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>>76797603

>TQ
Would you give Vintage a chance if it was affordable?

>> No.76813476

>>76813444
Not just no but
FUCK no
Being unaffordable merely one of legacy's long list of sins. I would never associate myself with that particular playerbase.

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>>76813476
>question's about vintage
>immediately whine about legacy

>> No.76813691

>>76813444
>TQ
yes, I've always been a fan of artifact mana (rip Opal) I'd love to play Vintage if it was cheap, specially Shops decks

>> No.76813698

>>76813444
>TQ
Maybe if we cut out the last 5 years worth of cards
Ever since PO it's been flooded with standard-esque cards that uproot the established meta and end up being bland winconditions that you don't even have to work hard to win with
You know, just like every other eternal format turning into standard++.
I think like most formats, khans is about where I'd pull the trigger on legality. Monastery Mentor was a unique wincon that appealed to vintage's playstyles without completely breaking the format. Dig and Cruise are probably too powerful but honestly I'm okay with them, especially relative to everything since.

>> No.76813766

W6 t2 on the play is such a ludicrously ballbusting play

>> No.76813800

>>76813766
wow, this just in, playing any viable planewalker on the play t2 has always been a ticket to success
w6, lotv, oko, garruk, doesn't matter

>> No.76813814

>>76813800
for the 3 mana walkers you have to pay the dork tax in the sense that dorks are actually terrible draws lategame

for w6 all you have to do is play fetchlands

>> No.76813843

>>76813814
Not when drs was pumping out lilianas turn 2 for years before the banstick hit
and if you're using shit like arbor elf+any mana growth effect, t2 is practically your endgame because that's when you'll be dropping your 4 mana planeswalkers and possibly chaining into 8-10 mana worth of plays on the next turn
either your opponent kills your dorks and you lose, or they don't and you win

>> No.76813887

>>76813843
shut up, he's right.

>> No.76813910

>>76813843
>either your opponent kills your dorks and you lose, or they don't and you win
okay but w6 doesn't have the "opponent kills your dorks and you lose problem" which is why it's better??

drs was also just the best dork ever printed anywhere ever

>> No.76814058

>>76813843
Do you not understand the difference between needing three cards to do something and needing two cards to do something?
Arbor Elf with Utopia Sprawl is ridiculous, agreed, but that doesn't mean being able to just play W6 for zero effort turn 2 on the play isn't ALSO ridiculous.

>> No.76814311

>>76813444
I'd try vintage, but I probably wouldn't play anything good. Blue belcher tickles my cock a lot more than PO.

>> No.76814338

>>76813444
vintage stompy

ready to lose 100% of games in the process

>> No.76814382

>>76813444
I think a legacy without Okoshit would be more fun to me than vintage, the power 9 seems pretty appealing but I get the sense that games would either end quickly or become inevitable within a few turns, moreso than other formats, so I don't think I'd enjoy playing it for more than an evening here or there.

>> No.76814776

>>76813444
>TQ
I've only played a little bit of vintage but it was fun. The idea of a restricted list means that there's a lot of variance in the games, even with all the tutors. It also seems like the least fucked competitive format right now, although Underworld Beach and Force of Vigor seem annoying

>> No.76814823

>>76813476
Take the chinaman pill

>> No.76814840

First for fuck trannies
Fuck arena
fuck Mark Rosewater
and fuck the reserved list

>> No.76815182

>>76813444
TQ: I prefer old-school. I really like the gameplay and you get to play with power.

>> No.76815212
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76815212

Joy evaporates
Hope is lost
More product to sell
No matter the cost
Schadenfreude, gone
Anger fades away
Apathy, our tomb
And here we shall stay
Memories of old times
Tainted with age
One final defiance-
In options, type "sage"

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White aggro is just bad red aggro. White midrange is just bad green midrange. White Lifegain is just bad Black Lifegain. White Control is just bad Blue Control.

>> No.76815583

>>76815446
More like:
White aggro is just bad green aggro.
White midrange is just bad green midrange.
White ligegain is just bad green ligegain.
White control is just bad.

>> No.76815630

>>76815583
White has a few potent control spells (Armageddon, Wraths etc.)

>> No.76815731

>>76815630
Symmetric effects lose to do something draw a card, you have to let things stand to "fill your net" and the replacement effect nullifies the wipe.
White being the least color for card drawing is not the problem, the problem is FIRE.

>> No.76815743

>>76815630
>armageddon
I legitimately can't remember the last time an armageddon deck did well over even a moderate period of time and wasn't just some stupid meme deck that SaffronOlive ran.

>> No.76815761

>>76815743

I ran 2-3 cataclysms in my legacy DnT sideboard
c-close enough

>> No.76815768

>>76815761
I mean I guess but it's sideboard and not really dedicated land hate in specific so much as "opponent is playing something I can't get under as D&T so I have to use cataclysm as a catchall"
typically nowadays that means uro

>> No.76815774

>>76815768
meant to say oko, not uro. I guess it's also kinda necessary to deal with uro but let's be honest if you don't win the game as D&T before the first real uro hits you're fucking boned anyways

>> No.76816361

https://infinite.tcgplayer.com/article/Introducing-the-Planeswalker-Deck-Project/ea509c68-300d-4c0c-b7f5-700e89fcaecd/
>Although FOMO has kept us from cashing out, I often wondered what to do with our large stash. The vast majority of cards aren't playable in the big formats, and even EDH seems to grow more homogenous the more WotC subsidizes it with Commander-specific entries.
Even the soigois are rebelling. This shit is just fucking weird though. People like planeswalkers enough for this?

>> No.76816487

>>76815583
This, the "white is bad" meme comes from EDH. Fair aggressive effects are a lot worse when your opponents have a combined starting life total of 120 rather than 20. Mono-white is by far the best monocolor in Legacy and even Vintage. It's just that green does everything now and cantrips, so there's not a lot of reason to play decks other than UGx.

>> No.76816525

>>76816487
Mono-colorless is better than mono-white though. Eldrazi variants are just miles ahead of monowhite at this point, and the only reason to even go monowhite is for D&T/white weenie beatdown, or some really cheeky infinite combo like heliod ballista. And if you're going combo, white is probably the worst color because it has zero useful interaction.
>b-but mana tithe

>> No.76816537

>>76816487
>the "white is bad" meme comes from EDH
I'm glad someone here isn't a retard. White has been a fine color in most formats for a long time. The only reason "people" (see: basedboys on reddit that only play EDH) complain is because it lacks le big battlecruiser cards that cantrip that make up the entirety of EDH faggotry. The problem is green is being very fucking pushed and eating into other colors roles

>> No.76816572

>>76813444
>TQ

Vintage players at least will tell you "Yeah fuck it, we know nobody can afford to play this fucking format, proxy up and let's go bois" unlike Legacy players.

Plus the restricted list adds a somewhat interesting dynamic to the game.

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>>76816572

>adds a somewhat interesting dynamic to the game.

bullshit.
it turns the format into glorified 60 card singleton
anyone who has any doubts about vintage: just play it. you can rent any vintage deck for the lowest manatrader subscription amount. anyone with a brain who's not just mindlessly blathering for e-cred will be forced to admit how fucking terrible vintage is as a format after a handful of matches.
i'm 100% convinced that the only fanboys it has are people who can't admit how bad it is for social reasons (like people that pretend beer or wine tastes good), OR people who have never played it and want to engage in e-cred wankery

>> No.76816623

>>76816611
>like people that pretend beer or wine tastes good
Oh, you're literally autistic. "I don't like something so you can't like that thing."

>> No.76816624

>>76816611
There's a lot going on here. It's a rather complex piece of bait, I like it. Shitposting really is a art.

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76816632

>friendly, daily and threadly reminder that wotc is de facto printing an illegal cryptocurrency where prices are kept artificially inflated due to artificial scarcity and insider trading that gets distributed through lottery tickets and lootboxes and that they spend, all costs included, 2 cents per card to print them

>> No.76816669

>>76816611
Vintage was good up until recently though
Now it's singleton bullshit cards like Karn, Narset, or everything Shops runs

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76817048

I want to try Vintage and Legacy for shit and giggles on Cockatrice with a friend. What are some enjoyable and fun decks in both formats? Please no Uro, Oko and braindead Control with no win condition.

>> No.76817090

>magic aids made a video
>one of his opponents is temur storm splashing green just for uro
what in the fuck is happening to this game

>> No.76817092

>>76816487
White is bad in edh because edh is limited to one color and white is primarily a support color.
It is absolutely fine along other colors.

>> No.76817103

>>76817090
Didn't see it, did he play the ligegain storm card too?

>> No.76817109

>>76817103
Didn't see it but he probably had it because why not

>> No.76817143

>>76817109
I think it could be fun to play it along vito for an extra challenge, but it probably won't make storm good anyway.

>> No.76817157

>>76817143
I would think it would just be SB tech against Burn/Prowess in case Uro isn't enough. Hilarious how you can play Uro in every single deck though.

>> No.76817158

>>76816632
they really chose the worst colors for this
reminds me of double masters' karn+urza land color fuckery

>> No.76817187

>>76816611
7.5/10 got me to respond

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>>76816611
this here son, is bait

>> No.76817279

>>76816611
>renting a deck

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>>76801962
What's the decktech for this pile Anon? Any tips?
Does it really need so many Creatures?
Also you still have 3tix left to use - don't you feel like there are any upgrades you can make for 3 tix?

>> No.76817541

Does anyone else have the feeling that modern horizons 2 is going to change everything?

>> No.76817552
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>>76817541
He hasn't made a tweet like this for 2021. Is that good, is it bad? I must consult the I Ching.

>> No.76817553

>>76817541
Every Standard set changes everything. Who even cares anymore?

>> No.76817598

>>76817541
Has MH1 not changed everything? Has the past two years not changed everything? NIGGER!

>> No.76817738

>>76817325
I'm not that anon but I don't think there's much to read into his list, he plays aggressively stated creatures on 1, unblockable/efficient creatures on 2 and black's best cheap removal/discard effects to keep your opponent from ignoring your dudes.
He must have a good matchup against FoW decks with all those cheap threats + Duress/Hymn but it's the type of strategy that can't do much against uncoventional decks like Lands/Cloudpost/Depths who can ignore what you're doing even through removal/discard.

>> No.76817847

>>76817738
if he replaced undying evil with damping sphere sb the combo mu would also go way up
in general only a few more discard spells would make the deck better, but also more expensive.

>> No.76817906

>>76817552
Sounds like we're in for a better year, everything maro is excited about is unrepentant shit.

>> No.76818075

I gave it Doomsday a try a few years ago (this was pre-Paradoxical Outcome and just after Lodestone Golem was restricted). It was okay but games ended too fast too often for my liking. Even when my opponent had something to answer my turn 1 two turns later it would go "Brainstorm > you're dead." That or they jammed Lockpiece > lockpiece and I just lost.

>> No.76818420

>>76818075
What was the wincon then? Wasn't it Mind's Desire and Beacon of Destruction?

>> No.76818981

I don't mind vintage and my first choice would be paradoxical because it's the only eggs deck that's actually reasonably positioned in its meta. I really wish they would have given opal room to breath in modern instead of lump banning it with Oko and Lattice. Oko bumped the MH1 paradoxical deck out real quick because it was just that broken, but I'm not sure if paradoxical urza would have been broken and I wish we could have found out.

>> No.76819485
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>1 mana refill the board after a wipe at instant speed
zombie bros... our time has come

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Hey Anon-kun, I fixed my super kawaii custom Golgari mechanic. Now it works just like like Miracle so you can't be an autistic pedant about it :3c

>> No.76819509

>>76819485
this is 100% going into my orzhov rally deck in pioneer

>> No.76819527

>>76819507
Great, now how often are you going to be regrowthing cards to warrant a whole keyword that cares about it?

>>76819509
That sounds nasty.

>> No.76819557

>>76819509
Post list.

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>>76817090
BURN BABY BURN DISCO INFERNOOO BURN BABY BURN

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>>76819509
Probably the best application for it.

>>76819527
Anon-kun, your entire deck doesn't have to be centred around a guild mechanic, it's just something that's there and nice when it does something. Do you think City of Guilds prereleases were full of people winning on T1 with their sick Dredge decks? Even then, it's okay if a guild mechanic sucks dick in limited. Remember Cipher? I'm not trying to set the world on FIRE here, I just wanted to see how easy Wizards job is. Turns out it's pretty easy.

These cards could be nice in Constructed. Returning them to your hand at instant speed lets you cast them right there and then, so you can pull blockers out of your ass or flash in creatures in your opponent's end step.

And there are Regrowth effects in the stuff I made. 2GB mill two return two to hand at common, the Guildmage returns something on ETB and has pay 4 return something. A 5 mana rare enchantment that upkeep gives something Composted until EOT then returns it to hand.

It's okay to try and have fun, Anon. Not everything in this world has to be power creep.

>> No.76819629

>>76819485
What the fuck
The foretell cost it's to cheap
May see play in zombos decks

>> No.76819649

>>76819629
Sure the Foretell is only B, but you still have to pay 2B total for it. The turn you spend 2 mana to exile this is the turn you're casting less zombies.

>> No.76819650

>>76819557
pretty much just abzan rally but worse since you have less acess to good mill effects, ends up worse against control and combo but better against aggro.
but really, i only run it as orzhov instead of abzan because i don't have the lands for it + fiend artisan

>> No.76819681

>>76819618
>Do you think City of Guilds prereleases were full of people winning on T1 with their sick Dredge decks?
No, but dredge functions on a card. Your critter dies, you dredge it back if you want. No extra setup needed, it's not niche. Stop being condescending when you don't know how shit works.
>Even then, it's okay if a guild mechanic sucks dick in limited.
It'll still suck dick in constructed, and that's a poor excuse for poor design.
>Returning them to your hand at instant speed lets you cast them right there and then
Again, how many regrowth effects are you willing to run?

>> No.76819706

>>76819649
Yes but it also lets you make your damnations into a 5cmc plague wind.

>> No.76819712

>>76819485
Nice card i like it. But seems awkward to take t2 off to foretell, doesn't it seem like it wants to be in like an aggro deck?

>> No.76819766

>>76819681
>Again, how many regrowth effects are you willing to run?
However many you have and think are worthwhile? The creatures are fine without the ability, but become good with Regrowths since the ability basically negates the cost of the Regrowth. You're overthinking this and getting mad over nothing. Cipher sucked dick if you didn't pull evasive creatures and that saw print. But keep on giving me those sweet sweet (You)s.

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>>76819712
It reminds me of Xanthrid Necromancer. I think the card is probably better without the Foretell and in aggro decks, honestly.

>T1 play a dude
>T2 swing, play a dude
>T3 swing, play two dudes
>T4 swing, lots of creatures trade, pay 2B for four 2/2 zombies

If you tried to Foretell the card, it'd just shatter your curve. This is why I really don't rate Foretell's strength as a mechanic. Curving out is generally so important in this game, and no Foretell card so far seems like it's worth it to get it out faster.

>> No.76819840

>>76819507
Reverse Madness B - (Whenever this card would return to your hand, you may play it for its reverse madness cost.)

>> No.76819859

>>76819807
You could foretell it when you have cards in hand that you don't want to play because you don't want to overextend into a wrath. That two mana could just be two mana that would have otherwise sat around doing nothing.

>> No.76819864

>>76819485
damn, now I want to make a shitbrew with dead of winter and Rimebound dead

>> No.76819875

>>76819859
>you don't want to overextend into a wrath
Anon, it's an instant. Go ahead, tap out and Wrath me.

>> No.76819885

>>76819875
>instant
Bro I have Teferi on the field
The only instants are my Wraths

>> No.76819890

>>76819875
After I foretell, I can go back to flooding shit onto the board and only have to hold up one land instead of three for the privilege.

>> No.76819898

>>76819485
>"[...] cast it on a later turn"
so you can't cast a card you foretold on the same turn you foretell it?

>> No.76819916

>>76819890
Since when have aggro decks attempted to play around Wraths? If they do it you lose, if you don't spaff you hand you lose. Quit being a fag and cast your dudes.

>>76819898
Looks that way. Not that I see a reason you'd want to cast it on the same turn.

>> No.76819917

>>76819840
Do permanents count as 'cards' when changing zones? You usually see the 'non-token' rider instead. It works from the graveyard/exile to hand obviously but I think this would cause a lot of confusion when applied to permanents currently on the battlefield. Especially because you are proposing a replacement effect so if the mechanic DOES work with permanents in play you are casting them from the battlefield to the battlefield.

>> No.76819919

>>76817243
Is that Kinnan?

>> No.76819931

>>76819807
Probably, i wanna combine it with the Broodmoth for a complete blowout but that means a t5 play and seems kinda iffy. Reminds me a bit of the Zombie that refills your hand at instant speed too. Card could be nasty in maybe some kinda aristocrats-deck or against a wrath, you sacrifice all your dorks and then at end step get just as many. Seems nasty if you can make it work on a mana curve.

>> No.76819943

>>76819916
>Not that I see a reason you'd want to cast it on the same turn.
it could come up, maybe not for this one card, but i can see using the foretell thing, then during the end step they play something that i want to respond to with the card i foretold earlier

>> No.76819961

>>76819943
You could've just responded to their card without Foretelling yours. The Foretell has achieved nothing. It really does look like an extremely weak mechanic to me.

>> No.76819976

>>76819931
It feels like it would slot right in to the Rally The Ancestors deck that used Nantuko Husk/Bloodthorn Vampire and Zulaport Cuthroat.

>> No.76819991

>>76819976
Anon, the card costs 3 mana no matter which way you slice it. Describe to me a curve involving this card where you Foretell it and it's actually good.

>> No.76820014

>>76819961
Are you slow Anon?
>Hm, I don't want to cast my foretold Lava Spike (instant) right now because my opponent has no creatures. I don't have anything to do with my mana this turn though so I'll just foretell it now to save mana for later.
>At your end step I'll flash in my <CREATURE WITH 3 OR LESS TOUGHNESS>
>Oh, well that wasn't on the battlefield when I foretold my spell but now that it is I want to kill it ASAP.

It was not a complex hypothetical and you still completely missed the point.

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>>76819509
I thought the exact same thing, that card is nuts.

>>76819557
not him but pic related is my old list from Ikoria, definitely gonna have it ready for an update once Kaldheim drops

>> No.76820031

>>76819916
>Since when have aggro decks attempted to play around Wraths?
I remember it happening a lot in Standard when I still vaguely cared about Standard, probably around Ravnica era.

>> No.76820050

>>76819991
>Stitcher's Supplier
>Foretell this
>Stitcher's Supplier, Zulaport Cuthroat/Blood artist
>Any sac outlet (viscera seer, nantuko husk, bloodthorn vampire) + any combination of blood artist type effects or self mill
>Rally the Ancestors X=1, cast foretell card

>> No.76820062

>>76819961
The ability to pay for something early is very powerful. It's the difference between Counterspell and Seal of Counterspell: you no longer have to hold up mana every turn.

Though it matters less in Modern when you're just going to shit out a Growth Spiral with that mana instead.

>> No.76820090

I dont like Foretell because it's just creating a second hand. This is some gay YGO FoW faggot shit

>> No.76820091

>>76820014
>Though it matters less in Modern when you're just going to shit out a Growth Spiral with that mana instead.
Now you're beginning to understand. You're supposed to always be using your mana to increase your advantage. Simply putting your mana to one side for next turn isn't actually getting you ahead. And that isn't even considering that all the card does it make a zombie for each dude that died this turn, an honestly fairly underwhelming ability. No existing Standard deck wants this, and it's not even a consideration in Modern.

>> No.76820116

>>76820090
>Okay here's my Foretell exile zone
>And here's my Adventure exile zone
>And here's my regular exile zone
Now all that's left to do is try and bait your opponent into putting a card in the wrong zone so you can call a judge and get him a game loss.

>> No.76820117

>>76820031
Legends speak of a time when aggro players actually had to use their brains to play around things instead of just trying to mindlessly vomit a fast enough kill to avoid being drowned in a sea of value.

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>>76820117
>aggro players actually had to use their brains to play around things

Haha, you're funny.

*intelligently plays an indestructible haster to cleverly beat wraths*

>> No.76820190

>>76818420
I was running 1 Tendrils of Agony and 1 Laboratory Maniac. Storm10 is stupid easy to hit when you can find Will on command.

>>76819485
I like this. Always had a soft spot for Caller of the Claw. Played a bad Might of the Masses/Fling deck during Caw-Blade standard that ran Fresh Meat to overpower Phyrexian Obliterator.

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>Raphaël Lévy
>Martin Jůza
>Gabriel Nassif
>Ben Stark
>Brian Kibler
>Eric Froehlich
>Josh Utter-Leyton
>Gerry Thompson
>Ondřej Stráský
>Michael Flores
>OliverTomajko

>We're also donating 100% of the profits to The Trevor Project, a really awesome non-profit we believe in, focused on suicide prevention efforts among lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth.

The absolute state.
I feel embarrassed having ever purchased Magic product in my life.

>> No.76820210

>>76820116
you could add the cipher exile zone, if cipher saw play anywhere

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>>76820145
ah, the classic anti-control 4/1 haste for 4

nothing bigger brained

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>>76820194
is this real ?
of course it is, but link ?

>> No.76820239

>>76820210
>you could add the cipher exile zone, if cipher saw play anywhere
That's not the point, Anon. The point is you getting out 10 different tokens and laying them on the table, explaining to your GP opponent what exile zone each one is. Then proceeding to use none of them.

>>76820194
I mean, it's a funny idea to raise money for charity. Shame they picked such a bad charity. Shame giving to charity is fucking pointless anyway because the money just pays administrators.

>> No.76820242

>>76820228
https://www.etsy.com/listing/920520866/2021-mtg-swimsuit-calendar

>> No.76820278

>>76820194
>The Trevor Project, a really awesome non-profit we believe in, focused on suicide prevention efforts among lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth
Yeah, because Trans lifeline worked so well

>> No.76820279

>>76820194
>No autumn burchett
I don't want it.

>> No.76820306

>>76820279
I can't wait for the plan to fall through when it gets criticised for having zero trannies in it.

>> No.76820320

>>76820306
I unironically want an autumn burchett one. Specifically in fetish gear.

>> No.76820388

>>76820279
They couldn't rope it into it?

>> No.76820398

>>76820320
Leather or latex?

>> No.76820426

Why not a cute trap calender instead? If it's lgbt i mean, why not show the cutest side of it?

>> No.76820453

>>76820398
Latex obviously.

>> No.76820520

>>76820453
>Autumn Birchett in latex thigh highs
OOHHH GOD I'M COOMING

NNNGGGHHH

UUUUGGGGHHHHH

>> No.76820522

>>76820426
Anon what well-known MtG players are traps? Your friends don't count.

>> No.76820531

>>76816611
>like people that pretend beer and wine taste good
underage b&
don't feel bad, we were all like you once. you'll learn when you're older kiddo ;^)

>> No.76820601

>>76820426
Anon what well-known MtG players are cute? Your friends & children don't count.

>> No.76820607

>>76820520
Don't forget the gloves and chastity cage.

>> No.76820614

>>76820601
There's an Arena streamer called Mystmin who sounds like a little fuccboi.

>> No.76820631

1W - Search your library for two basic Plains cards and put them into your hand. Search for four basic Plains cards instead unless any opponent discards a card.

WWW - Put a 2/2 white Knight token onto the battlefield. Aftermath WWWW - Put four 2/2 white Knight tokens onto the battlefield.

WWWW - Enchantment; at the beginning of your end step, create a 4/4 white Angel token with flying.

Q: How busted are these, at Modern power level? (Bonus Q: Are they more or less busted than the cards they're pretending to be?)

>> No.76820686

>>76820601
>>76820522
Tru, most well-known are hideous unfortunately, not good representation at all. I figure they should just hire traps to dress up as popular magic characters.

>> No.76820696

>>76820631
First is fine for edh
Second one is overcosted and too much white
Third one is a generally worse court of grace

>> No.76820697

>>76820614
He really does.

>> No.76820698

>>76820686
what about hiring hot chicks

>> No.76820709

>>76820631
I mean, none of them would be able to lay a finger on Omnath piles.

>> No.76820712

>>76820631
The enchantment is perhaps a little much but otherwise they seem alright.
(Though I dont see the point of getting 4 lands to hand potentially early game)

>> No.76820725

>>76820698
>women
>in 2019

Nah

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>>76820607
>>76820686
If I stream Twiddle Storm in MODO leagues while dressed like this will you simp for me? Or would I need to grind Arena to make enough money?

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>>76820728
Yes. Now put on the dress.

>> No.76820760

>>76820728
I would watch if you're cute

>> No.76820763

This thread is fucking gay.

>> No.76820776

Cozy mmgay thread.

>> No.76820785

>>76820709
>>76820709
They're pretending to be W6 (get a shitton of lands unless someone bothers to take the time to kill it), Uro (little bonus, larger payoff), and Omnath (endlessly generate value). I was wondering what kind of ludicrous shit you'd have to staple onto a card in white to make it look comparable. Guess I undershot.

I guess one of the problems is that mana costs are basically twice as high in non-ramp shells as in ramp shells.

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>>76820753
Time to buy into Modern then.

>>76820760
I'm not but I can put on makeup.

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>>76820791
I can't wait to start hrt and become a cute trap streamer too, we should collab together sometime.

>> No.76820859

>>76820728
yes
I would only watch for the gameplay tho, no homo

>> No.76820926

>>76820841
>hrt
no. How does streaming work Can I type all the time? Cute socks absolutely nothing to hide my man voice.

>>76820859
Reasonable. I hope you like watching people scrub out. I haven't played a game of Modern in my life I'm a Legacy refugee.

>> No.76820955

>>76820926
It's possible to do some voice training to get a convincing female voice I've heard. Also I'm not saying anyone else try hrt, just that I'm gonna try to be a more convincing trap.

>> No.76820967

>>76819485
NICE

>> No.76820989

>Every single (((spoiler))) so far has been a rare

>> No.76821006

>>76820791
Go for it and link stream

>> No.76821013

>>76820955
Don't do it bro. Dressing up cute is fun but keep that shit online and in the literal closet. It really doesn't work IRL.

>> No.76821039

>>76821013
Look man, my dad started going bald in his early 20s, and hrt stops hair loss. I haven't started balding yet and I need to make sure I don't start. Because if I don't it's gonna start real soon.

>> No.76821041

>>76821013
it does but comes down to genetics.

>> No.76821054

>>76821039
Fair. If you do do it best of luck

>> No.76821057

>>76821039
Feels, my dad too. Just think before starting if you want boobs and be sterile for the rest of your life.

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>>76821039
>mfw i was already claus schwab tier of bald in my early 20s
feelbadman
I miss my hair, they were beautiful while they lasted.
The strange thing is i'm the only bald nigger in my family, from both sides. wtf

>> No.76821176

Also, idk if others baldbros can relate, but when i sleep i still have all my hair in my dreams.

>> No.76821185

>>76821054
Thanks man.
>>76821057
Yeah I've been thinking about it and honestly I probably wasn't going to be able to have children anyway, and most of the time hrt boobs are pretty small. If the hrt somehow works too good I could probably just go full tranny but I doubt it, I'll just be a more convincing trap when I try and get to keep my hair.

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>/mmg/ now has troomers

>> No.76821804

>>76820023
wouldn't it be better to run a few copies of return to the ranks to have some redundancy for rally?

>> No.76821858

>>76821185
If it would make you feel happy then go for it and see.

>> No.76821860

>>76821610
>he doesn't remember la troonie creatura

>> No.76821890

>>76821610
>konosuba poster thinks he gets to have an opinion

>> No.76821903

>>76821610
I just don't want to go bald, man.

>> No.76821932

>>76821903
Aren't most trannies bald?

>> No.76821945

>>76821932
Well most trannies don't take care of their hair like I do, and they start hrt later. Hrt does stop hair loss but it won't reverse it if you started too late.

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Look guys, I finished my custom Golgari cards for a Ravnica set that'll never exist! Call me a naughty boy and spank me.

Do you like my designs? :3c

>> No.76821994

>>76821903
Embrace your cue ball. It's not worth the health problems trying to fight it.

>> No.76822010

>>76821903
Shave your head clean, grow a beard, and start lifting fucking weights.

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>>76821945
You will finish like pic rel anon.
Just do what >>76822010 suggested.

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what a good thread

>> No.76822163

>>76822064
Those two that actually mention hrt are really promising for keeping hair. Also I already look too feminine to pull off going bald.

>> No.76822194

>>76819485
>watermark
are there going to be factions in the set?

>> No.76822202

>>76822104
Ikr :p

/mmgg/
Modern magic and gayness general

>> No.76822226

>>76822194
That would be cool for once. Looks like a raven.

>> No.76822245

>>76822194
Okay Anon here are your factions NOW FUCK THAT HERE'S SPOILERS FOR THE NEW PRODUCT YOU SHOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT

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>>76822194
>>76822226
only other card with a watermark has been this one i think

>> No.76822318

>>76822288
both cards have foretell. might be something like the raven sees into future stuff.

>> No.76822330

>>76822318
just like in muh heckin' game of thrones

>> No.76822332

>>76822163
>Also I already look too feminine
why not go full on trap? it's fun!

t. been a trap for 2 years

>> No.76822378

>>76822330
>got
Never heard of Huginn an Muninn have you?

>> No.76822428

Why is WotC so uncreative? Ice Age was viking metal shit too but it was something different, not literally just real world viking mythology with black angels added. They aren't even adding anything new or different. This set is just lazy

>> No.76822468

>>76822428
Because they are creatively bankrupt and don't care too much about world building anymore. Along with fantasy going to shit and become bad marvel-shit with boring tropes instead of proper world-building and fantastical stuff.

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>>76822428
WotC has been trying to expand their consumer base, which means forgoing obscurer references and more inspired creativity for safer and more recognizable stuff. Over the years they've been plagued with nepotism, political correctness, and pressure from Hasbro to increase revenue, which is why the quality of the art, lore, game mechanics, and card stock have decreased.
It's why we get a loser HAES woman involved in art direction.
It's why we get a gimmicky and uninspired Not!Indian steampunk plane (Hindu mythology is actually somewhat interesting).
It's why the Legion of Dusk, designed by someone who has talent and a shit to give, is the only interesting faction in Ixalan despite them competing with fucking pirates and dino-riding Aztec-Mayans.
It's why War of the Spark is poorly written and concieved.
It's why Ikoria is an utter shitshow where characters are vilified just for being concerned with their community's survival.
It's why Zendikar Rising's flavortext writers have given up.
It's why Kamigawa will become a soulless cyberpunk plane.

>> No.76822827

>>76815212
Kill me, Lurrus.

>> No.76822854

>>76822676
Ixalan was so fucking uninteresting. Imagine taking some of the most decadent, unbridled, savage people the world has ever known and turning them into a bunch of fucking Carnival hippies worshipping generic dinos. They were so scared of being racist they completely neutered their Aztec stand ins to the point where Mexicans, the direct descendants of the Azteca, preferred the Legion. Watch Apocalypto and then weep for what could have been.

>> No.76822896

>>76816624
>a art

Fucking graduate high-school english-101 before you post here dumbass

>> No.76822927

>>76819507
Good fix of the timing issues and hidden information issues.
IMO a better template would be:
>Composted {B} (If this card would be returned from your graveyard to your hand, you may cast it for its composted cost instead.)
The problem of "to make this work in limited and at common rarity, you'd have to warp your set massively with regrowth effects" still persists, but now you have something you can put on a card.

>> No.76823005

>>76821974
If you want to do 20+ cards, go to https://mtg.design/ so it doesn't look like utter shit

>> No.76823071

>>76820631
First two seem like shit. Just not good in modern. The third one seems like a one of in certain control decks, and that's it

>> No.76823319

>>76822896
Underage b& detected. Lurk moar.

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>>76816611
>like people that pretend beer or wine tastes good

>> No.76823460

>>76820194
Incredibly based.

>I feel embarrassed having ever purchased Magic product in my life.
Because you're a thin-skinned bitch.

>> No.76823599

>>76823460
Maro, did you hit the bottle for the first time?

>> No.76823619

>>76822927
The mechanic ain't there to be limited defining bro, it's just there to be nice if it happens, since Regrowth effects are generally playable anyway. It'll fucking crush games if you pull Jarad or the Guildmage though (see >>76821974).

>> No.76823683

>>76823599
Fucks sake, can somebody hit MaRo with the bottle?

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Cheers bros. How are you celebrating the revolution?

>> No.76823712 [DELETED] 

>>76823687
What revolution? ANTIFA pretending to be violent Trump supporters in front of cameras?

>> No.76823774 [DELETED] 

>>76823687
It's surprisingly boring. It's a much smaller protest than most of the BLM bullshit last year. Only one person shot and nothing is on fire.

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>>76823712
Today is a great day. (((They))) are scared shitless and hopefully people all over the world will find inspiration and courage inside themselves to push for the change we need.
>>76823774
Shill.

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>>76823687
I wish i was there to boot off the kikes, traitors and their pig bootlickers. And celebrate true americans taking back their country from the NWO commie tyranny and their satanic degeneracy.
Hopefully it's just the beginning of the US becoming a free country again. It's now or never, you know (((they))) are about to genocide the fuck out of humanity. What we see is law abiding population's intuition something very bad is about to happen to them if they don't act.

Stay stronk muttbros! You always had righteousness and divine law on your side, and now you finally have the will to act. It's a fight for your very survival.

ESCALATE
BURN THIS SHIT TO THE GROUND AND HANG THE KIKES TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR CULTURE AND KILL YOUR KIDS.
Support from France. If you act now ALL western countries under ZOG domination will get the willpower to do it too. This could change history.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.76823853 [DELETED] 

>>76823712
Yes. Those are ANTIFA. Protesting......the election of their candidate? The lack of any fraud being found?

Man, reality must be a trip for you guys. Every day it makes less sense yet you keep finding new excuses.

>> No.76823868 [DELETED] 

>>76823853
Anon, it's optics.

>Dress up like Trump supporters
>Do some violent protesting
>News stations report that violent Trump supporters have done something stupid

My little Anon can't be this naive.

>> No.76823871 [DELETED] 

>>76823687
The future lies within the white weenies.

t. George Orwell

>> No.76823884 [DELETED] 

>>76823842
Same i wish i was there to shoot my firearms and suck the dicks of all the chads for motivation in down hours so they stay strong and focused.

>> No.76823899 [DELETED] 

>>76823868
OK. How is that more likely than trump supporters doing what they were saying they were going to do for the last 3 months?

>> No.76823911

>>76822288
>more green goodstuff that completely punishes anybody for trying to interact with them
Wow 10/10 design thank you Maro magic is saved

>> No.76823926 [DELETED] 

>>76823899
Considering this is the first Trump protest that hasn't been counter-protested by Antifa, I'd say it's extremely likely. They're suspiciously missing. I wonder where they could be.

>> No.76823946

>>76823911
I remember when people were screaming this about Elder Garg. And then nothing happened and its barely part of the meta at all.

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AND MOST OF ALL DONT LISTEN TO THIS KIKE'S PUPPET DRUMPF.
HE TOO IS A TRAITOR AND WILL GET THE ROPE.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOODTREE

>> No.76823971

>>76823946
It's not even in the same league as Elder Garg, either. I don't think it's particularly close to being playable. No current deck wants it, and it won't create its own deck unless they print some permanent that says "Whenever you cast a Foretold card, draw a card".

>> No.76823978

>>76823946
I don't think battle mammoth will actually be played too much, it's just the retarded FIRE design philosophy at its core. We can't have little timmy feeling bad that his mythic rare got 1 for 1'd, we always have to make his card a net positive in card advantage while also being a legitimate win condition!
It's sad that a 6/5 trample for 5 is, by today's standards, a pretty abysmal statline especially for green. I would have expected this to be a 7/6 or 7/5, if it was then it would be busted. As is, it's mediocre...but still terrible design.

>> No.76823980 [DELETED] 

>>76823926

So wait, the lack of people counterprotesting a coup that was not announced or planned or legally permitted means it must not be the people who have been threatening to do this for months? Using the exact tactics that we have seen them use elsewhere? Doing things that even the worst of the protests in the rest of the country didnt do?

And you think its Antifa.....a group that doesnt exist by most measures of the word "group".

I reiterate my original statement. Wow reality must be a trip for you people! Every day a new delusion to protect your egos.

>> No.76824007

>>76823978
I see what you are saying, but I have also lived through a time where all green got was big tramply bodies that died to doom blade. This is still a vast improvement over that.

>> No.76824029 [DELETED] 

>>76823980
Anything that makes Trump and his supporters look bad works in Antifa and Biden's favours. It would be the easiest thing in the world for Antifa/Biden supporters to put on MAGA hats, join the crowd, and get rowdy.

>> No.76824048 [DELETED] 

>>76824029
Good thing it make them look good to finally grow balls, uh.

>> No.76824084

>>76824007
It's really not an improvement. This overreliance on creatures being insanely powerful spells tacked on to bodies has resulted in winconditions being very homogenized at the top level of meta decks. Now every format is dominated by Uro, even before that it's just been creatures: the tappening for years. It's now either a race to get under the big baddies with decks like burn, or to go completely over with infinite combos. You just can't beat Uro if you're trying to play "fair" magic, it's impossible. Even before that we've had periods like Eldrazi winter where it was the best deck in every metric.
Slightly overcosted creatures with shroud/hexproof? Fine. Moderate statbodies on evasive creatures or ones with moderate ETB/LTB triggers? Okay. Aggressively costed creatures with recursion, ramp, card draw, and life gain? Why the fuck does that exist?

>> No.76824102

>deletes the politicposting but not the trannyposting
Way to go, really doing your job there faggot, i'm glad you don't get a single cent for it.

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>telling US citizens to take back their country against tyranny and unlawful elite is against US law
>30 days
kike janjan is at it again!

>>76824102
It's a given our jannigger is also the trannyposter.

>> No.76824186 [DELETED] 

>>76824162
>posting your ip
You WERE using a vpn, right anon?

>> No.76824236

>>76824102
I got a good laugh out of the trannyposting, I'd rather that not get deleted than the nothingburger "revolution" posts.

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new card
it's like seaordain but slower

>> No.76824279

>>76824237
Most Sagas are so fucking boring

>> No.76824348

>>76824237
that's great draft support if they legitimately want UR giants to be a thing

>> No.76824390

>>76821039
i was looking like vegeta at 16

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>>76824348
Now red is the undisputed master of the Giant creature type. That's all fine. But lets talk secondary.
>Blue
>Giants.
I mean, not that there are no giants in blue. But don't we have years and years backlog of White being the secondary giant type?
Isn't (red,) White, Green giants in this same standard rotation?!
This is actually within the purview of the stupid 2-year development window. Are we intentionally sabotaging synergy?

>> No.76824484

>>76824468
>>76824237

All mechanics get rolled into blue. People now a days like bitching about green- but that's just the current fad. Blue has been stealing shit from the other colors since the 90's.

>> No.76824514

>>76824484
>blue steals mechanics
I always thought that was black's stick. Black sort of got everything every other color did, but at a cost - paying life or sacrificing creatures. They had card draw, removal, strong creatures, pretty much everything, but there were huge risks associated with it. Necro was THE best card draw spell in the game but it meant you had to skip your draw step AND pay life to draw cards.
Nowadays though it's 100% green that has every mechanic that's worth using. Protection, card draw, recursion, ramp, life gain, +1/+1 counters, and of course the one thing green should excel at, having the strongest creatures in the game.

>> No.76824546

>>76824468
The only synergy that matters is ramp, do thing, draw card.
And maybe draw another card while you're at it.

>> No.76824710

>>76824237
>Could had been a Tribal Enchantment - Giant Saga
And the other red giant would make it deal double as a better payoff. Why does WotC hate the supertype tribal again?

>> No.76824750

>>76822104
gib filters
or is it just recursive hiding?

>> No.76824915

>>76824750
just recursive hiding

>> No.76824985

>>76824710
>tsccst asked: I'm a fan of Tribal card type. I know the problem you noticed in development of Innistrad, but I think it's just that Tribal doesn't fit in the way Innistrad used. Actually, Lorwyn block and Rise of the Eldrazi didn't tell you that tribal was a mistake, and many people are enjoying Tribal spells in Modern Masters limited. I'd rather see Tribal in some special use, like Eldrazi or sliver spells. I think many people think so.
>Innistrad was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. It was problematic everywhere we used it because you can’t go half in which results in a lot of extra words for very little actual use.

>> No.76825129

>>76824468

Blue does get big unwieldy creatures so I think you can argue that they'd be a fit for the giant type. Kaldheim has tribal draft themes for enemy colors (GB Elves, GU Shapeshifters, UR Giants, RW Dwarves, WB Angels) so I guess they thought including dwarves was more important than sticking to normal giant colors.

>> No.76825176

>>76824468
In this specific set's case I think it comes from the fact that there are two main types of Giant in norse mythology: Fire and Frost giants. Fire and frost map very closely to two colors of magic: Red and Blue.

So they are just taking the mythos and mapping it onto their color theming.

>> No.76825324

did half the thread get nuked again ?
>>76824468
UR giants was confirmed as a tribe for Kaldheim tho

>> No.76825332

>>76825129
Blue's big creatures tend to be sea monsters (because of water and islands, as well as mysticism surrounding the unknown deep sea) or mythical flying creatures like sphinxes (because of percieved intellect and wisdom). Giants doesn't really fit with them because giants are typically dumber or at least just short-sighted. and lack any real mystique - they're just giant humanoids after all.

>> No.76825543

>>76824985
>It was problematic everywhere we used it because you can’t go half in which results in a lot of extra words for very little actual use.

What the fuck does that even mean?

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>>76824514
>tfw not enough mana to cast Necro and win the game.

>> No.76825687

>>76824514
blue is every color in the game combined with being the designer's favorite color it has and always will be the most busted color

>> No.76825769

>>76824237
And you guys made fun of my custom cards LMAO

>> No.76825781

>>76825769
It's a coherent design

>> No.76825818
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76825818

man.. you know it's gonna get banned in legacy eventually. crazy how it's going to be banned in so many formats

>> No.76825821

>>76825781
Doesn't make it elegant. The design of the Saga mechanic is a mess and leads to cards like this that are just words. Like, 2 mana Preordain is enough, but then there's a reflexive trigger and some other shit.

>> No.76825822

>>76825818
I won't resist until that lispy faggot is banned in every format. No exceptions.

>> No.76825833

>>76825822
*rest

>> No.76825862
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76825862

>win condition
>ramp enabler
>stabilizer
>card advantage engine
WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY BANNING THIS CARD?

>HAHA URO'S FAIR, ANON IT'S FIELD OF THE DEAD!
>*HOLDS UP MANA AT THE END OF EVERY TURN BECAUSE YOU CAN JAM THIS NIGGER IN ANY BLUE CONTROL SHELL*
>"END STEP GROWTH SPIRAL :^)"
>"PATH YOUR CREATURE"
>"COUNTER, DRAW"
>"TRIGGER, MAKE 2 ZOMBIES"
>*TAPS TEFERI* "DID YOU FORGET YOU CAN'T CAST SPELLS ON MY TURN ANON?"
HAHA WHAT A FAIR CARD GQKLWGJQWEIO GQWEIO GJQWEI GJQWEIOJ GQWEIO GIOQWEJ GIOP QWEJGIOP QWEJGIOPQWJGIOQWEJ IO;G JWEIO;GJ

>> No.76825887

>>76820520
I fucking romany’d so hard

>> No.76825926
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76825926

>>76825862
I fixed Uro.

>> No.76825930 [DELETED] 

Hey guys, i find it hard to not inject politics into my hobbies so i figured i'd combine them.

I read about this game on a funny post on /r/hobbydrama

I love fat trannies and niggers, is this the game for me?

>> No.76825934

>>76825862
Whoever designed it should be sterilized tbqh.

>> No.76825943

>>76825934
In fairness they likely already were.

>> No.76825945

jannied faster than the speed of light

>> No.76826072

>>76825945
what?

>> No.76826099

>>76823619
Then it's not really a "guild mechanic", but something from a side product like coomander precons

>> No.76826127

>>76824468
>no ice-themed frost giant in a norse set
even jotc aren't that stupid

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>>76826099
Sorry, I forgot all mechanics should be
>DO THING, DRAW CARD

Or how about
>DO THING, PUT +1/+1 COUNTERS ON THING

Or maybe the classic
>WHEN YOU DO THING YOU CAN PAY EXTRA MANA FOR ADDITIONAL EFFECT

>> No.76826271

>>76826157
no, it's me who's sorry, because it's me who forgot
forgot you're functionally illiterate

>> No.76826294

>>76826271
>Give an opinion
>Get criticised
>"Y-Y-YOU'RE J-JUST ILLITERATE!!! ;_______;"

>> No.76826337

>>76825543
Innistrad was the first post-Lorwyn tribal set, so typeline Tribal felt like a natural fit. Innistrad is also a very top-down set. Almost every card in it could have had Tribal printed on it, to the point where it was rendered meaningless. This led to the Tribal cardtype being scrapped altogether.
At least that was the official story when Innistrad launched.

>> No.76826359

>>76825862
uro is the best creature in magic

>> No.76826370

>>76826359
Remember when Goyf held that title?

>> No.76826452

>>76826370
Remember when Flametongue Kavu held that title?
Imagine a 4 mana 4/2 that SOMETIMES kills a creature when it ETBs being good nowadays. Also you have to play it on a board where it can shoot something or else it just commits suicide.

>> No.76826463

>>76826452
In fairness Kavu would be VERY good if printed now. It's a 3 mana spell stapled to a 3 mana body.

>> No.76826503

>>76826463
Very good? No. Played as curve filler in red aggro for standard? Maybe.
It's non recursive, after it hits the table it's vanilla, and it's absolutely terrible if your opponent is playing any non-creature deck or just doesn't have anything out. It is, at best, a marginal 2 for 1 in the era of FIRE where your high curve creatures need to be guaranteed 2 for 1s at worse, and at best be like uro and be a 4 for 1 at the minimum.

>> No.76826524

>>76826294
you proved your illiteracy when you failed to address any of the feedback instead replying to some made up nonsense (you) wrote yourself

>> No.76826536

>>76826463
Bonecrusher Giant would ensure FTK not seeing any play.

>> No.76826569

>>76826524
Your feedback was utter dogshit. Thinking you're giving good feedback doesn't mean you're actually giving good feedback.

>> No.76826616

>>76826569
the feedback was "dogshit" because (you) made it up instead of actually reading what i wrote

>> No.76826649

>>76826616
Maybe if you were able to form a coherent sentence your feedback would've made more sense.

>Errr here's a point
>And I THINK this is a point
>And here's my first point again because I'm already scraping the bottom of the barrel
>And uhhh I just don't like it

>> No.76826674

>still haven't addressed any actual point
you won't get any more (you)s
thanks for proving play design is not the worst that could happen to the game design because at least they're still better than /mmg/

>> No.76826756

>>76826674
How am I supposed to address incoherent points?

>> No.76826884

>>76825821
Find giant, draw giant, cast giant a bit early. How is what you're doing elegant? It'd be fine on one card in the set, but keywording it is really unnecessary.

>>76826157
Stop being disengenuous.

>> No.76826902

>>76826884
stop giving him (you)s

>> No.76826911

>>76825821
>giants send a scout party
>they attack you from afar
>then they attack directly
it makes even sense judging by just flavour

>> No.76827053

>>76826452
No, I remember when Morphling did both before and after FTK was printed.

>> No.76827081

>>76827053
>morphling
The fucking MEMORIES.

>> No.76827181

>>76822854
Mexicans actually have higher European admixture than indigenous, so what they're actually doing is just siding with their ancestors. It ain't Aztec they're speaking down in Mexico.

>> No.76827211

>>76825821
The Saga mechanic is actually just fine. It's planeswalkers done right: get a finite, fixed amount of value over a few turns, and go home.

>> No.76827260

>>76827181
no such thing as "aztec" language

>> No.76827272

>>76827260
I bet you don't even speak American.

>> No.76827315

>>76827272
on response, i am concede

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lads I just 1-4'd a pioneer league with burn, turns out I'm too retarded for the most simple aggressive archtype there is
I'm gonna keep practicing in legacy where even a monkey can play the deck with 16 bolts + fireblast

>> No.76827403

>>76827361
>legacy burn
Enjoy going 0-5 every league with one of the worst decks in the format

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>>76827403
It's actually pretty good right now.

>> No.76827435

>About to order some cards
>Realize all Magic cards do right now is make me angry, especially at WotC
>Empty cart, close page
Am I finally cured?

>> No.76827478

>>76827403
I didn't mean to imply that burn is a top tier deck in legacy, just that the archtype is extremely easier to play than in any other format from what I've experienced so far
there's a very small amount of things in legacy that can be answered with a bolt so throwing your burn spells upstairs is the right answer 99% of the time

also as >>76827421 replied, the deck is ok even with oko/uro running around thanks to roiling vortex

>> No.76827553

>>76827435
You're on the right track fren. Keep it up!

>> No.76827585

>>76827260
There is. It's called Nahuatl, you dumbass niggerkike.

>> No.76827599

>>76827585
the people today called "aztec" spoke more languages than nahuatl

>> No.76827618

>>76827599
Irrelevant. An Aztec language objectively exists, was spoken by the ancient Aztecs, and is spoken by some of them still today.

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>>76815212

Cry all you want I literally fucking TOLD you to buy LEDs on this day, twelve months ago.

>> No.76827770

>>76827682
Idk if other frens here experienced this but in the past 10 days i got literally wiped out of every RL stuff i had on sale on mcm. And i wasn't selling them for especially cheap, more like average prices. And a lot of them were bought by stores. For example yesterday TokyoMTG bought all my 9 copies of JAP humility who were sitting there since maybe like 2 years.
Idk if stores/whales are preparing for (or organizing) a massive RL buyout but i feel something fishy is going on bros...

>> No.76828051

Sometimes I hate niggers so much that I can't sleep.

>> No.76828106

>>76827618
>i will just ignore details that prove me wrong
>ha ha turns out i am right
ok schizo

>> No.76828122

>>76827770
Who would even risk a massive buyout of paper MTG right now? If anything I would expect deflation with how little faith the playerbase has in the company.

>> No.76828172

>>76828106
You didn't prove me wrong, though. Nahuatl is the language spoken by the Aztecs, both in ancient times and still by some of them today. It exists. You have no point, and are just retarded.

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>>76828122
>>76827770

>They don't know

>> No.76828296

>>76828051

A black woman is replacing Pence as the leader of the free world, so you had better get over your shit and learn to adapt.

>> No.76828320

>>76828122
It goes both ways fren:
- RL and old foils being now considered investment vehicles and going through the roof since people are defiant toward fiat currencies and are looking for inflation-proof collectibles
- few popular edh cards who were only printed once are going up bcuz of legitimate demand since it's the only format left
- everything else, especially modern/pioneer/standard cards, with big supply and no demand, who are now almost worthless

Imo those trends will only tend to exacerbate as long as the global situation (economic collapse, lockdowns,..) don't change.
Worth noticing the BTC and shitcoins bubble is inflating like in 2017, when the first global spike of RL stuff started. Back then i was already claiming it was due to crypto nouveaux-riches cashing out a part of their gains to park in others high-risk assets. I believe we will witness the exact same scenario all over again, but with a little difference : back then it was a highly speculative move, but now any shitcoin holder can look at the price chart for RL from 2017-2021 and see it just only goes up, no volatily, only gains, where cryptos tend to go up and down in cycles.
Now i understand why my RL cards got bought out just after BTC went to 36K..

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please stop posting sad things, i just want to talk about magic with my frens.

>> No.76828452

>>76828172
Take your meds.

>> No.76828483

>>76828320
>btc going up will create another wave of RL spikes
That's a good analysis froggy (i suppose that's you, right?), i totally forgot about crypto being linked to RL buyouts in 2017.
So basically the right move is to buy RL cards now, x2 the price and sell them to crypto whales in few weeks?

>>76828398
Define sadness by 2021 standards. I don't even have such feeling as happyness or sadness anymore. Not even sure we can still consider ourselves as "humans".

>> No.76828503

r8 gard

2B
Human Wizard
Whenever an opponent draws a card, draw a card and lose 1 life.
3/2

>> No.76828517

>>76828452
Seething.

>> No.76828521

>>76828483
Yes and yep. But don't forget about the new kid in the block : old foils, they will have a big role to play as well this time around!

>>76828503
Would be a bit too easy to abuse with wheel effects, don't you think fren?

>> No.76828534

>>76828503
FIRE

>> No.76828537

>>76828521
But the old foils I want are already expensive...

>> No.76828568

more custom gards

Urborg, but it’s green.
Stone Rain, but it’s green.

>> No.76828573

>>76828568
Ooh what about Wrath of God but it's green? Make it wrath of vivien or something.

>> No.76828577

>>76828483
>So basically the right move is to buy RL cards now, x2 the price and sell them to crypto whales in few weeks?

If by "now" you mean "one year ago" then yeah

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>>76828568
>>76828573
based and accelerationist pilled

>>76828537
Sorry fren, but if my calculations are correct they will x3 in price this year.

>>76828577
This argument can be repeated ad nauseam year after year since 1993 though. I mean sure, it's always better if you got them sooner than later but it doesn't invalidate my point. Which is : clown money will chase clown stuff. And there is a lot of clown money flying around lately.

>> No.76828650

>>76828573
1GGG
Destroy all creatures. Each player may search their library for a number of basic lands equal to the number of creatures they controlled that were destroyed this way.

>> No.76828665

>>76828517
I accept your concession.

>> No.76828668

>>76828650
>AFRO: to balance this make it opponents instead of players

>> No.76828670

>>76828568
Shivan Dragon except it's green
Baneslayer Angel except it's green
Thragtusk except it's green and can be cast from your graveyard by exiling five other cards from your GY

>> No.76828676

>>76828670
>Baneslayer Angel except it's green
Sweety....

>> No.76828681

>>76828639
Please they can't do this to me, I just wanted a foil weathered wayfarer and karmic guide for my angels deck.

>> No.76828682

>>76828676
Flying is not in the green color pie :^)

>> No.76828686

>>76828568
Ice Storm is nothing new.

>> No.76828702

more custom gards delver edition

U instant: Draw a card, then scry 1.
UR Countersquall (damage instead of life loss)
Pyroblast in MH2
Hydroblast in MH2

>> No.76828721

>>76828682
I was implying that there is a Baneslayer, sweetpee. It’s BIG GREEN N-

>> No.76828735

>>76828702
new spoiled card
G: counter target spell, creatures become hexproof, draw a card

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>>76828681
>tfw you are a coomer and just needed a foil phage for nostalgic faps but she's already almost worth a benji even though she's played in literally 0 decks

>> No.76828779

>>76828735
wow, very green, much fire!

>> No.76828795

>>76828686
more custom cards

2B sorcery
Target player sacrifices a permanent

BBB sorcery
Each player loses 1 life, discards a card, sacrifices a creature, then sacrifices a land
Suspend 3 (B)

>> No.76828798

>>76828702
Isn't the first a worse Opt?

>> No.76828814

>>76828795
Change the first to opponent, black shouldn't sac its own enchantments.

>> No.76828823
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>>76828735
U: Counter target spell that targets a creature you control. Draw a card.

>> No.76828831

>>76828735
Still unironically doesn't do as much as Veil, since Veil gives all of your permanents hexproof and prevents the rest of your spells this turn from being countered

>> No.76828837

>>76828823
What the fuck, this card breaks the color pie. It should be in green since green is all about protecting their permanents.

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>>76828795
Love these, but the harsh reality is the faggots working at jotc will never allow any (non-replacing) land destruction ever again because they all are green ramping timmys.
Your first gard would be worded
>target player sacrifices a non-land permanent
in our pozzed world.

>> No.76828847

>>76828837
'member when it was a white thing only? I 'member...

>> No.76828850

>>76828838
>target player sacrifices a non-land permanent
That's weaker text since it gives the opponent you target with it more options.

>> No.76828851

>>76828814
Yes it should, and it should have a black donate, too. Black gets to do everything and you motherfuckers need to be reminded of this.
Except countering spells, that’s for blue and green

>> No.76828881

>Bought a card before Christmas
>Seller messages me to say that it might take a while since it's the holiday season
>I say OK that's fine
>It's now January 7 and it hasn't been shipped yet

>> No.76828884

>>76828850
It's not about the powerlevel, it's about the pozzedlevel!
Also one could still be played vs an empty board while the other would be useless.

>> No.76828888

>>76828881
Same but they got here last Saturday lmao.

>> No.76828893

>>76828881
What was the card? Maybe it spiked and now he simply hope you somehow forget about it or abandon and cancel your purchase.

>> No.76828902

>>76828851
What's the point of these posts if you break pie just a little? Go mad.

>> No.76828911

>>76828893
A masterpiece (or whatever) Blood Moon

>> No.76828922

more FIRE gards

R instant
Deal 2 damage to target creature or planeswalker, then flip a coin. If you win the flip, double the damage dealt.

1B instant
Add BBB

>> No.76828938

>>76813476
Why are legacy players so damn soi? They're pretty much pure re-ddit.

>> No.76828946

>>76828911
Invocation or 2X master?
Though in both cases the prices for these remained totally flat lately, so that's probably not the reason. Maybe he's just super lazy, you better send him a message to wake him up.

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>>76828902
Donate is red, why not black?
Switcheroo is new territory so black could easily enter that territory, too.

>> No.76828953

>>76828946
The 2XM one where the moon is made of lava.
I'm a patient guy I'm just wondering how long is reasonable. I'll send a message if it isn't shipped by Friday.

>> No.76828963

>>76828838
>That edit
What the fuck? Who made this? Why?

>> No.76828969

>>76828922
maybe not word it as double and instead just 4, playtesters found the math too hard

>> No.76828975

>>76828922
>>76828795
>>76828702
Those are not fire in the slightest, they literally are the well balanced cards we should have had if jotc wasn't a bunch of greed-driven absolute cretins...

>> No.76828985

>>76820194
>>Gerry Thompson
Lost respect for everyone else on that list.

>> No.76828997

>>76828963
Idk but i hard a heartly kek when i saw it posted last week, a fine addition to my apu collection! I'll commission another alter of the kind if the artist shows up ITT.

>> No.76829012

>>76828997
Well I am here, what's up? I was gonna go to sleep tho so it'll probably be done tomorrow. But feel free to give your request.

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>>76820728
yikes That'd just be a follow from me, bro.

>> No.76829022

>>76828985
I bet most of them don't give a single fuck about trannies and other kinds of freakshow deviants. I personally knows 2 from this list and i know they couldn't care less about trannies kts. I wonder how much they were paid to have their name associated with this woke shit.

>> No.76829039

You guys don’t understand, black can do everything. I want the common black LD spells in MH2 alongside that 1cmc black RiP

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>>76829012
Go to sleep in peace then fren, i didn't think about it yet but by tomorrow i'll have think of something worth the effort.

>> No.76829046

>>76829040
Alright my guy, sounds good, I'll check in tomorrow for requests. I'm not the best at photoshop but it's fun to do little edits like that sometimes.

>> No.76829049

>>76829039
Every color can do everything. But white. White isn't allowed to have anything but Oring effects tied to fragile bodies. This is the whole color main attribute for the past 4 years.

>> No.76829053

>>76828798
It lets you go all in on Delver and flip him in Modern

>> No.76829063

>>76829049
>White isn't allowed to have anything
mhmm, really make you (((think)))

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76829067

Why aren't you guys doing something worthwhile with your time, like watching anime, instead of playing this trash game?

>> No.76829076

Nerf blue
Buff white
Nerf green
Red is fine
Black is fine

>> No.76829081

>>76829067
>he still think we play this trash game
where do you think you are?

>> No.76829085

>>76829049
I forgot white

1W
Counter target spell unless its controller pays (2/W)

1W
Return target spell to its owner’s hand

>> No.76829089

>>76829076
This is the truth.

>> No.76829103

>>76829076
Red could stand a bit of a nerf. It's actually quite pushed now and it only doesn't seem that way because of Uro

>> No.76829114

>>76820728
Will your twiddle version feature the DFC nuzen cards? I wanna see how they fit in the deck. I believe they could do some decent work but not 100% sure if worth it yet.

>> No.76829141

>>76829114
I would run valakek awakening maybe silundi

>> No.76829148

>>76829053
Good point.

>> No.76829168

>>76829103
Glad i'm not the only one who noticed it. Stuff like valakut awekening, moraug or leyline tyrant, to only pick stuff from the last standard set, are pushed af. By far the strongest mono color from the set, only forgotten because of multicolored bullshit like omnath.

>>76829141
Valakek is def the best one for the deck but no way you can fit in a non-U producing land bruh. To me it would either be silundi or sea gate restoration.

>> No.76829187

>>76829076

fuck white
white can get fucked
no more white
no more plains
fuck plains

>> No.76829196

>>76829187
Plains literally have some of the best land arts ever printed you absolute black gorilla nigger.

>> No.76829224

do blue (preferably) or red have any cards in standard that have if x does damage to target planeswalker then y special effect?

>> No.76829231

>>76829168
Silundi is like a sandbar but digs for echoing truth but idk about it
I agree with you on valakek but i think it’s worth it over the green splash and is more a good spell on a “land”. You only need one blue for twiddle.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3658194#paper

I like this list but i would cut the scryings and green for my prefered u/r lands, I think you have enough cheap cantrips to get there and I like the tolaria west, especially if valakek is in the deck, cmon man that’s pure value.

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>>76829067
Anime has lost a lot of it's charm for me because I'm always watching it alone.
Gib gf pl0x

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>>76829231
>it’s worth it over the green splash
Only joggers play G over the pure mono-U version tbdesu fren.
>You only need one blue for twiddle
My logic behind only having U producing land is you absolutely need to triple cantrips during your first 2 turns to sculpt your hand and dig for lotus, you can't really afford passing by.

>mfw i only had the occasion to play my fully foiled baby once and steamrolled over my opponents

>> No.76829348

>>76829296
I miss the twiddle brainstorming. Felt gud to have a mmg brewed list, even though the reddit faggots tried to steal all the glory only to make the deck x10 worse. I remember how hard we laughed at the screencap of their 60IQ questions/ideas. Plebbit is truly made of the dumbest motherfuckers on this planet.

>> No.76829373

>>76829296
>flat foils
WHAT IS THIS WIZARDRY

>> No.76829438

>>76829296
>My logic behind only having U producing land is you absolutely need to triple cantrips during your first 2 turns to sculpt your hand and dig for lotus, you can't really afford passing by
True but it come in tapped, so as long as it’s not the first land it might not matter but it likely will, may as well be a colourless. but dat spell....

>> No.76829506

On second thought the red is real rough, tolaria west is a lot better, which leaves silundi idk might b ok

>> No.76829663

>>76829076
I don't wanna see green nerfed. I wanna see it's kneecaps broken. It's been so hilariously pushed lately that it needs to be reigned wayyyyy back

>> No.76829852
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>tfw you topdeck lethal

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I SMELL LOW IQ
MIXED RACE
MIGATARD
SUBHUMAN
AMERIKEK AGAIN.

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