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>Previous Thread:
>>77936232

>Thread Question
What's the biggest points game you've ever played?

>> No.77941038
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Behold perfection!

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All is dust!

>> No.77941061

>>77941026
Let's be honest boys
They forgot about drukhari release didn't they?

>> No.77941062
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OPS ARE FAIL

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>TQ
2000 point games already drag on for a while so playing at higher points sounds awful. I might be convinced to play at like 2500 with something like knight vs knight tho

>> No.77941076

>>77941061
Who?

>> No.77941089

>>77941062
Fuck off a a ron

>> No.77941090

>>77941061
It's in two weeks. There's no need for melodrama, we're not Orkfags.

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Man those threads are getting split more than Cadia itself.

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>> No.77941103

>>77941073
image theme: Zandri duststorm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU

>> No.77941106

>TQ
Like 1700 points. It was my AdMec vs my friends word bearers

>> No.77941120

Gonna finish Talon of Horus tonight, and I'm gonna start listening to Helsreach tommorow while painting, what other books should I check out

>> No.77941130

Please don't reply to bait posts, even if you agree with them.

>> No.77941132
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Do not batch paint more than 10 models at the time.
Once I'm done with this GSC. I'll continue repainting my old SoB
Maybe ill finish painting before the tremors make it impossible

>> No.77941145

>>77941132
I batch painted my guard 40 at a time.

>> No.77941153
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How are you showing your support for international women's day in 40k anon?

>> No.77941156

>>77941130
Fuck off faggoy you arent the thread police

>> No.77941159

>>77941130
if you don't reply to bait lurkers will think those opinions are tolerated. unless the Ordo Jannius were willing to drop the hammer again like during last night's raid

>> No.77941162
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>>77941099
Reality need not apply.

>> No.77941167

>>77941156
Why do you want to see the thread get ruined?

>> No.77941175

>>77941026
>What's the biggest points game you've ever played?
No points limit apocalypse game of 6th, ended up using all my CSM as special weapon chosen with abbadon.

We used four tables, around 6 game mats, the game took 12 hours and we got like 2/3 turns in, also the dude who ran the gaming club made up some bullshit space wolf formation that took the 13 wolf lords, gave each of them extra attacks equal to the number of surviving members and rerolls on saves and shit.

The imperium still lost thanks to our resident necron and nid players being aces. 10/10 would repeat. Shame the club disbanded.

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>>77941162
based heavy metal chad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqEgFEkxek

>> No.77941194

>>77941090
Fuck you and your voice of reason :(
I wanted to jill myself to drukhari crusade stuff this week

>>77941076
EXACTLY

>> No.77941196

>>77941132
Are these 100% contrast paints? Not bad if so. Just more reason greytide is inexcusable

>> No.77941246

>>77941099
Deldar wouldn't necessarily be angry when killing though.

>> No.77941251
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Baneblades need to be 35 wounds and 2+ save.

>> No.77941260

>>77941251
and have aircraft LOS rules

>> No.77941261

>>77941251
Baneblades need to be 1000 points, with 4+ bs and t7

>> No.77941262
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Any Dark Eldarchads that can help me out? Lost the compartment of my bitz box with all my kabalite warrior helmets and now I can't finish my army, anyone have some laying around?

>> No.77941264

>>77941153
Ywnba

>> No.77941267
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>First sunny day in ages
>But room still too dark for painting dark angels basecoats and eyeballing good coverage
>I know i'll spend an english spring lunchtime airbrushing outside!
>Have a dreadnought and about 40 varied dark angels to prime
>Barely finish dreadnoughts second coat to correct staining from thin/too close sections and the shoulders before iwata clogs the fuck out
>My its now midnight and after hours of total strip down, cleaning and reassembly its finally working again

I only did my full strip down in january and havent used it since, is caliban green just some corax white tier nightmare or something?

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>>77941162

>> No.77941277

>>77941264
he will never be anonymous?

>> No.77941283

>>77941162
Seriously, retards forget that this is FANTASY

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>>77941196
Right now yes. Mostly used to the bulk of the work. It does wonders with hordes

>> No.77941295

>>77941261
You cheeky cunt

>> No.77941298

>>77941275
that advertisement is oddly menacing

>> No.77941308

Got first round of crusade games tomorrow. My opponent likes dreads and terminators, but I don't know if he's bringing them or not. Should I bring 20 assault intercessors and a sanguinary priest or something else? If it matters, the two Sergeants have thunder hammers and plasma pistols.

>> No.77941322

>>77941277
Tbh, I that's a decent 2nd attempt given it tried to autocorrect to ynwa firstly, and that kopshite can play in traffic

>> No.77941328

>>77941298
One of the only video game advertisements I can remember, the other being Halo 1-3 and one of the hitman games, “Death is my business, and business is good”.

>> No.77941329

Are there female great unclean ones with great big roasties that spew forth nurglings, puss, and other juices?

>> No.77941340

What is the ideal use for a dark angels lieutenant? Leader in smaller games? it seems in anything near 2k on paper theres always a better option.

>> No.77941365
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What do you think of the new abaddon model?

>> No.77941372

>>77941329
Yeah, can find em outside the job centre on a Wednesday.
Can get anything for a half bottle of warm lucozade and 2 ciggies as well if you catch em on Tuesday.

>> No.77941377

>>77941365
dayum Abaddon... those legs go all the way up?

>> No.77941392

>>77941365
It's far more threatening than the last one

>> No.77941398

>>77941329
might be a question for 3dpd I-I mean 3dpg

>> No.77941402

>>77941372
No I mean actual models people have fielded. I'm not shitposting.

>> No.77941423

>>77941340
500 point games, it makes more sense fluff wise having a lieutenant leading a small force instead of a captain. They're cheaper and can do almost the same as a captain.

>> No.77941433

>>77941365
Abaddon the armless.

>> No.77941437

>>77941329
Aren't they supposed to look like nurgle who is portrayed as a male?

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>>77941329

>> No.77941457

>>77941329
Squirters.

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>>77941026
It seems like the whole reveal that Alpharius was loyal, was the first Primarch to be discovered, was Omegon that died by Dorn, and that the Alphas were the real executioner Legion and not the Wolves, sort of just came and went.

>> No.77941474

>>77941267
Corax is probably the worst paint you could have chosen to put through an airbrush.

>> No.77941475

>>77941267
I've never really run into any problems, but then again I just an actual brush and not an airbrush.
Sorry to hear your woes, son of the lion.

>> No.77941506

>>77941459
That makes no cense, and thus it's likely another Alpha Legion psyop.

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Should we defund the local militia Hivebros?

>> No.77941532

>>77941459
Guess I'll have to read the book. Think gh it confirms enough of my headcanons (because that's what BL fluff is at this point): That Alpharius got sent away but Omegon never left Terra, and was loyal to the Emperor first and to the Warmaster second, opposite of Alpharius. End headcanon. The bit about him creating the Blood Games as means to reinforce security is nice.

>> No.77941534

>>77941459
Black Library is doing the literary equivalent of the boy who cried wolf with their "stunning" plot twists every other fucking book. No one really cares anymore.

>> No.77941561

>>77941026
Once had a big game where we all just brought our full collections and split into two teams. Game only went like 2 rounds over several hours but the whole reason we were doing it was a send off to some guy in our group who was moving away so it was about fucking around for fun anyways.

>> No.77941569

>>77941365
I hope they greate a new csm unit that is inspired by this spider

>> No.77941582
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>>77941530
I don't think policemen need military grade equipment, and i think raiding s house is overkill if they fear they could flush the drugs down the toilet...then you're assaulting a place for a single bag of drugs? Not worth it.
But that's real life, this is 40k. REMILITARIZE THE ARBITES

>> No.77941608

>>77941569
Nah there's already that spiderbot nobody uses. But if Abaddon ever plays with a spider, or says he likes one, that'll be recognition enough. They'll probably have ADB write a spider brown waifu

>> No.77941619

Assault Heavy Bolt Rifles are pointless.

Heavy Heavy Bolt Rifles are omfg overpowered

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>>77941534
Doesn't help that Abnett's newest book confirms Valdor is alive in 40k, has a Custodes army behind him, and also Loyalist daemons and a Blank clone army.
Every fucking book just drops a bombshell in order to get you to buy it. I appreciate Wraight and co. going the opposite route and telling stories about general Hive planet awfulness.

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I AM PRIMARIS

>> No.77941642

>>77941608
>Abbadon starts simping for a spider mutant or daemon
Fuck I hate how much I like this

>> No.77941643

>>77941608
>Nah there's already that spiderbot nobody uses.
Because they gave it fucking horrendous rules

>> No.77941650

>>77941632
Fucking what?

>> No.77941654
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HONK HONK

>> No.77941664

>>77941632
Bloodlines any good?

>> No.77941665

>>77941619
Assault 3 S5 bolters are the most powerful gun ever, surpassed only by that single Assault 3 S4 normal Intercessor squad that is going to double shoot.

>> No.77941671

>>77941619
Not sure what they were thinking when they made assault heavy bolt rifles, they should have made heavy assault bolt rifles. Although I do like the light heavy bolter.

>> No.77941689

>>77941665
Not on a unit that is better off sitting on an objective.

>> No.77941693

>>77941619
>>77941671
I feel like I'm having a stroke reading these names

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>>77941639
I AM GROOT

>> No.77941713

>the lion has healed and sleeps, waiting for the call to battle
>luther is assembelling all the fallen in one location

so ten years till this gets mentioned again? fifteen?

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>>77941664
There's a bit where you have some dumb girl whose drank the propaganda Kool-Aid wants to join the Guard and her parents are trying to convince her not to.
It's tiny things like that that make me like it enough.

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>>77941654
>Tfw no clown gf

>> No.77941786

>>77941746
It's in my backlog but I'll start reading it now, Storm of Iron can wait.

>> No.77941787

>>77941713
My problem with the Lion returning is that he's the same character type as Guilliman, a man entrenched in his beliefs of the Great Crusade that wakes up in an era that he doesnt understand man out of time type of thing. So if he does come back what does he have as a character to differentiate him from Guilliman? Lion just sounds boring, Im not sure what they can do to make him interesting and not simply a Not!Guilliman.

>> No.77941801

>>77941026
>TQ
This was a few years ago but it was all my Marines vs all my friends Marines, not caring about what was legal or not, just all the models we had. I think it must have been about 4000 points of my BA, which was mostly HQs(I collect them and try to have one of each marine Hq) and about the same amount for my friends Fists, perhaps a little less though he had mostly actual units and tanks. My army of BA and vanilla HQs killed a few tanks but kinda drowned in tacmarine spam, my friend collects monopose black reach tacmarines he must have more than 300 of them at this point.

>> No.77941820

>>77941713
Enough with the primarchs, please

>> No.77941855

>>77941689
You're going to...have them do objective actions? Rip

>> No.77941856

>>77941787
Simple: a imperium literally bisected into two halves and two primarchs who can disagree without being enemies. On paper it allows for tension on the ground. Differing trickle down ideals. Guilliman is completely on wrong footing, can barely understand half the modern gutterspeak people talk and is trying to keep all his dads plates spinning. El'Jonson can just go "you 10,000 years and look at what you did, clearly its not working and we need a return to tradition".

Then of course luthers shit happens which makes everyone question this "fundamentalist" leader and in turn all the people in his half of the imperium.

>> No.77941883

>>77941778
I'll be your clown gf. Hope you like benis :3

>> No.77941889

>>77941365
>the guy who discovered this has pronouns in bio
>his twitter timeline is nothing but science subversion (aka anti-colonizing science bullshit)
it's really all so tiresome

>> No.77941893

I went to the GW shop and spend $150...

>> No.77941928 [SPOILER] 
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>>77941889
They stole this from you

>> No.77941931

>>77941262
Stop begging and go to ebay.

>> No.77941933

>>77941893
on primaris

>> No.77941939

>>77941856
How can the imperium "return to tradition"? Furthermore what does this even mean now?

>> No.77941952

>>77941262
pull the other one

>> No.77941959

>>77941889
>it's really all so tiresome
So quit actively seeking out shit that makes you upset, retard.

>> No.77941970

>>77941939
It doesn't have to mean anything. It just has to have a culture already bisected with two heirs to the throne with differing ideologies but both have the opinion shit is fucked and needs fixing.

>> No.77941981

>>77941639
you will never be primaris

>> No.77941982
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>>77941883
Trap clown gf. Or else...

>> No.77941985

>>77941959
you can't tell me what to do!

>> No.77941994

Do brushes made specifically for minitures (citadel, etc) hold up better?

Ive got some cheap synthetic ones i grabbed from my local art store, and I got my money's worth, but I got through maybe 50 models before they all started splitting badly.

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>>77941939
I guess GW can use the Primarch excuse to make radically different Primaris styles.
Lion and co. go full Knight marines, Guilliman stays regular vanilla marines, Russ for barbarian marines, etc. etc. Gotta get that primaris paypig money.

>> No.77942029

>>77942000
WHY IS 60% OF THE SQUAD PLACING THEIR FOOT ON A ROCK? What kind of raised rock planet are they fighting on!

>> No.77942033

>>77941933
I bought a Battle Sisters box and he talked me into buying this starter paint set

>> No.77942054

Sanguinius needs to be the next primarch to return to 40k.

>> No.77942058

>>77941994
No. The GW brushes are not worth it for their price tag. I really like the windsor series brushes that you can get from Michaels.

>> No.77942068

>>77941959
It's thanks to people like you that we're in this mess to begin with, hard pass.

>> No.77942070
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>>77941099
Hey /tg/ I need some help understanding something. See I'm a Dawn of War baby, hell its what got me into 4chan when my anime desu friend couldn't, and so I remember the time period before the golden years came and nearly every mini faction got its own codex and army, and so there is this one nagging question in the back of my mind...

Why are the Necrons(and to a lesser extent Tau) so goddamn popular now, where as the Dark Eldar seem to have gone back to their pre-5th edition codex from all the way back in 2010. The Dark Eldar seem to be the Chaos Dwarfs of the 40k universe, what little fans they have are diehard and it shows with the magnificent fan artwork and models(which separates them from being the Bretonnians of 40k), but when it comes to anything from GW, its complete and utter shit, the table scraps are given unto the Dark Eldar, at best that is.

I understand everyone has different tastes and what not, so I get why the Dark Eldar Haemonculus Covens trail behind the Adeptus Mechanicus and what not, but we are talking about a faction which in the last decade has seen little to no new units. I mean hell, the Dark Eldar have such cool Special Characters, and they all are still removed including Vect and his Pimpmobile, where as the Necrons are overflowing with named special characters, and a new C'tan god.

Just, why? Help me understand why the Dark Eldar are the redheaded stepchild of 40k, please.

>> No.77942073

>>77941994
No. Synthetics unavoidably go to shit fast while natural hair brushes last for a long time with proper use and care.

>> No.77942082

>>77942029
They're on the Rock. Obviously.

>> No.77942087

>>77942068
Okay. Keep whining about a twitter profile on 4chan. That will fix things. That will make it all better. You're making a difference!

>> No.77942089

I could have sworn GW talked about Act 2 of Charadon and the factions that would be in it, remember it being Orks but I can't find it now, anyone else see that?

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>>77941959
>just ignore it bro
>oh what? it's in everything now? I guess you just have to accept it

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I like scythes! Very childlike and silly and thus very cool!

>> No.77942118
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Improved Baneblade datasheet

based, cringe, or neither?

>> No.77942124

>>77942094
>>77942087

>> No.77942127

>>77942070
>Why are the Necrons(and to a lesser extent Tau) so goddamn popular now
Necrons just got a massive new range release to go with the start of the edition box set. Tau had new models in 2015. Dark Eldar's last range update was 2011 and they've been meh to okay mechanically for a while.

>> No.77942128

>>77941099
>paint and highlight a female face the same way you'd paint and highlight a male face
>looks male
How could this have happened!?

>> No.77942134

>>77942054
He could come back as a warp deity and be the poster boy for a new army, perhaps Imperial angels/saints/demons or something.

>> No.77942144

>>77942070
necrons just got a massive push and their models always held up for the most part

>> No.77942146

>>77942070
They got literally their entire range redone like a decade ago. CWE are in much worse state but they have had really strong codexes.

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>>77942070
>Why are the Necrons(and to a lesser extent Tau) so goddamn popular now
They got new stuff, buffs and are the first (AND ONLY) xenos codex of 9E, as well as featuring in half a box that SM paypiggies (lol) buy, and sell the xenos half at a discount, so they're easy to get. Oh boy, dawn of war, those were the times. Quite different times, so many units changed!
>where as the Dark Eldar seem to have gone back to their pre-5th edition codex from all the way back in 2010

>> No.77942166

>>77942118
no invlus as it doesnt have legs

>> No.77942181

>>77942118
>+50 points for lascannon
Am I reading that right or did you fuck up?

>> No.77942182

>>77942070

Their model line got redone, but most importantly, their models go for supercheap since the Indomitus Boxset halfs always see the Necron half (Easily 1000 points) go for under £55

>> No.77942192

>tq
2k, but 1k is generally more fun. Game length in 2k is excessive and unapproachable, in addition to requiring a hell of a carrying case. 30+ cultists and multiple Daemon Engines are hard to bring anywhere.

Delete cultists from CSM codex please. Give them their own book.

>> No.77942196

>>77942118
2+/5++? Cringe. But T9 for the thing is based. Unsure about the -1D, should test it beforehand.

>> No.77942205
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>>77942128
>>77941099
This isn't a "GW can't make pretty female faces" thing, this is a "GW can't make pretty faces in general".
Fucking Guilliman is meant to be a handsome guy, perfectly crafted features and all that because he's a fucking Primarch, but he looks like an angry old man.

>> No.77942214

>>77942181

Nope, 50 points per Lascannon sponson. As in, the Heavy Bolters or Heavy Flamers are technically free, but the lascannon sponson costs 50 points. check the most recent points changes.

>> No.77942233
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>>77941778
>lemonfont

Isn't that a guy who transforms into a clown girl if I remember?

>> No.77942236
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>>77942205
Helmet gang wins!

>> No.77942244

>>77941530
>wordswordswordswordswordswords
Yup. You know what it is.

>> No.77942245

>>77942134
Apparently his image is stuck on the ship he fought/died on during the siege of Terra and his body is on Baal.

>> No.77942251

>>77942233
based if true

>> No.77942255

>>77942236
This
Why the fuck would you willingly go into battle without a helmet

>> No.77942258

Which chapters get the most out of Heavy Intercessors? Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, Ultramarines?

>> No.77942259

>>77941132
Batch paint an MSU, is my guideline.

>> No.77942269

>>77942233
Yes
>>77942251
;^)

>> No.77942274

>>77941994
Amazon sells a pack of like 8 brushes specifically for miniature painting, for 12 bucks a pack. I just buy one of these every other month, and abuse my brushes to shit, because they aren't expensive. As other anon said, synthetic bushes are trash, and the GW brushes at 22 bucks each are a fucking meme.

>> No.77942278

>>77941650
Yup, his secret quest is to learn the emperor's true name, since knowing a daemons true name gives you greater power over them. Emps is a warp daemon now confirmed.

>> No.77942282

>>77942108
I hate the newcrons. Ironically, giving them personality has made them so much less interesting to me. They should have remained the ultimate "stop having fun" faction where all the units are identical, move slow, and shoot, just to piss off people, in universe and out.

>> No.77942287

>>77942244
The whole joke of that "buff guys at computers" meme is the unexpected verbosity

>> No.77942291

>>77942087
Holy shit you will never be a real woman, the post lmao. Did my post give you an ouchie?

>> No.77942319

>>77942287
No it isn't retard, typical that you would think wordswordswords equals intelligence and sophistication though.

>> No.77942331

>>77942291
I just want you to shut the fuck up about politics already. I'm sick of seeing political bullshit on every fucking section of every fucking site that I visit, especially when it's just impotent crying.

>> No.77942335

>>77942118
T9 is retarded. Nothing (playable) should be T9. -1 Dam is alright, 5++ makes no sense for something without an in-universe forcefield, or equivalent justification. CP refund is also stupid, there should be some command penalty for bringing a super-heavy.

>> No.77942350

>>77942287
It is but it's still not a fucking "War and Peace" novel. Leftists literally cannot into humor.

>> No.77942353

>>77942214
Not paying 40 points for lascannon sponson, infantry squads take lascannons for 15 and heavy weapon squads take them for 5. Would rather just use a wall of infantry.

>> No.77942361

>>77942350
>>77942319
okay whatever
you should you-know-what that post anyway since it's off-topic political shit

>> No.77942367
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>>77942331
No. People I don't like shouldn't encroach on my hobby. Cry some more.

>> No.77942370
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>>77942255
Yiffs don't wear helmets so they can "smell" each other.
Weirdly enough, this counteracts Alpha Legion subterfuge because the Alphas masquerading as Wolves don't emit the "musk" that actual Space Wolves do. Yeah it's fucking weird.

>> No.77942374

>>77942353
*50 points

>> No.77942386
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>>77942287
hey, outlander. you dropped this

>> No.77942389

>>77942367
You aren't doing anything about it, though. You complaining about that guy's twitter profile here doesn't make him go away. Do you not see what I'm trying to tell you?

>> No.77942391

>>77942335
T8 already exists for heavy tanks. Baneblades are on another level from even things like Land Raiders. That should be mechanically represented. Can't speak for the rest of the stuff, I didn't read his fanfiction datasheet.

Baneblades should be like the 500-650 point, primarch tier, tank for Guard.

>> No.77942393

>>77941994
Get synthetics for the jobs you don't want to abuse a good brush on, like glue/metallics/washes/basing/dry brushing. I also tend to use a size 2 (or big size 1) round brush for my base coats. Then I use my good brushes for the detail work and a dedicated panel lining brush (to stay with a nice tip as long as possible).

>> No.77942427

>>77942386
I'm not defending that image, just explaining it

>> No.77942436
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>>77942282
>They should have remained the ultimate "stop having fun" faction where all the units are identical, move slow, and shoot, just to piss off people, in universe and out.
They have, anon. I know what you mean, for I won as the Overlord of All Kronus. I defeated the eldar in that bullshit stronghold mission where you basically fight two other factions, and then have to assault a summit where they spam more prism artillery than legally possible. I beat all waves of Last Stand and helped anon make Lord Ramz'Ka. All of that without uttering a word.
Then I leave them alone and i return to them having silly adventures in Infinite and the Divine, and petty court intrigues.
And i have fun. I figured it out: BOTH ARE TRUE.
You never hear necrons talk because you're seeing them from other races' perspective. And Necrons don't speak to vermin! You don't explain yourself to ants, you just destroy them. That's necrons. They can be people and nightmare both. And if you want to uphold the older omnicidal tradition, the ones who harvest worlds down to the bacterial level, turns out that was the work of Destroyers all along. We can enjoy this still, anon, trust me.

>> No.77942450
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>>77942361
I really wish you would you-know-what your self.

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>>77942389
>You aren't doing anything about it, though.
What makes you say that? Besides, bringing issues to light without the promise of an immediate solution is meaningless? Cringe apathy imo.

>> No.77942470
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77942470

What are eldar eyes canonically supposed to look like? I always got the impression from books that their pupils are so big they're functionally black, but everyone just gives them human eyes. Has anyone gotten this look on a mini?

>> No.77942479

>>77942450
>I tell you that you can do something about a post that you don't like
>You insult me
Why

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>>77942436

>> No.77942505

>>77942470
Horny response!

>> No.77942507

>>77942470
They just have normal eyes, but they're also the guys who do extreme body modifications of all sorts

>> No.77942511

>>77942118
Invul saves are pure cringe on 2++ models.

It literally only makes a difference against Meltas, which you're supposed to screen out.

T9, 2+ and maybe just a few more wounds. That's all you need.

>> No.77942541

>>77942466
Okay. Tell me what changes could arise from you bitching about a twitter bio on /40kg/. Tell me how that could possibly lead to anything happening to that fag.

>> No.77942555

>>77942282

I mean, those still totally exist too. The codex mentions that there are entire tomb worlds operating on algorithims and autopilot since everyone's memory banks degenerated completely in hybernation.

Even playing them as re-enslaved automatons with a rogue c'tan shard works within the universe.

>> No.77942563

>>77942391
The problem with T9 is most dedicated anti-tank is scaled to T8, the standardised toughness for big vehicles. I get you want your precious centre-piece to not die Turn 1 but welcome to the game.
At most I'd give a "Cannot Lose X(8 or so) amount of Wounds" per phase, I rule that I think is cancer but I can see why people like it.

>> No.77942566

>>77942470
I haven't tried it, but this should probably work.
>drop dark grey paint into eyes
>black wash
>dark grey again, but leave thin rim of the washed grey for definition
>speck of light grey on "pupil" 59 denote reflected light
Might need to do a few test heads to make sure there is enough definition in the eyes, may need a medium grey or charcoal instead to get the effect right.

>> No.77942582

okay, call me retarded but which of the missiles with the DS8 support system is the missile pod and which is the smart missile system? they aren't labeled

>> No.77942589
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77942589

>hey guy, tell me about <yourdudes>
>yeah awesome
>these numarines are shit, I only collect firstborn the true space marines

>> No.77942592

baneblade? 2+ save and halves AP of attacks against it to a minimum of ap-1 ez fix good tank

>> No.77942593
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77942593

>tfw having an anxiety attack thinking about free handing the cross when I have to paint my BTs
God I wish I wasn't shit at painting, my hands are way too fucking shaky

>> No.77942594

>>77941632

Oubliette is also on the same vein as Bloodlines. Life in the Imperium without Space Marines stomping everywhere.

>> No.77942596

>>77942589
Based.

>> No.77942601

>>77942563
-1 to wound is way less cancer than a wound limit.

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>>77942492
No, there is much left to say...and i will break my silence to say it

>> No.77942611
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77942611

>>77942589
>Astra militarum?
>Nah, I play guard

>> No.77942618

>>77942582
They call it the Smart Missile System because you have to be smart to recognize it :^)
>>77942589
Based

>> No.77942619

What's a good wash for very pale skin? Reikland is too dark

>> No.77942633

>>77942619
Agrax earthshade gloss

>> No.77942637

>>77942589
I finally met like an actual 40k boomer who was in his 60s at least while I was playing my primaris shit. He was really impressed by my astraeus, asked a bunch of questions about it and all the new models, it was kinda neat.

>> No.77942640

>>77942582
missile pod has 3 missiles, smart missile has 6
you can remember it by noting that fewer physical missiles = fewer shots on the weapon profile
>>77942593
so get shoulder pads with the crosses molded on

>> No.77942642

>>77941061
>tfw no new models
the new lelith really is the only thing we're getting, isn't it? even when half our range is still fineshit

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>>77942611
>mfw almost no gw employees call the guard astramilitaurum

>> No.77942662

>>77942640
okay, I thought that was the case but I didn't want to look like a retard/asshole saying it's a smart missile system when I've glued the pod on

>> No.77942666

>>77942593
I gotchu senpai, I had the same issues. Duncan has a video on free handing BT, he recommends just starting with a + and slowly fattening up the ends until you have the desired shape. To be neat you just need to find a way to brace your hands that's comfortable. I like to lean forward with my elbows on the table then lean my wrists into each other. Gives me a nice stable position to free hand from that prevents shaking.

>> No.77942667

How come CSM avoid grogshit
No one complains about the new CSM models (outside of the obliterators, which is understandable) like they do the new SM models

>> No.77942673

>>77942070
as a dark eldar player, it's always been this way, mostly because we have very few players and so GW doesn't see the need to invest in it. of course, this causes a feedback loop where the fact that the army is largely unsupported causes fewer people to pick it, but there you go.

about half our models are old resin, but most of the plastic ones are great sculpts with lots of options, so it's not all bad

>> No.77942685
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>>77942605
You are entitled you your opinion, but I personally find the mere existence of newcrons to wholly spoil my interest in them. It would be like GW came out and said that canonically 50% of orks are industrious, altruistic pacifists who keep to themselves on their own planets, but you can still play them as greenskin hordes if you want to.

>> No.77942699

>>77942667
CSM allows for a modicum of creativity and not just tacticool model no. #58483

>> No.77942700

are there literally any space wolf players that arent weirdo furfags

>> No.77942706

Anyone have an old SOB codex pdf? I want to get into them, but I don't want to get the codex right before the new one comes out.

>> No.77942707

>>77942667
They were essentially the old models slightly scaled up. Not massive fluff rewrites and entirely new patterned armor.

>> No.77942711

>>77942282
Tyranids have cosmic horror on lock. Oldcrons were redundant.

>> No.77942716

>>77942566

Thats worth a shot at least. I tried white but it didnt look right. Grey should blend better.

>> No.77942725

>>77941099
>>77942205
My opinion is an unpopular one; Lelith's expression conveys disgust and Guilliman shows disdain. I think the sculptors did alright.

>> No.77942735

>>77942700
My rival player is a SW player, really cool dude, not a furfag either and the wolf butts are undrilled. He sometimes even removes wolf iconography when it gets too much like on Ragnar.

>> No.77942742

>>77942642
The only times 40k armies get entire faction-wide revamps is if you're marines, an AoS army, if you just got introduced the edition prior or it's a new edition.
Better luck in 10th mate

>> No.77942745
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post you're favorite art work

>> No.77942746

>>77942700
One at my lgs was actually a decent guy and not a furry or massive weirdo. He actually admits the whole 'soace wolf riding a wolf with wolf bolters firing wolf variety rounds' is fucking stupid and just likes the viking aesthetic.

>> No.77942750

>>77942707
okay but it seems like marinefags bitch about every new unit
no one complained about the lord discordant or greater possessed

>> No.77942761

>>77942742
id be ok not with a revamp but with a few new units

whys gw gotta do deldar dirty like this

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>>77942745

>> No.77942764
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77942764

We need battle fleet gothic back Horus heresy edition

>> No.77942767

>>77942601
Very much so, but you want your tank not die.

>> No.77942768

>>77942762
This is nice art, anon

>> No.77942778
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77942778

>>77942700
I used to play SW but back in 3rd before they became full wolfy. I'm not a furfag but I am a weirdo who inserts their fetish into the army they play.

>> No.77942782

>>77942761
Should've bought more Blood of the Phoenix, at least you got new incubi

>> No.77942786

>>77942716
Groovy, glad I could offer a suggestion. I've used the technique for easy glowing eyes, but hadn't tried it with a dark colour.

>> No.77942787

>>77942750
>no one complained about the discolord
Some people did.
>why is this fucker riding an armored fucking spider where is our dark mechanicus

>> No.77942791
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77942791

>factory painting ork boys while listening to podcasts

Comfy.

>> No.77942801

>>77942745
>want to start krieg
>dont want resin cancer

>> No.77942806
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77942806

What do you think of my Mujahedeen Marines ?

>> No.77942807
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>>77942593
Look up some tremmor hand tricks on youtube.
recently saw someone tying a rubber band around their thumb and forefingers. Or a hand rest that levels the hand position with your chest. Or just straight painting with your hands resting on your chest works too

>> No.77942810

>>77942767
That's the case for everything, it just needs to make the commitment to kill it worth the price.

>> No.77942814

>>77942787
>>why is this fucker riding an armored fucking spider where is our dark mechanicus
No one said this. The complaints were that he looks like an Age of Sigmar model, because apparently only AoS is allowed to have mounted characters.
Darkmech fags (like me) were glad because it meant that more might come later.

>> No.77942839

>>77942593
Just buy a recast of the Forgeworld Imperial Fists Templar dudes

>> No.77942844
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Warmaster comfy on his throne

>> No.77942851

god it shits me that because Ynnari and Blood of the Phoenix failed deldar will never get new shit

>> No.77942854

>>77942563
Anon you replied to here. I don't play guard it isn't my centerpiece. Baneblades are just criminally undertuned and need fat buffs to bring them to a primarch tier model.

Wound limit is a cancer mechanic that is very inequitable to play into for no good reason. There's 0 reason why Death Guard can trivially bring down C'tan while Admech can't. It's a terrible solution to the 'but I shoot it and it does :)' problem. Making things fuckhard to kill is infinitely better than slapping prohibitive and inequitable mitigation on models


General anti-tank wounding on 5s is fine into a fuckhuge centerpiece. I don't see t9 2+ 4++ with a ton of wounds being impossible to bring down in the current meta. Space Marines can do it. Death Guard can do it. Necrons can do it. Chaos can do it. The only factions that can't, haven't been updated. Just keep in mind the power of Mortarion, and other major centerpiece models right now, and understand that a Baneblades should be at that level. If every army is getting a fuck you huge big boy, Baneblades should be that for Guard.

>> No.77942865

>>77942801
Dude, resin cancer is a fucking meme. You're more likely to get skin cancer from just being outside... not that anybody here does that.
if you've ever drank water you have Alzheimer's
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4030141/

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>>77942700
I like the noble barbarian/ viking theme of the army. I also like the silliness of wolf cavalry and axe & board dreadnought. I'm not a furry.

>> No.77942876

>>77942764
>new BFG never ever
if there was a time itd be when one of the BFG Armada games were released

>> No.77942879

>>77942844
At what point did the traitors think "Are we the baddies?" Was it when they killed their own guys who were still hesitant, or when they started growing horns and being possessed by daemons?

>> No.77942885
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>>77942118
If pic related can't be T9 then baneblades definitely shouldn't

>> No.77942886
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77942886

How would you make the tabletop more authentic to how things actually happen in the fluff? The tabletop game is not a very good representation of what transpires in the background.

>> No.77942888

>>77942871
why is that Eldar in space marine armor?

>> No.77942905

>>77942787
>dark mech never
>traitor guard never
why does one superfaction have like 8 armies and the other has 2

>> No.77942920

>>77942886
I'd make the fluff better represent the table.

>> No.77942921

>>77942886
Use words and logic to craft a narrative with your opponent rather than a game system

>> No.77942922

how do you decide what amount of detail is enough

>> No.77942924

>>77942886
By playing kill team or epic. 40k is a weird middle ground between the massive warzones and fire fights that actually happen in the setting.

>> No.77942925

>>77942871
Lets see the backsides of those wolves anon.

>> No.77942927

>>77942905
Geedumbs hates us

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>>77942685
Not him but I'ma be real with you, as much as I understand that crons were well established and that end of the day ANY major retcron would be bad for those that were invested in them, I think they ultimately made the wrong choice in making crons silent automata.

>> No.77942946

>>77942806

Unironically looks really great. I'd dedicate a film to him and his brave fighters.

>> No.77942948

>>77942922
Tabletop or parade ready for troops and go all out for characters.

>> No.77942949

>>77942879
Amusingly, it was Perturabo of all people who had a moment like this in the HH books (which are shit; don't read them), although it was less of a questioning of morals and more him thinking about what a shitty leader Horus was being

>> No.77942951

>>77942806
>rock up to the lgs with my hezbollah marines

>> No.77942959

>>77942879
Thinking the Imperium is the 'good guys', or that Chaos are the 'bad guys' is reductive. Every faction is fucking terrible. Chaos just doesn't lie about it. They don't have propaganda machines working to ensure the servitude of thousands of slave worlds, and even more serf worlds. Chaos wears their brutality as a badge of honor. The Secondborn are leashed if they cannot control themselves.

>> No.77942966

>>77942886
Every player is mandated to have one guard army and one ork army, and there's a coin flip to decide which they'll play in every game.

your options are guard vs orks
guard vs rebel guard
orks vs other orks

>> No.77942973

>>77942865
>files a recasted krieger once
>gets cancer

>> No.77942980

>>77941026
>TQ

Points (and power levels) are for chumps. My group and I just have narrative battles and campaigns with the appropriate stuff and that is good enough. Balance is for fags and terribly boring. Having the only objective be "win the game" is just as boring.

Of course, we play with facings, AV, and scatter too. 40k is actually fun in any edition when you just houserule shit and play amongst a group instead of being a pick-up plebeian. If you're not part of a gaming club you're missing out on 99% of the hobby. Tournies? Fag orgies. Pick-up games? Grinder fucks. Playing at a store? Vomit. Gaming groups are unironically the gentleman's way to play.

>> No.77942992

>>77942871
t. wolf butthole driller

>> No.77942996

>>77942886
Swap to a keword based system. Put together a comprehensive RAW, like MTG has.

This whole RAI thing is what ruins 40k tabletop. I have never seen another game that relies on intention over deliberate wording. Everything else can be built off of the back of a solid rules doc.

>> No.77943001
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>>77942922
>Go to a museum
>visit one of the miniature displays
>observe from various distances the quality of the details on the models
>decide for yourself how close you're going to be observing your units most of the time

>> No.77943005

>>77942886
Through narrative play and learning your group's interpretation of the fluff.

Fluff honestly is all over the place, with each codex championing its own faction as the final winner of 40k and the BL filled with "kids throw rocks into wave serpent engines and it explodes" level of writing since day 1. Better to understand if your fellow players are even on the same level fluffwise.

>> No.77943013
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77943013

These are the good guys >>77942959

>> No.77943014

>>77942871
>chaos eightpointed star on banner
no wonder the inquisition hates the space wolves

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>>77942925
You degenerates are all the same.

>> No.77943038

>>77943014
To be fair the wolf is stepping on/crushing the star
Although I thought there was fluff about the symbol itself being corruptive and having power of its own

>> No.77943039
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>>77941099
>>77942205
Everything in 40k should be ugly because it's an ugly time.

>> No.77943041

>>77942959
Look, maybe in past editions it was shades of grey, but at this point the Imperium is solidly not as bad as Chaos.

>> No.77943047

>>77942593
You have so many options
>buy molded pads for GW
>buy molded pads 3rd party pads
>buy transfers

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>>77943014
How else will chaos worshipers know what's coming for them?

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>>77943039
brutality does not necessarily mean ugly

>> No.77943075

>>77942582
>okay, call me retarded
You're retarded.

>> No.77943084

>>77942205
A big problem with these models is that GW demands their painters go all in on every single type of paint in their range. A lot of GW paints are complete DOGSHIT too. You can really tell when comparing GW's elf faces vs your random decent to great youtuber's elf faces.

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77943092

So aside from Living Saints and LoD, would this be a good look for the Angyls (Daemons) of the God-Emperor?

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77943105

>>77943092
>BE NOT AFRAID

>> No.77943107

>>77943005
the main problem with the fluff is that each writer has their own pet concepts that the other ones dont care about

its particularly noticeable in the HH series, where nobody other than Abnett gives a flying fuck about cabals and perpetuals

>> No.77943119

>>77943041
Guiliman and the Indomitus Crusade do not represent the entire Imperium, and all of that glitz and glory is built off of the back of slaves being ground into dust. Hundreds of thousands of hive worlds, inhospitable agriworlds, and slave mining planets.

The Ultramarines and their Primarch's goodness and pride are the Imperium's ultimate lie.

For every good intentioned Ultramarine, there is a thousand mortals surviving on corpse starch and recycled fluids. That ultramarine doesn't have his Bolter, he doesn't have his power armor, he doesn't have his training, and he doesn't have his chapter, without millions of mortals being ground to dust (literally and figuratively) to ensure it can happen.

>> No.77943131

>>77943070
turn those wolves around, anon.

>> No.77943135

>>77943084
It's mostly the heavy metal method. Most of the employees have decent stuff on their personal collection but gw makes them streamline everything so it all looks the same for the codexes.

>> No.77943142

>>77943041
>at this point the Imperium is solidly not as bad as Chaos
That still doesn't make them good.

>> No.77943145

>>77942593
https://www.themightybrush.com/product/knights-templar-crosses-waterslide-transfers-decals/

>> No.77943148

>>77943092
You must go back.

>> No.77943158

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/lyhi6y/i_painted_all_loyal_primarchs_in_40k/
This picture is fucking massive

>> No.77943159

>>77941026
>TQ
5500 I think

>> No.77943160

Scout sgts can take a combimelta and thunder hammer then deploy 9" away from the opponant. Will be doing this to take some wounds of vehicles and heavy infantry.

>> No.77943162

>>77942619
>Reikland is too dark
water it down?

>> No.77943175

>>77943092
New Valdor book says he has an army of Imperial demons, and goes into detail about it. Theory is pointless when there is a recent canonical answer to your question.

>> No.77943182

>>77942370
UwU nice musk sniff sniff uwu

>> No.77943183

I'm so fucking tired I just spent 15 minutes shopping around for bits to build wracks and only just realized the price of 3 wracks in bits with shipping comes to the same amount as buying a box of fucking wracks. I need sleep. Goodnight chuds

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>>77943119
And that's a good thing

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Post your latest!

>> No.77943196

>>77942658
I know I don't. I also don't call Eldar or Dark Eldar by their newer names.

>> No.77943198

>>77943142
>>77943119
Chaos is still the worst. Yeah the Imperium is shit, and people suffer, but at the end of the day its goal isn't the murder rape of every soul in the galaxy. I'm not trying to say the Imperium is good, I'm saying that Chaos is the absolute worst.
There is no shades of grey comparison if one side is literally pitch black evil. No matter how much ADB dick sucking of Chaos happens.

>> No.77943199

>>77942851
Anons, why did it fail? The only reason I'm not playing eldar right now with all the personalized Exarch rules is because 9e dropped and they have no current rules

>> No.77943210

I bought my first minis I want to start painting them tonight but it's dark outside and I can't see to prime them...

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>>77943158
>everyone except bobby is clearly wearing primaris helmets
For what reason?
Khan's hat looks fucking awesome though.

>> No.77943240

>>77943183
the real question is why do wracks come in boxes of 5 and kabalites/wyches in 10 when theyre both basic troops

>> No.77943248

>>77943210
>get news paper
>created barrier in bathroom
>turn fan on
>prime

>> No.77943258

>>77942905
>chaos (all soupable)
Daemons
CSM
DG
TSons
Chaos Knights

>imperium
sisters (soupable)
guard (soupable
custodes (soupable)
GK (not soupable)
marines (not soupable)
knights (soupable)

>> No.77943259

>>77943199
mostly because they marketed it poorly. turns out when you release a single kit for a soup faction and give it no support, people wont care about it

>> No.77943260

>>77943220
Going by how Cawl is there, Sanguinus is full Jesus, and Ferrus is in LOTD mode, I'd say this is the artist picturing them as all returned in 40k.

>> No.77943267

>>77943119
This would work better if you didn't single out the ultramarines specifically, and instead went towards space marines as a whole.

because the ultramarines are a good part of why ultramar isn't as shitty as everywhere else, and ultramar is where the ultramarines get all their shit from

>> No.77943269

>>77942806
I like the scheme, but I don't know about the weathering effect. It's made the green looks really chunky (particularly noticeable on the collar).

>> No.77943275

>>77943258
forgot admech which makes 5 soupable armies for each

>> No.77943283

>>77943131
I already did you perverted freak
>>77943017

>> No.77943286

>>77943248
too risky I'll get paint everywhere
I also don't have newspaper

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>>77941026
> What's the biggest points game you've ever played?

I once played in a Damocles Crusade apocalypse game that clocked in at 8000 points per side. It was all IG vs Tau Empire and it took us two days and three tables to play. One of our players just brought all the basilisks and manticores he could fit in his 2k list and was the artillery section for the whole army.

Pic only semi related.

>> No.77943302

What are some joke/meme lists, eg devastator squads without heavy weapons and using only bolters.

>> No.77943310

>>77943198
Each Chaos Marine must fend for himself. There is no tyrannical supply line. He lives and dies off of his skill, his battle brothers, and there is no army of slaves to arm him.

While Chaos is openly hostile and cruel, they actually produce less Daemons from the warp than a single Loyalist marine does. The thousands of serfs ground to nothingness creates more missery than any given Chaos Marine will in their service of the Long War.

And to affiliate every Traitor to the will and slavery of the Dark Gods is incredibly inaccurate. Chaos is the primary religion in the Eye, and the Gods offer many gifts to the loyal few, but Traitor Legions and Warbands are not slaves to the gods.

The only force that matches your interpretation of Chaos is the Black Legion.

>> No.77943314

>>77942966
This is also the most kino matchup, especially if the guard has a souped patrol of marines.

>> No.77943317

>>77943148
The fuck is your problem?

>> No.77943321

>>77943240
because they wanted to jew people. there is no other reason.

>> No.77943332

>>77941026
I played a 10k (maybe 12? I don't remember exactly) apocalypse game once with some friends.
Before the first turn began, the opposite team called in about a billion artillery strikes, which basically destroyed all of our troops (I did not know that was a thing so I had all of my troops deployed).
I never played apocalypse ever again.

>> No.77943333

>>77943240
wracks used to be elites

>> No.77943340

Artillery should not be something you buy and place on the field. If anything it should be something you buy and use a forward observer to call down accurate strikes with.

>> No.77943346

>>77943310
The iron warriors have an entire planet covered in slaves that they throw at each other in sieges for fun, flay alive for their skin, and turn into living disposable wombs for their unbirth fetish.

>> No.77943347

>>77943240
same reason dire avengers come in boxes of 5, so you can take the pillow and bite it

>> No.77943354

>>77943302
look up Tau Kroot lists

>> No.77943357

>>77943260
I get that. What I'm confused about is why they are wearing mark X armor when they have their own artificer suits.

>> No.77943360

>>77943302
This used to be a viable way to run havocs in 8th since they were just CSM squads that could take more heavy weapons

>> No.77943362

>>77943310
The whole "Renegade" thing sort of makes your point moot.
Some shitty Raven Guard company went renegade 10k years ago and they never fell to Chaos, and do all you just said. Also
>While Chaos is openly hostile and cruel, they actually produce less Daemons from the warp than a single Loyalist marine does
Source?

>> No.77943370

>>77943347
dire avengers used to come in 10 man boxes. wracks never did that i think

>> No.77943371

>>77943340
Same with flyers if we're talking about being realistic, but that dosen't sell models.

>> No.77943377

>>77943258
>DG
theyre CSM
>TS
theyre CSM

>> No.77943382

>>77942996
Waacfags like you are what ruins 40k, fuck off to mtg.

>> No.77943390

>>77943340
>And this guard squad is going to shoot you 3d6 times at s9
Give me danger close overwatch and ill buy in

>> No.77943394

>>77943377
they have their own codex so they get to be on their own. I'm correct and this isn't debatable

>> No.77943395

>>77943346
Daemonculaba was only used by one warband and it got destroyed
>>77943370
I just told you why wracks come in a box of 5: >>77943333

>> No.77943396

>>77943314
Sorry the marines were called away to another sector. Guard or Orks only.

>> No.77943407

>>77943340
Yeah but I want big guns go boom

>> No.77943410

>>77943310
thats not true though, there are thousands of dark forge worlds that supply the CSM

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Whats the best way to spam terminators in a 2000pt game?

>> No.77943413

>>77943310
>and there is no army of slaves to arm him.
Chaos apologists are THE best thing on this general, eternal entertainment. Also Mendregard disproves your entire point.

>> No.77943417

>>77943258
>(not soupable)
The fuck are you talking about
Losing out on doctrines doesn't mean you can't soup them

>> No.77943419

>>77943390
If you take a vox caster in your squads you can more or less do that.

>> No.77943429

>>77943394
youre incorrect and your mom is debatable

>> No.77943440

>>77943417
>losing the best part of the army means that you can still soup them

>>77943429
nah I just fucked her last night, can confirm

>> No.77943441

>>77943412
First one is not Saturnine and there is information on it

>> No.77943444

>>77943310
Finally, some bait with effort in this wasteland of a general.

>> No.77943455

>>77943440
>>losing the best part of the army means that you can still soup them
Yes. Objectively true.

>> No.77943459

>>77943258
>>77943417
By his logic then death guard aren't soupable either due to contagions.

>> No.77943470

>>77941026
Will anyone of us live long enough to see all codexes for 9th come out?

>> No.77943472

>>77943459
contagions aren't the best part of the army, it's mortarion

>> No.77943474

>>77943382
>wanting clear precise rules makes you WAAC
nigger what

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>>77943455
ah, a RAWfag

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>>77943310
>He lives and dies off of his skill
the boon of chaos is not your own talent

>his battle brothers
usurpers and thieves who would gut him for a chance at power

>there is no army of slaves to arm him
so soon we forget the lost and the damned

Pretty typical chaosfag stuff. A good return to form as opposed to political shitposting. 7/10

>> No.77943494

>>77943470
>Tfw there's a xenos player with cancer somewhere who will never see their codex
God it feels good to be a marine

>> No.77943512

>>77943494
He will never have to see his army get squatted either to make more room for Primaris garbage.

He is lucky.

>> No.77943536

>>77943512
Why do you think GW is so unwilling to pump out new xenos stuff?
Primaris Aelves

>> No.77943541
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Infantry guard chads, how do you transport your models?

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So are there literally zero marine things that are still waiting to be relased? There's no looming threat of another 3 months of dripfed marine stuff right?

>> No.77943552

>>77943302
I remember a GK list that took a purgation squad without heavy weapons just to fill out the 3 minimum for a detachment and take 2 land raiders

>> No.77943557

>>77941132
I never batch paint anything. I know it's shooting myself in the foot productivity wise, but i'd rather quit the hobby all together and burn my minis than ever paint the same color for more than 10 minutes at a time.

>> No.77943575

>>77943551
There are still tons of marines waiting to be released.

>> No.77943582

>>77943551
dont worry, theyll find some way to release new marineshit while eldar and guard still have models from the 90s

>> No.77943589

>>77943551
>Captain on Bike
>Primaris assault marines
>Librarian on Bike
>Sternguard Primaris
>Dreadnought Variants
Never let your guard down

>> No.77943590

>>77943362
Daemons come into being through thought, trauma, and emotion. The sheer number of slaves that go into creating and maintaining a single Space Marine dwarfs that of what it does to maintain a Chaos Marine.

Daemon worlds are a reality in the eye. Some are Forgeworlds. The vast majority of Traitor Marines don't have access to them. The Black Legion is one of a small handful of forces that actually has access to dark Forgeworlds. The Iron Warriors have integrated themselves into the Dark Mechanicum, and I don't know why they're even in the CSM codex, when they should be in a Dark Mech book, if lore was to be faithfully followed.

>>77943382
No fuck you, retard. A clear set of rules is completely agnostic of fluff. You can have all the lore and fluffy games you want, in a game with clear and objective rules. RAI cripples 40k as a game, and nothing says you can't just write your own rules for story based games, within a RAW system. Homebrew is a thing in MTG, and mods exist for Vidya, and both have a more or less hardcoded rules set.

>> No.77943601

>>77943541
Any army carrying case will do the job, really. Guard only get annoying to transport when you're bringing planes, since they take up so much fuckin' space.

>> No.77943603

>>77943551
do guardsmen frag their commissars? seems like something that'd be pretty common since they just summarily execute guardsmen

>> No.77943604

>>77943541
in Chimeras, obviously

>> No.77943607

>>77943589
none of those have been announced or even teased, none of the rumour engines are space marine related.

>> No.77943610

is it actually safe to prime minis in the bathroom with the fan going?

>> No.77943622

>>77943492
>Implying that even close to a quarter of Traitors have the blessing of the gods
>Implying the power struggle and internal politics of Chaos Warbands aren't the most interesting part
>Implying that the majority of Warbands have access to endless tides of mortals
Based lorelet.

>> No.77943625

>>77943610
YOU'LL GET CANCER!

>> No.77943632

>>77943607
that doesnt mean anything. some things are teased and then released a month later. some things are teased and released years later.

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>>77943017

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>>77943607
Tyrannic War Veterans (Primaris Ver.) then.

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>>77943632
so this is also true of new xenos models

>> No.77943649

>>77943610
Google chronic solvent-induced encephalopathy.

>> No.77943650

>>77943590
So CSM can just summon equipment out of the warp?

>> No.77943654

>>77943610
Use a mask if you do. I generally wouldn't want to use spray paint without really solid ventilation or being outside. I don't think bathroom fans are good enough on their own.

>> No.77943657

>>77943541
in-game? i have a valkyrie and a chimera. they're both really fun and do pretty good. in real life, i do something that al ot of people cringe at. I get a box capable of fitting my army, glue the sides and bottom with foam, then get a huge foam compress to stop them from moving and then seal the box. i used to just use blankets and towels

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>>77943541
I literally just put them into a plastic bin without padding, only officers and specialists get the comfort of an actual case. I once dropped a squad of guardsmen off the second floor balcony of my home, and they were totally fine. You don't need any foam to protect them.

>> No.77943665

>>77943635
post the greentext

>> No.77943669

>>77943654
I have a mask but I won't do it then. I'll just be patient and do it after work tomorrow.

>> No.77943674
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xlDJ9YMOVE

>> No.77943677

>>77943603
Commissars don't just machine gun their soldiers. They're mostly there to act as an advisor to regimental officers, to make sure they're acting in accordance with the Imperium's doctrines and overall strategies.

Hence why their old rules involved them executing unit leaders and taking command when the squad would otherwise break and run. A commissar executing someone isn't an everyday thing. The THREAT of that is what gives them their ominous reputation, as well as their generally intense demeanor.

>> No.77943710

>>77943650
The majority of Warbands are in a nonstop struggle for resources. Ammo, wargear, food, water, uncorrupted young males, geneseed, etc are not a given. Countless Warbands have been lost to thirst, not destruction in battle. Chaos Marines generally use out of date, scavenged, and patchwork armor, in various states of defacement. Wasting ammo is often meet with punishment from officers and peers alike

>> No.77943713

>>77943603
don't look up the average life expectancy of a commissar serving with a catachan regiment

>> No.77943719

>>77943551
I know we're waiting on a Heavy Intercessor box, there are going to be some in the new KT box-thing.

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>>77943719
those are already out though and even the separate boxes have already started popping up

>> No.77943725

>>77943710
And they get it mostly from raiding the imperium no?

>> No.77943745

>>77943713
IT
AIN'T
ME

>> No.77943756

>>77943610
the spraypaints we use are fine to breath in and wont kill you.

>> No.77943759

>>77943725
No, civil war is more prvelant than raiding Imperial space. Leaving the eye was a massive chore, until Abaddon split the galaxy in two. Only very recently, in m42, has Chaos been freely able to raid in Imperial space.

>> No.77943769

>>77943756
that doesn't sound right...

>> No.77943774

>>77943759
So CSM are basically irrelevant outside BL?

>> No.77943778

>Firstborn captain only on bike
>Primaris chaplain only on bike

why?

>> No.77943783

>>77943490
If they intended for certain factions to not be usable as allies then they would flat-out say that you couldn't do it, dumbass.

>> No.77943789

>>77943778
>tfw no libby or apothecary on bike

>> No.77943790

>>77943769
on a scale of harmful sprays they are a 1 when stuff you use to clean your car is a 10.

i really wouldnt worry about it

>> No.77943815

>>77943769
Dude, you're most likely using latex paint, I bet you wouldn't even think twice to spray your room with some kind of cleaner or air freshener.

>> No.77943826

>>77943724
Oh, what the hell, they aren't on the GW site or in my LGS.
Is there a street date?

>> No.77943830

>>77943107
Tell me more

>> No.77943832

>>77943603
Commissars often go missing when assigned to catachan regiments, there was some lore written about how they don't work well together.

>> No.77943840

>>77943830
why

>> No.77943853

>>77943603
If command finds out that your regiment has killed a commissar - you're dead. Either by conversion into a penal regiment with explosive collars or by being declared excommunicate.

>> No.77943860

>>77943774
Iron Warriors have been integrated into DarkMech. Alpha Legion fuck off and do secret loyalist shit. Night Lords are scattered in various warbands. Word Barers are scattered across legion, but have some planets, rarely a unified offensive force, but it happens. World Eaters are almost completely dissolved across other Legions and Warbands. Thousand Sons are also mostly dissolved, with very, very few living Marines in their ranks, compared to Rubrici. Death Guard are a unified threat. Emperor's Children are somewhat unified, but will break off on whims.

Black Legion, Red Corsairs, and Death Guard are the only militarized forces in the Eye that can fight the Imperium head to head, in major wars. The rest rely on lightning steikes and raiding.

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>>77942854

Is this better, then?

>> No.77943886

>>77942479
where do you think you are

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>>77943853
Just write "friendly fire" in the report you big jabroni.

>> No.77943916

>>77943860
>Iron Warriors have been integrated into DarkMech.
That's not true.

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>>77941153
International womans day was created by a communist to divide the family structure.
And ywnbaw.

>> No.77943946

>>77943412
Play dark angels

>> No.77943953

>>77943190
Like the osl in the back, just the right amount.

>> No.77943961

>>77943649
do you think you can get that from a fucking regular spray paint?

i bet you think axe causes brain damage

>> No.77943986

DE bros, are mandrakes any good? I might start a little army if I can play a lot of those guys, they're cool.

>> No.77943996

>>77943961
Axe body spray is more of a sign of brain damage really.

>> No.77943999

>>77943986
theyre pretty good but the models are finecast shit

>> No.77944022
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77944022

>friend never wins at 40k
>gets upset that he never wins
>tell him he either needs to learn to prioritize hanging out with mates over winning or to get better at absorbing knowledge of how to play his armies
>"nah I just want to win more, I don't want to listen to hours of competitive players ramble. Should I just buy another $800 army? Can you just play me at a 20 VP deficit or something?"

>> No.77944028

>>77943916
Would it please your autism for me to say that the two are borderline inseperable, or that they are incredibly close allies? Maybe that IW worlds naturally attract massive amounts of DarkMech, and vise versa? Usually DarkMech worlds are garrisoned by Iron Warriors. Usually there is a massive DarkMech presence on IW worlds.

Do independent IW Warbands exist? Yes. Is that the majority? You tell me. I say no. And where they do exist, they are less unified and powerful than their DarkMech supported sister Warbands.

>> No.77944029

>friend bitchs about the paint I use
>complains about my paintjob, it's not great but they're literally the first models I painted and there's definitely worse out there
>wants to try painting with his own paints
>give him a model I don't care much about and leave him to it
>he completely fucks it up

>> No.77944030

>>77943649
googling illnesses just makes you paranoid and neurotic
it's like when you look up why your toe itches and webmd tells you that you have 5 different kinds of cancer

>> No.77944048

>>77943961
Anon, do you know why the spray paint is liquid in the can? Because it has a solvent agent in it, which evaporates after you spray it. If you sprayprime in your bathroom with one measly low pressure fan going and no mask you're going to be breathing in that evaporating solvent.
What is so farfetched about this to you?

>> No.77944058

>>77944028
>Would it please your autism for me to say that the two are borderline inseperable, or that they are incredibly close allies?
No since you're making Darkmech sound like a unified faction and not a term for any chaos-aligned mechanicum dudes

>> No.77944068

>>77944030
No anon it's nothing like that. Huffing spray paint is bad for you, it's a fact.

>> No.77944077

>>77944048
I use spray paint on my back deck, the wind carries it over to the neighbors yard where their kids play.

>> No.77944081

>>77944048
you could be spraying chaos black all day for years and it would be less dangerous than 1 repaint of a car.

>> No.77944092

>>77943999
oh fug...

>> No.77944097

>>77944068
Africans huff their own shit.

>> No.77944107

>>77944081
Really interested in how you're so sure about this.

>> No.77944108

>>77944022
40k is a game with trash balance, and a ton of lore/gameplay inbalances. Buying a new army in the face of your faction being something you don't enjoy, is more or less a rational thing to do if the game itself is a major part of your 40k hobby. Ofc he could be just a fucking retard. What faction does he play?

>> No.77944111

>>77944068
No one is talking about huffing the paint

>> No.77944118

>>77944081
have you ever watched someone repaint a car?
they wear a heavy-duty mask...

>> No.77944121

>>77944077
that's fine

>> No.77944146

>>77944118
thats what i mean.

you spray so rarely and for such short times that it wont effect you. im saying its good, you can get a headache. but people acting like its dangerous and you will brain damage/lung damage are delusional.

>> No.77944149

>>77944108
he's been playing necrons for a while, and as far as I know they're not even that bad and can be run in a ton of ways

>> No.77944152

Why do countries bother with nukes if Citadel paint is apparently just as deadly?

>> No.77944159

>>77943494
thanks I guess. thick skin is about all that's left at this point. sold off the last of my unopened kits last week. fiance wants to keep my weirdboy and a deffdread, the rest of my deathskulls are going to the flgs. they're going to be used as a store army, my screaming green retards will outlast me.

>> No.77944181

>>77944152
the nukes are cheaper

>> No.77944184

>>77942806
>This miniature dedicated to the brave mujahedeen fighters of Afghanistan

Looks great, though the weathering makes sorta a chalky effect.

Maybe make the base desert style and replace that sort of weathering with just dust?

>> No.77944210

>>77942806
you didn't drill the barrel

>> No.77944213

>>77944149
Necrons are mono-build right now. It is reaper silver tide+scarabs+melee destroyers, and that build makes the other Necron options look like fucking jokes.

Reaper Warriors, Ctan, Crypteks, Nobles, melee Destroyers, Tomb Blades, Scarabs, Wraiths, and Silent King are their only good choices. Everything else is a trap.

>> No.77944250

I NEVER DRILLED HOLES IN MY WOLVES, STOP BRINGING IT UP!

>> No.77944255

>>77944213
I don't think we play at a level where only top tier army compositions thrive considering I play iron hands and knights and the other friend plays tau and CSM

>> No.77944277

>>77944255
I'm just saying, Necrons range from competitive, to totally non-viable depending on model and dynasty choice.

If you're playing Marines, the baseline threshold for power is infinitely higher than Necrons, and while Necrons can compete and be a good army they have to use their strong options to do so.

>> No.77944293

>>77944277
marines aren't just nebulously good, iron hands, fists and raven guard are barely better than the average power-level army

>> No.77944316

>>77944293
Their models are, even if the rules aren't. A bad Necron army has a near infinitely lower power floor than any marine chapter. Balance in 40k punishes at the casual level, not at the competitive level.

>> No.77944327

>>77944293
heh, I remember when iron hands were the new hotness for a minute

>> No.77944328

>>77943999
>>77944092
Convert them from deepkin infantry.

>> No.77944335

>>77944293
What dynasty does he run, and what is his army composition?

>> No.77944388

>>77944293
>marines aren't just nebulously good

They really are, they have a ridiculously high power floor that are near some armies ceilings.

>> No.77944402

Ultras heavy intercessors w/ the heavy bolt rifles are fucking nuts.

>> No.77944406

>>77944316
This man speaks the truth. Plenty of Xenos armies can be constructed by casuals and come out terrible. Timmy throwing his marines down on the table, no matter how random his unit selection, will at least do OKAY.

>> No.77944411

>>77944335
which ever one gives his reapers the better range

>> No.77944431

>>77944411
He's running trash.

>> No.77944439

>>77944388
assuming skill level is the same, a shitty chapter will do better and low skills, about on par-slightly better at medium and almost certainly worse at high skill levels assuming the opponent is playing something middle of the road

>> No.77944452

>>77944431
it turns out that not everyone is a meta-chaser

>> No.77944472

>>77944439
Try again

>> No.77944475

>>77944452
Yeah, but it means his complaints about the power of his army are legitimate.

>> No.77944493

>>77944475
if playing 2 blobs of 15 warriors, a bunch of skorpehk destroyers, doomstalkers, void dragon and wraiths aren't good enough to beat tau then I don't know what to tell ya

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77944511

Playing Crusade at the flgs. It’s been fun and I’ve done well, but there’s one player doing knights...knights with crusade rules are totally absurd. He has one knight that has literally never been destroyed. Today he beat my 90 power marines army with 65 power of knights. He’s just totally untouchable.

How the fuck so I deal with this shit?

>> No.77944519

>>77944493
>No Scarabs
His build is terrible. Scarabs are THE definitive option to shut down shooting. It's like 45 points for 4 wounds of fuck you, that you can blow up for mortal wounds at 1cp.

>> No.77944533

>>77944511
How can knight be bullying you as space marines?

You have some of the best anti knight units in the game.

>> No.77944534

>>77944406
It's honestly true for most armies besides marines. The amount of effort you have to put into building a working CSM list vs primaris just grabbing a few marines, some characters and a dread and being just as good if not better than an actual constructed list from other armies is frustrating.

>> No.77944542

>>77944493
Also, on top of Scarabs, Reanimation math is better with max unit sizes. At 15, he's getting hosed by blast, but not getting the benefit of a large unit. He either needs to run blobs of 20, or run Immortals in 10s. 15 warriors is middle of the road garbage that doesn't take advantage of any Necron mechanics

>> No.77944545

>>77944519
there are a few scarabs and a spyder in the list but they never did enough in my games against him so I just didn't mention them

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Does anyone knows about a good custom head for the Sororitas? One that looks like a human at least, not even needs to be female

>> No.77944572

>>77944533

...ok, what are they?

He just sits at the very back of the field with a knight tyrant, blowing everything apart. I managed to put 9 wounds on it after firing my entire army at it for two turns.

>> No.77944579

>>77944534
Yea CSM have to minmax to hell and back to have a viable build. Fortunately our coolest models, Abaddon, Termi Sorc and Terminators, are good right now. I want this 30+ cultists garbage to stop. Wounds update when?

>> No.77944598

>>77944545
Yea that's a problem and it means he isnt using them correctly. If he sends them to engage against chaff, he's a retard. The only time you'd feed Scarabs to chaff is to deny tactical doctrine shots. Spiders are bad.

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>>77944572

>> No.77944624

>>77944511
you aren't using eradicators? or the dozen of other good anti tank options? what is your anti tank?

>> No.77944657

>>77944601

24” range.

Can’t get close enough. I do have a unit of them that managed to get off a shot last game. 6 shots, 4 hits, 2 wounds, one save off his 4++. Then he killed the unit effortlessly.

>> No.77944680

>>77944624

I have eradicators, lascannon turrets, vanguard vets with fists, heavy hellblasters.

He has t8 and a 2+ 4++ with 28 wounds.

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77944685

>>77944657
You outflank them, you silly billy.

>> No.77944715

>>77944685
do people unironically take 6 man squads of eradicators? seems excessive

>> No.77944742

>>77944715
They generally split them up

>> No.77944796

>>77944715
Combat squads.

>> No.77944797

>>77943860
Get your headcanon out of here. Word Bearers are one of the most intact.

>> No.77944822

>>77944742
>>77944796
you still have to pay for the bloated PL cost, one full squad of erads won't just automatically blow up a knight and they'd just die afterwards anyway
the correct way to kill a knight is to still just charge them with shit like vanguard vets and stab them to death

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77944855

Keep him or just use the regular assault sergeant?

>> No.77944861

>>77944822
Both are valid options. The point being is that a marine player shouldn't be getting bullied by a knight player

>> No.77944888

>>77944534
I expect we'll see other armies become better at their niches as they get codexes. If everyone gets the Necron treatment then it'll feel less bad to be not-Space-Marines.

>> No.77944938

>>77944715
I use a squad of 5 with an apothecary to keep them alive longer.

>> No.77944959

I've been debating using a 3d printer for minis and buildings is it worth getting one?

>> No.77944978

>>77944959
Do it then sell models with more options and poses, gw is only going to continue making monopose models.

>> No.77944986

>>77944822
having faced marines all i can ask is where are your buffing characters? Lt to reroll 1s or captain/chapter master for full rerolls. that's what's been slapping my keeper of secrets silly at range

>> No.77945003

>>77944978
That's why everyone is going to get the plague marine secret

>> No.77945015

>>77944861

>got in with 5 fist vanguard vets
>hit on 2s due to crusade shenanigans
>deals 4 wounds to the knight and are all destroyed in the swing back

>> No.77945026

>>77945015
>using fists
well there's your first problem

>> No.77945063

>>77944855
Keep

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>>77945015
>charges a knight with 5 guys with powerfists
>is upset they didn't wipe a 500pt model in one turn

Marine players, everyone.

>> No.77945103

>>77945015
power fists are not anti-knight weapons
is this a troll

>> No.77945104

>>77945080

>just use vanguard vets idiot
>heh...imagine expecting vanguard vets to do anything.

I wasn’t expecting them to kill the knight. I was expecting them to do more than 4 damage.

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77945117

Is it rude to bring a whole assassin crew?

>> No.77945119

>>77945103

Do vanguard vets have another weapon that are better against knights?

>> No.77945121

>>77945103
I mean, Chain Fists are good anti-vehicle, but still, he's not using terminators and he only has 5 dudes going in.

>> No.77945139

>>77945119
Thunder Hammers

>> No.77945166

>>77945117
outrageously rude

>> No.77945169

>>77945015
I hope you remembered that the knight doesn't get an invuln in combat

>> No.77945172

>>77945104
135 pts of vets aren't going to do much to a 620pt killing machine.

>> No.77945176

>>77945166
So do it every battle.

>> No.77945179

>>77945103
>That feel when you removed a Knight with 5 Blade Guard Veterans, with damage to spare.

>> No.77945195

>>77945169

He has a relic. Has a 4++ at all times

>> No.77945199

>>77945119
Use scouts instead.

>> No.77945214

>>77945195
that's not a relic that even exists...

>> No.77945220

>>77945214
They're playing crusades

>> No.77945228

>>77945117
i've fought them, they're not impressive. even with the sniper i just hide my characters and cast powers out of line of sight

>> No.77945233

>>77945220
then the original premise of the discussion is silly

>> No.77945262

>>77945214

Well then I guess he was ignorant of the rules. Might be part of the issue.

>> No.77945281

>>77945233

The premise is “Jesus Christ how do we deal with a knight tyrant that has 5 crusade levels.”

>> No.77945304

>>77945233
You only have yourself to blame for not reading the thread chain

>> No.77945309

>>77945214
>>77945262
Veil of Medrengard you dopes

>> No.77945322

>>77945117
Go for it. Use the culexus against units that have a high save but no invulnerable.

>> No.77945370

>>77945309
Ranged only.

>> No.77945382

>>77945228
>being forced to hide characters
That's reason to use any kind of sniper, you can't use characters to full effect.

>> No.77945413

Fresh bread

>>77944473
>>77944473
>>77944473

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77945417

>>77943289
who won?

>> No.77945430

>>77944213
Why melee Destroyers instead of Lychguard? Those guys were buffed.

>> No.77945656

>>77941639
imagine yelling that. You'd sound like such a fucking faggot, holy shit.

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77946079

hey... uh... what's everyone's favorite lewd/nsfw sculpts/proxy/kitbash/stand ins...?

>> No.77946116

>>77946079
Ghamak's new GSC Magus would be great if his style and proportions weren't so retarded.

>> No.77946446

>>77944250
Anon, the copypasta is about some rando at an LGS, not you

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