Quantcast
[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / g / ic / jp / lit / sci / tg / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports / report a bug ] [ 4plebs / archived.moe / rbt ]

/vt/ is now archived.Become a Patron!

/tg/ - Traditional Games


View post   

[ Toggle deleted replies ]
File: 104 KB, 181x355, Yall+s+need+the+emprah+_8e139f2911103a166e5286287a629d1d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78019485 No.78019485 [Reply] [Original] [4plebs] [archived.moe]

Have you ever felt that someone doesn't 'get' Warhammer 40k?

The Imperium are not "based", Chaos is not "fun", Tau are not "the good guys", Tyranids are not "cute", Necrons are not "cool"

Virtually every faction in 40k represents some horrible 'bad ending' for humanity, be it decay into a system of every negative political ideology combined, unstoppable alien invasion, invincible robot AI skeletons or the literal forces of hell

>> No.78019535

>>78019485
No nigga.
It's literally made to be taken both ways.

Half of the playerbase are 12 years old and don't like subtext.
Half of the playerbase are autistic 30 year olds that eat up subtext.

The setting is written for both, because both spend money on stupid plastic shit and crappy dimeback books.

>> No.78019536

>>78019485
How is that not based, fun or cool? I think you might be taking the setting too seriously if you think it's some high concept philosophical piece and focus on the tragedy instead of thinking it's just wax poetic backing up some 80's metal action.

>> No.78019544

>>78019485
Orks and Mechanicus ARE cute though

>> No.78019590

>>78019485

>Virtually every faction in 40k represents some horrible 'bad ending' for humanity,

Yeah, but remember that this was concieved in 80s Britain and all of the above is expressed by taking the piss out of it.
Of course, some people look at sarcastically expressed terrible ideas and think "you know what, that looks legitimately like how I see the world".

>> No.78019602

>>78019485
People like you are so fucking depressing.
Yes, everyone knows that these aren't good societies. WHO FUCKING CARES, WE DON'T LIVE IN THEM.
If you watch a movie about a depressed person and like the movie, does that make you a psycho who supports depression? NO, because we're not fucking responsible for the things that happen in fiction beyond the emotional stimulation, you absolutely retarded fucking troglodyte.

>> No.78019604
File: 93 KB, 500x535, 1395959987105.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78019604

>>78019485
Perhaps it's not that Chaos isn't fun.
Perhaps it's YOU that's not fun.

>> No.78019672

>>78019485
Everything that is popular and isn't Harry Potter tier nomiebait that is pure face value needs to operate on multiple levels.
There's always
>MUH LORE
>but also cute girls!
or
>muh gritty ultraviolent edge!!
>but also memes!
everything is like that
it's even a thing in marketing, you can plan a product to appeal to multiple audiences at the same time

>> No.78019687

>>78019536
>>78019535
Never said it had to be high philosophy or whatever
But creating a funko-pop of a mutant child soldier of a totalitarian ultra-religious communist/fascist/anarchist superstate is pretty fucked up

The Imperium is not the Empire from Star Wars. A big point is how comically exaggerated it is in terms of atrocities. It would be like having a toy of Heinrich Himmler but painted in bright happy colours

>>78019544
Orks have always been the comic relief

>> No.78019733

>>78019672
Yeah, but something about trying to make an amalgam of all the worst governments ever combined into a place that anyone would ever want to live, even for marketing purposes, is kinda fucked up
Stuff like Star Wars / Star Trek can get away with it, but this just ends up making communism / fascism / anarchism / cultism look... "based"

>> No.78019859

>>78019485
Yes, and having fun with all of those things is the point of the game. But I do agree that people miss a lot of the points of the setting on a regular basis, including the creators.

>> No.78019878

>>78019733
You may be retarded.

>> No.78019988

>>78019485
>People don't even UNDERSTAND how DEEP and PROFOUND my setting written to sell plastic toys is
Go outside, anon.

>> No.78020028
File: 91 KB, 689x459, ED90DF01-5A18-44C7-BB3C-B116E3FECB46.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78020028

>>78019485
But The Imperium is "based", Chaos is "fun", Tau are "the good guys", Tyranids are "cute", Necrons are "cool".

>> No.78020922

>>78019485
I feel like you're taking this shit too seriously mate. The game's fun and the lore is crazy sometimes but it's not anything to get upset over lmao. If you're getting mad over this sort of thing you should go touch grass.

>> No.78020940

>>78019687
But creating a funko-pop of a mutant child soldier of a totalitarian ultra-religious communist/fascist/anarchist superstate is pretty fucked up
There is a funko of literally everything. Also you know Darth Vader is basically space Hitler right?

>> No.78020986
File: 14 KB, 272x185, theemprha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78020986

Dude who gives a shit it is a game about moving plastic toys and rolling dice, let people have fun.

>> No.78021025

>>78019485
Not really. The fact is, Warhammer 40k is so fucking over the top in how awful and horrible everything is, that it can be pretty hard to take as seriously as some people would prefer.

>> No.78021027

>>78019485
Dude calm down, its just a children's game about painting plastic army men

>> No.78021029

>>78020986
No, it's a pipeline to the alt right and must be dismant

>> No.78021045

>>78020940
Dude just find me some actual basis for the "vader is space hitler"meme. A dude being evil doesnt make him hitler, if we learned Vader was running some final solution for sandpeople then i could roll with it.

>> No.78021060

>>78021045
He straight up killed sand people in the prequels, for fucked sake he slaughtered children.

>> No.78021123

>>78021060
Sand People have no redeeming qualities though.

>> No.78021191

>>78021060
Again, he's not running empire propaganda teaching the populace of the evils of the sandfolk. He never ran a genocide, he never overspent his military in pointless ego posturing. He was a totalitarian at worst. He's an evil magic space knight.

>> No.78021206
File: 49 KB, 625x474, 1479969383211.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78021206

>>78019485
Sometimes I get the feeling absolutely no one alive or dead or undead groks 40k, including you and me. And specially the people hired by GW.

Less jokingly, nerds are worse than the actual christians I know in their need for a supreme canon that all people must adhere to.

>> No.78021278

>>78019878
He's posting on /tg/ brah

>> No.78021312

>>78021191
My point is there are worse characters that get turned onto funko pops. I used Vader as an example because he's so well known.

>> No.78021368

>>78021029
I think you are confusing 4chan and its downward spiral to retardation, rather than warhammer 40k.

>> No.78021375

>>78021368
*with, not rather.

>> No.78021442

>>78021060
Sand “people” aren’t.

#anakindidnothingwrong

>> No.78021466

>>78021029

Back to
>>>>>tumblr

>> No.78021604
File: 893 KB, 1740x1237, taxes and death.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78021604

Those are all the reasons why it's cool though. It's extremely cool that a million men slave themselves to death to create statues of long dead saints, and then in three hundred years they all get eaten by monsters crawling in the ruins of their venerable icons. You're not supposed to get all introspective and moody about it, horrific grimdark suffering is excellent backround noise for two cool dudes to fight with chainsaws.

>> No.78021850

>>78021029
This is some low ball false flag.

>> No.78021947

>>78019485
If someone is into casict tyranical systems he will love imperium
If someone is a loner wanting everyone to suffer, he will love chaos
If hes a commie, Tau is his shit
ect ect

Warhammer is only bad if youre a libertarian cuck who treats blacks and women as people, and wants everybody to have equal rights and be free to speak their minds yadda yadda.

Germans in 1939? Would eat that Emperor propaganda like pancakes.
So no. YOU don't get 40k, other people do

>> No.78021974

>>78019485
We know, we just don't care.

Also the tau aren't good guys, they're chinks, lol.

>> No.78022063

>>78019485
I don't think YOU get 40k. Remember that Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clouseau is still canon. 40k is not a serious setting.

>> No.78022142

>>78022063
Night that was in the very first edition, shits changed over the last 30 years

>> No.78023892
File: 57 KB, 530x388, fem tyranid 3_c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78023892

>>78019485
>Tyranids are not "cute"
I beg to differ.

>> No.78023936

>>78019485
It's a toy commercial

>> No.78024529
File: 60 KB, 640x536, 1615467651811.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78024529

>>78019485
My thoughts summed up

>> No.78024797

>>78019485

Dystopian settings can have a sense of humour, anon

>> No.78026989

>>78019485
eldar hands wrote this post

>> No.78027004

>>78019485
yes, you
you also seem to not get people or the fact opinions cannot be removed from their contexts

>> No.78027005

40k sux

>> No.78027131

>>78021060
Oh no, think of the imaginary children.

>> No.78027208

>>78022142
The spirit is still there at GW - early AoS showed that with the daft stuff on the early warscrolls. Difference is that it wasn't as understated, and also I think they forgot that funny injokes and roleplay from your gaming circle don't necessarily travel too well outside it.

>> No.78027232

>>78023892
That picture is pure pile of shite.

>> No.78027241

>>78024797
Yes, but it seems there are way too many retards who forgot the humour side and take it seriously.

>> No.78027266

>>78019485
I disagree. A fundamentally religious, highly conservative society which rejects change and modernity in general is the best-case win condition for humanity. No liberals, no trannies, no people who think that new things are good. That's where we need to go as a species.

>> No.78027279

>>78019485
>Chaos is not "fun"
I think it is if you're a demon. Like a nurgling, horror or daemonette. But since they're not fallen humans it's not like falling to chaos would be a goos idea. Being a demon seems fun exactly because you're fucking with mortals.

>> No.78027330

>>78027266
Fuck off, that is how you make sure humanity dies. You are basically playing into hands of trannies, liberals and people who like new things and want humanity dead.

>> No.78027365

>>78019485
Purging deviant heretics with flame IS based though

>> No.78027382

>>78027365
Nah, redeemer and his lot are so pathetic that even SoB make fun of them in universe.

>> No.78027398

>>78019485
You say imperium is not based. Ok i can understand it, even throught the more totalitarian you are the more based you get.
Chaos is fun for chaos cultists and demons however, ofcorse its horific fun, but fun nontheless.
Tau are hivemind so they are shit
Tyranids are less fun orcs
But by the love of God, Necrons are fucking coolest thing in warhammer. Ambient Egyptian zombie terminators are awesome, and you cant change my mind
Also Warhammer should not be taken seriously. I gm it to have fun and so do my players.

>> No.78028592

>>78019733
actually star trek is 1000x more retarded then warhammer

>> No.78028606

>>78021029
looks like you are a totalitarian commie and literally worse then Hitler and warhammer's Imperium

>> No.78028747
File: 30 KB, 500x390, 40k pic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78028747

>> No.78028762
File: 156 KB, 1134x741, 40k Eldar!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78028762

>>78028747
both pics are equally valid

>> No.78028783

>>78019485
No one cares fag, I'm too busy having fun with it

>> No.78028919

>>78019485
>Tyranids are not "cute"
Women play Tyranids only. Change my mind.

>> No.78028931

>>78019733
Based means going against a perceived status quo and being a madlad about it to the point of total analhilation.

>> No.78028941

>>78021029
Imagine the Right is the alternative to fascism in 2021.
/pol/ extends their gratitude.

>> No.78028955

>>78021060
Sand people were allied with Hitler. Hitler got the genocide idea from the Turks.

>> No.78028972

>>78024797
Judge Dredd had if you're into Britbong.

>> No.78029003

>>78028919
I met too many women who play orks and nids and lizardmen.

>> No.78029089

>>78029003
I have never seen anything but Tyranidettes but I'll take your word.

>> No.78029243

>>78019687
>It would be like having a toy of Heinrich Himmler but painted in bright happy colours
that would be extremely based. Sell it on airports where planes from Israel arrive

>> No.78029309
File: 2.01 MB, 576x576, 1610065476750.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78029309

>>78019485
I think most people understand that 40k is grimdark. You aren't smart for realizing this. People aren't dumb for taking it less seriously than you. In fact, it's a bit silly that you think people shouldn't find nids cute or necrons cool. I personally think spiders are cute. Webm related. And about necrons not being cool. Really? Do you understand what fiction is? Any real moral issues associated with necrons don't stop them from being cool. Even real world stuff is like that. The crusades are cool and they actually happened in reality. Even more recent, WWI and WWII are cool. Yeah, lots of people died, tragic events and all that, but that doesn't mean they weren't also cool.

>> No.78029373
File: 26 KB, 625x372, 1281760871552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78029373

>>78019485
>Have you ever felt that someone doesn't 'get' Warhammer 40k?
Yes I'm replying to his post right now.

what a fuckin retard

>> No.78029382

>>78019687
>Orks have always been the comic relief
>completely miss the subtext of the orks and still try to pretend he has an IQ above 80

>> No.78029387

>>78019485
The Empire is based though, given the circumstances. idk what to tell you bud

>> No.78029428

>>78019485
>The Imperium are not "based"
And that's where you're wrong kid.
>Virtually every faction in 40k represents some horrible 'bad ending' for humanity
Yes, and the Imperium is based.

>> No.78029646

>>78029089
Ya, few ladies I play TRPGs with had played guard in third ed and in younger generations it seems it's either orks or nids.

>> No.78029696
File: 385 KB, 780x532, techpriest bear.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78029696

>>78019485
>The Imperium are not "based"
Yes it is, for precisely the reasons you hate it, you braindead cretin.

Mechanicus is better, though.

>> No.78029730

>>78029696
Imperium is made to be hated by all, if you are fachist retard you would be shot for being not woke enough, if you are centrist you get shot for being too woke, if you are woke you are shot for not being retarded enough. Basically, you can't win that one and you are retarded for thinking it's "based"

>> No.78029736

>>78029730
>fachist
Braindead/ESL faggot. Kill yourself.

>> No.78029744

>>78029736
I am sorry your retarded language got no letters for proper normal sounds.

>> No.78029778

>>78029730
>Imperium is made to be hated by all

And that's why it's based, anon. Not all of us need to empathize with things to think they're cool. How many people unironically support Skynet; now how many people liked the Terminator more for the Terminator than Kyle or Sarah.

>> No.78030288

>>78020028
Beat me to it.

>> No.78030302

>>78029778
Well I get that, however if you call imperium "based" you are most likely someone who doesn't it, because term is only used to newfags or retards.

>> No.78030366

>>78019535
Hate to say I agree. 40k's evolution from anti-thatcher satire, to the realm of edge lords, to finally breaking into the main stream has always ultimately been about the money. The setting is in the end what you make of it so make something you won't be ashamed of.

>> No.78030394

>>78019485
>The Imperium are not "based"
That'a where you're wrong, kiddo

>> No.78030653

>>78028762
Nonsense fantasy lore that has nothing to do with actual politics

>> No.78030697

>>78019485
The Imperium are objectively the good guys. Maybe a lib retard like thinks progress is always good, but once you've reached a perfect society then complete enforcement of tradition and culture becomes necessary because any change will only make things worse

>> No.78030701

>>78029730
>Everyone would be shot in the imperium
Anon, you're retarded. The imperium has trillions of citizens, on worlds with radically different cultures. Some worlds are literally stone age barbarians and others are literally medieval, and others are Trantor megacities whose lowest layers are beyond all law and filled with chaos cults who operate almost in the open. It is a feudal society where each world has a HUGE amount of autonomy. Just about the only presence most citizens feel of the Imperium on their world are the ecclesiarchy's efforts to syncretize native faiths with the imperial cult. Basically "are you a monotheist? No? Have a chief god? Yeah? Well that's the Emperor". You only see the boot of the imperium (Inquisition, Space Marines) come down when the situation has gotten so bad that it is almost scorched earth tactics being used, culling huge amounts of population to prevent it from becoming a daemon world. Other than that, as long as the planet pays its tithes in resources and manpower it is left to the local elites to rule according to local culture.

>> No.78030835

>>78020940
Sheev would be more appropriate as a Hitler analogy. Vader is his champion, more like a Rommel.

>> No.78031000

>>78030835
Sheev doesn't really have anything in common with Hitler. Hitler had always openly campaigned on the restoration of Germany to an authoritarian state, since the Weimar republic was politically and economically unstable and they had minority government after minority government that all failed to achieve anything while people starved in the streets.

Sheev was... some mind controlling weirdo who just miraculously took over an entire pro-democracy society seemingly without opposition or support from the public. It was a really badly written story overall that has no real world analogues because that's not how things happen realistically.

>> No.78031028
File: 204 KB, 1280x1024, 1365110405143.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78031028

>>78019485
>Tyranids are not "cute"
You wouldn't know cute if it bit you.

>> No.78031070

>>78019485

So to be clear, you can acknowledge that a world is shit and not somewhere you want to live while thinking it's cool and while a "real" tyranid wouldn't be cute, it's understandable why someone might say tyranids are cute.

But ignoring that, I do know a couple people who unironically don't understand just how shitty 40k would be. He legitimately thought DKoK are something aspirational and assumed they were from some happy 40k near-utopia. When (incredulously) explained to him how moronic he was, his fall back was "well, I'd probably be an officer so I'd be fine" and is where I gave up.

>> No.78031084

>>78031000
>who just miraculously took over an entire pro-democracy society seemingly without opposition or support from the public
>because that's not how things happen realistically.
lel, Amerimutts live in an authoritarian corpocracy and they freely and gladly gave up their democracy; just so long as corporate tv man tells them it still exists and who they should vote for next.

>> No.78031086

>>78019485
>The Imperium are not "based", Chaos is not "fun"
that is correct: chaos is based and the imperium is fun
purge the xenos lmao

>> No.78031196

>>78030701
That is why I say everyone would be shot in IoM because its regime that wouldn't mind you being shot and shoot your yourself if it needed to. It's meatgrinder of mankind, and not "greatest civilizacion ever" like some retards insist.

>> No.78031201

>>78031084
Protip: All "democracies" are plutocratic capitalist oligarchies. Americans never gave up anything. They got exactly what they asked for. It just turned out not to be as amazing as they were expecting.

>> No.78031215

>>78030697
Anon, stop samefagging and return to your containment board, and your containment institution for mental health.

>> No.78031239

>>78029696
"based" is meaningless, nonadjective though, that only exists to signify that one likes something

>> No.78031275

>>78031196
Intergalactic wars against extermination-level events tend to be meatgrinders.

No meatgrinder = roll over and die

>> No.78031280

>>78030366
>40k's evolution from anti-thatcher satire
40k was never satire retard.

>> No.78031297

>>78031215
go back to /lgbt/

>> No.78031306

>>78019485
>The Imperium are not "based"
they are

>> No.78031322

>>78031306
Fuck off Nazi.

>> No.78031340

>>78031322
What's with all these SJW trannies invading 4chan lately?

>> No.78031342
File: 6 KB, 148x150, D4mK-A0WsAITtsj2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78031342

>>78031322

>> No.78031345

>>78022063
ebin you found one example, now if you'd owned the book you would have read further and see the bleakness that 40k entailed. RP said so many times, it is a setting that takes itself serious and is ironic of ITSELF and not real world politics. (Space marines see themselves as noble knights when in truth they're savage barbanians. ofc this got lost on even gw themselves)

>> No.78031382

>>78030835
Less Rommel and more, I'd say, Goering. Arguably Thrawn or Veers are Rommel.

But back to topic:
How is it so hard to understand people might root for the Imperium? Liking a supposedly "evil" faction doesn't make you "Alt-Right", or "Fascist" for that matter. It's the same with Zeon Fans in Gundam, the Empire Fans in Star Wars, or Enclave Fans in Fallout.

Also, as far as factions go, the Imperium isn't the worst. The factions within it just get more exposure than the others since, well, they are the Protagonists. So obviously they are under more scrutiny than the others.

Hell, the Tau practice selective breeding on every level of society (something even the Imperium doesn't do), and cultivate Subject Species like the Gue'Vesa like cattle to get desirable traits. And I've yet to see someone accuse fans of the Tau of supporting ethnic cleansing. Or fans of the Eldar and Necrons of being "Race Supremacists".

>> No.78031399

>>78031275
you missed the point of 40k
They dont have to be meat grinders but the regime is so corrupt and bloated that everything becomes a meat grinder without real good reason.
The imperium isnt like this because of neccasity but because of corruption and degeneration.

>> No.78031491

>>78031399
Every decision the imperium does makes perfect sense in the context of ensuring mankind survives in the long term regardless of short term deaths. Degenerate nobles are the only corrupt part of the imperium and that'd be solved easily by executing all nobles who aren't warrior-aristocrats

>> No.78031522

>>78031399
>They dont have to be meat grinders
In case you didn't realize, but there are multiple genocidal alien threats attacking mankind, which can't be reasoned with, which requires massive mobilization for war and a police state. If the Imperium dismantled its military and security infrastructure then mankind would simply be genocided by:

-Tyrannids, who devour all biomass on a planet to reproduce
-Orks, who genocide planets for fun
-Necrons, who want to genocide all life
-Chaos, who will turn your world into a living nightmare if there is no police state to stamp out their cults while they are still small
-Tau and Eldar, who are more moderate, but still perfectly happy to see mankind extinct if it would advance their endgoals

Overall, the only force in the galaxy capable and willing to defend mankind is the Imperium.

Actually, if anything, the top-level rulers of the imperium are mostly made up of iron-willed fanatics, who are competely devoted to mankind's ultimate victory. The corruption and degeneration all come from the lower-level rulers, the aforementioned autonomous local governments who were assimilated into the imperium and operate with minimal oversight.

>> No.78031527

>>78027330
>if you get rid of trannies, trannies win
Okay Trudeau

>> No.78031581

>>78019485
The point of 40k is that everything is suck for no good reason. The suck amount has reached its threshold and it is in an inevitable decline until chaos/tyranids/necrons wipes everything out. That is the grim darkness of it, humanity is already doomed and nothing will change that. 40k allows you to play in the final hours of mankinds time in the galaxy. The setting is contained to itself and serious, it isnt meant to satire anything nor to humour. Its only meant as a background setting for your skirmishes; a hopeless universe 1 step away from total destruction.
GW moved the timeline forward and we are now in the Time of Ending. The IoM has only itself to thank for its ridiculously horrible state but they pretend to be the beacon of civilazation humanity once was. (This is an analogue to the medieval way of thinking, which really encompasses all of the IoM).
GW however needs money so they changed some aspects of the setting. The mythological Horus Heresy got explained and the decay of the empire got removed. Both of these clash with what Rick Priestly envisioned (He has said so in a couple of interviews) and 40k is something else now. But its main features; taking itself seriously and not being satire of anything stand.

>> No.78031582

>>78019485
The Imperium is the cruelest, most bloody regime imaginable. But it ultimately exists to preserve humanity from an unimaginably worse fate. Nothing that safeguards mankind can be evil, not even the most strenuous inhumanity. If mankind fails, it has failed forever.

>> No.78031677

>>78031491
>Every decision the imperium does makes perfect sense in the context of ensuring mankind survives in the long term regardless of short term deaths.
Yeah Im sure purging worlds because of an administrative error is a good or having a lawbook so bloated every law has another that contradicts it very noble, as is outlawing innovation and hording life changing technology. Planetary assault instead of bombarding to gloryhog?
Nothing about the imperium is tactical or promotes good decision making.
>>78031522
>In case you didn't realize, but there are multiple genocidal alien threats attacking mankind
Yeah and mankind had them all tamed before and looked nothing like the imperium. In case you didn't realize the IoM is at the final part of a downward slope and the Golden Throne is broken beyond repair.
> the top-level rulers of the imperium are mostly made up of iron-willed fanatics, who are competely devoted to mankind's ultimate victory
You have no clue what youre talking about. High lords of terra dgaf about humanity and only themselves, so does the priesthood of Mars.
>he corruption and degeneration all come from the lower-level rulers
Ah right you havent even read any codex I see. Maybe stick to the youtube lore videos.

>> No.78031763

>>78031522
>-Tau and Eldar, who are more moderate, but still perfectly happy to see mankind extinct if it would advance their endgoals
both literally want(ed) peace with humanity and have tried multiple diplomation attempts... The tau even have humans living in their empire and humans live and have lived in peaceful tandem with other aliens before.

>> No.78031770

>>78019687
Painting technicolor plastic models of that sort of state is the same morally regardless of if it's a funko pop. If you don't like 40k you can just move on and play something else if you're incapable of fretting about the implied implications of your toy soldiers.

Thinking orks are funny is on par with thinking necrons are cool. Both of them slaughter humans in the millions at any opportunity

>> No.78031788

>>78019687
>he takes the fluff of a wargame that seriously

Go outside.

>> No.78031826

>>78027330
It doesn't follow.
The Imperium doesn't do the best job of accomplishing a civilization built on theocratic fundamentals, but it's still better than your typical dystopian cyberpunk because for all its cruelty it remains firmly planted on a religious, soul-affirming foundation.

>> No.78031888

>>78031763
Tau want to enslave humanity and Eldar only let humans live if they're useful

>> No.78031902

>>78031763
Tau turn other races into brainwashed slave jannissaries and control their breeding.

Eldar just use other races as pawns via their psychic powers. An alliance with Eldar would just mean humans get used as cannon fodder so Eldar can preserve their numbers.

>> No.78031956

>>78031826
Not really, seeing as it's literary the worse way to deal with chaos and most factions in universe aknowledge they are worse then eldar because they fucked up the galaxy a lot more with their presence.
>>78031888
Anon humanity is already enslaved, and used as fuel for their own doom.

>> No.78031964

>>78031763
>and humans live and have lived in peaceful tandem with other aliens before.
Also, this resulted in the collapse of the old human empire. The current xenophobic Imperium came as a result of these "peacefully cohabiting" aliens turning on mankind and genociding humans when humanity was weakened by the collapse.

>> No.78031999

>>78031956
>humanity is already enslaved
Enslaved to who?

>enslaved to humanity
ah, okay. So they're not enslaved at all

>> No.78032017

>>78031763
>and have tried multiple diplomation attempts
Only when it benefits their interests. Both have also run extermination campaigns.

Imperials wear their hatred on their sleeves, but they're not that far removed from how the eldar treat other races. And that's just fine. The dark future is a miserable place where the beings within can only barely contain their genocidal impulses.

>> No.78032047

>>78031964
>Also, this resulted in the collapse of the old human empire.
Uh no, an ai rebelion and the birth of a chaos god did that. Afterwards orc waaghs became rampant. Even during the HH aliens and humans were living peacfuly side-by-side.
>>78031902
>Tau turn other races into brainwashed slave jannissaries and control their breeding.
certain ethereals do but not everyone, this is a major strife with the Tau.
>Eldar just use other races as pawns via their psychic powers
Eldar(craftworlders) want to be left alone mostly and dont care for anything but their souls.
>An alliance with Eldar would just mean humans get used as cannon fodder so Eldar can preserve their numbers.
Yeah same exact goal as the high lords of terra.

>> No.78032063

>>78031999
>>humanity is already enslaved
>Enslaved to who?
high lords of terra rtard
>enslaved to humanity
They dont have any shared interest with humanity only their own greed and power.

>> No.78032069

>>78031280
No it literally was. Early 40k was a criticism of Magret Thatcher’s warlike nature with characters like ghazhkull Magurk Thrakka. This mockery has even continued into the recent years in some regard as GSC are a strawman of union uprisings. The Tau are supposed to be the example of how an innovative group would act around a bunch of theocratic neanderthals and the Eldar are essentially the whispers of previous wild native tribes that die out more and more every time they interact with outside populations.

>> No.78032088

>>78031340
Otherway around, /tg/ had a bunch of extremists get into 40k with the election as people kept trying to meme trump a the emperor. Before this /tg/ leaned more towards the left.

>> No.78032121

>>78032063
>high lords of terra rtard
So humans are enslaved in the same way the average US citizen is enslaved: made to pay taxes, conscripted and follow laws.

>> No.78032141

>>78032088
I have literally never in my life met a wargamer who wasn't right wing.

>> No.78032150
File: 478 KB, 1817x2479, chaos cultist grenade.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78032150

>>78019485
>Chaos is not "fun"
that's where you're wrong bucko

>> No.78032202

>>78032069
>ghazhkull Magurk Thrakka.
Even GW has said this had nothing to do with thatcher. Seriously just stop.

>> No.78032221

>>78032069
>Early 40k was a criticism of Magret Thatcher’s warlike nature with characters like ghazhkull Magurk Thrakka
Andy Chambers named his warboss on him and his mates bastardized version of tolkien's orc language. "Mag Uruk" is quite literally "big ork". "Ghazghkull" is "metal skull"

early 40k is influenced heavily by The Troubles and general british culture of the late 70's and early 80's, but it was never a direct criticism or thesis on anything. It is a kitchen sink setting for a bunch of garage-band metal heads to put cool stuff in.

>> No.78032229

>>78032121
>So humans are enslaved in the same way the average US citizen is enslaved:
Yeah but replace US goverment with Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Staling and Himmler, Hong Xiuquan and Commodus.

>> No.78032283

>the Imperium is based
wait, zoomers unironically think the imperium is a good system of governance? How have we failed them so hard?

>> No.78032404

>>78032229
Or Robespierre maybe. Liberalism has its own bloody history.

>> No.78032414

>>78032283
By letting things get bad enough that a violently totalitarian response seems reasonable.

>> No.78032450

>>78019590
>Of course, some people look at sarcastically expressed terrible ideas and think "you know what, that looks legitimately like how I see the world".
Gee I wonder who that could be

>> No.78032479

>>78032414
How are things bad? We live in the freest time in all history. There was no point in the entire history of humanity at which the average person had more personal freedom than now. And you people claim you are somehow oppressed.

>> No.78032483

>>78019485
the people who don't "get" 40k are the people who police opinions making SURE everyone else knows it's all about how "bad" everything is, as if we actually lived there lmao

>> No.78032505

>>78032479
>We live in the freest time in all history.
Yes, free to do as you are told, free to discuss acceptable topics, and vote for two identical parties.

USSR had similar freedoms.

>> No.78032631

>>78032479
I guess having nazis storm the capital doesnt give you much concern

>> No.78032671

>>78032069
>>78032069
>The Tau are supposed to be the example of how an innovative group would act around a bunch of theocratic neanderthals
Load of shit. All they were ever supposed to be is an example of all the innumerable tiny xeno empires that exist within the galaxy. Unfortunately, fanboyism has turned them increasingly snowflakey.

>>78032088
>>78032088
>Before this /tg/ leaned more towards the left.
Not this kind of left. There was no one on /tg/ calling for the dismantling of 40k or telling people eating the wrong food is culturally insensitive until a few years ago.

>> No.78032676

>>78032631
The fact that people as stupid as you are allowed to vote is the best possible argument for an authoritarian government.

>> No.78032692

>>78032631
why are you people here? or is it just one guy who thinks this board owes the world a "correct" opinion every once in a while?

>> No.78032715

>>78032631
Eh. I'm sure in a few years, you Americans will rationalize these sorts of things the same way you rationalize school shootings. If you look at it statistically, the capital building almost never gets stormed by armed insurgents.

Although calling them insurgents is giving them far too much credit. There was no plan, no goal and no possible way to succeed at anything.

>> No.78032865

>>78032631
>magapedes
>nazis
Retard. Also, you fat fucks should worry more about the fact that your last election made Russia look like a functioning democracy free of corruption.

>> No.78032961

>>78032715
>There was no plan, no goal and no possible way to succeed at anything.
No weapons either. They were literally shot at, resulting in the death of a protestor, and the crowd had neither the means nor the willpower to retaliate with violence.

What would have happened if the crowd caught Biden that day? In all likelihood? They probably would have stood around in a circle yelling at him until dispersed.

>> No.78033021

>>78032631
Do you have any idea how much everybody loved that? Over half of registered Democrats praised it and it turned BLM into bootlickers.

>> No.78033078
File: 1.43 MB, 3376x1264, 1442076894906.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78033078

>>78019672
>>but also cute girls!
So... WE MUST TURN THE CHAOS GODS INTO CUTE GIRLS?!?!

>>78023892
DESTROY US ALL!!!

>> No.78033652

>>78032479
Personal freedom to do what? To engage in degeneracy and faggotry? To look on as your race is slowly exterminated and the apes inherit the Earth?

>> No.78033822

>>78031084
Any attempt at actual democracy is "populism"
Post war governance is intentionally an oligarchy of finance/clergy

>> No.78033934

>>78019485
>>78019687

I honestly don't get your point, it looks like your entire comment is "I don't feel like I'm having fun because this is not my personal taste

And you know what?

This is okay, you don't have to like anything, but your threads is never going anywhere, claiming to hate something based ony your personal preferences will not lead others to leave to pick something else, there is nothing to talk about.

>> No.78033935

>>78031956
>humans fucked up the galaxy more than the most warp-attuned race that literally murderfucked a new chaos god into existence, creating the Eye of Terror and causing the collapse of multiple interstellar civilizations including the nascent human empire

>> No.78034018

>>78032088
Because until gamergate nerds were basically apolitical weirdos who were generally distasteful of the establishment.

>> No.78034092

>>78034018
Kind of explains why journos still freak out over GG. Nerds finally found out which group of people were ruining their shit. I still get a laugh thinking about Wu saying that there were GG snipers outside her house

>> No.78034142
File: 50 KB, 1024x785, 1614884642021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78034142

>>78019535
This, it's kind of inconstant and I suspect it's supposed to be, much like Judge Dredd. OP is a dummy and probably a shitlib faggot.

>> No.78034146
File: 74 KB, 323x455, emperorsmile.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78034146

THIS SETTING IS ABSURDLY HORRIBLE
NO, YOU DON'T GET IT, THIS SETTING IS DARK
THIS SETTING IS ABSURDLY AND GRATUITOUSLY DARK AND THAT ISN'T FUNNY AT ALL
NO MAN, IT'S NOT A PARODY, IT'S TOO FUCKING DARK TO BE A PARODY
THIS SETTING IS SUPER FUCKING SERIOUS AND YOU CAN TELL HOW SERIOUS IT IS BY THE ABSOLUTE DARKNESS OF THE GRIM GRIM DARKNESS WHICH PERMEATES EVERY ATOM OF THE SETTING
NO, FUCK YOU, SOP LAUGHING IT'S NOT FUNNY

>> No.78034327

>>78034092
>Nerds finally found out which group of people were ruining their shit.
It is pretty funny how little it took for gamers to completely lose all faith in our first estate. We have a decentralized clergy of journalists and media companies, who are arguably the most powerful force in our society, not too unlike sunni islam. So when a small, insignificant sect decided to go up against the gamers, the gamer's faith in the ENTIRE clergy was shattered not just "ethics in games journalism".

>> No.78034393

>>78019485
>necrons are not "cool"
how do you breathe dude you are so stupid

>> No.78034437

>>78034327
> a decentralized clergy of journalists and media companies

they might be more centralized then you think, 90% of them

>> No.78034601
File: 3.58 MB, 2619x1024, Sisters of Chaos.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78034601

>>78033078
if we turn the chaos gods into cute girls we must also turn the emperor, gork and mork into cute girls

>> No.78034647
File: 83 KB, 700x494, 1355146910427.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78034647

>>78019485
>>78019485
>Don't get 40k.
No its pretty simple, it exists to sell models and other paraphernalia. Space Marines exist to sell models of cool space knights, no it doesn't matter if their GRIM AND GRITTY story is about them raising children from an early age to be these space knights.
Tau exist to sell cool aliens in alien armor with cool alien mechs. Orks exist to see cool Mad Max aliens, Necrons are cool space skeletons, Eldar are cool space elves, Chaos are cool space knights but evil this time, tyranids are cool space bugs, and the imperial guard are cool space soldiers with cool space tanks.
Warhammer 40,000 isn't suddenly more than a game setting just because Foundation was too complicated for you. You fucking pseudo intellectual smooth brain.
>Y-y-y-y-y-y-yyyyyy-you're not supposed to like any of them!
Yes you are, or else they wouldn't sell models. Learn to separate fiction from reality. Or do you call your mom a witch when she put her hands in front of her face and magically vanished from the universe?

>> No.78034804
File: 227 KB, 720x1280, 1409502450518.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78034804

>>78034601
>if we turn the chaos gods into cute girls we must also turn the emperor, gork and mork into cute girls
Yes... YES!!!

>> No.78035088
File: 319 KB, 500x642, empress of man.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78035088

>>78034804
cool

>> No.78035489

>>78034018
>>78034092
they still are apolitical weirdos who are generally distrustful of the establishment, which often frustrates the efforts of people who think nerds being woke to the cathedral means they have politics as developed as other people woke to the cathedral

nerds are just homebodies that don't like to do things; they resent the organs of established power for trying to force them to do things, and they're not willing to actually oppose those powers because that would mean having to do things

>> No.78035794

>>78035489
>nerds are just homebodies that don't like to do things
No they do many things called hobbies.
>they resent the organs of established power for trying to force them to do things
I'd say they don't like having their hobbies become political propaganda for normies.
>and they're not willing to actually oppose those powers because that would mean having to do things
Not much you can do to fight the establishment, best you can do it bit h about it and move to a new hobby hoping it doesn't become popular enough for the mainstream to take an interest

>> No.78035825

>>78032063
The high lords have humanity's survival and prosperity in their best interest, the Eldar do not

>> No.78035836

>>78035794
wow you're retarded

>> No.78035856

Orks are meant to be funny and endearing.

Nids are not even evil. Probably the least evil of the factions.

>> No.78035872

>>78034437
WaPo and the NYT don't take orders from a shadowy cabal, they just don't.

>> No.78035896

>>78029309
based

>> No.78035905

>>78035836
Compelling argument anon, you sure proved me wrong

>> No.78035910

>>78034437
More like 99%. The Marxist cabal gets very angry when the silent majority try to speak up

>> No.78035978

>>78032715
There are more school shootings in UK than US.

>> No.78036007

>>78035836
>wow you're retarded
Reddit is down the dumpster.

>> No.78036223

>>78035978
Not to mention most major UK cities have a bomb hoing off every day. And 300,000 people is considered a major city in the UK

>> No.78036240
File: 43 KB, 1272x1243, Bez tytułu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78036240

>>78034601
>>78034804
>if we turn the chaos gods into cute girls we must also turn the emperor, gork and mork into cute girls

>> No.78036562

>>78029730
There is no woke in the imperium. Facist would prevail there. Shit, AM, Inquisition and ecclesiarchy would gobble.them up to swell their ranks

>> No.78036610

>>78031322
At least he envisions a world with 2 sexes and ine skin color for the imperium

>> No.78036637

>>78031527
If they die, i can accept they've "won"

>> No.78036717

>>78032047
>Yeah same exact goal as the high lords of terra.
Elves are better at it though due to psychic powers letting them see ahead. They would just shrug off all their casualties onto mankind and do little to aid humans.

>> No.78036724

>>78032479
Cant throw rocks on black people or call trannies trannies to not get called some sort of racist right wing.
Thats no freedom at all anon. I want freedom like in the 30s.

>> No.78036747

>>78032631
You mean the good guys who for laughs stomed the capital when faggot pussies cried this will turn into people slaughtering liberals? Yeah what about them?

>> No.78036821
File: 616 KB, 1902x3387, 1615089116201.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78036821

>>78019485
That is the beauty of WH40K, it is Heman combined with Event Horizon combined with the Crusades combined with Stargate combined with Saving Private Ryan combined with Aliens, etc... Whatever thing you like, dark or light, scifi or fantasy, it is in there.

>> No.78036827

>>78035856
Probably why they don't have a large player base. Goofy only carries you so far. New AoS orcs look way better than 40k stuff.
>>78036724
You can do it anon just expect a reaction you might not like.

>> No.78036854

>>78036821
40K predates most of those references

>> No.78036865

>>78036827
Oh if we get rid of those who react how we dont lije then there is no problem

>> No.78036910

>>78036854
yes, but you get the point. wh40k is a mish mash of themes and ideas. The only rules is there should be skulls, somewhat edgy, and war.

>> No.78037074

>>78036910
If you want to "get" 40K then go read old issues of 2000AD. Even modern ones will help.

>> No.78037185

>>78019485
>>78019535
This is the difference of who gets it, and who doesn't
OP eat shits like always

>> No.78037186
File: 1.13 MB, 520x293, simple flips the 10th day of the 9th month 2020.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78037186

>>78030366
>anti-thatcher satire

Please explain this to me.

I was born in 1989 outside of the commonwealth so Thatcher was history by the time I was old enough to pay attention to politics, let along foreign politics.

>> No.78037257
File: 3.99 MB, 2560x1440, 1520376059476.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78037257

>>78037074
There is nothing I need to do. One writer will make some space marines that are on a muerderous crusade, killing xenos and heretics, bombing planets for mere chance of either, and pumping out people in factories and gang planets in hopes for more murder machine astartes or guards. Then the next writer writes space marines and the perfection of mankind, defending the innocents of humanity, with shining light of righteousness gleeming from then. Then another writes space marines, dark eldar, and orkz having mario kart death races. They all fit in wh40k and all change at whims of writers.

>> No.78037419
File: 407 KB, 900x1200, mega dakka.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78037419

>>78036240
hotties

>> No.78038077

>>78037186
Theres an old meme that 40K was originally all about Thatcher who is a widely hated politician here.
But the reality is no. It never was and its just people who really hate Thatcher wanting to make everything about her.

>> No.78038370

>>78038077
I always Thought Thatcher and Raegan were based as fuck

>> No.78038423

>>78028747
Except space marines are warrior monks, not knights

>> No.78038433

Yes.

>> No.78038499

>>78038370
Thatcher basically spent most of her time setting up serious long term problems as solutions to immediate problems.

She broke the unions to enable the coal industry to be dismantled because workers can't compete economically with slave labour in the developing world. But did nothing to address the chronic long term unemployment or regional decline this created.
She forced the sale of council housing to its tenants enabling the majority of the population to own a home. But mandated all that money be spent on supplementing immediate budgets rather than on new social housing preventing the creation of a household construction loop that would have kept house prices low.

And it just goes on and on like that.
Basically the only thing she got right was the Falklands and even then she still did half a job by refusing to enact any kind of punitive campaign against Argentina.

>> No.78038560

>>78021029
You are being ironic but you can tell a lot about people and their political opinions by what they say about their hobbies. Everything is political. Only fools say something isn't. That in and of itself is a political statement.

>> No.78038588

>>78038499
>She broke the unions to enable the coal industry to be dismantled because workers can't compete economically with slave labour in the developing world
Of course it can. You just have to use slave labour in your own country.

>> No.78038605

>>78038588
No because then they're not workers they're slaves.

>> No.78038644
File: 164 KB, 811x1049, 917[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78038644

>>78019485
>The Imperium are not "based"
>Chaos is not "fun"
>Tau are not "the good guys"
>Tyranids are not "cute"
>Necrons are not "cool"

>> No.78038667

>>78038644
Picture of you?

>> No.78038679

>>78038370
Most Brits live Thatcher except for alcoholic jobless Northerners and socialists, and no one likes either of those

>> No.78039007
File: 117 KB, 960x720, 1608621484458.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78039007

40kids are annoying, but the retards getting their panties in a knot over other people enjoying 40k's aesthetic/koolness/edginess are embarrassing.
I hope this thread was posted ironically.

>> No.78039067

>>78038605
If they work, then they're workers. Just don't pay them, and you'll be able to compete with foreign slave labour. Domestic slaves will always be preferable to foreign slaves, but as long as one country anywhere is using slaves, domestic paid workers will be unable to compete. Your only solutions are to use force to stop slavery everywhere, or have slavery everywhere.

>> No.78039195

>>78038605
And? All great empires of the past had slaves. Sounds like a better use for the unemployed than sitting around and mooching off the taxpayer

>> No.78039707

>>78039195
Absolutely this. Every man over the age of 20 who doesn't own their own business, and every women, should be put back into slavery. White male businessowners are the people who need and deserve rights and sufferage, because we're the ones who contribute to society. Then and only then will we be able to compete with the Asian bugmen.

Bring back slavery or lose our country to the Asians. Those are the choices. Choose wisely.

>> No.78039810

>>78039707
Based.

>> No.78039908

>>78036240
>Orks are exactly the same as usual
>with the exception that they fight over tits vs ass

>> No.78039946

>>78039707
Or you could just not buy shit from slave economies.
Do you need cheap slave made plastic crap?
Slavery ended because its not sustainable with white people. They're too prone to rebellion.

>> No.78040046

>>78019485
It's a game with plastic toys anon, you're doing something wrong if it's not cool/fun/based.

>> No.78040091

>>78019733
So?

>> No.78040136

>>78039946
>Or you could just not buy shit from slave economies.
Lol. Like that's possible.

Subjugation of western countries by Asian bugmen it look like it'll be, then. Enjoy your future servitude and social credit scores.

>> No.78040185

>>78037186
The connection between orks and thatcher is actually older than 40k. Look up the tragedy of mcdeath it's literally a fantasy recreation of thatcher and riot cops(orcs) vs the coal miners union (dwarves) it was so blatant folks saw 40k thrakka's name and assumed it was a continuation of the gag.

>> No.78040364

>>78038370
They knew how to put on a show but neither of them could figure out how to keep the show going meaning as usual the tough guy routine is just an act. Funnily enough intentionally or not much like it is in 40k no one knows what they're doing so they just act tough and barrel through each other leaving a domino effect of new problems in their wake.

>> No.78040840

>>78039946
>Slavery ended because its not sustainable
No. It ended because cuckolds started getting power and influence. They're the root of the world's problems and the moral decay of civilization.

>> No.78040876

>>78040840
Learn a bit of European history.
Learn how slavery turned into serfdom to try and dodge the constant rebellions.
Then how serfdom collapsed due to serf rebellions and desertion.

>> No.78040879

>>78019485
>>78019535

WH40k's over-the-top-ness is its appeal

>> No.78040919

>>78040876
>Learn a bit of European history.
If they were capable of learning, they wouldn't think the things they do

>> No.78041049

>>78040919
Still, freeing them was the right thing to do.

>> No.78041139

>>78019535
fpbp, as usual

>> No.78041261

>>78031280
... You're kidding, right? 40K started as a way to sell minis they couldn't licence anymore, but when they developed the world it started as a satire and drew from stuff like overblown metal covers, Tatcher's works, and... Really a lot of other places. Along the way writers and developers forgot about it and took it seriously, which is why you STILL have some ludicrous stuff in there that hasn't yet been retconned. Learn your history you noob.

>> No.78041512
File: 87 KB, 500x500, 3D24C8D1-FD7E-4B6B-87B1-3555F863A938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78041512

> The Imperium are not "based", Chaos is not "fun", Tau are not "the good guys", Tyranids are not "cute", Necrons are not "cool"

Didn’t hear nothin about the Orks! So getting crushed by an endless autistic rampage fueled by literal war is the best ending for humanity?

>> No.78042118

>>78041261
The world was just random bullshit stapled together to sell more minis, incoherent and with no meaning beyond what it advertises

>> No.78042127

This thread is nothing but bait

>> No.78042162

>>78031322
YWNP

>> No.78042213

>>78019733
If you're this retarded, you should already be offended by the fact that it's a WAR game.

>> No.78042775

You're allowed to find things to like in the context of the game.

>> No.78043289
File: 58 KB, 651x655, 1613433590139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78043289

>oldhammer
>writers taking things from a myriad of sources including politics, mythology, pop culture, punk, history, etc

>nuhammer
>writers taking stuff from warhammer

>> No.78043290

>>78042118
Yet in drawing quick and dirty inspiration to draw models lore and scenarios from they still satirized real world political issues in addition to historical events and popular media. The setting is what you make it so what's it matter if some past writers had their own commentary to motivate their work.

>> No.78043440
File: 230 KB, 769x976, 1441994668544.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78043440

>>78037419
INDEED!

>> No.78043462

>>78043440
>fungal tiddies

>> No.78043694
File: 114 KB, 850x950, 1423047568287.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [report]
78043694

>>78043462
>Tree fiddies, if you will...

>> No.78043894

>>78019535
>second post, best post
>spbp

>> No.78046721

>>78043290
>scenarios from they still satirized real world political issues in addition to historical events and popular media
1st learn what satire means, also include parody with that.
2nd rick priestly, the guy who single handedly made 40k has said explicitly that it isnt satire but a kitchen sink setting of based on his archeological degree, 2000AD and medieval europe with warhammer fantasy battle miniatures.
> The setting is what you make it so what's it matter if some past writers had their own commentary to motivate their work.
not a single BL writer has made satire but if they did please give examples and what real world event it is satirizing.

>>
Name (leave empty)
Comment (leave empty)
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Password [?]Password used for file deletion.
Captcha
Action