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Bans from yesterday
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/february-15-2021-banned-and-restricted-announcement?x=iazoidrnet

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES:
>Current meta, complete with deck list
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
http://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share cubes
https://www.cubetutor.com/
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://gatherer.wizards.com/
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
Your local chinaman (Villa Zheng or Black Lotus)
Your printer + bulk cards + sleeves can also do the trick
>Library of in-demand alters
https://mega.nz/folder/DWBRwIpK#CLilq5z0hPY6iDfgsCu3sQ

>Previous
>>77558186

>TQ
Let's be #MagicPositive and share anything from the FIRE era you liked.

>> No.77567771

>>77567714
big nig teferi is honestly the best example of powerful design but not this t3feri OP FIRE bullshit.
same with all the nicol bolas cards.

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>>77567714
>Let's be #MagicPositive and share anything from the FIRE era you liked.
No.

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Believe

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reposting my shitpile for some constructive criticism
a couple of notes:
- I don't have city of brass/gemstone mine
- TKS is in the sideboard because I thought it was funny lmao
- phyrexian unlife feels too slow so I just overloaded the deck with cantrips

>> No.77567981

>>77567714
I liked Mystic Sanctuary. I like how everything not banned in legacy has ended up making my 100 card lands deck more powerful, and all of the cards that were good against that deck (astrolabe and dreadhorde) were banned.
I kinda like legacy UB ninjas.

>> No.77568035

>>77567714
>TQ
The yearlong drought might be gone, but what is left is still a broken, dead land

>> No.77568100

>>77567714
Dominaria draft was cool and I really like Sagas as a design

Thats it

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>>77567714
>Let's be #MagicPositive and share anything from the FIRE era you liked.
I think The Royal Scions is a perfectly good Planeswalker card with an elegant design and I think Will and Rowan have the potential to be excellent characters in the MtG multiverse. However I do not think WotC will actually do anything interesting with them, at best WotC might ship them with the new Trannywalker or something

>> No.77568148

>>77568113
will is already implied to be a faget

>> No.77568264

How is Pioneer as a format?

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>>77567853
Here is an idea for a similar deck. Ad Nauseam featuring Emry and Mox Amber. Pentad Prism, Lotus Bloom, and Mox Amber all work great with her and it covers for SSG being banned. You end up being slower but more consistent. Run Remand instead of Pact and bank on either slowing your opponent down with multi function cantrips or buy yourself enough time with Phyrexian Unlife. And yes you would be running T3feri, it slows your opponent, cantrips you, stops counter magic, and turns on Mox Amber. To top off your legendaries you could either run flip Jace or a couple copies of Spoils as an alternative to investing 5 mana into Ad Nauseam.

I don't know how else to improve that deck besides maybe a Wishclaw Talisman. You go so hard on a 3 piece 4 mana combo that you don't leave any room for interaction to slow an opponent so you can get there to begin with. Unironically play UB Twiddlestorm and ascend beyond the realm of petty magic.

>> No.77568395

>>77567853
Shouldn't you play Remand instead of Angel's Grace?

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>>77568366
Fuck I'm an autistic
Lotus Bloom DOES NOT work with Emry.

>> No.77568432

>>77568148
Why does every new fucking character have to be black, gay or trans? How is it that WotC has been making these fucking shameless self-insert value engines for almost 15 years and we still don't have a Lizardman Planeswalker? I swear to god if WotC gives another fucking literally who generic human walker I am going to scream, we have way too many characters already we don't fucking need more of them, especially not uninteresting vapid self-insert tranny shit.

>> No.77568447

>>77568264
Gay. Play premodern.

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>>77568447
Wanna play Premodern Bro?

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>>77568264
It's way too early to say, Wilderness Reclamation piles + Uro/T3feri decks + Oops All Spells were combined easily 30~40% of the total meta and now they're basically all gone except for a few decks. The bans were even more drastic then Modern if we are being honest.

We can only make a couple of observations like
- Mono Green Planeswalkers is now probably the best big mana deck in the format
- Niv/Omnath decks can still exist but not having Uro/T3f means they are extremely softer to aggro
- Consequentially Auras, Burn, Mono Black and other low curve aggro decks are much stronger
- Spirits is still probably the best Collected Company deck in the format
- Lotus Storm didn't lose anything but it's going to suffer because of the rise of the aggro decks
- There's probably a good control deck in UBX colors thanks to all the good black removal + DTT people haven't found yet
- Anything that used to be considered fringe can now have a chance in the meta as long as it has a good matchup against aggro

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77568526

Nahiri's ability to make Kor tokens is reference to her being a milky mommy right?

>> No.77568549

>>77568432
>we still don't have a Lizardman Planeswalker?
This is what's known as the Princess Leia rule. Basically, unless you can see Princess leia kissing that character, they're probably not going to exist

>> No.77568575

>>77568509
How absolutely punished is our boy Sorin gonna be when we go back to Innistrad for the 3rd time?

>> No.77568577

>>77568366
>maybe a Wishclaw Talisman
sounds good, thank you

>>77568395
there are 2 combos in the deck:
Inverter + Thassa's Oracle with 2 or less cards in my graveyard (which becomes my library)
Angel's Grace + Spoils of the Vault naming a card not in my deck + Thassa's Oracle on a empty library

removing Angel's Grace means the second combo doesn't exist anymore since I take 40+ damage to get rid of my library with Spoils

>> No.77568609

>>77568447
That format sucks ass. Bunch of 1 sided matchups, little consistency, and games that go on forever without intrigue. Would much rather play pre-innistraad legacy, casual historical standard, or peasant.

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>>77568480
You're right. Let's get real degenerate.

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>>77568480
Well, yes.

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Break it down to me boys.
Will 8 rack ever become playable again?
I feel like everything is a perfect topdeck/draws cards/replaces itself.
Even with Uro and Sanctuary gone.

Will my deck ever be good again?

>> No.77568690

>>77568549
who could say that leia wouldn't want to kiss a giant lizard?

>> No.77568702

Decks that should surge in popularity after the bans:

Urza
Jund
UW control
Tron
Humans
Shadow
...

What do you think?

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>>77567714
Thought I could get some critique on this deck I built? Seems strong for kitchen table but all the stores closed so I cannot test it.

>> No.77568739

>>77568702
>Urza
Only in legacy. Without opal, I don't see it doing too well against the traditional gatekeepers of the format even though I want it so bad.

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>>77567789
I miss old artwork.

>> No.77568769

>>77568575
Kek we have been saying this for return to the return to Zendikar and we got no good Vampire. They are very careful to not print anything overtly powerful.
>>77568577
Okay, nevermind.
>>77568739
Just use mox amber bro.

>> No.77568780

>>77568549
Why would princess leia want to kiss a trans planeswalker?

>> No.77568805

>>77568702
Bliitz and burn are back on the menu too.

>> No.77568818

>>77568739
Also it was a prominent deck after Opal got banned, the problem is that Astrolabe got banned too.
I'd say we can just put Emry+Amber and figure something out. Probably in the same old UB shell. Or maybe Grixis with Goblin Engineer.

>> No.77568824

>>77568769
What's your ideal turn 1? 0 drop, amber, zero drop, emry, goose? Turn 2 Urza?

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>>77568769
Pic related is a good 3 drop tho.

>> No.77568926

>>77568805
Yes but those were always good because they're fast.
>>77568824
Turn 1 probably hand disruption or cheap artifacts, dunno, haven't been playing in ages, I completely forgot what the deck runs.
Also if you play Grixis there's also Galvanic Blast.
>>77568860
Yeah but I meant for Sorin&Tell.

>> No.77569005

>>77568664
Memory Jar is banned you dork

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>>77569005
>Implying you wouldn't enter the tournament just to try and trick someone into believing your deck is legal.
Come on man, it's like you're not even try to play cheatyface. Did I get you? Do I get to keep my 2/2 flyer?

>> No.77569139

the NuMeta™ in Legacy is gonna be Hullbreacher shell vs. everything else

>> No.77569163

>>77569005

memory jar costs 5 fucking mana and could be safely unbanned in legacy

>> No.77569170

>>77568702
Burn is usually the only deck I see that spikes after bannings.

>> No.77569239

>>77568509
What does vampires need in Innistrad 3 to be viable? Sorin is a huge piece of the puzzle in cheating things out.

>> No.77569264

>>77569163
not at all

>> No.77569270

>>77569121
I would like to see Un-Set cards have legal counterparts like how Barren Glory is a legalized The Cheese Stands Alone (but not under current play design).

Planar Intruder
UUU
Creature - Efreet
Flash
Flying
If each of your opponents control at least two lands, you may pay 0 rather than this card's mana cost. If you do, any opponent may pay 1. If that player does, counter Planar Intruder.

>> No.77569301

>>77569163

>going back to 4 memory jar legacy is fine

>> No.77569323

>>77569270
I would love to have a usable version of [redacted horse stuff]'s ability to make rares and mythics cost 1 less to play. Let me play my pile of expensive trash.

>> No.77569340

>>77569239
>Generic Vampire Name
>1BW
>When ~ enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless it escaped.
>Whenever ~ enters the battlefield or attacks, you gain 3 life and draw a card, then you may put a Vampire with CMC 2 or less from your hand onto the battlefield.
>Escape BBWW, exile 5 other cards from your graveyard

>> No.77569433

>>77569340
>WOTC ever giving B/W ramp
With the blatant way at how they're ignoring the color pie. I wouldn't be surprised.

>> No.77569450

>>77569433
black can do anything
it can even kill enchantments now

>> No.77569583

>>77568721
You can test in on cockatrice x-mage, or MTGO.
>>77569264
Test it and see what happens. I don't know if it's safe, but Mind's Desire has been on the legacy ban list for years and would see roughly 0 play if it was unbanned. I've gotten everyone who thinks it's broken to try building a deck to break it and literally everyone failed, and that was years ago. Wouldn't be shocked if jar was the same.

>> No.77569606

>>77568764
would love to see some hellish polak Zdzisław Beksiński style art and not just because it's edgy. something that challenges the norms atleast. same mckimmon was a good start

>> No.77569610

>>77569583
minds desire sucks because tendrils is just better.
memory jar can be goblin weldered. it can be cheated into play with fast mana like grim monolith and sol lands. jar is fucked.

>> No.77569612

>>77569606
>same mckimmon

>> No.77569672

>>77569610
Ok so try it. I'm not committing to any position, but I don't think that that's definitely better or more consistent than hullbreacher into Echo the Eons.
Maybe it is, but I'd like to see some promise.

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>>77569583

>Mind's Desire has been on the legacy ban list for years and would see roughly 0 play if it was unbanned.

exactly.
i've also been curious over which banned cards are certainly safe or probably safe:

certainly safe:
yawgmoth's bargain
frantic search
mind's desire
earthcraft
goblin recruiter
mind twist
necropotence

probably safe:
memory jar
library of alexandria
survival of the fittest

my gut feeling is that library is actually "certainly safe", but i haven't tried to brew enough. i just struggle to come up with a single current meta legacy deck that it would slot into and have an impact, nor can i envision what nonexistence deck would suddenly be enabled by it.

>> No.77569738

>>77569606
see pathologic 2 artwork

>> No.77569765

>>77569735
This is the worst post I've ever read

>> No.77569772
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>WOTC won't do a Japanese exclusive Ayami Kojima special art cards for Innistrad 3
Since they already did Amano, I want a Kojima Sorin

>> No.77569874

>>77569772
Wasn't sure who that was but after looking her up and seeing she did cover art for some of the venia games, would be cool.

>> No.77569931

>>77569735
this may be the most retarded post i've seen in the past 6 months. holy shit.

>> No.77569932

>>77569735
>goblin recruiter
This wasn't even totally safe before goblins became decent, it actually isn't safe now, and would probably make goblins from tier 2/2.5 into tier 1. Wouldn't even say this is over 50% safe.
>yawgmoth's bargain
That should be at most probably safe. Basically just an AN that doesn't have restrictions with a lower fail rate. Not necessarily too good, but at most probably safe.
>necropotence
If you've ever tested this you'd know how wrong you are. I just put it as a 4 of in ANT a while ago and you never don't win the turn after it resolves.
>a single current meta legacy deck that it would slot into and have an impact
You can literally just run 4 in ANT, or at least put 4 in sideboard and you'll rarely ever lose a game against control. It also works with different types of loam decks.
>survival of the fittest
Literally has only gotten more powerful since it was banned.
I don't really know about mind twist one way or the other.

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>>77569874
She's pretty dope. Innistrad just seems to be the perfect plane for her to do any art. But since it's WOTC they'll probably pull some weird secret lair BS with it if they decide to ever do it.

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>>77567853
Dude just play 4c inverter.

>> No.77570015

>>77569935
you will take your secret lair crossover with blade and you like like it

>> No.77570131

>>77570015
>Blade
oh god you're right, with how pozzed they are they're probably going for Blackulas and Blade.

>> No.77570232

>>77568100
basically this

amazing how sagas shitting out a finite amount of value instead of infinite makes them infinitely more likeable

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Choose your house, /mmg/.

>> No.77570246

>>77569932
I feel like making goblins better isn't the worst thing. Stacking your deck with them is good why? Obviously muxxus and ringleader get better, but I don't see the deck overtaking the meta.
Bargin is way worse than Ad, Ad has so many 0 costs to hit that on average you could get away with more cards.
Survival is elves playable. Is it too good for elves? Probably, but with this and the supposed tier-1ing of goblins with recruiter, it would help to push some of the blue decks to their limits and spice up the higher tiers of legacy.

>> No.77570257

>>77570234
>it's not like harry potter
>it just has a wizard school with houses

>> No.77570274

>>77567850
That's an alter, right?
No way wizards would print a nigger in one of the most iconic artifacts in the almost 30 years of mtg's history.

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Feels so good to be back,

>> No.77570337

>>77569450
Yes, but white can't do anything because another color gets it now :^)

>> No.77570384

>>77570257
Why ripoff Harry Potter now and not ten years ago?

>> No.77570416

>>77570234
man, monocolored schcools would've been way cooler.

>> No.77570428

>>77570234
>>77570257
Kek. The merchants really have no shame.

>> No.77570457

>>77570234
This looks like some cheap Chinese knock off. I am literally laughing right now at the absolute lack of artistic value of this game.

>> No.77570494

>>77570234
witherbloom sounds BG, so maybe enemy colours?

>> No.77570531

>>77570323
Is it time to sleeve up good old RUG delver with goyfs?

>> No.77570535

>>77570494
Hope we finally get those commands

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>>77568526
>you will never get to try kor cheese
feels bad, man

>> No.77570634

>>77570606
Never say never, maybe you're a planeswalker and just haven't nearly died to ignite your spark yet.

>> No.77570663

>>77570531
Goyf will probably never be good in modern again.

>> No.77570684

>>77570246
>Stacking your deck with them is good why? Obviously muxxus and ringleader get better
Yeah obviously, also sets up conspicuous snoop infinite with a single card. I tried it before Muxus or Snoop and found it to be way stronger than I expected. Maybe those add less than I expect, but I'd expect control/midrange to be virtually unable to beat a resolved recruiter at the very least.
>Ad has so many 0 costs to hit that on average you could get away with more cards.
Sure, but taking more cards guaranteed probably makes up for the better average number of cards AN (AN gets on average (LifeTotal-1)*6/5, while Bargain always gets Lifetotal-1). There's also the aspect of being significantly better with LEDs (more important for ANT than TES) and tendrils life gain, or Weather the Storm for that matter. Playing an S&T to get with wishclaw is also a decent synergy, which would probably be used.
>Survival in elves playable
Why the fuck are you playing Survival in Elves? It's just a 1 card engine and tutor and combo in Maverick style decks. I can't even imagine it in elves.

>> No.77570739

>>77570663
Who the fuck plays modern?

>> No.77570762

>>77569765
>>77569931

feel free to amaze us all with your library of alexandria brews that will compete with the top tier legacy decks

>> No.77570765

>>77570384
They're behind the curve. They blame it on working on sets years in advance but the reality is that they just don't have the pulse of what's "in". See: TWD secret lair.

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>>77570234
>>77570494
That'd be my guess, Quandrix sounds like the lol wackey exploding science house. so the houses will probably shake out as

BW:Silverquil
RW:Lorehold
UG:Prismari
BG:Witherbloom
UR: Quandrix

I'm more bothered by wotc's "ITS TOTALLY NOT HARRY POTTER GUYS! TRUST US" granted wotc has proven over the last half decade that they're only interested in keeping things surface level so not to make normalfags feel stupid or offend their narrow view of the cultures and mythologies magic barrows from. rather than give us an actually interesting plane to run around in.

Fuck even Dominaria felt shallow when you think about all the shit that has happened on that plane that they could have played with or used.

>> No.77570856

>>77570776
I know people liked Dominaria as much as one could like a recent set but it really didn't feel or look like the Dominaria on old border cards.

>> No.77570890

what are the most interesting formats to play these days?

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>> No.77570928

>>77570776
As long as they shit single plane sets they will keep being shallow.God, Alara had more behemoths than Ikoria, these new sets reek of "stay within the market research tastes, don't stray"

>> No.77570969

>>77570928
Best chance is to wait for that shithead CEO leave

>> No.77570994

>>77570246
just google survival deck with vengevines before it was banned - it was fucking brutal deck
chains like: vine,vine, rootwalla rootwala are insane

>> No.77570999

>>77570928
And "market research tastes" means a sample of 5000 redditors.

>> No.77571014

>>77570928
I'm unironically happy about the one set visit thing because I hate all the worlds since it was debuted. Other than Dominaria, none of the worlds they've gone to have been worth a three set block.

>> No.77571032

>>77570890
Bliitz and Classical on Lichess are my favourite.

>> No.77571107

>>77570890
premodern

>> No.77571139

>>77570890
premodern

>> No.77571185

>>77570890
stock market

>> No.77571219

>>77570890
Pre-innistraad Legacy

>> No.77571274

>>77570890
Modern if you want to actually play

>> No.77571308

>>77570890
pioneer and as long as you dont run into delverniggers legacy

>> No.77571327

>>77570999
"Market research" needs to die. honestly most consumers don't know what the fuck they actually want in a product, and that's not just magic.

>>77571014
maybe those planes would be worth a 3-set block if they actually tried and worked to make them interesting. but if you're doing 1-set per plane you have no incentive to make it worth hanging around.

I also think the 3-set blocks were a more interesting draft environment just for the fact that each new set played with the previous set so you got to see cards fluctuate in power over the year. now with each new set the draft environment is a completely clean slate.
we did get that with the 2-set blocks, but it was more fun to watch things morph over the year with a once a year clean slate vs the twice a year clean slate.

>> No.77571417

>>77571327
>honestly most consumers don't know what the fuck they actually want in a product, and that's not just magic.
They literally just pick the people they want to market to, only take results from them, and then if anyone complains use 'market research' as an excuse, whether or not it actually really suggested their course of action.
People have some understanding of what they want, but it generally won't come through in a railroaded questionnaire or some similar bullshit.

>> No.77571492

>>77571417
This.
Most company uses twitter or whatever social media as their market research.
They should ask the people who actually buy their products what they want.
Also I have seen many games become greedy and start to add more cosmetic expensive shits like collector boosters and at the end of the day they lose a lot of customers but have an increase in profits thanks to the whales. But even the whales get bored and then you have nothing.

>> No.77571568

>>77571492
They don't care what customers want. Magic players will buy whatever is released, without question

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>first game back since uro ban is vs. jund
>second game is vs. mill
fuck this game

>> No.77571691
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>>77571568
>mfw haven't bought cards in over a year
>been spending all my leftover neetbux on metal
>going to school and comfy stacking while I watch my favorite games melting down and dying slowly, with all the toxic players suffering in a hell of their own design
I love you guys. Never change /mmg/

>> No.77571761

>>77568702
Rakdos shadow
Rakdos shadow
Rakdos shadow
Rakdos shadow
Rakdos shadow
UR prowness
Mono red prowness

>> No.77571795
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>>77571669
Hedron crab and co. will have their day in the sun! Mill has always been semiviable as long as fetches and tutors remain in the game.

>> No.77572200
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I want to play some deck that runs lotus bloom. As foretold decks look cool but they dont really need it I feel? It just seems like a cool gimmick of trying to play vintage power in another format. Trying to make lotus bloom and mox tantalite work. some kind of salvaging station shenanigans?

>> No.77572213

>>77571761

don't say that. kooba will show up to talk up thalia.

>> No.77572230
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>>77572200
eggs

>> No.77572247

Anything new popped out of Modern since the bans? Besides cum tribal of course.

>> No.77572263

>>77570015
>>77570131
Blade is based though

>> No.77572267

>>77572230

eggs is so dead, and every time it comes back they kill it again.

>> No.77572271

>>77572213
dies to lava dart

>> No.77572305

>>77572263
I have nothing against Blade but you know damn well WOTC will use any opportunity to make themselves look progressive.

>> No.77572312

What do we think of remy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQFPev7fab8

>> No.77572327
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GIVE ME MY MONKE BACK

>> No.77572349

>>77572263
Yeah Blade 1 is an amazing movie.

>> No.77572351

>>77572271

more like seal of fire or fatal push

>> No.77572404

>>77572351
Or W&6. Imagine playing X/1s in Modern holy shit lmao.

>> No.77572443

>>77571669
What decks do you want to play against beyond the best matchup for whatever the fuck you play?

>> No.77572703
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>>77572327
>monke posting will never die

>> No.77572757

>>77572327

HE DINDU NUFFIN

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>>77572703
IT'S MISTER LIZARD!
Also, sauce?

>> No.77573045

>>77572404

not in rakdos shadow

>> No.77573073

>>77572929
https://mangadex.org/chapter/700901

>> No.77573077

>>77570234
Those absolute madmen, it looks like they even used a random name generator on this as to save money

Cue Maro telling people the HP analogies are insulting wotcs design teams who worked so very hard. And when called out about the similarities and how he is a lying cunt, he'll pilpul onto 11 with something along the lines of "I didnt say it wouldn't feature many harry potter references, I just said it wouldn't be *exactly* like HP"

This whole spiel is pretty awesome to witness only once you have no stake in it anymore

>> No.77573149

>>77573077

3CMC FOR GRYFFINDOR

>> No.77573166

>>77572404
i have a 2/1 deck that really suffers from getting anywhere even near a W6, it's just utterly backbreaking on the draw

4x force of virtue in the main for it

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>>77572703
IT'S MISTER LIZARD!!
Please bring my monke back mister lizard!

>> No.77573260

>>77571417
>People have some understanding of what they want, but it generally won't come through in a railroaded questionnaire or some similar bullshit.

Very well said. Their fucking questionnaires are an utter waste of time and designed to just reflect what they want to hear. No room for criticism, only "which of these 4 prewritten things about the new set do you like best?". No nuance or context, only "Do you like powerful cards?" to retrospectively justify their greed. No real choices, just "Which format do you like best? EDH, Brawl or getting punched in the nuts?" "Who dpyu think is more important to be represented, Nonbinary or Transgender individuals?"

I always make sure to give them a polite but quick rundown on why they have ruined mtg and fan-made formats are the last hope.

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>>77570234
I'm going to be in House SILVERQUIL because I love the sounds of the word SILVER and the word QUILL and SILVERQUIL reminds of RAVENCLAW from my EPIC FAVORITE Harry Potter books and may I tell you about my HP FANSITE OH MY GAWDDDDDDDD

>> No.77573383
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>>77573149
>>77573077
>>77570234
>>77570257
>>77570776
Not every magic school concept has to be a Harry Potter knockoff. We could have Zero no Tsukaima references!

>> No.77573482

>>77573383
japanese magic schools have writing just as bad as that of harry potter and sometimes worse

>> No.77573486

>>77570234
Sooooo
Silverquill is Ravenclaw
Lorehold is Griffindor
Prismari is a word that is so intrinsically homosexual I am in awe
Witherbloom is something that wants to be some GoT reference but ends up only being seen as inverse slitherin
Quandrix is izzet after Niv-Mizzet ascended to memehood in WAR

>> No.77573526

>>77573482
>and *mostly worse
FTFY

>> No.77573532

WotC are doing another one of their surveys, if you want to let them know how much you loved Kaldheim.

https://survey.marketpointsinc.com/wc0221gb1/WIZARDS

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>>77573383
I mean I too wish we got a nip crossover like Little Witch Academia instead, but you know the cock gobblers at Wizards would never give us the kawaii cunny. We have to be given ugly as fuck designs, we can't have anything looking remotely ok.

>> No.77573553

>>77573260
Taking online feedback seriously is the first red flag that a company is going downhill.

>> No.77573557

>>77573383
Yes, because wotc is known for often shaking it up and bringing niche references into the mix instead of going for the absolutely lowest hanging fruit.

Also, I can only imagine how absolutely terrible most shonen wizard school settings in animes must be.

>> No.77573581

>>77569931
There were defenders of companion here awhile back, so I doubt it.

>> No.77573663

>>77570234
Queerx sounds UB, I'll go with that one

>> No.77573698

>>77573534
>>77573383
"We wanted to include references to a a diverse selection of wizard school settings, but it soon became clear that we had to abandon the idea, considering how anime has become a symbol of white supremacy. Therefore, we had to limit our references to a mere 7 settings, the HP novels 1 to 7, as our market analysis showed that this was what people like to see. Also, here is your secret lair which does deliberately not even feature hot emma watson art"

>> No.77573741

>>77573581
To be fair, that was mostly kooba. Even that Lurrusposter faggot that got himself a lurrus...hoodie? admitted he just wanted to see the world burn and that companions were terrible for the game.

>> No.77573806

>>77573532
Be sure to go to their survey via the official site and not this link. Probably my paranoia, but the last thing that is needed is dismissing all negative feedback because "4chan was raiding us" because some low percentage of surveytakers were linked to it from here.

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>>77573698
>Also, here is your secret lair which does deliberately not even feature hot emma watson art
YOU VILE SACKS OF VENOMOUS SULFITE SHIT YOU BETTER FUCKING NOT REEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.77573876

Exile mana monke
Exile my heart

>> No.77573921

>>77573876
>exile looting
>exile mana monke
wotc doesn't want red to play anything but bolts...

>> No.77573974

>>77573829
Hermione is black now. Haven't you seen the Cursed Child? That is the definitive Hermione.

>> No.77573984

>>77573532
Do you think they'll throw mine out if I write in that I came from this place?

>> No.77573992

>>77573984
Tell them you're a mod on r/magictcg

>> No.77574004
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77574004

aether vial, thalia, leonin arbiter, spell queller, meddling mage, flickerwisp. These are my tools of the trade. I will play these cards no matter what, until the day wotc bans them. I strongly believe in these card's ability to succeed, but more importantly, I strongly believe in these card's ability to be fun. You have to play a deck you enjoy if you ever expect to fully enjoy this hobby. Play the cards that stand out to you. Believe in the heart of the cards

>> No.77574006

>>77574004
>t. kooba

>> No.77574039

>>77570234
So can we actually get rowling to sue for copyright infrigment?

>> No.77574050

>>77574039
Considering how hard she was burned by the woke left, I wouldn't even be surprised if she acted on that.

>> No.77574074

>>77574050
Someone should bring it to her attention, I don't have any social media.

>> No.77574084

>>77574074
I abandon Twitter accounts the moment they ask for mobile phone verification so fuck that.

>> No.77574104

>>77573974
I don't fucking care if she's grey, I just want her to be fucking sexy
But corporate noses are big on sjw uglyfags now so there's no fucking chance

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>>77573532
Kaldheim had some really cool art and I liked the alternate frames.
Shame they had to break Modern again with it.

>> No.77574193

I just finished Dark Souls! Maybe I'll work on an actual cum tribal list now. Or maybe not...

>> No.77574450

>>77574193
Very nice, what build?

>> No.77574480

>>77574450
Fuck knows, it just involved the zweihander and Havel's ring letting me wear HEAVY SHIT.

>> No.77574578

>>77574480
you were on the right track
did you equip favour and protection?

>> No.77574604

>>77574578
I trashed it because I'd rather have Havel's ring while wearing the Artorias/Lava rings. It gave more equip load, meaning I can wear heavier armour. My only regret is getting the wrong mask from Pinwheel so I couldn't live out my Giantdad dream. I got the child mask ;~;

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>>77574105
I'm just going to post some more Kaldheim art I liked.

>> No.77574635

>>77568526
not genuinely until we get that edit

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>>77574613

>> No.77574652

>>77574613
never would i have thought i would see an angel that looks like marilyn manson. what a time we live in

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>>77574644
>>77574652
yeah, maybe I just like the emo shit

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>>77574673

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>>77574689

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>>77574714

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>>77574728

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>>77574742

>> No.77574785

STOP SPAMMING CARDS >:(

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>>77574756
>>77574785
You can continue your Harry Potter discussion if you want, just ignore me

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>>77574797

>> No.77574854

>>77574742
This one is actually pretty good. At the very least, these are way better than the Ikoria-style rubber CGI look. Not that that's a high bar.

>> No.77574881
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>>77574839
>>77574854
I like some of these a lot, it's a shame that the set also has retarded things in it like that one planeswalker...

>> No.77574926

So what do we do about prownessniggers that are going to infest the format again?

>> No.77574945

>>77574926
Runed halo, duh

>> No.77574953
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>>77574881
and that wraps it up

>>77574926
prowess is cool though

>> No.77575008

>>77572703
IT'S MISTER LIZARD!!

>> No.77575014

>>77574945
You may as well run Pacifism for all the good it's worth.

>> No.77575018

>>77574945
You can't play 16 runed halos anon

>>77574953
prowness was cool when it was a 100$ t1 deck, now it's a shitpile of things that draws 30 cards and attacks for 60 on t3.

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>>77570234
>school of mages
>not school of witches

>> No.77575107

>>77575018
Isn't it still like $100? Just use a cheaper manabase.

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>>77567789
That irencrag pyromancer note gave me cancer. I must post this genesis image to cleanse my body and mind.

>> No.77575130

>>77574797
Remember when people were speculating on this being the card to save Jund in modern?
hahah what a joke

>> No.77575143

Prowess 100% needs a ban too. It's gotten too powerful and people only forgot about it because of Uro. They should probably ban Mishra's Bauble. Fast mana is somehow intolerable but a free cantrip isn't.

>> No.77575178

>>77575130
Remember when people thought JTMS +0 into BBE Cascading past the 2 lands you put on top would be format breaking? LOL

>>77575143
Prowess only seems powerful because 1-for-1 removal hasn't been worth playing since Uro was printed. Your T1 Swiftspear eating shit to a Fatal Push is probably gonna lose you the game.

>> No.77575264

>>77575143
Reminder that lurrus died because of bauble (and other things but mostly bauble)

>> No.77575295

They banned 15 cards across 3 formats.
Does it mean they finally feel some shame or did they get some data and the game is fucking dying so they had to go nuclear?

>> No.77575296

>>77575107
shadow/rakdos prowness is the current best iteration of the deck and it's like 800$ iirc.

>> No.77575310

>>77575178
>Your T1 Swiftspear eating shit to a Fatal Push is probably gonna lose you the game

bru, prowness is both super fast, can win by beatdown, can win by burn and has a fuckton of long term resilience and grind capabilities, the deck is utterly retarded, even more so with lurrus.

>> No.77575367

>>77575310
Yeah okay, like, whatever, but the T1 Swiftspear you expected to deal 6-7 points of damage just ate shit without dealing a single point.

>> No.77575402

>>77575178
>Prowess only seems powerful because 1-for-1 removal hasn't been worth playing since Uro was printed.
It's too fast and consistent with more threats than you have removal. Take off the fucking Uro goggles and realize that without Uro oppressing it, Prowess in its current forms dunks on every other deck in the game. "You either have removal up or you just die" isn't something you should be defending.

>> No.77575405

>>77575295
Digital demands faster bans and they wanna revive paper now that chinkflu is "solved".

>> No.77575438

>>77572327
Use rite of flame

>> No.77575489

>>77570890
If I had friends Id play cube and pauper exclusively. Unfortunately Ive lost them all and game stores are closed in my area so now I just shitpost on 4chan.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.77575506

>>77573698
I guess no one gave WOTC the memo that HP is trans exclusionary :^)

>> No.77575541

>>77574673
I love everything about this card. The art is great, it's costed well, it's a cool usage for foretell, and it gives discard decks a card that is never dead.

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>>77569606
I will pay any amount of money for them to get Tsutomu Nihei to draw anything Phyrexian whenever we go back to post-Mirrodin

>> No.77575793

>>77575506
I'm unfamiliar with this meme

>> No.77575916

>>77575793
JK Rowling, the writer of Harry Potter, doesn't like trans people.

>> No.77575942

>>77575916
wtf I love JK Rowling now

>> No.77576026

>>77572703
IT'S MISTER LIZARD!!

>> No.77576061

>>77575916
So WotC will just get a shit load of easy pandering by making their wizard school trans safe and make the set even worse. I can't wait.

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77576066

I really enjoy playing U-tron, is there any other deck with a similar level of depth that's currently good?

>> No.77576152

>>77575296
that's a more midrangey build isn't it? prowess right now is ur

>> No.77576215

Since we are Harry Potter now, ehat would be the "mudblood" slur equivalent for trannies?

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>>Please rate this image overall.

>> No.77576313

>>77576229
Cultural appropriation/10

>> No.77576381

>>77576215
"Mog/Moggie" as in transmogrified.

>> No.77576459

>>77570234
>BBBBBBBBUT ITS NOT HARRY POTTER GUYS!
>literally has Not-Hogwarts and Houses
Its tiring to keep up with Maro's lies

>> No.77576510

How much would you bet that the antagonist in Strixhaven will be Voldemort but with Donald Trump's appearance?

>> No.77576540

>>77575916
>Twitter hates JK Rowling
>But they cant stop sucking Harry Potters dick after 20 years.
Why cant Twitter separate the art from the artist? Samurai X's mangaka is a pedophile and you dont see me throwing a fit.

>> No.77576601

>>77576510
What if this happens but they accidentally make him the most sympathetic character like they did with Kudro and Avacyn?

>> No.77576607 [DELETED] 

>>77576229
Terrible.
>bright pink axes draw eyes directly to them
>kaya's pose is awkward and unrealistic in combat, namely her left arm is going hit her axe immediately
>the speed lines make zero sense, which makes visualizing the motion impossible, distracting the viewers
>the bright pink clashes with the blue everything else
>kaya looks like she was photoshopped in, no relation to the background whatsoever
>her right arm is just completely detached from her shoulder
>bare hands in a snowy climate is something you simply don't do
>afro/long hair in combat
>modern hair style at all
>kaya looks more like some SEA monkey than black
>nigger
0/10

>> No.77576696

>>77574104
My point was she's not going to look like Emma Watson.

>> No.77576707

>>77576607
>>kaya's pose is awkward and unrealistic in combat, namely her left arm is going hit her axe immediately

I don't entirely agree. I have a couple years of training with deerhorn knives and the pose looks okay-ish to me. Mind you, it looks stupid from the point-of-view depicted in the image but I think the artist at least copied a stance from a 2nd or 3rd hand source. There are a couple of """realistic" followup motions depending on footwork.

>> No.77576723

>>77576601
It's 100% going to happen

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>>77576540
Most mangaka are pedos desu desu
>>77576601
Dunno. I'm looking forward to it either way. This is literally going to be the worst set ever made and I cannot wait to see it.

>> No.77576969
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77576969

Legacychads, are we back? I've been playing this new meta a decent amount since the ban announcement and it's been fun!

>> No.77577003

>>77576969
yep, legacy is in a really good spot now until Strixhaven inevitably ruins it

>> No.77577063

>>77577003
Yeah, I'm not counting on this lasting more than a month or two. At the very least, Modern Horizons 2 should fuck things up. But it's nice to have genuine battles of resources again, where card advantage matters to some degree.

>> No.77577177

>>77576969
Is UB shadow viable again?

>> No.77577225

>>77574953
The fact that they couldn't get RKF to do any of the 'metal' cards is proof that WotC doesn't actually give a shit about producing quality artwork and instead outsources to the lowest bidder.

>> No.77577392

>>77569163
Yeah 5 mana is a lot when people are already casting Timetwister in Legacy with little work.

>> No.77577430

>>77577177
Probably. No way to tell for sure until things settle down, since right now everyone's just jamming their favorite decks that Oko killed off. But Shadow was a solid deck when its shadows weren't being foreverially delitized into elks, so I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least a tier 2 strategy now.

>> No.77577549

>>77577225
I've never seen a less "metal" set of artworks than this kaldheim garbage

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>>77577549
I can find random commons from Invasion that are more metal than every card in Kaldheim combined.
And I don't even like metal.

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>>77577820
Comparing Ice Age to Kaldheim is like night and day, and they weren't even trying for "metal" there.

>> No.77577915

>>77577549
the only piece of artwork in the entire set I'd even consider "Metal" is Varragoth since he has a human skin cloak

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>>77569735
>Recruiter
Unsafe, because lol muxus lol.
>yawgmoth's bargain
Prolly safe, mostly because 6 mana & might open up nic fit decks and rector decks again.
>Negropotence
negropotence gives you more cards, cards now are too broken.
>Survival
Se negropotence
>memory jar
2 pricy lmao, just resolve ad nauseam and instawin with combo, powers up mud decks.
>Mind twister, mind's desire, earthcraft
Very kek/10 cards, mind's desire is pretty trash as it is easier to get storm 9 and kill someone with ant or resolve an emrakulio via show and tell.
>Alexandria
Uro keeps this down, paradoxically enough.

>>77570994
>>77570246
Thinking survival decks would be vengecringe decks and not something more unholy, Urovaluezenithvival is insane.
Imagine a deck that can turbo out a bunch of vines OR ram uros down your gullet and also search for 60 different answer cards via zenith AND survival.

>> No.77577975

>>77577941
The problem is that survival isn't free. Doing something combo related on turn 3 that can be disrupted doesn't seem that broken considering we have ANT, Doomsday, and TES all doing that sometimes even on turn one.

>> No.77578022

>>77577975
That is the thing anon, it wouldn't be combo, it wasn't either back way when mind you.
It will be a value pile that can also retard roll you into shitting out 8/6 worth of stats with haste on turn 2-3 because fuck you.
I doubt survi would be a 4 of, but it would only open up gigass decks as a branch of the current ones.

>> No.77578067

>>77572703
IT'S MISTER LIZARD!!

>> No.77578070

>>77572703
IT'S MISTER LIZARD!

>> No.77578199

why do gay people call burn "prowess"
knock it off you queers

>> No.77578203

>>77574004
I feel that anon, I will play Kird Ape, Nacatl, and Ghor-Clan Rampager until the day I die. It's clearly not the best, but I love it.

>> No.77578226
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>>77574604
Gotta farm the clones in Tomb of the Giants then. Don't let your dreams be memes, anon. Be the chad dad you were meant to be.

>> No.77578228

>>77578199
Prowess is the blitz deck you dipshit

>> No.77578234

did realmwalker actually help elves or is it still a dead t3 deck because of plague engineer and spot removal?

>> No.77578273

>>77578234
>Elves is a tier z deck because of plague engineer
Delusion, elves is a tier z deck because outside of legacy and pauper it is a bad aggro deck.

>> No.77578287

>>77568702
Ponzalukka will dab on the meta like crazy.

>>77571691
Based, with all the craze around RL cards i managed to sell all of them this month and use the cash to buy 280oz of shinies + a shitload of comfy old foils for my collection. I'm now a proud Coinvivor.

>> No.77578316

>>77578287
Given a few more months I might have been able to crack 2k, but it looks like things are heating up over in the metals markets.

>> No.77578375

>2/3rd of all combo decks in modern got destroyed by bans since a year
>twiddle is left completely untouched
I think this may be the time.
Sad they did acknowledge tefenigger was cancer in pionner but didn't ban him in modern while jotc knows it's even more bullshit there.

>>77578316
Very nice fren, looks like i wont be able to catch up, sitting at 1.1K rn. I got some crazy good deals on ebay back in january but it's all gone now.. And yeah, i don't expect things to be better now the coomex changed their prospectus to warn deliveries 'could potentially' be a no-no from now on due to high demand.
No matter how much they continue to cheat with the spot price, you can't find anything below $31/32 now. The emperor is totally naked with a dildo in the pooper.

>> No.77578480

>>77574193
>Maybe I'll work on an actual cum tribal list now
Don't waste your time bud, i've tried it all and we are not there yet. Not even close. It would ask some pretty heavy duty stuff to make it a decent tier2.

>> No.77578486

>>77578375
How expensive is twiddle on >mtgo?
I might try it there if it is under 30 bucks.

>> No.77578526

>>77578486
No idea, but IRL it was already in the $50 range back when modern cards were still worth something, so now $35 for a paper version seems realistic. For this fact alone the deck is beyond based.

>> No.77578567

>>77578273
But you barely attack them for the win with Modern Elves. Either you combo them with the GW version or cheese them with simultaneous Shaman of the Pack triggers

>> No.77578592

>>77578567
So it isn't only a bad aggro deck, it is also a bad combo deck, got it king.
You need gsz, natty order, gaea's abuse, glimpse, etc... for a good elves deck.

>> No.77578602

>>77578526
Sure, drop a list and I'll buy into (((mtgo))) and get twiddlestorm.

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>>77578486
For reference, my list i tuned a lot back in the days. Simply replace the fiery islet with basic islands and the deck is dirt cheap. I'd have to take a look if any recent stuff could improve the sideboard.
If the only combos left are dredge, balustrade, infect, heliod and amulet/scapeshift, chances are most people don't bother with any storm hate in their SB. Could be the perfect storm :3 for twiddle to shine.

>> No.77578704

>>77578682
As said, drop me a proper list and a place to buy it and I'll do it.
I'll even post here.
even if I don't wanna give money to (((them))). I also own like 90% of the deck irl, except pif and masterful.

>> No.77578711

>>77578199
Because Blitz (sometimes called Prowess) and Burn are distinct archetypes.

>> No.77578719

>mill
bro please dont

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>>77578704
Fuck off nigger, i'm not your mom. DIY.

>> No.77578753

>>77578746
Okay Biden, but I just don't know how mtgo and buying stuff off mtgo works.

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>>77578682
Btw now i think about it, picrel should probably replace shimmer, which was truly an useless trash filler. It combo nicely with PIF.

>> No.77578771

>>77578753
>implying i'm cucked enough to have mtjo
wtf, just play it on cocka for free like any sane person

>> No.77578777

>>77570234
Holy lel
Might as well have just named the set Barry Botter if they weren't gonna be subtle at all. Shit looks like a fan edit of literal Hogwarts art

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>>77578777
>Barry Botter
Most likely Naggy Nogger knowing jotc.

>> No.77578815

>>77570234
>Quandrix
yo that's the name of the nigga that bagged my groceries today

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77578826

It's been a while, gentlemen. I see I've been unbanned from Vintage.
This game is still a mess, isn't it? I mean damn, a card is banned in Modern I didn't even know about (Tibalt's Trickery). Good lord.

I hope you've all been well. And I hope you'll find the strength to break out of this abusive relationship one day.

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>>77578771
I'd only buy into mtgo to clown some leagues for muh competitive points.
I fucking hate my local game stores with a burning pasion, they're cheaters and scammers and worse, they have pic related as chairs, which makes my ass hurt and most of the time I just end up air squatting or standing up.

>> No.77578845

>>77578834
What the fuck sort of hipster bullshit LGS you have where those are the chairs?
Also I can relate, for whatever reason my LGS is filled with the most unfun, angry faggots that are somehow terrible at the game. It was never an FNM without the judge being called on me every round (and me being in the right every single time)

>> No.77578853

>>77578834
grug lgs make grug sit on rock
grug like
rock is good for sit

>> No.77578870

>>77578845
I live in barcelona, so the lgs isn't even using those out of hipsterim but because they got them for super cheap at Ikea, the ones they have are even worse than the one I posted, absolute shit stools that leave your ass raw.
The players are okay, the owner is a massive nigger.
The other LGS is in fucking timbuktu and the last LGS doesn't run magic.

>>77578853
rock based.

>> No.77579089

>>77573532
>>77573984
I told them I came from Faceberg.
But I also told them I hate trannies and that their inclusive writing is disgusting in French and that identify as an Attack Helicopter for my gender.

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>>77578826
I've broken out, I just want to ride this ship all the way down. I'm getting my money's worth of entertainment out of these creatively bankrupt corporate noses, dammit!

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>>77578777
>Shit looks like a fan edit of literal Hogwarts art
Checked and truthpilled

>> No.77579177

>>77579108
I'm just absolutely floored by these bans, honestly. Just happened to pop in here out of complete boredom and am like wow. Still processing it all. On one hand this feels like quite a change, but on the other hand I got so sick of this game I even quit coming to these threads. Which I never expected would actually happen, honestly. Figured I'd sit and watch it all burn for ages, but it just got so boring.

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>>77579177
Lmao did you catch the cascade ruling to prevent valki/tibalt from clowning on legacy?

>> No.77579205

>>77578682
Not true, people will put damping sphere in the sideboard as it hurts both tron and storm.

>> No.77579224

>>77579194
I've been gone since around when they announced a literal trannywalker, I think. I had finally had enough. Which is crazy because I fucking LIVED in this general.

What happened? Bring me up to speed.

>> No.77579251

>>77579224
They finally added a check for cascade that the spell being cascaded into actually costs less than the spell cascaded from, which was relevant because of the double faced card Valki/Tibalt.
Valki costs 2 mana, so would be the only 2 or less mana card in the cascade deck... but if you cascaded into it you could just cast Tibalt, who costs 7.

>> No.77579289

>>77579224
Oh lord. I didn't save any of the decklists, but they were something like

4x oko
3x valki/tibalt

4x violent outburst
4x ardent plea
4x other 3cmc cascade spell

4x mana monke (RIP LOL)
4x mana elf

4x force of will
4x force of neg
2-4x misdirection

[Manabase]

'Cuz according to cascade rules with MDFCs, cascade procced on Valki but would RESOLVE as Tibalt. It was pure Yu-Gi-Oh.

>> No.77579300

>>77578273
>>77578567
>>77578592

modern elves needs a good tutor and wirewood symbiote

>> No.77579302

>>77579251
Lol waitwaitwait, you could run 3 cmc cascade cards to cast this new Tibalt card? Hahaha. Also this Tibalt's Trickery card is hilarious.
I swear I wasn't gone that long but it feels like I missed an entire era of mtg. Which speaks volumes to how problematic every goddamned set of mtg is.

>> No.77579311

>>77579300
I had been begging for Wirewood since before MH1. I even bought a playset because I was really thinking it might show up in MH1 and make Elves playable.

>> No.77579312

>>77579302
It was 10 days of the best deck in Modern and Legacy being Valki Cascade, with Trickery creating T1 coinflips at a much higher rate than Neoform could ever hope to accomplish.

>> No.77579342

>>77579312
I don't even have enough palms to put on my face. I... I don't even have a Lurrus that fits this situation.

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>>77579302
Yeah, Violent Outburst into a 7 mana planeswalker with an ETB. Shit was wild.

>> No.77579377

STOP IT. STOP TALKING ABOUT TIBALT.
LOOK AT EVERYTHING ELSE WE GAVE YOU IN KALDHEIM: GODS, METAL, DWARVES, DIVERSITY!
THIS IS EVERYTHING YOU EVER ASKED US FOR! SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR STUPID FORMATS SHUT UP FUCK YOU FUCK OFF FUCK FUCK FUCK

>> No.77579381

>>77579342
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=29127&f=LE
A Legacy list

https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=29239&f=MO
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=29187&f=MO
Note the Omnaths in the Modern version.

>> No.77579425

>>77576707
From how the axe is being held to the concept of dual wielding. It's all stupid.

>> No.77579447

>>77579381
Fucks sake.
Words fail me.

>> No.77579450

>>77579177
Absolutely the same here, except i quit a tad later and am not even considering coming back

/mmg/ are still bros though, and I do like to pop in every now and then and watch.

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>>77579377
Your suffering fuels me
Taste ANGUISH

>> No.77579474

>>77579450
>/mmg/ are still bros though
That's the only reason I even poked my head back in. Well, that and I kinda missed when anon would reeee at my Lurrus.

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>>77579474

>> No.77579634

i hope mh2 has a 2 cmc soldier lord worth something

the fact that i still want things from wizards probably indicates that i'm a hopeless faggot

>> No.77579642

>>77579634
The only thing I want out of MH2 is another Hogaak-tier abomination.

>> No.77579657

>>77579642
I want to see tcgplayer shit on WotC again.

>> No.77579673

>>77579657
Hook me up. I don't remember that.

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>>77579634
>the fact that i still want things from wizards probably indicates that i'm a hopeless faggot
Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to recovery anon

>> No.77579690

>>77579673
I don't have it saved anymore, but just before Hogaak was banned, they had a Hogaak banner on their site that said, "Have you been enjoying Modern? Neither have we."

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>>77579482

>> No.77579715

>>77579690
When was it banned? I may have saved it and can check my files around that time.

>> No.77579721

>>77579705
>>77579482
>Fren
Ah yes
Facist
Racist
Ethno
Nationalist

>> No.77579727

>>77579715
August of 2019

>> No.77579733

>>77579721
Go away, /pol/

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>>77579727
Bingo. Good teamwork.

>> No.77579767

>>77579755
I spent $1000 that day they did the 8% for the ban just out of spite for WOTC

>> No.77579772

>>77579755
That's the stuff.

>> No.77579777

>>77579755
Wow, TCGPlayer is extremely based

>> No.77579790

>boggles is now 4% of the meta
Did people just realized the deck was good or what?
The deck was raping uropiles, just saying.

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>>77579721
based fren

>> No.77580109

>>77568432
They add several hwyte cishet characters each expansion you big baby. Just counting walkers, there's Tyrvar in Kaldheim.

>> No.77580134

>>77568549
Why is there no dog planeswalker then?

>> No.77580157

>>77579790
Boogle is always good-ish.
The issue with boogles is that boogles is fucking boring.
Not even in a burn is boring way, but in a "Ah yes, I can play 3-4 matches at the same time"-boring.

>> No.77580218

>>77580134
Idk maybe Wizards thinks lions are canines or something

>> No.77580244

>>77580157
Agreed. But it's still funny that's this simple strategy will rape ultra efficient goodstuff piles.

>> No.77580251

>>77568526
holy shit what a fucking ugly face

>> No.77580262

>>77580251
>>77568526
She answered the call.

>> No.77580319

>>77580244
Taking the other player's life from anything to 0 tends to kill them, yes.
Durdle and other value piles (such as the stupid meme control decks mongoloids here and on reddit play & shit like jund) are the ones that got castrated by uro & co.

>> No.77580518

>>77580516
>>77580516
>>77580516

>> No.77581149

>>77576229
It looks like a dumb instagram bitch doing a photo set while the actual barbarians are fighting behind her. Kinda like that shitty journalist that went to the riot areas, took a picture with a drill to say she is helped and right after it jumped into her BMW and fucked off

>> No.77581712

>>77579425

The entire concept of combat with edged weapons is completely retarded, so we haven't really moved the conversation forward much

>> No.77581740

>>77579721
b&rp
>>77579733
>>>/red-dit/

>> No.77581812

>>77581712
Not really no. Since even with magic spells they need people to get close orherwise they get steamrolled by waves.

>> No.77581928

>>77581812

>hurr grug shove metal wedge into other grug

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