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I don't see a morrowind discussion thread going on.

Morrowind discussion thread? Discuss some Morrowind.

Hand-to-hand is terrible.

>> No.8423120
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8423120

For some reason, I love Morrowind but can't play it, and hate Oblivion but it's more accessible to me.

>> No.8423123

It just isn't as sugarcoated as in other games.

>> No.8423141

>>8423120
I love both, but tried to play Morrowind the other day, and couldn't. Got past Fargoth (would someone post that image where the guy makes a guy that looks exactly like Fargoth and BECOMES Fargoth?) and then felt...nothing.

>> No.8423152

does anyone have a list of must have mods for morrowind?

>> No.8423157

>>8423120
Morrowind requires at least 5 levels before the game becomes "playable" for me. Meaning, I can cast spells that can kill something and it doesn't take a full magic bar, or I can actually hit things in melee combat. Oblivion was kind of the opposite, early on, it's like "Fuck yeah this is awesome, I love the combat, stealth requires you to actually sneak instead of just go upstairs where nobody's looking!" but then later on it's "WHY DOES EVERYTHING TAKE SO LONG TO KILL?" because of level scaling.

>> No.8423199

Try to kill anything in Oblivion with a bow, unless you're sneaking. Shit takes ages.

>> No.8423238

>>8423199
Poison, but then you still need to spend a week finding shit to make a poison that does actual HP damage and not CHA damage or some shit like that.

>> No.8423300

Reinstalled yesterday. I think I'll finally beat Tribunal.

>> No.8423308

>>8423238
Try killing anything with a bow, at level 20. Even with poison. Enjoy standing on a rock for 5 minutes.

>> No.8423315

>>8423300
Tribunal had the best ending.

>> No.8423322

>>8423157
You were playing wrong. "I just duped 500 Strong Health Potions" is the only fun class.

>> No.8423356

>>8423157
That's pretty much the same as me. You can overcome it (in Oblivion) by tweaking the difficulty scale thing, but then you feel like a douche playing on the easy setting

>> No.8423376

I killed a Daedra Lord with my fists today, Niisan.

>> No.8423455

I've tried playing afew different ways, I'm still hesitant to try a hand-to-hand Monk because of the way it works in Morrowind. It was so fun to use in Oblivion though, I'd say its better than sword for just raw dps.

>> No.8423457
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Oblivion with mods > Morrowind with mods

There, I said it.

>> No.8423483

>>8423455
Hand to hand in Oblivion was awesome.

You basically need the improved hand to hand mod for it to be even slightly feasible in Morrowind. Especially since most creatures even rats have over 300 fatigue, compared to the 100 or so that an NPC will have.

>> No.8423510

/tg/ = /v/

>> No.8423535

>>8423510
http://elderscrollspnp.forumotion.com/index.htm

Fixed.

>> No.8423538

>>8423457
If you play it for pornographic purposes maybe. Otherwise there are just to many issues I have with it

>> No.8423568

>>8423538
...there are other reasons to play it...?

>> No.8423583

>>8423568
Not really, as opposed to Morrowind.

>> No.8423615

>>8423105
Hand to hand would rule, if you could enchant gloves with 'on striking' effects. OR just bind fucking Vivec into your fists.

>> No.8423631

>>8423615
Vivec on your right fist, Almalexia on your left.

>> No.8423640

>>8423615

If only enchanted gauntlets, bracers and gloves worked that way. You could punch your way to Dagoth Ur

>> No.8423641

>>8423631
Dagoth Ur on the left foot then. Who gets the right?

>> No.8423654

>>8423615
Y'know, alot of people seem to swear by "on strike" effects. They annoy the fuck out of me, and are usually not all that usefull outside of absorb health either.

>> No.8423665

>>8423640
Wasn't there a mod a while back that added some gloves and gauntlets that worked as weapons, tied to HtH?

>> No.8423673

>>8423641
Sotha sil's construct.

>> No.8423675

Is there a reason why anyone lives on Vvardenfell except for the mining? Seems pretty shitty and inhospitable. Then there's the Ashlanders.

>> No.8423681

>>8423615
It's too bad they never even TRY to get hand-to-hand working like that
It was still pretty easy to abuse in Morrowind, but took long as fuck
Then in Oblivion after you get the stats high enough the only way you can increase HtH damage was buffing fatigue or strength if I remember right
And speaking of things that Oblivion does WHY DID ENCHANTED ITEMS NOT RECHARGE ON THEIR OWN JESUS THAT WAS ANNOYING

>> No.8423696

>>8423654
I've been getting a real kick out of Damage Strength/Damage Intelligence on Target spells and then running away giggling. Possibly Damage Agility later for never being hit.

>> No.8423702

>>8423675
Not so much, but mining for resources is a pretty good reason to live somewhere.
Especially if we're talking the glass and ebony from wich they make armor, wich is pretty rare.

>> No.8423704

>>8423654
Paralysis, one second.
Blind.
Drain/Damage Endurance/Strength.
X type of damage and weakness to X for 1s
There are a lot of useful effects that can be employed in this way, from hampering or interrupting your opponent to renewing your defenses.

>> No.8423712

>>8423675
A sandy asscrack uninhabitable? Well most of towns aren't that close to the Red Mountains, and vegetation seems lush along the south and and cost.

>> No.8423723

I'm gonna call troll on OP,
1/10 because it made me rage enough to post.

H2H is the shit, first off.
Second, isn't this /v/ stuff?

>> No.8423747

>>8423675
A lot more of it used to be habitable before Dagoth Ur started his shit, plus, it's a holy island. You're going to get a lot pilgrims who settle down.

>> No.8423760

>>8423675
Some areas are pretty nice, though. East and south coasts for one, if you don't mind fireballs, necrotic abominations, deamons, mindrape 100 for 10s and all those other sweet Telvanni gimmicks flying around.

>> No.8423828

Daedric Dai-Katana, fuck year.

>> No.8423843

>>8423723
>Second, isn't this /v/ stuff?

You must be new, here.

>> No.8423852

>>8423828
Fuck your weaboo shit. Daedric Greatsword, FUCK YEAR

>> No.8423860

>>8423704
>Paralysis, one second.
Valid, but I prefer making a spell for 3 to however many seconds I can afford magicka-wise.
>Blind.
Never noticed it did anything on npcs.
>Drain/Damage Endurance/Strength.
Why bother? extra damage will kill them faster. Dead people don't attack.
>X type of damage and weakness to X for 1s
This one is actually usefull too, yeah.

>> No.8423934

>>8423860
Blind affects their to-hit rolls, similar to sanctuary.
Drain/Damage attribute enchants are most useful od daggers and tantos, as you don't have to make full swings for max damage, just stabstabstabstabstab. This allows you to fight much stronger opponents while still in the lows.
Paralysis one give you the luxury of having your opponent immobilized for as long as you hit him, which is way longer than you could manage with spells.

>> No.8423966

Enchant a piece of armor with: Restore fatigue 12 points

Never worry about fatigue again. It makes the game much more enjoyable.

>> No.8423993

>>8423966
Unless you have a mod installed that does anything with fatigue or fight unarmed npcs regularly, I'd say you just wasted an enchantment slot.

>> No.8424027

>>8423993
What

Everything in the game is affected by fatigue.

>> No.8424062

>>8424027
Really now?
Never noticed, wich by itself speaks volumes about just how big it's influence is.

>> No.8424092

>>8424062
If you're low on fatigue, you will never hit your target. Your spell failure chance greatly increases, dodge rates go down, etc. Fatigue affects everything.

>> No.8424095

1. Punch rats
2. Level 100 Hand to Hand
3. ???
4. PROFIT!

>> No.8424107
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>> No.8424158

Guy working on the mod here.

What difficulty would you like this quest to be? I have some ideas but then I realized they'd be way too difficult for low level characters, or melee characters in general. I can tone it down some.

How I had it, slowfall, and jump/levitate were basically necessary.

>> No.8424184

>>8423852
>>8423828

You're both smalltime. Daedric spear up in this bitch.

>> No.8424196

>>8424184
Sheogorath spear was here. Infinitely superior. Just because of how bad ass I look.

>> No.8424215

>>8424196

Fuck yeah! That spear is awesome. Sadly, it's durability isn't that high up.

>> No.8424219

>>8424092
>If you're low on fatigue,
>you will never hit your target.
Huh? sounds like you didn't train your weapon skill or agility enough.
>Your spell failure chance greatly increases
Spell failure also depends on how high level spells we're talking. And general consensus has been that high level spells<Low level spell spam.
>dodge rates go down,
Sorry, but I've never really noticed this all that much. Guess it's because I'm an agility-whore.
>etc. Fatigue affects everything.
About in the same way luck does, then. Wich is not all that much.

>> No.8424232

>>8424215
Doesn't really need durability. I enchanted an amulet with fortify spear, 24 points (Which puts me at 70) and that spear can kill things in two hits. I'm currently doing the bloodmoon storyline, because at the end you get the Huntsman's spear, best spear in the game.

>> No.8424253

>>8424232
Only if you pick the right aspect. Not that I've ever found a reason not to, though.

>> No.8424254

>>8424219
You've obviously not played Morrowind more than one time. Start a new character with any weapon as a major skill, find a weapon of that type, jump around until you have no fatigue and go try to hit any NPC.

>> No.8424283

I always wanted to get back into morrowind but could never pick what class I wanted.

>> No.8424288

>>8424219

Fatigue, like every other stat, greatly affects all you do at the beginning of the game. Once you're a level 20+ demigod with a pile of alchemy potions, of course you stop worrying about stat influence on you, because shit dies fast regardless of them.

>> No.8424314

>>8424254
Actually, I've played fighter characters a-plenty.
Yes, you'll not hit a lot of opponents at low levels, but that's the goddamn standard. Once your weapon skill hits 60+ (wich is relatively quickly if you focus on it) those problems are over.

>> No.8424343

>>8424283
Just make a class, pick skills you like.

>> No.8424355

>>8424232

Well, I looked it up. Holy shit, that is a hell of a beast. Never played Bloodmoon past that werewolf attack on that fort, so didn't know of it. Guess now I'll have to try and get my hands on it.

So far, I'm doing rather fine with my Bound Spear, that I made permanent via some kind of repair glitch. It somehow granted me 10 extra spear skill regardless of whether it is equipped or not, and 10 when I equip it. So... that's 20 spear skill.

>> No.8424404

>>8424355
Seriously.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Spear_of_the_Hunter
Cast When Strikes
Paralyze for 10sec on Touch

Burden 50pts for 10 seconds on Touch
Poison 4pts for 5sec on Touch

>> No.8424506

>>8424404

This weapon will really bite back in the ass when fighting mobs with spell reflect though. So many times getting paralyzed by my Daedric Crescent or getting lifedrained by my lifedraining daedric dai-katana of whoop-ass, jesus fuck...

>> No.8424531

So it turns out two of my major ideas for this mod, aren't going to work. 1: I can't start the player above ground, when you use a door and 2: If you fall into nothingness, you just re appear on solid ground. Fuck this is going to take longer than I had hoped.

>> No.8424559

>>8424404
I must have been the only person in the world who took the Amulet of Strength, mostly because I'd maxed out Medium Armour, Heavy Armour, Long Blade, Axe, Blunt Weapon, Marksman and Armorer on my first character, and I needed the carrying capacity more than another weapon type to kill with. Zoltan the Unintrusive was the best Nord in the world.

>> No.8424590

>>8424506
Playing a magic character now, and man, was making a 50ft destructive spell a bad idea against daedra and atronachs.

>> No.8424631

>>8424590
The only way to make that work is nords and ice-based spells.
Also, 50 ft? dayum.

>> No.8424656

>>8424631
It's my preferred choice for getting rid of groups of cliff racers. Or groups of anything, really.

>> No.8424744
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50 ft has it's place.

pic related.

>> No.8424823

>>8424744
At least those aren't were-cliff racers.

>> No.8424826

>>8424744
fuck 50ft radius, only Red Mountain erupting again can save you now.

>> No.8424833
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>>8424823
>were-cliffracers

>> No.8424885

>>8424833
Imagine, venturing into a seemingy normal time, the townspeople all being friendly, if a little distant. You rest at the inn after the long adventure, spending time in the tavern and deciding to resupply at the local store in the morning.

Then, you hear sounds... the sounds of a thousand beating wings. Every villiager has turned into a twisted, horrible mockery of their human form, their flapping wings blocking out the night sky.

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.8424916

>>8424885
BAD END

>> No.8424947
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>>8424744
Could always be worse. Imagine seeing this when you first finished a new character.

>> No.8424961

>>8424947
Time to punch someone in the dick.
Whoever is within hands range, really.

>> No.8424983
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>> No.8424985

>>8424947
run awaaaaaaaaaay!!

>> No.8425561

>>8424947
1. Get steed birthsign
2. Run
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!

>> No.8426220

>>8425561
YOu think you can outrun a dragon?

>> No.8426510
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>>8426220
100 Athletics?
100 Acrobatics?
Yes.

>> No.8426548

>>8426220
I don't need to outrun the dragon, I just need to outrun my companions.

Seeya, suckers!

>> No.8426568

I know, right? Horse sign is awesome.

Unarmed, unarmored, Speed and Willpower

I am the monk. All your endurance are belong to me. Prepare for a brutal ass-kicking.

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Who else used the sign of the Tower and just broke into everything after getting out into the world?

>> No.8426797

>>8426781
I never did anything but warrior or thief birthsigns. Overpowered, woo!

>> No.8426896

Make a shirt with Open Locks 100
Advicedog.jpg
Break into Redoran Vaults and get awesome armor and shitloads of money

>> No.8427301

>>8426896
I think you need some pretty outrageous amounts of money to make that shirt in the first place.

>> No.8427510

>>8426797

Bitches don't know 'bout my Imperial with the Lady, bonus in Stealth, and Speechcraft as a primary skill. You can walk out the door with 80 personality.

>> No.8427544

>>8427510
Personality? Pssh, I'd rather gain a 10% chance of all melee attacks missing me, no matter what. If I want personality, I can wear The mask of clavicus vile and slather on some Telivanni bug musk. Bam, problem solved forever.

>> No.8427590

I always like using the Atronach birthsign. Does anyone else? I figure, Magicka can't regenerate passively like in Oblivion anyways, and I'm gonna be carting around enough magicka potions to something witty, so I may as well go with the birthsign that gives me a ton of extra magicka and a 50% chance to eat enemy spells.

>> No.8427912
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Tell me, do you hear anything? The whistling wind, perhaps? The faint murmur of your computer going about it's calculations? Do not look over your left shoulder, gentlemen, for you may find the knowledge terrifying.

Scum.

>> No.8428480

>>8427590
Make Drain Intelligence 100 spell for 1 second on self
Use it, Intelligence is now 0
Magicka is also at 0, but counts as 100% of max magicka
Spell wears off, 100% is still counted
Enjoy full magicka refill even with Atronach sign

>> No.8428671

>>8427590
Especially useful if you plan to be a straight warrior and swear off ever touching magic. No negatives!

>> No.8428841

>>8428671

This is true. Atronach is invaluable for any class. Can't disarm a trap? Just have a heal/potion ready just in case. Also helps with later on if you start to take an interest in magic.

>> No.8428873

>>8427590
BRING IT ON
advicenerevar.jpg
YOUR SPELLS ARE DELICIOUS

>> No.8428905

>>8427590

>Magicka can't regenerate passively like in Oblivion anyways

I downloaded mods to fix that.

>> No.8428939

>>8424184
Everything is small time. Sunder up in this bitch.

Seriously. That motherfucker, on the proper character, could one shot almost everything. Everything else was two shot.

>> No.8429004

House Hlaalu here, Redoran and Telvanni are faggots.

>> No.8429007

>>8428841
Throw on Necromancer's amulet and bump it up to 75% absorb rate! As an added benefit, the amulet even restores magicka! wooo!

>> No.8429028

>>8424744

Jesus, my game just crashed and it's not even installed. I didn't know you could get that many cliffuckers at once on the entire island.

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>>8423105
>Hand-to-hand is terrible.
FFFFFFFFF-
Tell me about it. I just leveled a Nord Monk specializing in ONLY this until I hit 100 Hand-to-hand. At this point I promptly started leveling Blunt Weapon. Likewise, I used Unarmored until I hit 100 with that. He's at 50 now, I just completed the main quest, and have begun slightly leveling light and medium armor. It's been an interesting experience though, very different from my usual acrobatics/short blade/light armor steal-everything-that-is-stealable character archetype.

ORACLE QUESTAN
DAEDRIC QUESTAN
ARTIFACT HUNTAN
INTERIOR DECORATAN

>> No.8429088

>>8429004
Enjoy your shit quest rewards. Telvanni all the way. Even if I'm a fighter.

Not as bad as Redoran quests, though.
GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FUCKING CONTINENT, FIND A CAVE. KILL EVERYTHING IN IT, COME BACK WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
GOOD JOB, HERE'S FIVE BUCKS.

Telvanni quest:
I need some soap. There's a store that sells it halfway down the road. Here's money to buy the soap with. Thanks, here's two powerful magic items you'll probably be using for the majority of the game.

>> No.8429101

I actually liked the original H2H. You could beat the shit out of people who caught you stealing without having to kill them, then loot their body and run.

H2H mod is really nice though.

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>>8428939
>Everything is small time. Sunder up in this bitch.
Oh god tell me about it. 10-70 damage on chop, +30 attack, +20 strength, +20 luck.

>> No.8429110

>>8429107
With a speed of 1.5! God damn!

>> No.8429131

Thisgameisuglyandstupidplaysomethingbeter.

>> No.8429142

>>8429131

Youareahomosexualwholikesmen.

>> No.8429143
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>>8429131
go fuck yourself

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>>8429131
Take it to an anti-morrowind thread, or possibly an Oblivion thread.

OH WAIT, THERE AREN'T ANY

>> No.8429367

>>8429142
Isn't that redundant? Because homosexuals are people attracted to the same sex, calling him one would <imply that he enjoyed men in that fashion.

I'd rather go with Youareahomosexualwholikesgoatsandothersmallmamals.

>> No.8429386
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>>8429367
It's a gay slander version of DOUBLE NIGGER

You, you...DOUBLE FAGGOT

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>>8429386
I've been corrected, I thought I had DOUBLENIGGER.jpg, but I do not. Have a random gif instead.

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>>8423141
late, but here for you fa/tg/uy

>> No.8429551

>>8429367
but only male goats, with their supple haunches and graceful scrotums.

...what?

>> No.8429552

Sunder is small time.

Ebony Arrows of Slaying were here.

>> No.8430191

>>8429552
Oh god, those can break the mainquest. Who needs sunder to destroy the heart, one arrow of slaying is blow it up. What's that you say? It breaks the script so dagoth ur stays immortal? Well, arrow of slaying him too!

>> No.8430239

>>8423510
Oh god no, you guys are way better than us.

>> No.8430273

>>8423535
Wow, those guys are actually getting shit done.

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