; obviously, I don't share the opinion of the guy I'm arguing with.

>Or that we don't want to hear yours?
The responses are pretty much making that clear.

>Or that you're free to lash out violently at everyone because just one person is acting like a cock?
This is "lashing out violently"? This is vastly milder than you'll get in any other thread on /tg/. Are you sure you don't just react to any kind of remotely feminist rhetoric by labelling it "lashing out" because you've absorbed propaganda about "shrill angry feminists"?

>> No.9702726

>>9699401
umm, we're never had that problem. only deal is we never keep a steady female player in our group. We will make the occasional sexist comment, but everyone has a girlfriend outside the table. Just keep trying till you find a new group. we try to keep sex out of the rpg cause we get that in real life. You role play to do something you dont do in real life. like cast magics and beat the shit out of everyone you see. find a new group

>> No.9702735

>>9702654

>ohwait~

a couple of blowjobs here and there could fix that

>> No.9702753

>>9702654
I am well aware that it is easier in quite a few environments to be a man (jobs being a bid one), but it is easier in others to be a woman (Like when calling the police and playing the victim).

Both have positives and negatives, just like any group.

>> No.9702760

>>9702654

>Men aren't discriminated against, because this would challenge my ideological bubble with an unpleasant complication. Only women are discriminated against. This is not ridiculously sexist. Evidence: I'm a feminist. We can't be sexist at all.

>> No.9702767
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>>9702735
This is the fucking answer for the entire thread.
Kind of like the punchline, girls can get ahead on their backs, guys cant. Now keep your menstrual blood off my fucking 4chan

>> No.9702781

learned choose my words carefully around women after being clawed up by a septmate

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>>9702709
Women and Men have different issues because, despite what deluded leftists will tell you, they are different. You do not treat equally what is not equal. Pregnancy and all of the issues surrounding it are not "problems", only a militant leftist considers the fundamental characteristic of femininity to be a "problem".

The problem is that there IS a problem. That shows that our society is broken.

>> No.9702797

>>9702723
>This is "lashing out violently"? This is vastly milder than you'll get in any other thread on /tg/. Are you sure you don't just react to any kind of remotely feminist rhetoric by labelling it "lashing out" because you've absorbed propaganda about "shrill angry feminists"?

Why do you keep putting words in our mouths? Does it give you a rush? Does it get you off? Do you like to slap your face while imagining yourself running through endless fields of cock? Out with it you damnable man-wretch, I'm on to you!

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>248 posts and 54 image replies omitted.

Well, it's so damn obvious...

But 10/10 OP, you got the hell out of them.

>> No.9702819

>>9702753

Hell, divorces, abortions, child care, anything to do with sex or violence at all... the most common example is the hilarious farce that is the common legal response to female rape. And again - military draft immunity and single-sex prisons are privileges that exist only for women. Men don't get locked up with men because they want to (or really, even care at all), women get locked up with women because the government doesn't want to put them in with men.

>> No.9702823

>>9702682
>A woman who works as a nurse was actually going on about how rabidly sexist female nurses are towards male nurses
I like how you're willing to believe that sexism against male nurses is a big problem because some woman said so once... but you seem so reluctant to believe that sexism against women in any of a hundred fields is a big problem, despite all the people saying so.

For the record, male nurses make more than female ones.

>>9702709
>It's a sticking point feminism has trouble with : a man who could help can't because he's part of the problem
Man, speaking *as* a male feminists--feminists fucking love male allies. They appreciate the hell out of us.
Those of us who are actually feminists, and not assholes adopting feminist rhetoric because it makes us feel good and then acting like sexist jerks.

>>9702693


>>9702712
>I agree. Playing the victim does very little and that is all a lot of gay rights activists do.
...it's not like gay people are *actually victimized*, right? They're just whining! They have equality! What are they complaining about!

>>9702693
>You know conceding points actually bolsters your argument?
...what, do you expect me to go "oh, my bad, men have it so bad! Feminism is so misguided."

You're trying to claim that men have it so bad at work, when in reality, men have a ton more leeway in terms of how they dress themselves. On top of, you know, being disproportionately valued, listened to, and promoted.
And you expect me to concede to that, because... why? It's not just wrong, it's very wrong.

>You must be an antisocial creeper for as abrasive as you try to be.
I'm just disagreeing with you, man. Why is that "abrasive"?

>> No.9702826

>>9702735
The supreme irony is that women get about ten times or more pleasure from sex than men do. My math is that that little clitoris has twice the nerves as in a whole penis, and a woman can climax five times or more in the same time it takes a man to do so once, so that's around 10x.

>> No.9702830

>this thread

And people wonder why /tg/ gets those "OH GOD I'M SO RONERY HOW I GET GURL" threads popping up constantly. Way to social skill and reasonable debate, people.

>> No.9702835

>>9699401
>I'm not 200 pounds overweight

You speak lies.

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>>9702798

Man, this is fun. I'm not even the femitroll and I'm loving this. Beats droning about 40k and D&D editions fucking endlessly.

>> No.9702854

>>9699401

I confess, I do not care about your problem.

I want to be having sex, I don't want to be gaming.

I am not at your table.

I am out trying to get both men and women to fuck, and be fucked by, me. I want to feel hot dick in my ass and I want to get my dick nice and slick in your vagina.

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>>9702839
Join us on /new/, anon, every thread is like this. Its glorious.

>> No.9702859

OP is a troll, GAMER GIRLZ usually do what they do because they enjoy being fawned over by men, any enjoyment they derive from the actual activity in question is secondary to the enjoyment of being the center of attention all the time.

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>>9702826

Roughly one third of females cannot orgasm. Woo. Pleasure.

And I'm not even the femitroll. I'm a tripfag.

>> No.9702871

>>9702823
>...it's not like gay people are *actually victimized*, right? They're just whining! They have equality! What are they complaining about!

Possibly not being able to marry in most states as well as have trouble adopting children. That I think is a fight worth fighting for. They are just fighting for it wrong.

>> No.9702884

>>9702868

Females cannot orgasm because they don't know how to start the damn car.

>> No.9702910

>>9702819

>the hilarious farce that is the common legal response to female rape.

Yeah, the way the police commonly ignores and distorts the woman's testimony, and the way the defense will always accuse her of being a whore and question her behavior based on the clothes she was wearing, and the way it's almost impossible to get a man convicted if he's white, rich and connected...

>> No.9702911

>>9702781
This shit is why I am so glad now that my dick got burned off when I was 12.

Sure, it might mean that my sexuality got fucked and now I think weaponry is incredibly attractive, but man and weapon are equals in the optics of the Omnissiah and the God-Emperor.

Also you guys are all fucking stupid. Stop treating women like shit. Pay them the same amount. Treat them like human beings. Give them the chance to have a real job if they decide to have a child, and let them have a life if they decide not to have a child. Don't have a fucking draft in the first place. Let them take maths or engineering without people calling them dykes or dealing with creepy neckbeards like half the assholes in this thread. Stop being creepy neckbeards and take a god damned shower.

This isn't exactly rocket science, you dumb fuckers.

>> No.9702918

>>9702823
>They have equality!
>And them niggers could vote in Missisip! They just had to answer them a few questions is all.
>So what if you have to ride in the back? You're ON the bus, aren't you?

>> No.9702927

>>9702823
Only a slavish weakling, or a woman, plays the victim. Gay men should never do that, they should stand up and take what is there's by right.

>> No.9702932

>>9702826
actually 5 times the nerve endings

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>>9702830
>Social skills
Our friend has demonstrated none of those, otherwise he'd stop punctuating his posts with sarcasm and strawmen.
Fuck it. Report bomb, fa/tg/uys and fa/tg/als, there's nothing of value here.

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Hmmm, stopped in on this thread because I caught some cogent posts about sexism and thought the trolls were gone.

Obviously I was wrong and BAWWWWWW men have it so much worse. And any woman complaining is probably a lesbian anyway.

Here angry males. Have an emo kitty to pet and feel better.

>> No.9702962

>>9702819
Men treat each other special because they think they are the best. Men don't know how to manipulate this that well.
Men treat women special because they think they are weak and fragile. Women know how to manipulate this very well.

>> No.9702970

>>9702753
>Both have positives and negatives, just like any group.
And you, what... want to pretend they're equal? Many of the "positives" of being female actually aren't, BTW. They're restrictions, or the other side of popular double standards that benefit men.


>>9702760
>Men aren't discriminated against,
Men are sometimes discriminated against. Often, it's as the other side of the patriarchal coin--women are seen as inferior, so men don't get to wear women's clothing but women get to wear men's (to a point--drag kings aren't exactly accepted).

Why does every single discussion of sexism against women--broad, society-wide, institutionalized sexism--have to become "but men are occasionally discriminated against too!"?

>>9702819
>the most common example is the hilarious farce that is the common legal response to female rape
Jesus, dude! Yeah, women who were raped have it so fucking easy. Nothing as easy as getting a rape conviction!

Meanwhile, in the real world, the fucking cops often tend to engage in victim blaming and generall make things worse, not better, and even victims who *do* go to the police have something like a 16% conviction rate.

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>>9702927
*theirs. Knew that looked wrong.

>> No.9702973

>>9702910

Er. Female rape. As in, the female commits the act. Female rapist. Apologies for the lack of clarity.

>> No.9703007

>>9702910
Ah, your one of those people

>> No.9703012

>>9702973

Oh you gais
That never happens.
Women are not strong enough to rape.
(And they're far too innocent to rape)
(And a woman is above rape and sex and hates sex)

>> No.9703019

>>9699401
Not OP and not a girl, there is a difference between a gamer girl (god i fucking hate them) and a girl who plays games. learn it.

Also OP feminism is good in its points, but a lot of feminists bring nuclear weapons to a fist fight. I agree that there are still a lot of things that are not equal between man and women, but deciding that every man who points out that sometimes feminists go overboard is a demon is also stereotyping.

>> No.9703023

>>9702962

>Men treat each other special because they think they are superior. Men take this as norm and compete against each other.
Men treat women special because they think they are inferior. Women must also see themselves as inferior and play by those rules to survive. If they stick their head out they are ostracized and punished.

Fix'd.

>> No.9703024

>>9703012
To be fair, a man who is raped by a woman is a pathetic weakling.

>> No.9703035

>but you seem so reluctant to believe that sexism against women in any of a hundred fields is a big problem, despite all the people saying so.

I didn't say shit about there not being sexism against women. Reasonable people can agree that sexism is a bad thing and that both men and women deserve equal rights. Feminists are adamant that women deserve more rights than men do and that any bad attitudes towards men are trivial.

In any case, there are unfortunate attitudes towards women in existence. Feminists are not the people to discuss it with.

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>>9703024

Only if he complains about it.

>> No.9703042

>>9703024

Or he was drugged, emotionally exploited, or blackmailed.

Way to be a faggot who perpetuates gender stereotypes.

You're probably the OP.

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>>9702911
>This shit is why I am so glad now that my dick got burned off when I was 12.
Oh god, I remember that. You weren't able to laugh for weeks. Every time I'd crack a joke you'd alternate between giggling and groaning while your bacon bits remains tried to rip themselves open again. That was a fun month.

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DISTRACTION PENIS!

>> No.9703058

>>9703024
What?

Have you not heard of an invention called a gun?

>> No.9703065

>>9702871
>That I think is a fight worth fighting for. They are just fighting for it wrong.
Every single activist group hears this, pretty much nonstop. Women's suffrage? "You're just going about it wrong", "now isn't the time", etc. Martin Luther King Jr? "You're going about it wrong", "now isn't the time", etc.

And, no, it's not just marriage rights and the approximately 9003 things they cover.

>>9702962
>Men treat each other special because they think they are the best. Men don't know how to manipulate this that well.
The hell they don't, what do you think they old boys' club IS?
But the thing is--they don't *have* to. That's how institutionalized discrimination works. They are *automatically* favored. By people who don't even know they're consciously doing it, part of the time.

>>9702946
>Obviously I was wrong and BAWWWWWW men have it so much worse
This is what pretty much EVERY SINGLE CONVERSATION ABOUT SEXISM devolves to, ever. Because it's so fucking hard to acknowledge that, hey, sexism exists, racism exists, anti-gay discrimination exists, without bemoaning how much worse men, white people, straight people have it.

I mean, gay people can't get each other pregnant! HOW UNFAIR IS THAT IT'S SO HARD TO BE STRAIGHT THEY NEED TO SHUT UP ABOUT INEQUALITY.

>> No.9703067

>>9703042
No...those are pretty pathetic, except the drugged part. That just makes him a chump.

>> No.9703085

>>9702970
>And you, what... want to pretend they're equal?

I consider them equal. Well, as equal as it is going to get as long as stereotypes and non-equality ideals are in the media, workplace, law and everywhere. If you want true equality, we need a major society overhauling.

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>the existence of a female gamer

>> No.9703091

>>9703067

>If a man is raped he counts as a woman and therefore deserves it

>> No.9703099

>>9703065
HELLO HAVE YOU TRIED BEING LESS OF A DOUCHEBAG

THEN PERHAPS YOU WOULD BE GOING ABOUT IT THE RIGHT WAY

>> No.9703108

>>9703012
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL
THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DAY A WOMAN CAN RAPE A MAN AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT SHE SO CHOOSES ! ID DOES NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH SEX
BUT DUE TO MALE SIDED RAPE LEGALY RAPE IS DEFINED AS UNCONCENTUAL PENITRATION

THIS IS DEFACTO DESCRIMINATION AGAINST MEN AS
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL

>> No.9703109

>>9703012
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL
THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE DAY A WOMAN CAN RAPE A MAN AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT SHE SO CHOOSES ! ID DOES NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH SEX
BUT DUE TO MALE SIDED RAPE LEGALY RAPE IS DEFINED AS UNCONCENTUAL PENITRATION

THIS IS DEFACTO DESCRIMINATION AGAINST MEN AS
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL
RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL

>> No.9703119

Feminism has run its course, women as a class are now treated far better then men are.

but has feminism ended? No, if that was the case then all the feminist academics would have to go get real jobs. So now they have turned it into man hating.

Sure, some girls might call themselves feminists or try to say "but not all feminists are like that" they are wrong. Feminism's mainstream leaders are dangerous radicals who have said extremely hateful things about men and make up statistics on a regular basis.

Feminism is a hate movement, it wasn't once, but now it is the moral equivalent of the Nazi party or the KKK.

>> No.9703132

>>9703085
Believing in "equality" is literally the same as believing in ODIN. It sure sounds cool on face value, but if you truly believe it, you are deluded.

There is no way to empirically prove equality, because it isn't real. Its a religious belief that is out of touch with reality.

>> No.9703139

>>9703023

lol, no. I sure as fuck don't behave in a (more) respectful fashion towards women because I think them below me.

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>> No.9703144

>>9703119
>bullshit strawman

Feminist != feminazi

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE

>> No.9703146

Oh you guys men don't deserve anything...except to fill the military and any jobs involving manual labor so women don't have to do any important jobs.

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Thread needs more emo kitties to love.

I mean honestly /tg/ did none of your mothers ever work? Did you not talk to your moms about... anything? Call them up tomorrow since it is Mother's Day and ask them about sexism. You may have your eyes opened.

>> No.9703177

>>9703042
Emotionally exploited?

Isn't that pretty much every relationship ever then?

OH NOEZ I WAS RAEP

but seriously, cops/prosecutors are suspicious about rape claims because they're very easy to falsify and just an indictment can destroy the defendant's life, even if proven innocent. Because he's A RICH WHITE MALE amirite?
Just like those duke u fags totally raped that poor single mother of color right?

You are basically taking one person's word against another's, there is often no physical evidence.

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>>9703099
WHAT IS THIS KINDNESS? RESPECT? THESE CONCEPTS ARE COMPLETELY ALIEN! I AM IN NO WAY HYPOCRITICAL IN SAYING THAT MEN SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PITY ME BECAUSE I AM A HAPLESS WOMAN! SOCIETY DO NOT HAVE LIVES AND I DO NOT GRASP THE CONCEPTS OF "DEAL WITH IT" AND "MOVE THE FUCK ON." I AM A MASSIVE ATTENTION WHORE AND DEMAND YOUR RESPONSES!

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>>9703164

I don't want to hear shit.

Get fucked, don't do any work, push out children. God it's the easiest job in the world, why would I ever want to be a soldier or do anything hard when men will do it for me?

>> No.9703212

>>9703164
honestly, have you ever just walked into an argument and not stated any points, just acted like you knew everything. Thats not how you change opinions, it is how you strengthen them

>> No.9703216

>>9702784
I never said woman and men were the same or equal. Those simple words are pure BS nowadays anyway, what the hell is an "equal" human? Do we count brain cells? Muscle fibers? Equal meant something to M. King and Malcolm X and the woman suffragettes of the 20s. To us, it's a bulldozer in the playground.

Caring for children is an issue that needs more than just one person: it takes a school, a library, a hospital, a public parc and pool.

It takes 3 square meals a day and vaccines. Which many people in the world barely get.

>>9702819
The US prison system is huge, comical, and very, very deadly farce.

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Feminist/man pretending to be one in here just wants a strong man to dominate her. White men are weak and unable to perform manly duties so they let women walk all over them, feminism is the result.

Sharia law can't come soon enough.

>> No.9703229

>>9703007
One of those people who actually knows something about a trial?

Jesus, there was a case recently where two girls busted into a locked room, found like seven dudes fucking an unconscious girl with vomit in her mouth (some fucking, some waiting), got her out despite the guys' threats, and they STILL couldn't get a rape convition.

Meanwhile, in Australia, a jury didn't convict a rapist, because... the woman was wearing skinny jeans. I am not joking. This is an actual thing. It's not the first time.

>>9703035
>Feminists are adamant that women deserve more rights than men do and that any bad attitudes towards men are trivial.
BULLSHIT. You just flat-out made that up. Feminists want *equality*. Not pseudo-equality where discrimination is alive and well, actual equality. They do not think bad attitudes towards men, or male issues, are trivial. Feminists give far more of a shit about male rape, or prison rape, than the average dude, I guarantee it. I've worked with feminists trying to do something about prison rape, while the dudes I know treat it as an endless font of humor and/or justified.

There is no secret feminist conspiracy to put women on top the way men are now.

>In any case, there are unfortunate attitudes towards women in existence. Feminists are not the people to discuss it with.
Then who the fuck is, man?

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>>9703065
God you're hot. Can I buy you a drink?

>> No.9703254

>>9703019
>deciding that every man who points out that sometimes feminists go overboard is a demon is also stereotyping.
Except that *nobody has decided that*. But the guy whose post consists mainly of "feminists are overly-sensitive shrill angry dykes with daddy issues, and I don't listen to them because they don't talk to me in a way I perceive as humble and polite enough"? He's probably not sincerely interested, y'know?

>>9703024
>To be fair, a man who is raped by a woman is a pathetic weakling.
Please note that attitudes like this tend to belong to men, often misogynist men. Feminists tend to find this belief repulsive.

>>9703200
>Get fucked, don't do any work, push out children. God it's the easiest job in the world,
This is what misogynists ACTUALLY BELIEVE!

>> No.9703264

>>9703085

And again, it ain't a pleasant picture. Unisex prisons. Women'll LOVE that.

And how will the minorities feel when all race-based financial assistance of every kind is permanently abolished?

'Equality' is just as awful as the lack thereof. There's a reasonable balance somewhere, but total equality is absolutely not it.

>> No.9703267

>>9703108
>RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL
No its not, while often repeated this quote originally came from a batshit insane(even by their standards) feminist who never came up with anything to back it up.

Most people in jail for rape said it was about the sex when polled.

>> No.9703274

>>9703229
>Please note that attitudes like this tend to belong to men, often misogynist men. Feminists tend to find this belief repulsive.

If I gave the impression that I was anything but that, I apologize, but I don't see anything in my post that would suggest as such.

I am certainly not a feminist.

>> No.9703282

>>9703065
>Every single activist group hears this, pretty much nonstop. Women's suffrage? "You're just going about it wrong", "now isn't the time", etc. Martin Luther King Jr? "You're going about it wrong", "now isn't the time", etc.

I believe I sent the wrong message across. I am for LGBT rights, I am for equal rights for everybody. Now is a great time to fight for rights, but do it in a less...I guess obnoxious way. Playing the victim earns sympathy, not equality.

A great deal of activists play the victim, I know this and you know this. It is not the way to do it. Do not appear victimized, appear proud and strong.

Me and my girlfriend have had discussions about this. We hate how LGBT activists have rallies where they talk about the hate crimes that happen against LGBTs. This does nothing but make you seem like a whiner and doesn't build pride in the community. It doesn't encourage others to come out or for others to support you.

As opposed to this, I think they should talk about the accomplishments of LGBTs, such as Harvey Milk. Building pride within a community is far more powerful than building sympathy outside of it.

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>>9703254
>>9703229
Baby slow down, I can't take this much abuse in one sitting.

>> No.9703309

>>9703144
There isn't a fucking difference. How can there be a difference when all the leaders say the same thing? Its like saying the KKK is not about racism.

>> No.9703317

>>9703309
Go away, troll.

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>>9703254

If I was a woman I'd be happy.

I am a man, so I'm pretty much fucked. I have to be assertive and earn my living, rather than just take whatever dick comes along.

THIS IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE.

>> No.9703326

>>9703282
You are arguing with a feminist, someone who masturbates to victimhood.

Blacks died for their equality, and did so strongly, not weakly. As a fool, she does not understand that non-violence is not a weak path, it is merely a practical one. When violence will LOSE, as with blacks against whites, you do not use it.

>> No.9703327

>>9699401
well op, i see your point, but most adament feminists i talk to back in the real world. seem completely misinformed and when i try to make a reasonable point destroy me because i'm a male and i can never see from they're perspective. If the majority of feminists see from a reasonable point of view, i have seen none of them in person. (however i moved to the south a few years ago, and i rarely see an informed person)

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>>9703327

If you become a trap they could never tell the difference.

>> No.9703373

>>9703177
>but seriously, cops/prosecutors are suspicious about rape claims because they're very easy to falsify and just an indictment can destroy the defendant's life, even if proven innocen
No, they're "suspicious about rape claims"--to the point where the cops often don't even give women rape kits when they ask for them, and to the point where many rape kits never actually get tested--because they keep hearing over and over how, like, women are totally evil bitches who lie about rape all the time, or because they think she was totally asking for it/shouldn't have been there/whatever, or because the accuser is a star athlete, or because...

If only it were cases that were purely "his word against hers" that were hard to prosecute. (Of course, people tend to have sex alone... makes it pretty easy to get away with rape, huh?) It isn't. A very small percentage of rapists--many of whom rape multiple women in their lives--are convicted.

>Just like those duke u fags totally raped that poor single mother of color right?
One case is totally how it always works, right?

>> No.9703377

>>9703177
>but seriously, cops/prosecutors are suspicious about rape claims because they're very easy to falsify and just an indictment can destroy the defendant's life

its a good thing, too: i had a good friend/roommate who fooled around with a girl with a boyfriend, and when she told him about it, she basically twisted the facts to make it sound like she was taken advantage of, so he then made her call the cops and file a report.

the cops sorted it out and nothing ever came of it, thankfully. cops 1, sluts 0

>> No.9703381

>>9703326
I know.

People like that make me weep

>> No.9703414

>>9703317
Im not a troll, just someone willing to call a spade a spade.

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>>9703377

Flawless victory.

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You know, the more images I post, the faster this autosages, right?

So...if I post things like this, am I winning?

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DON'T TAZE ME BRO

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>>9703430
yes

>> No.9703452

>>9703200
Wow. What's it like being a time traveler? Because clearly you haven't lived at any time in...let me check my watch...ever?

I mean seriously? You think that's what half the population does? Just get pregnant and eat bon-bons? Have you ever talked to a woman?

Oh I get it. Trolling. Well played.

>>9703212
Urging to do research=no argument? Guilty. Seriously all you guys arguing, ask your moms tomorrow if sexism is overblown. What can it hurt?

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DON'T STOP ME NOW

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Thank you friend, you've convinced me that I am a horrible person and deserve nothing. I'll see you in hell.

>> No.9703457

>>9703373
>One case is totally how it always works, right?
Actually at least 50% of rape claims are made up and it is both insulting to real rape victims and very traumatic for anyone falsely accused to have that hanging over their head.

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>>9703452

I'M HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME

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>>9703455
DON'T STOP ME NOWWWWWWW~

>> No.9703489

>>9703119
0/10, you aren't even trying, man.

>>9703320
>If I was a woman I'd be happy.
No, you wouldn't. You think this because of some completely fucking unrealistic--and, frankly, trivializing--beliefs about what being a woman is like.

>>9703326
>As a fool, she does not understand that non-violence is not a weak path, it is merely a practical one.
Yeah, all those feminists out there, killing men for feminism. All the time.

What are you even talking about?

>>9703282
>do it in a less...I guess obnoxious way. Playing the victim earns sympathy, not equality.
Less obnoxious how? What was so obnoxious about, say, the "no on Prop 8" campaign in california?

>A great deal of activists play the victim, I know this and you know this. It is not the way to do it. Do not appear victimized, appear proud and strong.
I don't actually know any activists who play the victim, myself. However, I do know quite a few people who have actually *been* victims.

>We hate how LGBT activists have rallies where they talk about the hate crimes that happen against LGBTs. This does nothing but make you seem like a whiner and doesn't build pride in the community. It doesn't encourage others to come out or for others to support you.
Are you fucking kidding? If people didn't talk about hate crimes, we'd never have gotten hate crime legislation. Do you seriously think recognizing that LGBTQ people are more likely to be assaulted, and then to have that crime dismissed/not investigated by local police, is being *whiny*? Holy shit, how incredibly fucking privileged of you.

Basically, you're saying "never talk about all the bad shit that happens to people who are not like me, because I don't like hearing about that shit."

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>>9703455
I'm enjoying this joke.
The guy claims feminism and probably has some feminazi that he's trying to bang right behind him as he continues to bitch. good show chaps, give 'em hell.

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'CAUSE I'M HAVING A GOOD TIME, HAVING A GOOD TIME~!

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HATERS GONNA HATE

>> No.9703514

>>9703282
> We hate how LGBT activists have rallies where they talk about the hate crimes that happen against LGBTs.

Yeah, I wish they'd shut up about being physically attacked and verbally harassed for being who they are. They must make it up anyway.

No one punches people for real!

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>>9703507
gogogo

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BURNING THROUGH THE SKY, YEAH, TWO HUNDRED DEGREES THAT'S WHY THEY CALL ME MR. FAHRENHEIT!

>> No.9703528

>>9703452
i have discussed it with my mother several times before, she was an womans rights activist in the 70's and still believes sexism is going on strong, from both sides of the equation now. I have never personally told a woman she couldn't do something because she was a woman and i never will. I don't support people who do. However every time I try to discuss even the fact that the women are right. I get told to go fuck off cause i'm a man and therefore part of the problem. If most feminists are that way then you should all go buy a gun and kill us all. Because evidentally even you believe we shouldn't be equal, just that women should be dominant.

>> No.9703543

>>9703452
She would tell me it is completely overblown.

My mother is a high level government official with 4 degrees(business, mba, juris doctorate, llm), is a negotiator for the contract for one of the largest government unions. She has also consistently earned more then my father.

As far as I am concerned you are full of shit.

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>>9703526
I'm trav'lin at the speed of light!

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I'M TRAVELING AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT!

>> No.9703564

>>9703457
>Actually at least 50% of rape claims are made up
That isn't even remotely true.
Have you ever had a friend try to get a rape prosecuted, or been at a rape trial? It's NOT an easy process. Far from it. The idea that there's a ton of women out there who'd go through all that because they don't like a guy is stupid. There is no credible research that supports your point; on the contrary, rape is underreported, underprosecuted when it is reported, and difficult as fuck to get a conviction for when it's prosecuted, and when it happens the sentence is often a relative slap on the wrist.

>>9703452
>have you ever talked to a woman?
No, he hasn't.

>>9703377
>the cops sorted it out and nothing ever came of it, thankfully. cops 1, sluts 0
Meanwhile, girls who actually got raped can't even get the cops to give them a rape kit, much less prosecute succesfully. Rapists some huge number, women 0.

>> No.9703570

>>9703373
>(Of course, people tend to have sex alone... makes it pretty easy to get away with rape, huh?)
All sex with a man is rape though.

>> No.9703573
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DON'T STOP ME DON'T STOP ME!

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>>9703553
PORN FOR THE AUTOSAGE GOD

>> No.9703581

>>9703489
0/10 my ass, im right

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>>9703581
Nuke this thread off the planet :c

>> No.9703614

>>9703493
>hurf durf no guy could actually be a feminist doesn't he know that feminists hate men durrrrr

>>9703543
>She would tell me it is completely overblown.
Really? Ask her, you might be surprised.

>My mother is a high level government official with 4 degrees(business, mba, juris doctorate, llm), is a negotiator for the contract for one of the largest government unions. She has also consistently earned more then my father.
Women who've made it that far have almost inevitably experienced sexism very directly and strongly.

Shit, at my workplace, my department isn't even that important, but to get the manager to take either of the women's idea seriously, I basically have to wait a minute and then fucking repeat them word for word.

>>9703528
I really can't speak as to your personal situation, but that's certainly not how any feminist I know acts, expect when guys go "you feminists are so silly, that's not how it is at all, let me enlighten you! My casual analysis is totally more accurate, and is justifiable reason to dismiss all of your personal experiences with sexism, which didn't really happen, because I said so."

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>>9703514
If you think bitching solves shit, you are deluded. But thats probably why you continue to do so.

Protip: improving attitudes towards Gays are not because Gays bitch and whine, its because of those who portray themselves as normal people who have the same rights as anyone else. Guess what? Prejudice doesn't disappear overnight. You think people just suddenly started liking blacks when Jim Crow was outlawed?

Pity is disgusting. No one with any self respect craves it.

>> No.9703630

>>9703489
ALLOW ME TO MAKE A POINT BY POINT COUNTERARGUMENT
>0/10, you aren't even trying, man.
You already replied to this post. You're becoming disorganized.
>No, you wouldn't. You think this because of some completely fucking unrealistic--and, frankly, trivializing--beliefs about what being a woman is like.
Actually no, I'm pretty sure I want to be the little girl.
>Yeah, all those feminists out there, killing men for feminism. All the time.
>What are you even talking about?
Cool reading comprehension Brosef Stalin.
>Less obnoxious how? What was so obnoxious about, say, the "no on Prop 8" campaign in california?
The 8000+ word essay that is this thread says you're a gigantic blubbering non-denominational genital organ.
>I don't actually know any activists who play the victim, myself. However, I do know quite a few people who have actually *been* victims.
Do tell. Provide explicit details, we'll be sure to lube up first.
>Are you fucking kidding? If people didn't talk about hate crimes, we'd never have gotten hate crime legislation. Do you seriously think recognizing that LGBTQ people are more likely to be assaulted, and then to have that crime dismissed/not investigated by local police, is being *whiny*? Holy shit, how incredibly fucking privileged of you.
So you only have enough patience to make one coherent point? Cool. I bet you're great at parties.

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WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703640

>>9703570
>herp derp
lol

>>9703528
>I have never personally told a woman she couldn't do something because she was a woman and i never will
You do realize there's more to sexism than that, right?

Hell, see >>9703614
>Shit, at my workplace, my department isn't even that important, but to get the manager to take either of the women's idea seriously, I basically have to wait a minute and then fucking repeat them word for word.

I don't see this happening at my workplace, but that's just because we don't actually HAVE any women in my department.

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The crappy porn! The crazies! The jerks!

The madness of this thread! I love it!

>> No.9703642

>>9703564
bullshit, the whole reason the cops are suspicious is because they see so many people screaming rape who were not raped.
>The number of false rape allegations concluded in the studied period was 45; this was 41% of the 109 total complaints filed in this period.

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>>9703564

the amount of butthurt in this post is unbelievable

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PLEASE TELL ME

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703671

>>9703642
>Implying the cops thought she that because she was a slut she didn't get raped.

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>>9703573
OOH-OOH-OOH~

>> No.9703673

>>9703617
>Protip: improving attitudes towards Gays are not because Gays bitch and whine
Hate crime legislation is because people talk about hate crimes as a problem, gather data on hate crimes, raise awareness about hate crimes, and finally get it to the point where you can sustain a fucking movement to get hate crime legislation passed. And then it gets passed like ten years later, and Matthew Shepard's mom cries with joy.

>>9703630
You're not actually making any points, or addressing them. I give up.

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FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-FEMINAZI-

PLEASE TELL ME

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

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>>9703641
roger

>> No.9703688

>>9703673

>> No.9703691

Jesus Christ you people act like men actually have bad things happen to them that isn't piddly shit that they bring on themselves. Help a women for christs sake it'll get you pussy and help the world become better.

>> No.9703695

>>9703373
>>many rape kits never actually get tested
>>BAWWing about stereotypes
I don't know where you're getting this from but rape kits don't provide reliable evidence after 72 hours

>>One case is totally how it always works, right?
I provided a case study, you provided rhetoric.
Also, notice how when the story was first reported, everyone assumed they were guilty?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#False_reporting
Anywhere from 8% to 50%, depending on who you ask.

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MENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENW
OMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMENMENWOMEN

PLEASE TELL ME

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703707

>>9703489

First things first, you must realize that we both support LGBT rights, we just view activist activities differently. You are getting unnecessarily angry. I wish to discuss a difference in strategy and you make it seem like I am a bigot or a moron.

>Less obnoxious how? What was so obnoxious about, say, the "no on Prop 8" campaign in california?

1st, I voted no on prop 8
2nd, Prop 8 was treated right for the most part. But SoCal can fuck a lot up

>I don't actually know any activists who play the victim, myself. However, I do know quite a few people who have actually *been* victims.

I know victims as well. You want to know that I noticed in them? They are proud of who they are and they want others to feel the same way. Talking about the beatings others have taken doesn't instill pride. Maybe it does for you, but not for me and my friends.

>Are you fucking kidding? If people didn't talk about hate crimes, we'd never have gotten hate crime legislation. Do you seriously think recognizing that LGBTQ people are more likely to be assaulted, and then to have that crime dismissed/not investigated by local police, is being *whiny*? Holy shit, how incredibly fucking privileged of you.

There you are attacking me again, please try to be civil.

Many are aware this happens and it is good to raise awareness on this, but most make this their entire platform. Very rarely do activists talk about the power and strength of their communities anymore. Imagine if MLK Jr only talked about black people being beaten and never talked about how they will rise from this oppression?
If they want to make new laws, there are ways to get possible state laws to a vote. Get petitions going, mail state and federal senators, do things that will get results while doesn't appear whiny.

>> No.9703708

>>9703642
>bullshit, the whole reason the cops are suspicious is because they see so many people screaming rape who were not raped.
No, it really isn't.

>The number of false rape allegations concluded in the studied period was 45; this was 41% of the 109 total complaints filed in this period.
Bullshit. Show me the study. I'm guessing it doesn't look at *false rape allegations*, it looks at cases where the victim decided to withdraw the claim or not prosecute, which happens for a variety of reasons, most commonly the cops or a lawyer telling the victim that there's not much chance of a conviction.

>> No.9703711

>>9703673
Hate crime legislation does nothing.

It outlaws what is already illegal. A silly "feel good" law enacted out of pity.

>> No.9703717

>>9703691
>im a whipped bitch, but if I make myself into a doormat long enough she will finally sex me
Yeah, ill be over here actually having sex.

>> No.9703737
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>>9703707
You are debating with someone who is probably masturbating RIGHT now. OH GOD OPPRESS ME. HARDER.

Its sickening.

>> No.9703738

>>9703614
on the same note, i'm a guy and mostly what i notice is that i can't get the manager to listen to anything i say because i'm beneath him. i choose to respect the fact that he's worked here for 24 years and has earned the right to disregard my opinion. However i can never rage like you can because i'm a man. I treat women just like i would men. because i was raised to believe the only difference is from nature and should not be from social. (i was also raised homeschooled until 7th grade.) therefore i see a lot of unjustice but i can't change something i don't care about as much as a feminist does. that would be unfair to the people who spend their whole lives working towards equality.

>> No.9703748
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9703748

LUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCASLUCAS
LUCASLUCAS

PLEASE TELL ME

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703768

>>9703711
Actually hate crime is dangerous and might raise a 1st/14th amendment issue.

It punishes people differently then they would have otherwise been punished because of what they believe.

I beat up a guy because he looks at me funny vs I beat up a guy because he is gay.

No difference in what actually happened but in the latter I have committed a "hate crime"

>> No.9703773

>>9703737
I do believe I am getting trolled, but in case I am not, I will continue to be civil.

>> No.9703774
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9703774

PLEASE HURT ME

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703786

>>9703768
If you are going to beat up someone, you better make sure he is the same color as you

>> No.9703791

>>9703717
>Implying misogynists get to have sex
What is with you people? Go around raise rape awareness help get some abortion bills passed do just a little bit of shit to make society better.

>> No.9703792
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>>9703717
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff-

Thread over man, thread over.

That was bootiful.

>> No.9703794
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9703794

Please...someone save...me...I'm dying...

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703804
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>>9703768
Well, to be fair, I was putting it lightly. But yes, you are right.

But then again, the fact that I am trying to speak with someone who thinks the proper response to injustice is to beg for pity and pass laws that prohibit illegal actions has already burned out most of my desire to put much effort in.

>> No.9703806
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9703806

ARE YOU HAPPY THAT YOU'RE KILLING ME?

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703809
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>>9703673
>I give up.

>> No.9703811
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>>9703792

Aye, this man has the truth of it.

>> No.9703817

>>9703695
>Anywhere from 8% to 50%, depending on who you ask.
Clearly, these are reliable statistics and we should always claim it's 50%, because that study is so reliable and accurate.

>I don't know where you're getting this from

>I provided a case study
Do you really want me to link you to a whole bunch of cases in which the rapist was convicted? Or to ones where the rapist got off because, say, the woman was wearing skinny jeans? Do you honestly not think there are a ton of rape cases? Of course not. One high-profile false accusation is *not* evidence for, well, anything.
>>9703683
>Getting raped isn't so bad, I wish someone would rape me!
>rape is just surprise sex, it's not unpleasant or anything!
lol

>> No.9703821

>>9703564
>>The idea that there's a ton of women out there who'd go through all that because they don't like a guy is stupid.

That's what I'm trying to say, they don't *have* to get a conviction to ruin a man's life, especially in the age of google, how many employers are going to hire someone who was accused of rape? All the woman has to do is "Herp derp, dropping charges" and his life is still fucked.

>> No.9703825
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9703825

I'm going to die without your love, anons...

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703833

>>9703791
you know that "asshole" she is having sex with right now? That is me or someone like me. Chances are low she is going to fuck you if she does not respect you. For her respect you are going to have to show some spine.

>> No.9703836

>>9703737
>anyone who actually thinks that oppression and discrimination exist is just, like, a victim fetishist, because discrimination can't possibly exist. Gays have it as good, no, BETTER than straight people, and anyone who denies it is just wanking!
You don't ACTUALLY believe this.

>>9703707
>I wish to discuss a difference in strategy and you make it seem like I am a bigot or a moron.
You're basically a straight guy telling gay people that they're doing it all wrong and need your mighty straight wisdom, and that they should STFU about hate crimes. It's great that you're for GLBTQ rights, but telling people to shut up about hate crimes is not helpful, it just helps people who want to silence them.

>Talking about the beatings others have taken doesn't instill pride. Maybe it does for you, but not for me and my friends.
If you never fucking talk about them, how are you going to do anything about them? How are you going to get anyone to report on them? How are you going to get relevant legislation passed? How are you going to simply acknowledge that there's a problem?

>Imagine if MLK Jr only talked about black people being beaten and never talked about how they will rise from this oppression?
Because it's not like gay activists do anything concrete, right? Oh, wait.

>2nd, Prop 8 was treated right for the most part. But SoCal can fuck a lot up
Like what? What's this whiny, counterproductive activism you keep talking about? Maybe the Maine campaign for gay marriage? The one in Iowa? The push for the hate crimes bill? Do you have any examples other than "I think a lot of activists are, like, too whiny"?

>> No.9703842
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9703842

AND YET I STILL LIVE ON.

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703855
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9703855

If anyone wants actual information- I work at a place where every high position in my department is filled by women. They speak openly about how wonderful it is that they're getting all of the old men out and bringing in strong, bright women. The trouble here is that most of these high position women are recently out of college, their 'strong bright women' are in the same predicament. Anything goes wrong and they start yelling at eachother. The 'old men' that they're trying to get rid of quietly handle the situation, send out a couple emails, and call it a day. It's ridiculous that a federal institution handling your waterways and emergencies would be run this way huh?

>> No.9703861
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9703861

I DO NOT KNOW THE PLEASURE OF CHILDBIRTH...AND I NEVER SHALL

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703862
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>>9703836
I'd just like to honestly say that you are a better troll than any on /new/. Hats off to you.

>> No.9703868
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9703868

>>9703794
Your porn is crappy, women and gays have better tastes in decorating than you, and your song is boring and caps are annoying. How's that do?

Now let's get it on!!!!!

>> No.9703881
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9703881

AND I'M DYING BECAUSE I'LL NEVER HAVE BREASTS

WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703885

>>9703821
>That's what I'm trying to say, they don't *have* to get a conviction to ruin a man's life, especially in the age of google, how many employers are going to hire someone who was accused of rape?
All the ones who think like this on top of all the fair-minded ones, for a start?

>All the woman has to do is "Herp derp, dropping charges" and his life is still fucked.
Bullshit. What happens is that all the people who know him talk about what a great guy he is and how he'd never do that and he talks about how he's being falsely accused and gets a ton of sympathy. This even happens with actual rapists. Guy caught on videotape fucking a totally unconscious chick at a party? His mom was all up ins, talking about what a nice boy her son is.

>>9703833
You know that "asshole" she is having sex with right now? He's not actually an asshole, you just want to paint him as one because he's fucking the girl you want to fuck, and you have no idea what their private relationship is like, and you can bet your ass he's totally sweet to her on a regular basis.

>> No.9703893

To the fa/tg/uy that's trying oh-so hard to make his voice heard, what games do you play? What regard does your group hold you in? Does everyone think you're a cock or is it just me?

>> No.9703895
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>>9703855
Think on the bright side. Sure, life will be hell for westerners in the near future, but when our pathetic civilization crashes and burns on liberal values a new one will rise.

>> No.9703904
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9703904

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WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

>> No.9703906

>>9703862
>If I disagree with it it's trolling
I'd be a pretty shitty troll if I had to post as much or more as the people I'm arguing with.

>>9703855
>My unconfirmable anecdote is totally true and representative.
Funny, because I, too, work in a female-dominated workplace, and it's nothing like that.

>> No.9703923
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WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).>>9703893

>> No.9703929
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>>9703906
Your posts are all the same talking points. That's the brilliance.

>> No.9703930

>>9703895
>OMG, guys, western civilization is, like, totally in peril from the darkies!

>>9703904
Stop spamming. Nobody's going to address your deluded little snit.

>> No.9703937

HERE ARE THE THRILL-SEEKERS.
CORRUPT, AND IMMORAL.

>> No.9703942
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WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).>>9703893

>> No.9703947

>>9703929
Uh... huh. And... what talking points would those be?

>> No.9703950

>>9703895
Tha'ts going to make work a lot easier on monday. Thanks man, I needed that.

>> No.9703957
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WHAT IS ABOUT BEING A WOMAN THAT I DON'T DO EVERYDAY?

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).

I AM TRIVIALIZED FOR BEING A WHITE MALE BISEXUAL.

I AM TREATED AS INFERIOR FOR BEING SLIGHTLY WEAKER AND MORE SUBSERVIENT THAN MOST MEN.

I AM IN AN ENGLISH: CREATIVE WRITING DEGREE AND HAVE NO FUTURE.

A MAN I DO NOT KNOW BASICALLY CONTROLS MY LIFE, AS DO MY FAMILY DUE TO DUTIES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE WORSE AS A FEMALE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE GETTING RAPED (I YEARN FOR CONTACT OF MALES AND FEMALES, ANYWAY) AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB (THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO).>>9703893

>> No.9703977

ITT guys who can't actually argue with a feminist, even a guy, with anything resembling coherence, so they resort to hypersensitive "bawww the menz have it so haaaar" faggotry and trolling the feminist.

Also ITT: a feminist faggot who thinks he will ever accomplish anything by ARGUING ON 4CHAN, WHERE PEDOPHILIA IS NO BIG DEAL AND WHERE THE PEOPLE ARGUING AGAINST FEMINISM ARE MOSTLY UNABASHED MISOGYNISTS WHO FILL THE BOARD WITH MONSTERGIRL AND RAPE THREADS. Holy shit, you idiot, give it a rest. Maybe you can convince normal human beings, but if you're honestly arguing on 4chan you're fucking hopeless.

>> No.9704010
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9704010

>>9703930
Oh dear, no. Darkies are 0 threat, you misunderstand, as would be expected from a fool.

>>9703947
Your insistence that complaining and reveling in victimhood is in any fashion effective tool. Followed by attacking that one anon who's the only one here, or anywhere, willing to give your ridiculous rants any serious consideration.

>> No.9704017

>>9703836

>You're basically a straight guy telling gay people that they're doing it all wrong and need your mighty straight wisdom, and that they should STFU about hate crimes. It's great that you're for GLBTQ rights, but telling people to shut up about hate crimes is not helpful, it just helps people who want to silence them.
>If you never fucking talk about them, how are you going to do anything about them? How are you going to get anyone to report on them? How are you going to get relevant legislation passed? How are you going to simply acknowledge that there's a problem?

I'm not even the guy you are arguing with but damn you are dense aren't you

he never said to never talk about being beaten or suffered discrimination
he said not to make this the focusing about being a victim but to act in order to stop being a victim and fight for your rights, instead of playing victim and going around with "I was beaten up, I need help to have my rights to make me stop from being beaten"

>> No.9704040

>>9703977
More like there's three people arguing rationally, three dozen more acting like cunts, and one, maybe two militant feminists who have never engaged in formal debate.
Fuck it.
COMING IN LIKE A LANDSLIDE
FAST AND HARD AS I CAN~

>> No.9704046

>>9703836
>You're basically a straight guy
Bisexual

>telling people to shut up about hate crimes is not helpful
Sorry, this was a problem in my communication skills. They can talk about it, but they shouldn't have it be the basis of their campaign.

>Maybe the Maine campaign for gay marriage? The one in Iowa?
Done correctly and productively. Make progress through legal means available in all states. As opposed to activists whining.

>The push for the hate crimes bill?
A law that treats people differently under the law is supposed to bolster equality?

>Because it's not like gay activists do anything concrete, right? Oh, wait.
Some do, most don't. Some become active in local, state, and federal politics. These get things done. Others read the same stories that thousands of other activists have read. These people only create animosity towards LGBTs for being "whiny". Creating a public image is more important than people think if you want to get things done.

>How are you going to get relevant legislation passed?
Petitions, voting, mass-mailing political officials. As well as some better Public Image creation.

>How are you going to simply acknowledge that there's a problem?
Report the crime like everybody else. Continually trying to make anything related to your community more important only hurts the push towards equality, which is what this is all about, remember?

>> No.9704058
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9704058

I WANT BLOOD MUD AND POISON
'CAUSE THAT'S THE NATURE OF MAN~

>> No.9704065

>>9704010
>Your insistence that complaining and reveling in victimhood is in any fashion effective tool.
Nobody's shown a single example of this "reveling in victimhood" yet. It sure seems like pointing out problems is getting called "reveling in victimhood".

>>9704017
>to act in order to stop being a victim and fight for your rights,
Like... the way all the people who promoted anti-hate-crime legislation did?

I mean, can you guys show me a single example of the kind of activism you say is so common and bad?

>> No.9704070
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9704070

SO PUT YOUR CAPE AND YOUR GLOVES ON
CLIMB ON TOP OF YOUR ROOF~

>> No.9704092

"that asshole is actually a nice guy in private"

i know a girl who broke up with her boyfriend 2 days before. His response? kidnap her from a few days, rape her continuously, kick her off in the ditch by her house. She musters up the courage to press charges. 1 week later she mysteriously drops the damn charges and goes back out with the fucker for several months. She even had fucking rope marks around her wrists and ankles (she wasn't into bondage either)

What The Fuck. I'm nice as hell and respectfull to the women i date. I hardly ever keep a relationship for more than 3 weeks. I have actually been broken up with because "your just too nice"
WTF

as a woman can you explain this to me. (before you even say this, i understand that they can be lying about me being too nice. whatever...)

>> No.9704093
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9704093

>GLBTQ rights
>...Q rights

Holy shit! What's a Q!?
When did they add a new letter?

>> No.9704094
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9704094

SOME KIND OF HERO
SAVING ME FROM YOU~

>> No.9704105
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9704105

I WILL DESTROY THIS PLACE IF I HAVE TO
KNOCKIN' UP AGAINST THE WALLS OF THE BATHROOM~

>> No.9704117
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9704117

I WILL DESTROY THIS PLACE IF I HAVE TO
SLAMMIN' UP AGAINST THE WALLS OF THE BATHROOM~

>> No.9704134
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9704134

I WILL DESTROY THIS PLACE IF I HAVE TO
KNOCKING UP AGAINST THE WALLS OF THE BATHROOM~

>> No.9704136

>>9704065
Please let me know this.
Are you a troll or an idiot?

>> No.9704143
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9704143

BANGIN' ON YOUR ATOM SHELL
BANG-BANGIN' ON YOUR ATOM SHELL~
BANGIN' ON YOUR ATOM SHELL
BANG BANGIN' ON YOUR ATOM SHELL~

>> No.9704144

>>9704093
Queer or Questioning. The total thing I learned was
LGBTTQQIP

>> No.9704152
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9704152

>>9704065

>I mean, can you guys show me a single example of the kind of activism you say is so common and bad?

wat the ?

Look I don't give a flying fuck about gay rights, but do you know some people who fought for civil rights like Gandhi and and Luther King ?

they didn't get all that far by playing as victims they rose up and got shit done protesting and achieving a strong and positive image for their movements

>> No.9704170

>>9704136

I believe it is the later

>> No.9704171

>>9704152
And this is the proper way to be an activist.

I blame hippies for the change in tactics

>> No.9704172
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>>9704065
It hasn't really been spelled out...so:

Impressions are everything. Believe it or not, discrimination is illegal. You cannot legally discriminate. Discrimination still happens. This only changes as perceptions change. If you honestly think that perceptions change from asshats shrilly shrieking, you don't grasp psychology too well.

You can scream your lungs off, and it only helps you. I makes *you* feel better, but it does nothing to help your cause. Evoking pity might make you feel better, but that is a rather pathetic state of affairs.

Changing opinions and attitudes is everything. And do to that, you have to understand how people think.

Your problems would make a great blues song, I'm sure, listing them will literally do nothing.

>> No.9704193

tl;dr CALL YOUR MOM TOMORROW!!!

/tg/ I am proud of you. Despite all the delicious insanity (and Skeletor makes a good point) and the pathetic sager trying to pick up rough trade there are those holding the line.

Traditional games have more than their fair share of social retards but even here we have those fighting for equal rights for all.

If you take nothing else from this thread, call your mom tomorrow. Women dig that sort of thing. While you are talking ask her if she ever had to eat shit just because she was a woman.

Informed with actual life experience you will be able to contribute to a Sunday night thread that should be EPIC!

And seriously, call your mom if you can.

>> No.9704197

>>9704092
You wear everything about you on your sleeve. There is nothing good we can discover about you at best, at worst we get to find how horrible you are and what varied hatred of things you have. You'll tell us everything about yourself up front within the first week.

You're like a movie that spoils everything redeeming about itself in any advertisement you see, no reason to sit around and see it all turn to shit.

>> No.9704207

>>9704172
>>9704017
>>9704152

Thank god, people who can think rationally. I thought I was going insane lol

>> No.9704222

>>9704092
most importantly, how does one find this.. um.. bad guy?


i kid, i kid.

ah, heck..
>>9704193
seconding.
You dont talk to your mother enough, you know.
of course you know

>> No.9704251

>>9704040
>formal debate
>people on 4chan insisting that men have it so bad
Pick one.

>>9704046
>They can talk about it, but they shouldn't have it be the basis of their campaign.
What campaign are you talking about?

>As opposed to activists whining.
Like *what*?

>A law that treats people differently under the law is supposed to bolster equality?
If you don't even understand why hate crimes legislation is so important... man.

If you don't honestly know why hate crime legislation is good, then you can google better arguments than I can quickly make here pretty easily. Just one of the reasons is that local police often don't *do anything* about, say, trans people being beaten to death, or the "gay panic" defense, and hate crimes legislation gets federal investigators to take a look. Another is that hate violence is akin to terrorism in that it's designed to send a message to the entire gay, trans, whatever community. Finally, the legal system judges people based on motive all the time--for example, first-degree vs second-degree murder.

>Petitions, voting, mass-mailing political officials
...yes, but part of the process is making it clear, on a national-consciousness level, that this shit happens, happens regularly, and happens *here*.

>Report the crime like everybody else.
...to local officials who don't give a shit or are homophobes themselves or will accept the gay panic defense? Matthew Shepard's killers, IIRC, weren't taken in until federal investigators got on the case.

>Continually trying to make anything related to your community more important only hurts the push towards equality,
If gay people don't raise anti-gay hate crimes as an issue, no one will.

>> No.9704258

>>9704193
She let her boyfriend rape me.

Fuck you.

>> No.9704267

>>9704222
yeah, but seriously can you think of a reason. I've been wondering this for a while. I know every woman doesn't have this happen. I can't really talk to her about it (understandably) but i can't fucking grasp why.

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>>9704144
>LGBTTQQIP
So... so many... the gay... isn't gay... it is a rainbow. ;_;

>>9704172
To sum it even more:

Martin L. King said: "I have a dream."

Not "I have a plan, and you guys are jerks."

So what's the dream?

>> No.9704293

>>9704152
>Look I don't give a flying fuck about gay rights, but do you know some people who fought for civil rights like Gandhi and and Luther King ?
Do you honestly think MLK Jr didn't expound on what was wrong? That he and his supporters didn't talk ("whine") about the problems? Do you think he just went "WOO, BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL!" or something?

>>9704172
>This only changes as perceptions change. If you honestly think that perceptions change from asshats shrilly shrieking
I haven't seen asshats shrilly shrieking.

What I HAVE seen is actual discrimination, and concerns thereabout, get passed off as "whining", "masturbating to victimhood", etc. On a regular basis, too.

>> No.9704294
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>>9704267
Women like strong men.

Those who do not, shockingly, are lesbians. Like the one (man pretending to be one) ranting at the moment.

Women despise weak men and any man willing to believe what they say about liking nice guys and the like is a weakling. Any man who takes them when he feels like it is worthy of their affection.

>> No.9704311

>>9699401
umm i'm going to go check some facts, but i belive that male-male rape is pretty common, and becoming more so as time passes. it might surpass male-woman rape.

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>>9704251

well fuck this I'm outta here

it is 5:00 AM and I need to sleep.

please go back from the hole you came from and never leave it again

I could swear you were trolling us but no troll is either that persistent or able to be stupid on that kind of level

>> No.9704316

>>9704267
>as a woman can you explain this to me
First, not a woman.
Second, I can't explain it to you because I don't know you personally. A lot of the guys I know who describe themselves as "Nice Guys" aren't actually very nice.

Maybe you're a doormat, and they're trying to express that tactfully? I was in a relationship with a girl like that once. Some guys would've loved it; I couldn't stand it.

>> No.9704337

>>9704311
Male-on-male rape isn't anywhere near as common as male-on-female rape.
Even if you include prison rape.

>>9704294
>Women like strong men.
>Those who do not, shockingly, are lesbians. Like the one (man pretending to be one) ranting at the moment.
Cool generalizations, Mr. Expert on Women. However did you come to know the mind of every woman everywhree?

>(man pretending to be one)
He's said he's male. He's not pretending to be anything.

>> No.9704350

>>9704312
>I can't actually point out ANY examples of activist groups' whiny counterproductive campaigns, but I will continue to insist that they totally happen all the time and are a major image problem.

>> No.9704364
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>>9704337
Observation + interpretation.

>> No.9704366

>>9704275
>Martin L. King said: "I have a dream."
He said a lot of things.

Including, in that very speech
"But one hundred years later, we must face the tragic fact that the Negro is still not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. So we have come here today to dramatize an appalling condition."
and
"It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check which has come back marked "insufficient funds.""

In the first few paragraphs.

tl;dr MLK did exactly what you say is "whining".

>> No.9704368

>>9704316

first apoligies for assuming you were a woman. Second i know you can't confirm this and will not belive me as this is the internet. but i believe i am not a doormat. i actually offend many women who believe i am demeaning them. I just apologise and change my actions when i am wrong and don't when i truly believe i am right. No one is perfect but i try to be as rational as i can be. Secondly even as a man can you explain the earlier deal since you seem fairly rational, i can't think about it without clouding my mind with rage.

>> No.9704392
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9704392

>>9704366
For one bringing history into the discussion, perhaps you should research the real injustices that blacks faced in the USA.

They make your trite complaints seem like the most trivial of inconveniences.

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9704409

>>9704193
I WILL SUMMON MY MUM FROM THE VERY DEPTHS OF HELL FROM WHERE SHE (sadly) CAN STILL REACH ME TO THIS VERY DAY.

I WILL CALL COLLECT.

MUUUHHHhahahahahahhahaaaaa!

>> No.9704423

>>9704364
>my observations are objective fact. Anyone else's observations, anecdotes, and personal experiences are invalid
What's it like being Jesus?

>>9704368
>Second i know you can't confirm this and will not belive me as this is the internet. but i believe i am not a doormat.
I can't confirm this, and I don't believe you, as this is the internet. Nobody THINKS of themselves as a doormat, you know? Back when I was a doormat, I just thought of myself as a nice, obliging guy, who cared about people and stuff.

>Secondly even as a man can you explain the earlier deal since you seem fairly rational
Stockholm syndrome?
He could have threatened to do even worse if she pressed charges. Someone who's gone through that isn't thinking clearly, obviously--they're too busy suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. Also, women basically get told in situations like that that they deserve it, they were asking for it, that it's her fault, that she provoked him, etc.

Either way, I can't help thinking this isn't a true story, since in cases like that the state can often press charges without the victim's consent.

BTW
>>IT'S SOOOOO EASY TO BE A WOMAN
>i know a girl who broke up with her boyfriend 2 days before. His response? kidnap her from a few days, rape her continuously, kick her off in the ditch by her house. She musters up the courage to press charges.

>> No.9704429

>>9704337

wow thanks for responding like you know what your doing. I also checked the facts and your right.

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>>9704293

>Do you honestly think MLK Jr didn't expound on what was wrong? That he and his supporters didn't talk ("whine") about the problems? Do you think he just went "WOO, BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL!" or something?

I never said that, the point I wanted to make was instead of portraiting yourself and your group as a victims and helpless, show your group as strong and willing to stand for their rights and beliefs while showing it won't put up with shit anymore

it is like kicking the door and saying "I've been beaten humiliated and mistreated I won't take this shit anymore I will do what I must to do in order to get my rights and respect"

and all you say about whine(talk)about the problems is "BAWWW THEY HURT ME BECAUSE I AM DIFFERENT BAWWW IT IS NOT FAIR "

>> No.9704438

>>9704392
>Blacks had it worse, so gays need to STFU about people beating them to death, denying them civil rights, etc.
0/10. Maybe next time you should try saying that someone else in the modern world has it worse?

>> No.9704454

>>9704433
>and all you say about whine(talk)about the problems is "BAWWW THEY HURT ME BECAUSE I AM DIFFERENT BAWWW IT IS NOT FAIR "
I'm sick of this shit. You keep saying this, but you haven't been able to point out who's doing this, exactly. Some random activists you knew once? Whatever, man. All of the official organizations' pushes I've kept informed about haven't been anything like that, including hate crimes legislation.

It really, really looks like you're saying "stop talking about the bad things that happen to you, it's whiny. Never mention it."

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9704458

This thread makes me happy knowing that the majority of people will never hold insane feminist views. But it makes me sad knowing that some do. I guess you could call it a mixed bag.

>> No.9704471

>>9704223
i know you're right about how the state can press charges. unfortunatly the world often times works like this. Guys uncle is a cop and the family is well respected. VS. "white trash" female whose family are mostly drug addicts and convicted felons. someone came around and asked about 3 questions. she dropped it before anything more was done

>> No.9704472
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>>9704438
Plenty have it worse.

You aren't one of them. You are probably enjoying a college education, or already have.

>> No.9704473

>>9704433
So... who's portraying gay people as weak and helpless here?

>> No.9704505

>>9704366
Heh. What he said was: this is WHAT I believe, and this is WHY I believe it. Believe what I believe, and YOU will be better. Much of his audience was white.

Belief -> Message -> Interaction -> Common Goal

You've been telling people: you're wrong, and *people like you* treat people *people like me* badly.

Confrontation -> Belief -> Goal -> More Confrontation

>> No.9704521

>>9704505
>You've been telling people: you're wrong, and *people like you* treat people *people like me* badly.
I haaven't been doing anything of the sort.

>>9704458
>insane feminist views
>Men don't have it sooooo haaaard and sexism is real

wow.

>>9704471
>Guys uncle is a cop and the family is well respected. VS. "white trash" female whose family are mostly drug addicts and convicted felons. someone came around and asked about 3 questions. she dropped it before anything more was done
And you wonder why she fucking dropped it? "My uncle is a cop and nobody will believe you, now do what I say or I'll fucking kill you", maybe?!

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>>9704505
Comparing yourself to the American negro is sickening. I am sorry, but you really do not have real problems compared to them. I do not know you, but I am sure that you really do not have any problem that any person does not have.

>> No.9704534

>>9704505
>Heh. What he said was: this is WHAT I believe, and this is WHY I believe it. Believe what I believe, and YOU will be better. Much of his audience was white.
What he's saying is "This is what the problem is, this is how big it is, and this is what we need to do."
Which is... pretty much what gay activists do.

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>>9704473
>>9704454

as I said I don't give a fuck about gay rights but I will dare to say that the gay pride parade is something positive in favor of gay rights, being cheerful and proud have a much better impact

Malcon X, John Lennon and Yoko, most of the human rights activist from the 60's, hippies against the Vietnam war, the woman's march for the right of vote

they all got shit done, but neither sit up and kept repeating they were just victims, they were but it didn't stop them from chasing their goals

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>>9704521
You don't really have problems.

Most people do not care about your imaginary problems. Most people never will. You enjoy this though, so its all good for everyone.

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>>9704544
>hippies

Oh wow.

>> No.9704593

>>9704534
Nope.

Lot's of people tried to do what King did. They still do. But he was the best. He brought the DREAM and then compared it to reality, and showed where the problems where.

You quote words but not substance. You hammer at us, but we don't feel it.

Don't you want to tell us: people are hurting, and they need you to care. They're a bit different from you or I, but not that much... and we have friends and family who feel that sting.

They need us, just like we need them.

>> No.9704617

>>9704544
>I will dare to say that the gay pride parade is something positive in favor of gay rights
Meanwhile, other people say it's harming the movement by flaunting it/shoving it in people's faces.

Can't do any kind of activism without privileged people telling you you're doing it wrong.

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>>9704617
>privileged

Bwahahaha.

Thats me, WAPSy, using my privilege to get ahead!

Grow up.

>> No.9704644

>>9704593
>Don't you want to tell us: people are hurting, and they need you to care. They're a bit different from you or I, but not that much
Yes that is clearly an argument that will work wonders on 4chan.

For the record, that is basically what all the "don't pass amendments against gay marriage!" campaigns DID.

>> No.9704665

>>9704642
Straight people telling gay activists how they should be going about it... you know, because they know so much about activism and discrimination and all... is exactly that.

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fuck this shit

do whatever you want I don't give a fuck it is your fail anyway not mine

>> No.9704762

>>9704521

well, you sir are vastly underestimating how humans work. i don't think we got this far by always quitting when faced with death. and don't bullshit me with all this crap. you sound like the kind of person who is all for survival of the fittest (educated evolution) while supporting all kinds of social welfare programs, and the justice system and whatever. the whole world is full of hypocrisy. thanks for proving that your right there with the rest of us

>> No.9704765

>>9704644
Aaaaand you just sank your own ship.

Yeah, 4chan really is a hellish nightmare scape, ain't it? And what record? Yours? Mine?

This isn't something you "win" this is something you make me feel. Or not.

And gay marriage is slowly coming to the states, religious nuttery notwithstanding. Most of Europe is very accepting, and Canada was pretty easy going. So... it's more than the sum of it's parts, but 4chan is still a part of it.

Porn filled, pedobear having, neckbeard waving 4chan.

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