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CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES:
>Current meta, complete with deck list
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
http://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share cubes
https://www.cubetutor.com/
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://gatherer.wizards.com/
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
Your local chinaman (we're still researching this one)
Your printer + bulk cards + sleeves can also do the trick
>Library of in-demand alters
https://mega.nz/folder/DWBRwIpK#CLilq5z0hPY6iDfgsCu3sQ

>friendly, daily and threadly reminder that wotc is de facto printing an illegal cryptocurrency where prices are kept artificially inflated due to artificial scarcity and insider trading that gets distributed through lottery tickets and lootboxes and that they spend, all costs included, 2 cents per card to print them

Previous: >>76471109

>TQ
Do you like any of the Kaldheim cards we've seen thus far? Are any of your decks getting buffed?

>> No.76500366 [DELETED] 

>>76500234
>pasta in the op
>edh in the op so trannies seethe
Peak based.

>> No.76500383
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76500383

Fuck mtg

>> No.76500690

To the anon that suggested brion
I’m gonna do it

>> No.76500721

Dead game, soulless general

>> No.76500772
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76500772

https://youtu.be/p7gzx2Dgflc
How nice of them to give amon amarth a card to preview!

Now let me post this track by amon amarth and please read the lyrics. :^)
https://youtu.be/MyVHiHxPdjU

>> No.76500788

>>76500772
IS THAT... COULD IT BE... A NEW CARD FRAME?!?!??!?!
theres a very VERY special bottle of onions in the fridge that i've been saving for just this occasion

>> No.76501002
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>The absolute state of MTG

>> No.76501031

>>76500234
EDH player here, how's it going everyone?

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>>76501031

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>>76501002
>they

>> No.76501078

>>76501031
It's rough out here. How is Coomander Legends treating you?

>> No.76501118

>>76500772
I don't understand anything that guy is singing. How can metalheads enjoy such ridiculous larping? Geez.

>> No.76501130

>>76501078
Pretty good, I opened a couple draft boxes and got some nice value and cards I actually wanted for decks. Then I donated most of the commons and uncommons

>> No.76501135

>>76500772
Wow, they found a left enough metal band that hates christianity and right wings.
Good for them I guess.
I like the frame, and the card, shame it's gonna be $80 after all is said and done.

>> No.76501144

>>76501002
who's them? I only see one guy

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>>76501144
It's "nonbinary"

>> No.76501194

>>76500772
Hahahahaha this is the most capitalistic and larping counter culture thing I've ever seen.

I always felt like metal was stupid and fake but this is on another new level.
>>76501135
>shame it's gonna be $80 after all is said and done.
It's unplayable, it's gonna be like 5 bucks.
Anyway, stop buying this shit, idiot.

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>>76501130
did it feel good to donate your bulk cards?
did you calculate how much money you lost, while openening "a couple draft boxes"?
also:
post pic of pulls
>>76500772
>religious people are sheeps
wow, so edgy and woke
let me just preorder 2 cases of collector displays.
METAL!!!!!11!

>> No.76501198

>>76500383
Kill me Lurrus, end me before having to see more le epic metal MTG content

>> No.76501213

snow duals confirmed yet?

>> No.76501273

I'm going to do it, i'm going to make a soulflayer deck.

>> No.76501319

>>76501195
I spent about 240 total and pulled a hullbreacher, oppo agent, foil scroll rack, jewelled lotus and vampiric tutor which (along with the other nice cards) means I broke about even. Of course I'm expecting Jeweled lotus to go down in value and the other cards might too. Can't post right now because my stuff is out on my car and I'm too high to go get it

>> No.76501428

>>76501273
Playing the game in any way flays one's soul these days.

>> No.76501454

>yfw runed halo is a buck fifty

>> No.76501473

>>76501194
>stop buying this shit, idiot.
I never said I was dumbass

>> No.76501475

I really want to build a total aryan victory deck with boros that focuses on tokens and aggression to piss off my old friend who's a real liberal faggot. Im using Iroas as my commander. Anyone care to help guide me? Im still a bit of a novice.

>> No.76501536 [DELETED] 

>thread topic baited another tranny into the wrong thread
Based

>> No.76501603

>>76501144
It said there was two planeswalkers.

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>>76501002
>>76501075
>they
In italian it looks even worse, they have to use an asterisk at the end of gendered words to make them "neutral" and it looks and sounds absolutely retarded

>> No.76501673

>>76500772
>lyrics
seems like they are talking about jews not gonna lie

>> No.76501740

>>76501662
>marking degenerates with a star
based
>>76501319
>im too high to go get it out
cant say i dont envy you (sitting at work rn)

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>>76501195
>>religious people are sheeps
a) You can't be this stupid
b) Go back to r/thedonald
Your choice.
2/10 made me bite.

>> No.76501806

>>76501057
Alright. We just hit pique-meme.

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>>76501662
It's horrendous in French too. They put a . at the end to put the female pronounciation too. It's imossible to read and they also made up pronouns that straight up don't exist in French. It's litteraly the xir meme.

>> No.76501937

>>76501806
Pique?

>> No.76501978

>>76501454
Good. I remember when it was like $7.There was no reason for that.

>> No.76502014

>>76500772
... do metal fans really?

>> No.76502044
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>>76502014
Seems like they do

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>>76501662
>>76501928

>> No.76502180

>>76501673
Most of what the nazis said about jews was ripped straight from what communists said about capitalists. Co-opting the language of other political movements is a defining feature of facism.

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This guy is pretty much an auto include in mono-b reanimator right? Free graveyard triggers and essentially never having to pay it's Mana cost seems worth $8

>> No.76502234

>>76500772
I really like the art and cardframe but the card power is a bit meh..

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>>76501454
I'll pay a buck fitty for goblin cleavage.

>> No.76502377

>>76502187
I remember playing this back in Zendikar vampires deck and it was annoying in that too kek. Yes, it's strong.

>> No.76502502

>>76502187
Reanimator is about cheating out big strong creatures. Not a bunch of small bad creatures

>> No.76502672

>>76502502
I know that, but it's always useful to have a small easily recurrable body for sac triggers and death triggers. I could slap skull Clamp on this every turn.

>> No.76502680

>>76502672
Begone edhtranny

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>>76500772
>decent art only on the showcase cards
let's go with "no"
>Amon Amarth
the only redeeming member in their group was the guitarist if I remember correctly. That being said, the "It's Metal guise !!!1!" pandering not only looks fucking retarded coming from wotc, one of the pansiest companies on the planet, but it's also clearly going to be another Godzilla debacle
They'll push this shit for the consoomers who have heard that metal is a thing, people who like both will feel validated, and metalfags will turn their heads. The only clear result will be players angry at metalfags while the culprit, like always, will be Wotc


Fuck it, let's go on a small rant on metal's state and wotc:
The current trend of metal is ironically much closer to pop culture than wotc, (the ""recent"" big thing has been spoof bands in the vein of Alestorm (Pirate metal), Gloryhammer (Warhammer/WoW metal ?), Grailknights (He-man metal ?), etc... But since it's done with both talent & self awareness, it manages to avoid the hordes of nintendo fans/hitting critical mass & the problems they'd bring. Of course, wotc being out of touch wouldn't know that, but that goes without saying)
Judging from the bands that Wotc sent previews to, they're trying to pander to a couple of well-known bands (but not too known, we don't want to pay them too much money), EU metal publication platforms, and a couple (spanish?) euro bands that I don't know. The only good choices in the list of 15 to 20 are Rapsody of Fire (actual good band made by fa/tg/uys for fa/tg/uys) and Nanowar of Steel (more known by young fans, ie their demographic)

They're going for a vague "generic power metal" asthetic, which would mean a more 80s/90s conan style aesthtic, but not only is it is all over the place, it comes out as pretty jarring & overly pandering
Here's something close to what they're going for (pic related), tell me if you find any similarity with the set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo5rP_1k4lo

>> No.76502738

>>76502680
Oh shit. I didn't realize this was /mmg/. No wonder this thread is empty. Enjoy your sweaty dying format, losers. I'm gonna go sit at the fun table.

>> No.76502745

>>76500772
Kek, card is pretty nice, but I remember being into Amon Amarth. They’re those dudes that will shit all over Christianity, claim “uhh it’s actually all religion” and then continue to shit on christfags, but God forbid you say anything about Jews or Muslims.

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>>76502738
>this thread is empty
you haven't seen /pmg/ ! I mean, you couldn't even if you wanted, but still

>> No.76502770

>>76502715
is there a list of all the bands somewhere?
Btw Smoulder are really good and not famous at all, I was very surprised they chose them.
Check them out anon https://smoulder.bandcamp.com/album/times-of-obscene-evil-and-wild-daring

>> No.76502804

>>76501801
>Go back to r/thedonald
You idiots welcomed frogspammers and tourists, now you get to enjoy their residence here.

>> No.76502845

>>76502770
immediately the cover looks great & it sounds good, thanks anon

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>>76500772
>MtG in charge of metal

Lemme fix this shitty thread.
https://youtu.be/gqUPGa15Oto
https://youtu.be/_JABrGF8zh4
https://youtu.be/kE__YoKNnho
https://youtu.be/_xFc86tzFG4

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>>76502770
as for the list, the only thing we have to go through is the preview list:
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/where-find-kaldheim-previews-2020-12-15

The only other things of note I noticed were Glamshatterskull (insufferable tryhard) and AffinityArtifacts, which is like a personalized Autumn Burchett created just to spit on affinity players. I clicked on her link in the list, and what do you know she just went on a bashthefash rant about Kaldheim

>> No.76502947

>>76502919
can't beat dio, although I've always had a preference for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCXX4WUY_Gg

>> No.76502948

well millfags
you're t1 now
how does it feel?

>> No.76502954

This game has somehow become unplayably cringe in the last couple years

>> No.76502972

>>76502954
>somehow
What do you mean? You cannot think of the ways in which this game has gone down the shitter?

>> No.76502996

>a heavy metal norse vikings plane that also has a literal greek tranny in some kind of lame modern teen cosplay
I have to believe that companies do things in order to make money.
There is no way you can convince me that the shit they are doing now is what people want. But it makes money. Nothing makes sense anymore

>> No.76502997

>>76502948
>in standard only
that's probably the worst thing that could happen to millfags

>> No.76503010

>>76502997
the thing is that mill is very close to top tier everywhere else now due to the support. court of cunning is extremely strong in legacy and sultai mill can mill you on turn 3-4 consistently while gaining life to cuck aggro decks and having long term game plans with escaping uro

>> No.76503044

>>76502996
well it's simple, they just aren't interested in people who play magic anymore, they're a captive audience who will pay because they are literally addicted to it regardless of what the product turns into or it's qualitiy
so they go elsewhere, to more lucrative pastures (i.e., the lowest common denominator) so far in 2021: metal, harry potter, twilight, dnd, and whatever else they managed to get a deal to put in a secret lair

>> No.76503048

>>76503010
mill is barely tier 2 in modern and dedicated mill decks straight up don't exist competitively in legacy
just because an uro pile gained another possible wincon of milling someone out with court of cunning, that doesn't mean that mill as an archtype is top tier in the format

>> No.76503060

>>76503048
mill was laughingstock tier before and now it's tier 2
don't sleep on mill, faget

>> No.76503087

>>76502770
Smoulder are awful. They use the artwork of dead people instead of hiring new artists and their singer is a raging SJW (They’re from Toronto, i know them)

>> No.76503122

>>76503060
I'm not "sleeping" on mill, I just don't see how being tier 2 in modern and not existing in legacy as "very close to top tier everywhere else now"
I don't particularly have anything against mill either

>> No.76503135

>>76502715
This anon gets it. Heavy metal is kind of a lifestyle and gimmicks, although the members may be talented, are kind of ignored by most because they take the music very very seriously.

Rhapsody of fire are good because even though they sing about elves and dragons, they’ve always cared about that since the 80’s

>> No.76503144

>>76503060
>*devotes a single sideboard slot to an Eldrazi titan*
cute mill deck :)

>> No.76503145

>>76500234
I like how each planes pantheon has differnt twists on

>Hard to kill
>Conditional in some way

The gimmick of the Norse gods seems to be they revive if they die while holding thier own weapons, which I think fits the Norse myth style of immortality thematically without being a hard copy paste

>> No.76503155

>>76500772
Why would they make an anti-religion track then shout out Odin?

Do they not think Norse paganism counts?

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>>76502954
you know who to blame

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>>76503163
MaRo hates commander, but yes he is at fault for taking it out on everyone else.

>> No.76503196

>>76501662
>>76501928

And yet when people talk about introducing -x as a suffix to deal with this, romancecucks go

>NO NOT MY SACRED WATERED DOWN LATININO NOEEEEES!!!!11111 WE HAVE ACADEMIES AND EVERYTHING!

>> No.76503264

>>76503135
this. Lucas Turili & his boys were playing during the satanic panic, which most wotc employees can't boast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kLxQGbRYg

>> No.76503283

>>76503196
The italian language uses the male version of words when referring to "neutral", for example if you use the plural of a bunch of people both males and females you're going to use the male plural of that word, that's just how the language works.
This asterisk shit is totally made up on the spot and it's super awkward, considering you can't pronounce a fucking asterisk.
Don't speak about things you don't know, trannie.

>> No.76503286

what is a good overall deck for starting out? Haven't played in over 15 years and I don't have any cards anymore

>> No.76503300

>>76503196
you seem to be misunderstanding
the latin position is that these retarded pronouns have no place in language except to be ridiculed. There is no need to try to introduce them, because they'll fall out of style in the next decade or so, and desecrating a centuries-old tongue for some tumblr autism would be both insulting & pointless

>> No.76503308

>>76503283
Ummmm sweetie thats patriarchal and problematic and thus needs to be abolished, bigot.

>> No.76503332

>>76503286
depends on what format your friends are playing, but burn is generally the cheapest/easiest option

>> No.76503333

>>76503196
You are a fucking nigger. The word they use don't even exist in the language. It's as if I was using xir/xhem as my pronouns.
see >>76503283
Italian and french are gendered languages. There is no such thing as gender neutral shit here.

>> No.76503334

>>76503286
you should not play this game

>> No.76503347

When the fuck is pioneer masters so they can finally make the fastland and painland cycle entirely legal

>> No.76503355

>>76503163
EDH was popular because it sort of tied in with roleplaying games. To a limited extent you're playing as your commander, and have access to the sorts of spells your commander would have access to. The reason why the format has gone to shit outside of bugmen and whale circles is because that flavour is just gone.

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>>76501662
And I thought Spanish feminists were stupid.
>>76503185
If the failure of companion means the seeping of Commander style deckbuilding into other formats stops, thanks for companion.
I don't want to have to build around a designated set of cards (legends or companions).
>>76503185
I would like to hear his particular reasons to hate commander.

>> No.76503390

>>76503332
I was thinking one for the new EDH stuff and one for modern

>>76503334
but I enjoy suffering

>> No.76503392

>>76503355
edh is always shit because it's roleplaying for brainlets
you want to roleplay go make an actual character and play a roleplaying game
edh is for faggots who are too stupid to roleplay for real and too lazy to get a DM

>> No.76503412

>>76503390
EDH is in a different thread, you may go dilate there.

>> No.76503416

>>76503155
It's because they're retarded leftists, anon. They don't use logic.

>> No.76503421

>>76503392
It's just a different way to roleplay, that's all. What game has offered the same kind of experience that EDH offers? Fully customisable decks full of cool flavourful spells. Issue is that Wizards started to focus their corporate attention on the format, ruining it.

>> No.76503425

>>76503421
>It's just a different way to roleplay, that's all.
a shit way, for fags
it's not magic and it's not roleplaying, fuck off

>> No.76503436

>>76503425
My little Anon can't be this insecure.

>> No.76503439

>>76503436
>n-no it's not shit, you're just insecure
holy shit the cope

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>>76502715
oh shit, they got both rapsody and nanowar?
tho nanowar have a ton of very non-pc songs; like Tutte Cagne that is basically calling all women dogs, lots of their songs make fun of gays and they dress like this, also their stage names will probably make most of wotc pop a vein
>>guitarist Mohammed Abdul

>> No.76503584

Reminder that edh is fine, you're just mad that wotc sacrificed your formats for its sake.

>> No.76503701

i cast jeweled lotus

>> No.76503703

>>76503584
>It's fine, they just ruined the established game for what was meant to be fun, in-between round games and multiplayer.
Fuck you.

>> No.76503732

>>76501002
I don't mind it being nonbinary, tho I'd like them to make a tranny planeswalker someday. Why did it have to be a nigger tho? And such an ugly one to boot.

>> No.76503734

>>76503703
I never said them ruining the game wasn't a problem. Just that the format itself is a fine format to play, nothing wrong with it aside from how wotc decided to try and milk it.

>> No.76503743

>>76503703
Competitive Magic went to shit long before Lurrus. It had been trending downwards for years before WAR even landed.

>> No.76503746

>>76503584
>4 autistic homosexuals sitting in a circle talking about their cats
>all of them sit there not making eye contact or even attacking or anything
>the least homosexual of them plays a card that violates the social contract like doom blade
>asked to leave the group, the rest of the night is spent talking about what a jerk he is because edh players don't have much going on in their lives
>a 5th player is tagged in to replace him, all edh groups are 5 players because one will inevitably be kicked out or ragequit or just have to leave during the 4 hour game
>eventually one of the homosexuals draws into a way to tutor 8 times and infinite combo across the whole board
>there are 100 lands in play but no one has a single piece of interaction to stop this
>the three losers seethe because they are so mentally fragile they can't handle losing or competition which is why they play EDH
>cope by saying "it's just a game it's just for fun"

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>>76503583
>>>guitarist Mohammed Abdul
>>>real name Valerio Storch
based retards

>> No.76503789

>>76503732
>tho I'd like them to make a tranny planeswalker someday
Why?
I don't want to see shit in this fantasy game that I can see easily in real life. How about making an interesting character who has more to them than their sexuality or skin color? Why do we keep getting a limitless stream of interchangeable ethnic pandering characters whose whole personality, history, and even future, fits in 1 paragraph?

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>>76503746

>> No.76503834

>>76503789
>Why?

Tbqh mostly so I can use it as avatar in Arena. Not like this game's story can be salvaged.

>> No.76503848

>>76503793
someone post the gavin-sorin story

>> No.76503850

>>76503196
>JUST FESTROY YOUR ANCESTRAL CULTURE FOR THE GLORY OF MUTTOIDAL MULTILKULT AND JUDAISM!!!
No.

>> No.76503907

>>76503793
Nothing strawman about that. The only thing I won't agree with immediately is the insults, but the table boils down to
>Politicing
which usually involves someone being ostracized for playing the wrong cards or not letting people 'have fun'. The only way you can get around that is competitive EDH and tournaments with prizes, but at that point why not just play a more consistent format?

>> No.76503912

>>76503746
is this what modern does to your brain?

>> No.76503920

>>76503912
He is right though.

>> No.76503970

>>76503907
That's also not true, you've gotten your perception of edh from mmg which doesn't play and only seethes, literally none of that is true because most players understand getting mad about cards in a casual format is fucking moronic.

>> No.76503982

>>76503584
Based

>> No.76504017

>>76503970
Apparently you don't play EDH enough. People whine about 'deck power level' all the time and get pissy as fuck when you stop them from doing something. You could blame it on me being a tax/blue player which is totally fair, but I have seen it way too often where someone plays a taxing card and people begrudgingly play out the match and shun the fuck out of you. Like I said, the only place this doesn't happen is in actual edh tournaments, but you usually get targeted pretty hard if you're known as 'that guy with smokestacks'.

>> No.76504030

>>76503907
My LGS plays nothing but commander but they're all competitive as fuck. Their excuse for not playing any 60 card format is that EDH has more deck variety or something.

>> No.76504054

>viking theme
>the absolute BEST chance for wotc to fill the game with niggers and fags

>> No.76504072

>>76504054
just wait for the harry potter set
I predict a big uptick in trans representation

>> No.76504077

>>76504017
I do play edh quite a lot and I've never had problems when I drop something like armageddon or play stax/tax decks. It may just be a playgroup problem, but I don't believe it could possibly be that common. I refuse to believe that the average magic player is that much of a sperg.

>> No.76504084

>>76504077
shows what you know

>> No.76504110

>>76504077
>I refuse to believe that the average magic player is that much of a sperg.
how? how can you refuse to believe this?

>> No.76504122

>>76504072
WotC will have to choose one, they can't have both the Harry Potter fans AND the trannies anymore.

>> No.76504147

>Someone brings a UW EDH deck to the table
You already know that it's going to be fucking miserable to play against one way or the other. It's going to be annoying lock pieces and uninteractive combos. Oh boy.

>> No.76504154

>>76504122
No, they will have both, they will just release a lengthy article explaining why. This is why I strongly believe there will be an uptick in trannies in the set, to make the crossover acceptable.
Consoomers MUST consoom.

>> No.76504172

>>76504154
>they will just release a lengthy article explaining why

Maybe, but neither of those audiences can be reasoned with so it won't matter.

>> No.76504194
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76504194

>>76504077
>I refuse to believe that the average magic player is that much of a sperg.

>> No.76504207

>>76504122
We have a literal nonbinary planeswalker in the game now from ancient Greece, wearing some kind of Ms. Marvel cosplay with a soul patch and that cyberpunk hair, a combination of features that make absolutely no sense anywhere at all
They clearly don't care

>> No.76504224

>>76504077
edh is the sperg format, anon

>> No.76504227

>>76504172
Correct, but they will anyways, the presence of an article alone is what they need.
Similar to how they released the BLM article but still refused to hire any black people. Which is hilarious, that they're a bunch of white people who hire white artists to draw black people while acting "woke."

>> No.76504233

>>76504110
>>76504194
Please they can't be spergs, you don't understand what this means for my reputation.

>> No.76504256

>>76504077
Are we talking about the same game? Magic players in general are probably one of the most retarded fan-bases in the world

>> No.76504265

>>76504233
Everyone already knows you're a sperg, you cannot hide it, that's what makes you a sperg.

>> No.76504335

>>76504227
Does all this virtue signalling even get them any new players? Every tranny that plays this game already played it when they were just regular nerds, and niggers still mostly flock to Yugioh.

>> No.76504407

>>76503387
>I don't want to have to build around a designated set of cards
Well Anon that has been the prevailing philosophy behind every limited format for almost a decade now. "Keystone uncommons" are the most for-retards-by-retards thing I've seen in MTG and I've seen a LOT of retarded things in design recently. Ignoring that, you now have the whole giant archetype in Kaldheim that has cards that can ONLY target giants you control. Not 'target any creature for small effect, get bonus if targeted creature is a giant' but ONLY target giants. It's like legendary sorceries but without any of the flavor or flashyness to justify the shitty gameplay.

>> No.76504429
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76504429

>>76503196
the asterisk thing is so forced and unnatural to the language that whoever translated the paragraph at >>76501662 forgot to use the asterisk where it's underlined in blue, also the word underlined in green is literally wrong: it should be giavellottista

>> No.76504435

>>76504335
Honestly, it's difficult to say, all I know is that they keep pumping product and subhumans keep buying it.
I'd be very interested in seeing how their paper sales have been during the rona, I would think they would have to be lower, but how much of the MTG economy is now speculators and big online retailers who are buying shit as an investment? How long can this trend continue?
Lots of questions, and only time will tell the answers.

>> No.76504470

>>76504407
I am ok with this. I would rather have weak fun sets than power creep.

>> No.76504476

>>76504407
you only saw a single card that does that shit and you assume it's a whole mechanic? let alone the fact that that card isn't even in the regular set so it won't appear in limited

>> No.76504486

>>76504227
Normally I'm skeptical to affrimative action because it contradicts ideas of racial equality and meritocracy, but since WotC doesn't care about merits, as we can see by their shit design and non-existent playtesting, they might as well go with affirmative action. They have nothing to lose but everything to gain.

>>76504335
It gets them more Seattle-types. The truth is WotC aren't marketing to the "urban market". They're well-aware their cardboard is overpriced and more obscure than YuGiOh. They're hoping to get the "urban market", but they're really aiming for the wokesters and troons.

>> No.76504500
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76504500

>>76503584
you'll never be magic kek

>> No.76504503

>>76504435
Hasbro will hopefully kill the investor side of the game and things will be way healthier then.

My guess is that if anybody is buying product BECAUSE of the virtue signalling is white liberals, niggers don't care nor have the kind of money you need to play this shit (which is why they play Yugioh) and trannies either already played this before or are also too poor.

>> No.76504546

>>76502923
Cosplayers are so fucking cringe. 93/94 just take me back...

>> No.76504561

>>76503970
>mmg which doesn't play and only seethes
ironic coming from someone who brags about not playing the game

>> No.76504573

I didn't even notice there were more Kangzheim spoilers.

>Halvar
Obvious Standard staple. Already wish they'd stop with these DFCs.
>Kaya
Fairly flavourless bog standard 5 mana Standard walker. The minus is removal, the plus is value, the ultimate wins the game. Yawn.
>Magda
Obvious EDH bait.
>Realmwalker
Obvious EDH bait. Will most likely be a valuable semi-staple.

>> No.76504581

>>7650384
the what? have i missed something?

>> No.76504584

>>76504486
It's arguable as to whether or not it would be affirmative action, it seems that every black candidate who applies gets turned down for not "fitting the culture" at WotC. So these wokesters are either closet racists or these black candidates aren't woke enough.

>>76504503
Hopefully, the massive amount of product being pumped indicates to me that killing investors is a real possibility, but I wonder if that's going to be from the weakness of investors to continue to buy stuff that isn't making big enough returns or the weakness of the players to keep playing this game as it goes to shit. We can only wait and see...

>> No.76504603
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76504603

>>76504429
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you can always count on the italian translation team's incompetence
>brought to you by the same retards who thought pic related was a chimney top instead of a spinny top

>> No.76504625

>>76504603
>He doesn't TAPpata his Cappa!

>> No.76504652

>>76504603
can you imagine calling it trottola delle profezie del sensei though? that sounds stupid af lol
>sulla tua end trottolo
lmao

>> No.76504717

>>76504584
>So these wokesters are either closet racists or these black candidates aren't woke enough.
Intersectionality is a meme. The "Black Queer Trans Non-Binary Lives Matter" thing is a white liberal moralist dick-measuring contest to see who can pretend to love the most minorities. Even more liberal-minded African Americans don't like having their civil rights protests co-opted by random tumblr memes.
I'm not saying one is not allowed to care about gays and blacks at the same time, but trying to mesh them dilutes the preaching of both.

>> No.76504877
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76504877

>>76500234
Since there's no dedicated spoiler thread, here's a few tidbits from set design:

>five-color legendary enchantment
>a card that allows you to kill someone with poison
>A card with a {W}{W}{U}{U}{B}{B}{R}{R}{G}{G},{T} activation
ok
>2{B} for a 6/6 with deathtouch
finally, a black card with downside ? Who am I kidding, it's going to be more value
>a card that lets you use a creature’s toughness to perform an action normally using a creature’s power
because who wouldn't want that ? :^)
>numerous new noncreature tokens
and here I thought food was bad
>a card that can make a token that’s a copy of target permanent for no mana
edh bait
>a black creature that can copy other creatures
ok
>the introduction of a creature type that players have been wanting for years
hold me /mmg/ I'm scared
>a card with three activation costs, one that’s only ever used once before and the other two have never been used before
snow confirmed
>protection from God creatures
Maro is enlightened by his own intelligence
>Sacrifice five Treasures
>“if three or more creatures died this turn”
>“Choose 1, 2, or 3 at random.”
ok
>“except for Giants, Wizards, and lands”
>Angel Warrior
>Zombie Rogue
>Dwarf Cleric
>Horse Spirit
>Vampire Dragon
I guess they're really pushing support for that shitty DnD set huh
>“you may search your library and/or graveyard for a Rune card”
Rune card type confirmed ?
>“As long as you control three or more legendary creatures”
>Legendary Creature – Wolf
>Legendary Creature – Bird Spirit
>Legendary Creature – Giant Wizard
>Legendary Creature – Demon Berserker
>Legendary Creature – Squirrel
EDH bait, and shitty ones at that
>“X is the number of Vehicles you control plus the number of Equipment you control”
RW equip could shit all over standard, maybe
>“As long as you have at least 7 life more than your starting life total”
more lifegain payoffs, exactly what white needed :^)

>> No.76504894
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76504894

>>76503746
I run Armageddon and Ruination is every deck that supports them, Anon. One faggot complaining about his lands getting blown up =/= the group shitting their pants. Literally only ONE other of those players has to be cool for it for you to break parity, which makes it okay to play in that group, since you get an automatic +1 for the card being legal to play in EDH.

>> No.76505033

>>76504877
Wolf Legend and Protection from Gods is Fenrir calling it.

>> No.76505065

>>76504573
>Realmwalker
>Obvious EDH bait
Pioneer Spirits says hello! Maybe even Modern seeing as it gets hit by CoCo

>> No.76505084
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76505084

Is there any multicolor Modern deck besides RW Burn that can be build without fetchlands?

>> No.76505088

>>76505065
Yes a deck with tempo elements like Spirits has been CRAVING a 3 mana 2/3 with no immediate turn 3 value that MIGHT draw you an extra card or two.

>> No.76505100

>>76505033
I mean, we already know that there was a wolf legend from the figs. That being said protection from gods sounds pretty pointless gameplay-wise, so it's probably real

>> No.76505133

>>76505084
I mean, you can always build a two color deck without fetches. 3 is stretching it, unless you already have filterlands or shocks or whatever

>> No.76505151

>>76505084
Storm

>> No.76505166
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76505166

>>76505151
But Anon, Storm is a mono blue deck.

>> No.76505175

>>76505166
based twiddlechad

>> No.76505229

>>76505175
If I ever felt like playing Modern against at my LGS I think I'd just throw Twiddle back together. It never performs well because everyone brings 3-4 pieces of hate for the one Storm player in an LGS of a dozen players once they know they're coming, but dabbing on whales with a $50 Kamigawa bulk pile never really gets old. And then there's that time I got to 24 spells while my opponent had a Narset out the whole time. Ever cast a Serum Visions multiple times in a turn knowing it's only going to Scry 2 but it's not even bad at that moment in time? I have.

The best part about putting it back together would be watching all of the regulars immediately drop $100 on Force of Negations. I'd be tempted to never go again after they'd done it.

>> No.76505248

>>76505166
You have to play grapeshot and past in flames tho>>76505166

>> No.76505286
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76505286

Do people really see NOTHING wrong with this card?
>removal tacked onto a creature as a 2-for-1, except the costs are split so it has no high-cost drawback expected
>at worst it's a bad Shock, but you can later cast it as a creature
>said creature is not just on-curve for it's own spell, but the creature itself is overpowered, being a 4/3 with removal punishment for just 3 mana when it would barely be a 4 mama creature on it's own

Same with Light Up the Stage:
>1 mana draw 2
>until end of turn feels bad, so just push it to the next end of turn lol

>> No.76505326

>>76505248
>Grapeshot
Technically not since you could win with Aria of Flame in its place, or a bunch of other things. People dabbled around with WAR Jace and going for self mill wins.
>Past in Flames
Technically not because you can win without casting it.

I assume you mean the deck needs red mana. Lotus Field makes any colour of mana. "Mono Blue" might seem a little disingenuous, but "5c Storm" would be retarded.

>> No.76505339

>>76505286
What do you mean nothing? It's obviously pushed to shit.
WotC seems to want a mono-red deck to be viable in standard at all times, but because standard has become so insanely pushed, red needs to get pushed as well to stand a chance of being in the meta.

>> No.76505424

>>76505286
Everyone knows it's pushed to hell. Even on the creature side, a 4/3 with built-in protection, for three mana? It's absurd. But Magic is powercrept to hell, so there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.76505458

>>76505286
>Do people really see NOTHING wrong with *post 2018 card* ?
>where_do_you_think_you_are.png

>> No.76505476

>>76505286
Anon, the issue is there are so many egregious mistakes at this point that it's impossible to whack all the moles. Yes guaranteed 2-for-1s on cards which would've been borderline playable without the extra part are bad, but Wizards won't ban dozens of cards to get rid of them.

>> No.76505480

>>76501002
>I have the incredible privilege

>> No.76505765

>>76501928
At this point using plural calque from english would be better IMO.

>> No.76506024

>>76505286
This card is so fucking medium compared to so much other shit that's come out, it's actually funny to see someone bitch about it.

>> No.76506054

>>76506024
and yet it's top tier in standard

>> No.76506107

Trailer for Kaldheim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MI2XA-qgpk

>> No.76506128

>>76506107
Oh god the goosebumps all over!

>> No.76506176
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76506176

>>76506107
It's actually working, bravo wizards

>> No.76506239

>>76506128
>oh em gee I’m getting goosebumps!!! i must consuuuumeeeee!!!
Pitiful.

>> No.76506257

>>76505286
Ah, did anon get his shit pushed in by a mono colored deck?

>> No.76506260

>>76506176
>Metal aesthetic
>Shitty computer drawn art
>WE WUZ VIKANGZ
>Nonbinary walker
Funny how the people who used to rage against the machine became a part of it.

>> No.76506288

>>76506176
Most posts like this on social media are made by bots that are trying to create a specific environment.

>> No.76506346

>>76506288
that or "getting back into the game" means "took a break for 2 months"

>> No.76506400

>>76506260

Wasn't metal always about non-conformity and not bowing to the system? Seems like a non-binary character would line up with that just fine. Nothing pisses off conforming religious folks than putting your weiner/puss in the wrong place.

>NOOOOO!!! METAL IS FOR STRAIGHT WHITE KIDS ONLY!!! MUH EASILY THREATENED MASCULINITY!!!!

Just stop being a pussy bro.

>> No.76506405

Reminder that premodern is the best format

>> No.76506409

>>76506176
>>76506288
I was gonna say, this reads exactly like a bot

>> No.76506423

>>76506400
Weird how the values of every single traditionally non-conformist group line up perfectly with the McDonalds HR department these days.

>> No.76506430

>>76506400
>Wasn't metal always about non-conformity and not bowing to the system? Seems like a non-binary character would line up with that just fine.
Maybe somewhere like the Philippines or Russia, but not in America or most other 1st world countries. Do you live under a rock, bud?

>> No.76506519

>>76506430

I never got the message from any metal band I've ever listened to that you need to conform to a specific peepee weewee paradigm. How fucking retarded would that be?

>DON'T LISTEN TO THE SYSTEM! EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO MATTERS OF SEXUAL EXPRESSION! THEN YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE SYSTEM! AND DO WHAT YOUR PASTOR SAYS IS MORAL AND RIGHT!!!!

Sounds pretty gay to me desu. What kind of metal do you listen to?

>> No.76506543

>>76506400
>religious folks are the conforming ones
>tranny shit are totally wild and fringe
Nice try MaRo its not the 1980s

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76506547

@76506519
>Missing the point this hard

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76506667

>>76503163
>(((Goldner)))
Of course i know who to blame, it never changed.

>> No.76506683

>>76503196
spotted the literal spiritual mutt

>> No.76506775

>>76502715
I can't fucking stand the fake ass pseud metal that looks like wrestling shit. It's revolting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfyupe_412I

Line them all up for the firing squad.

>> No.76506777

>>76506683
on all levels but physical I am mutt

>> No.76506802

>>76506400
>Wasn't metal always about non-conformity and not bowing to the system?
metal wasn't really about non-conformity, to me that's more of a goth/punk deal. The non-conformity came out as a result of metal culture, but it wasn't a goal, the goal was to make great music

>> No.76506898

>>76502923
>check his tweet
>already blocked
Kek.

>> No.76507021

>>76506802

Ok sure, the goal was to create great music. I'm sure no other genre has that goal lol. I guess in your mind metal was created to make loud sound go DUHDUHDUHDUHDUH.

But you have to be able to understand the themes of what you're listening to right? I'm not saying that every metal artist was all about fighting the system and opening people's eyes to the unfairness of conformity. I mean Christian Metal does exist and it certainly doesn't have those themes. But most of the popular stuff does. Try opening your ears and eyes and listening to what the artist is trying to say, it's fun.

I know these aren't strictly "metal" by purist standards, but listen to Prison Song by System of a Down. Or Enter Sandman by Metallica. Or Killing in the Name by RATM. There are definitely political and social themes in all of these songs, and they're not trying to tell you to be straight and hate gays.

>> No.76507070

>>76506405
If there was a format like EDH "before jotc got their hands on it" I would vote that, but yeah PreModern or 93/94 right now.

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>>76503196
Ayo hol up. We wuz officially kangz now so you crackas can't tell me how to talk das racist.

>> No.76507146

>>76501928
I speak French and this kind of writing is not official at all. They're just pandering to their customer base

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>>76504503
>>Hasbro will hopefully kill the investor side of the game and things will be way healthier then.
Irrelevant when the game is pozzed trash you don't want to play.

>> No.76507223

>>76504652
It's a fucking pendolo dude. Never heard of the pendolino divinatorio? Mosca? Doesn't ring a bell?

>> No.76507242

>>76507188
Lmao, is this real? Where is the WOTC testimony from?

>> No.76507306
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76507306

>>76506775
what are you even talking about ?
Judaspriest became popular three years before Manowar, and both were very influential in regards to heavy metal's development. The difference was that Manowar was thematically about sword and sorcery that would later go on to inspire power metal, while playing music that was clearly heavy. Judaspriest on the other hand became the model for what the heavy metal aesthetic *is*
If you're just talking about the art, it's using codes of S&S artstyle (Think Conan or Elric covers), so not exclusive to the group or a genre of metal

>>76507021
>you have to be able to understand the themes of what you're listening to right?
See, that's the thing, I never really liked those themes. So, while I have listened to all of the songs you listed, at the time they didn't really influenced my vision of metal because I didn't listen to them on the regular. I was mostly listening to heavy/power groups telling songs about liches & heroes, magic swords & dragons, to the point that for me they're indistinguishable from the old-school fantasy aesthetic, and even metal itself, which I find hard to separate from tabletop
I can definitely agree that some metal groups are political, I just don't care because, frankly, most artists are retards and I'm rarely interested in the topics that they would explore

There's also the fact that i'm an esl, so I'm less tempted to attempt litterary analysis in another language, especially if it's about burger topics

>> No.76507319
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>>76507242
it's from the "humans of ikoria" articles where they tell you the art direction for their cards

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>>76507319
>tfw we will never have half naked lolis

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>>76506400
The system wants you to be a trans faggot today, have you been living under a rock for 30 years dude?

>> No.76507394

>>76507319
why does it say blue and green? The card ended up white black, what happened there?

>> No.76507428

>>76507394
Maybe they had a moment and checked themselves

>> No.76507431

>>76507319
>the only good monster is a dead monster
B A S E D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mvmHwCxw5A

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>>76507431
he is the baddie though

>> No.76507469

>>76507021
I would argue right now the pop culture impression of metal isn't system of a down or rage against the machine. It seems more like the power metal groups like Sabaton have been the popular bands recently. And their themes aren't really "fighting the system"

>> No.76507475
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76507475

Ok so few weeks ago i followed froggy's advice and bought a bunch of court of cunning, but the seller sent me copies of court of grace instead. Should i ask for a swap, a refund, or keep the court of grace? Back then the court of grace were worth almost x3 the price of court of cunning, and now it's twice the price. So for the moment i'm in a nice spot but i've no idea how the price of both cards will evolve. I feel like court of grace could be ok with kaldheim having a focus on angels...

>> No.76507481

>>76507021
Hating gays is literally rebelling against conformity right now brainlet.

>> No.76507532

>>76507306
I'm saying that almost all metal is shit, the lyrics are childish and the "performance" on stage is pathetic.
It's all wanna be crap. Basically boomer cosplaying. Cleanse it with fire.

Hard rock is more metal than metal. Even Marillion is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdhDj8aFzrA

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>>76507532
>Basically boomer cosplaying.
Then you go on to say
>Hard rock is more metal than metal.
Who's the real boomer cosplayer?

>> No.76507673

>>76507481
Being a raging asshole has always been rebelling against conformity. Valuing "rebelling over conformity" in itself is a disease of modern culture. If you think that something is Good or Right or True, and have strong evidence to back it up, than I'll applaud you to stand up for it, even against the rest of the world. But if you just want to rebel for a sake of rebelling, you're a tosser, and should just go kill yourself.

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76507710

>>76507673
>Still missing the point
Nobody said anything about anything being "Good or Right or True," it was simply a point about what is and what isn't raging against the machine, brainlet.

>> No.76507712

>>76507673
based and true logos pilled.
This make the liberal soifags seethe because all they stand for is pseudo deconstructivism.

>> No.76507713

>>76507636
What's "cosplaying" about hard rock?

>> No.76507737

I would just like to know what a Greek tranny that makes mirrors and a black ghostbuster have to do with viking metal.

>> No.76507750

>>76507737
Nothing anon, nothing.

>> No.76507761

>>76507737
Nothing, that's the whole point. The long nose tribe only love confusion and lies, because they serve Satan, that's pretty much it.

>> No.76507788

>>76507737
>a demon, a greek tranny and a niggress enter a viking plane

>> No.76507802

>>76507788
That's actually another thing, why does Kaldheim have both Oko AND Tibalt, who are both sadistic, mischievous Loki analogues? Why both at the same time?

>> No.76507812
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76507812

>>76507673
Biological sex alteration is evil and should be depicted negatively. Simple as.

>> No.76507827

Why is snow a super type but desert isn't?

>> No.76507834

>>76507827
Because there are no planes where deserts play a central theme

>> No.76507869

>>76507802
to have hot, kinky gay sex

>> No.76507879

>>76507869
owo?

>> No.76507889

>>76507869
what about heterosexual sex

>> No.76507935

>>76505088
>Gets buff from spirit aggro
>Can future sight an answer normally unavailable to it that turn
>With Rattlechains it can keep tempo flash speed
Who the fuck would cast it? You hit it with CoCo. Learn the deck

>> No.76507951

>>76507935
Oh boy a 3 mana 2/3 that might draw me cards, this is exactly what I wanted instead of just winning the fucking game and powering up my board.

>> No.76507965

>>76507889
ew.
that one is just for reproduction bro, gross

>> No.76508003
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76508003

>>76507951
You obviously dont know how future sight effects work with flash if you think it is the same as drawing a card. But keep crying it is.

>> No.76508025

>>76506054
>Giving two shits about standard
>Thinking a card being the best in standard has any weight to it when 10 cards are currently banned in it

>> No.76508057

>>76508003
>Heh, in your end step I'll tap all four of my lands to play Collected Company!
>Looks like it's game over for you friend, I hit a Realmwalker and Rattlechains, AND there's a Mausoleum Wanderer on top of my deck!
>Untap, draw the Wanderer, oh there's a land on top now
>S-swing for f-four and p-pass turn, h-heh...
Go get em, tiger.

>> No.76508080

>>76508057
the anon you're responding to is an idiot because that card is trash, but you're a straight up retard because in the case you made you can cast the wanderer before drawing it, since rattlechains gives it flash

>> No.76508234

>>76507834
>Arabian Nights
>Amonkhet
maybe when we get Return to Amonkhet

>> No.76508257
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76508257

what?
a 3 mana creature on curve that becomes bigger very easily and that can do a ugin's -x if you fall behind?
what the fuck?

>> No.76508304

>>76508257
they just keep printing these cards with yugioh textboxes

>> No.76508311

>>76506400
Your values are a marketing gimmick

>> No.76508317

>>76508257
hmm let's see
>no protection
>no keywords
>doesn't draw you cards
garbage, won't even see standard play

>> No.76508342

>>76508317
the worst part about this is that you're right

>> No.76508463

>>76508257
This is going to be dumb in standard and useless in other formats. Pioneer would like it if it wasn’t such a fucked format to begin with.

>> No.76508493

>>76508463
We'll probably see Golgari Adventures with more Great Henge bullshit and it'll play some copies of Ugin because, yeah, why not
Eldraine is such a shit set my god

>> No.76508548

>>76508257
I really like how this interacts with my opponents fetches/baubles, I could see non-Lurrus builds of the rock experimenting with one or two copies of this

>> No.76508580

>>76508080
Ill take being an idiot on card value. Better then not knowing how interaction works.

Green Future Sight card is better then Nebelgast Herald, Shacklegeist, or mainboard Lurrus of the Dream-Den that Pioneer runs. Fight me on this. Its garbo modern tho sure.

>> No.76508595

>>76508257
With Legacy's death, I can't even meme about it going into nic fit anymore

>> No.76508601

>>76508257
>comparing this to Ugin...
Ugin exile permanents that are one or more color, which is basically an asymetrical boardwipe in Tron. This effect is symetrical.
Golgari is also not the greatest combo for a sac deck so clearly the card seems strong but it's not that OP. It's clearly not on the same level as Uro or Omnath.

>> No.76508624

>>76508601
If we are comparing every creature now to Uro and Omnath then this game is fucking lost

>> No.76508667

>>76508624
Bruh people still compare shit to Grissdaddy and Eldrazi titans. Nothing new besides the bar is "ETBs, Draw card, Does thing"

>> No.76508674

>been playing since the 90's
>quit playing sometime around Lorwyn
>picked it back up with Eldraine
>brain-dead spamming of planeswalkers started to sour me on it
>"companion" cards were suddenly auto-include and were somewhat format warping
>quit again
>recently had the itch again

Why is this shit like crack and why do they keep fucking up the game hard enough to make people who've been playing for ages quit?

>> No.76508690

>>76508674
>somewhat format warping
>somewhat
THEY WERE LITERALLY
LITERALLY
90% OF THE META THE WEEKEND AFTER RELEASE
BEFORE THE SET WAS EVEN OUT IN PAPER

>> No.76508706

>>76508674
They keep fucking up the game because investors are keeping the boat afloat.
WotC is no longer interested in keeping old magic fans, they want The Walking Dead audience and to pump the whales. Double revenue by 2023 or bust.
Also
>"companion" cards were suddenly auto-include and were somewhat format warping
They broke every single format they were legal in.

>> No.76508715

>>76508311
The very concept of "values" is a marketing gimmick.

Most moral systems on history were propped up by rich guys so they could do whatever they wanted on the backs of the underclass. The Brahmins, the popes, the pharisees, the reaganites, the mandarins, the USSR, and so on.

>> No.76508723

>>76508690
>>76508706
I'm trying to be reasonable sounding in my criticism for anyone who wasn't on Arena at the time.

>> No.76508735

>>76508723
They were gamebreaking in every single format not just Standard

>> No.76508745

>>76508723
Lurrus got banned in Vintage. Banned in fucking Vintage. That has never been done before for powerlevel concerns.

>> No.76508763

>>76508723
Arena? Didn't know they had Legacy and Vintage on Arena.

>> No.76508782

>>76508745
would it still be broken now that you have to pay 3 extra mana to get it?

>> No.76508803

>>76508735
>>76508745
>>76508763
They were literally designed to be game breaking. They have rules that actively warp the manner in which the game is played. It's not that surprising that they warped every format they were in and it was obviously going to happen.

>> No.76508814

>>76508803
Yeah maybe they should stop sharting out gamebreaking cards like companions and mdfcs

>> No.76508818

>>76508782
One word:
Black lotus.

>> No.76508857

>>76508257
This card wont see play.

>> No.76508863

>>76508814
They won't though. I'm going to guess that the next set, the big viking set, will have another Oko/Companion equivalent that will be game warping. This will of course boost sales of boxes.

>> No.76508867

Should I use my Euro or APAC lands for my 3 mountains in my burn deck?

>> No.76508878

>>76508257
i actually like this card and hope that it will be playable in eternal formats even if it won't

>> No.76508884

>>76508257
>words words words words words words words words words
>won't even see standard play
ha but this goes straight into my faggot EDH wolf counters deck ha lol xD based wotc!

>> No.76508886

>>76508867
Neither, Kaladesh basics.

>> No.76508907

>>76508878
I genuinely think it has a small chance of seeing play just because of the fetches interaction
it's the type of card that you don't really care if it gets answered but when it doesn't, it can be really powerful

>> No.76508932

>>76508907
If it was 2 mana or had flash or something I'd agree but 3 mana is a significant amount in eternal formats to just die to bolt/path/whatever and do stone cold nothing

>> No.76508959

>>76508257
How would this card be different if it was 1UG instead of 1BG?
I'm thinking it'd have to be at least a 5/5 and cantrip

>> No.76508971
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>>76508884
>words words words
i don't think this is actually an example of words words words design. the card has only two effects, it's not possible to have one without the other, and the effects are fairly simple.

>> No.76509009

>>76508932
clearly the real format it belongs in is vintage

>> No.76509031

>>76508971
Your pic related feels like a more organic version of words words words. Also it has flavor
What's the flavor or reasoning behind the wolf? It grows stronger eating dead things? Sure, then why does it explode and get weaker and exile shit randomly? Just feels like they thought of a bunch of words and slapped it on some random art of a wolf and called it a day

>> No.76509089

>>76509031
he eats the dead, and when he has amassed enough power he sacks the realm

thematically the exile is a little out of place sense but he'd be utterly busted if he just destroyed them like BGx cards usually do

>> No.76509121

>>76504500
lmao that greentext every time.

>> No.76509177

also the thing about curves is that while curves matter in standard, the "curve" in eternal formats runs 3/3 for 1, 4/5 for 2, and i'm just guessing at it, but 7/7 for 3

i mean would anyone even play a vanilla 7/7 for GGG

>> No.76509178

>>76508257
>this duel is over Yugi, next turn my blue eyes white bears will be able to reduce your life points to zero. You'll never get through my perfect defense
>not so fast Kaiba! Do you remember last turn when you sacrificed 2 fetchlands
>no it can't be!
>that's right! It placed 2 counters on my Sarulf the Magical King of Eating Realms Dragon
>that may be but it's not enough to get through my monsters
>that's where you are wrong Kaiba! During my upkeep I can choose to remove all counters and when I do I exile each card with the number of cost! and I'll be removing...2 counters!
>2?! That's impossible! All my bears, it can't be!
Just turn the sideboard into the extra deck and pull the bandaid off already

>> No.76509254 [DELETED] 

>>76503196
>OY VEY JUST ACCEPT THAT (((we))) ARE CHANGING YOUR LANGUAGE TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE
No. Maybe youx should blow xer brains out

>> No.76509407

>>76508257
Would be good if the Exile effect was instant speed.

>> No.76509463

>>76507812
>Biological sex alteration is evil
Uh, do you have a better criteria for "evil" than "because I don't like it"?

"Probably harmful", I'll give you that, but the same goes for piercings, taking drugs, smoking, drinking alcohol, eating candy, practicing extreme sports, etc. Yet by modern (i.e. past few centuries) Western ethics, you're generally free to do what you're want as long as you're not harming anybody else; doing things that harm only oneself are not considered "evil" (they may still be banned, "for our own good"). And societies that adopted that ethos have kicked the asses of those who haven't so hard that it's not even funny.

>> No.76509517

>>76509463
>as long as you're not harming anybody else
Living in a culture that tokerates singke parenthood, sex alteration, hormones for kids and faggotry at every turn HARMS children

>> No.76509530

>>76504877
>faggot collects shoes
>pushes for Magic-themed sneakers
Why?

>> No.76509602

>>76509463
Things people do to themselves has a ripple effect to those around them, and can in turn be harmful to children exposed to them.

>> No.76509609

>>76509517
Eh, more children seem to be harmed in a society like, say Egypt. Check out rates of violence against children, or child poverty, and California is far from the top. So liberal norms are probably better for children on aferage: less violence, less poverty, less bullying. Yes, maybe there are cases where dumb parents somehow let their kids get hormone therapy, but I doubt that that is enough to even things out, let alone reverse the balance of harm.

Now, I agree that our current norms are not good for the long-time survival of Western society, but that's something more diffuse and indirect than just "harming children", and the main problem isn't transsexuals, it's just people that don't have kids; LGBT etc. are just a fraction of those. But in the big pictures "didn't have kids because trans", "didn't have kids because focused on career" and "didn't have kids because ugly" amount to the same.

>> No.76509635

>>76509609
California thinks their abuse is healthy, so it isn't treated/reported as abuse.

>> No.76509660

>>76509609
>compare [middle eastern shithole with conservative values] to [modern, but liberal society], therefore tradition bad.

>> No.76509669

>>76509660
Technological inherently causes social changes, read Uncle Ted.

>> No.76509681
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76509681

>>76509463
Yes, actually, it's in the picture I posted. Dharma.

If you don't accept your biological sex you will forever be reincarnated into someone who struggles to accep their nature until you do accept it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5BZ4lf4VZc
ARJUNA MUST FIGHT AND YOU MUST BE A MAN.

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76509684

>Get in the pod.
>Eat the bugs.
>Dilate.

>> No.76509690

If I even have to think about modern day sociopolitical issues while playing a card game about wizards slinging magic at each other then that game has failed

>> No.76509804

>>76509681
What if my dharma is to be a cute trap? What're you gonna do about it?

>> No.76509805

>>76509690
Well, that's an easy enough problem to fix.
Don't think. Buy 3 booster boxes of each set that releases, open them, and put the mythics and rares into your standard and EDH decks.
It's that easy.

>> No.76509809

>>76509669
>Read, "X"
This is always a brainet counterargument. Defend your stance yourself.

>> No.76509831
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76509831

cool deck u got there anon

>> No.76509833

>>76509809
Why would you want to hear an argument from a random person on the internet when you can hear it from it's origin?
Do you also read synopsis of films and books instead of watching them?

>> No.76509841

>>76509690
If you were serious you'd get triggered by all the fantasy feudalism, slavery, and persecution in the game too but it turns out you're just a faggot as well

>> No.76509859

>>76509841
Why would he, again?

>> No.76509871

>>76509690
The western world has failed. Based china is carrying the torch, though.

>> No.76509881

>>76508674
>Why is this shit like crack and why do they keep fucking up the game hard enough to make people who've been playing for ages quit?
>Why is this shit like crack
>Why is this shit like crack
>Why is this shit like crack

>recently had the itch again

>> No.76509920

>>76509609
You need to look at the numbers of "missing" children in developed countries, friend. Study pizzagate.

>> No.76509931

>>76508257
Oh, I didn't realise it said you MAY remove the counters.

It still won't see play. In another Standard this would've been the best card in the format. Now it just feels like a footnote.

>> No.76509933

>>76509804
Makes no sense, that's your wish. If that was your dharma you'd be born a cute woman.

>> No.76509960

>>76509933
No anon, a trap is not a woman, it's a different thing.

>> No.76509973

>>76509690
Exactly. That's how Wizards radicalized me. They pushed on one side and by doing so I went the other way.

>> No.76509997

>>76509973
>radicalized by a children's game
r u ok?

>> No.76510004

>>76509960
>a trap is not a woman
Then be the thing that is not a woman, eg a man.

>> No.76510013

>>76510004
Yeah, that's what a trap is. A man.

>> No.76510039

>>76509997
Low test and low will fags break easily

>> No.76510049

>>76509920
Pizzagate is friggin' retarded, it's up there with "the moon landings were fake", "Bush did 9/11", "communism works", and "vaccines cause autism".

>> No.76510081

>>76503583
>Nanowar
>On tg

My life is fucking complete lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moGca0f9cW8&ab_channel=nanowarVEVO

>> No.76510083
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76510083

>>76509997
Now I am. Fully synthonized with my aryan grandfathers.
>>76510013
No, that's a man that doesn't live like a man.

>> No.76510086

>>76509973
Go outside and form some opinions for yourself.

>> No.76510097

>>76509833
Why would I take any book suggestion you have to offer seriously if you can't even articulate the points made in the book yourself for the sake of the argument at hand?

>> No.76510105

>>76510097
It's not a book, it's an essay.

>> No.76510108 [DELETED] 

>>76510086
If I go outside I might see a black person or a tranny and get mad

>> No.76510112

>>76510083
Still a man, just a man fulfilling a different role.

>> No.76510129

>>76510105
Even worse.

>> No.76510144
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76510144

>>76501002
>mfw open this at prerelease
>everyone in the store gathers round
>”wow anon, what an incredible priv...a..anon, w-what are you doing?!”
>mfw light card on fire
FUCK JANNIES
FUCK TRANNIES
FUCK NU MAGIC

>> No.76510155

>>76510144
>going to prerelease
Cringe and trannypilled.

>> No.76510159

>>76510144
>open this at prerelease
No official events until 2022, buddy.

>> No.76510186

>>76510144
>buying nu-magic product

>> No.76510208

Is /mmg/ the most blackpilled general?

>> No.76510285

>>76510208
currently yes, any more blackpilled and a general will cease to exist

>> No.76510297

>>76501002
>>76501662
in Spanish, "his/her" is not gendered, so they could get away without using any pronouns, though it's obvious they are doing just that, because it sounds kinda retarded repeating the name as in "Niko did this, then Niko did that, and Niko liked it"

>> No.76510299
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>>76510285

>> No.76510304

>>76509997
>children's card game is rife with forced political issues that barely make sense in-universe
>with worlds that are based on our real world because WotC is creatively bankrupted, yet said worlds are turned woke as a marketing gimmick
>it's unreasonable that someone should be turned completely away from this brain-draining horse shit
The children's card game contains liberal politics, it makes sense that as one might be convinced of liberal politics by said card game (doubtful), some may undergo the opposite process (less doubtful, as the politics is paper-thin).

>> No.76510313

>>76510108
Stop pretending to be me.
>>76510086
Why do you assume I havent? Wizards helped me see what I wasn't seeing before.

Today I spoke with a guy who is against guns for the usual dumb reasons "why do you need a gun", "guns lead to violence" and the very same guy who thinks this told me that if a guy heard what I said (I made a joke about a region) he would obviously beat me up. I confronted him and he couldn't see the contradiction between the two logics.

Maybe you hould go out and see how we live in our societies. Weak, unhappy people and physical and spiritual death everywhere. We are unable to survive outside of the safety net around us, we never learned the basic skills of humanity.

>> No.76510323
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>>76510299
>i exist
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

>> No.76510332

>>76510299
rest in piss, sc2

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>>76510304
It's not liberal, it's marxist.

>> No.76510362

>>76510347
>Pat only gets to buy two cards a week and can only buy commons and uncommons.
So then stop making rares and especially mythics that are comically overpowered compared to the rest of the card pool.

>> No.76510392

>>76510362
They've been powering up commons and uncommons though.

>> No.76510395

>>76510049
>>76501801
>>76502804

>> No.76510405

>>76510392
That's not what I asked for.

>> No.76510427

>>76510347
>seeing less women or minorities in entertainment sends a message that they are less important
Anyone who genuinely believes this is retarded and deserves to 41% themselves.
The majority of the complaints about inclusion of women or nonwhites in media is literally because of the politics behind said inclusion, and rarely because the person in question is actually racist or sexist - even when the complainers are, indeed, racist or sexist their complaints rarely have anything to do with their own beliefs.
I don't feel any less important when I see a black or a female in media because I know it's just media, hell I don't even feel any MORE important when I see a white dude, the shit does not matter at all and these fragile fucking privilege-shucksters need to fuck off already.

>Black Panther
>Wonder Woman
Imagine making your argument by citing capeshit, pathetic, I hate this fucking company and I'm glad I haven't bought shit from them in a long, long time.

>> No.76510432

>>76510362
But anon that'd be anti-semitic.

>> No.76510438

>>76510405
Sorry friend, but the age of men is over. The time of FIRE has come.

>> No.76510477

>>76509407
My man, if you could Ugin the board at instant speed that would be busted, even accounting for the fact that you're supposed to remove your opponent's permanents to achieve this (or wait from them to crack fetches). I just noticed, also, that while the effect is symmetrical it doesn't even target the fucking wolf itself. Being forced to do it on upkeep rather than a main phase is lame as shit, but instant speed would be stupid.

>> No.76510498

>>76510347
>Marxist
>Owned by an immense multinational toy corporation, who in turn has 80% of its shares owned by institutional investors
The fuck are you on about? Idpol and diversity is utterly capitalistic. It is about getting people to consent willingly to their atomization, so corporations can develop predictive models for sales and marketing. Intersectionality might have leftist origins, but capitalists have turned into a powerful instrument in an Internet-based world.

>> No.76510509

>>76510347
>capitalist corporation appealing to flavor-of-the-month social issues in order to maximize profits by marketing to the woke urban liberal consoomer demographic
>marxist

>> No.76510547

>>76502919

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akG2cFldO6I&list=RDakG2cFldO6I&start_radio=1

>> No.76510568

>>76510498
>>76510509
Cultural marxism, retards. Educate yourselves.

>> No.76510575

>>76507788
Why did you repeat demon thrice.

>> No.76510629

>>76510568
Explain cultural Marxism to me.

>> No.76510713
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How does it look for a budget Rakdos Aggro pile? I know the manabase is hardly good in this but I'm a little bit limited by my wallet.

//Main
4 Abbot of Keral Keep
4 Canyon Slough
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Skelemental
4 Magmatic Channeler
4 Mishra's Bauble
4 Monastery Swiftspear
6 Mountain
4 Night's Whisper
4 Smoldering Marsh
4 Swamp
2 Unearth

//Sideboard
2 Abrade
2 Angrath's Rampage
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Feed the Swarm
2 Hazoret the Fervent
2 Heartless Act
3 Soul-Guide Lantern

>> No.76510728

>>76509178
>Just turn the sideboard into the extra deck and pull the bandaid off already

That would make the game consistent without having to jump trough hoops and we all know Magic players hate simple logical mechanics and love their draw phases.

>> No.76510749

>>76510713
where's the shit like manamorphose to go bigger with prowess and fill the graveyard faster? you could just play that over night's whisper. why do you have 8 forms of card draw and a mana curve that tops at 3 but 22 lands? why do you have taplands in an aggro deck? wtf are you doing, loser?

>> No.76510776
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76510776

Why doesn’t wotc ask Varg to rep their new cards??

>> No.76510790

>>76510629
You can read it in that picture,

>> No.76510801
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76510801

Why is wizards trying to turn Goblins into a combo deck? I just want to smack people with 30 goblin tokens, not play splinter twin + birthing pod

>> No.76510829

>>76510713
>cycling lands
please don't do this
I know it works with your check lands, but please don't.
At this point you would probably be better off going with a mono-red prowess until you can get better lands.

>> No.76510858
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>>76510801
>I just want to smack people with 30 goblin tokens
sounds like combo to me

>> No.76510862

>>76510790
No, explain it to me. All I see in that picture is a corporate drone kissing Twitter ass.

>> No.76510899

>>76501002
Can you run whatever that is in a suicide deck?

>> No.76510917

>>76510899
The trannoid's powers are sealing things in mirrors but they can break out if they want to. So the abilities will be blinking/phasing which are the antithesis of sac decks.

>> No.76510924

>>76510858
>xe doesn't know the joys of end-step vial in krenko with a lord out and quadrupling your board

>> No.76510925

>>76510498
>>76510509
>>76510629
Not him but communists and marxists are just neoliberal capitalists with a differen name. Every real communist country on the planet is the most exaggerated example of "capitalist dystopia" where people are poor and starving while a ruling class of people get to gouge themselves and live in luxury.

Same happens in the rest of the world, marxists habe changed their ways and instead of trying to revolt and bring the system down, they've infiltrated the current system and shaped it more to their liking, of course now that many of them are in positions of power they have few incentives to give up their privileges so instead they deflect to the middle class, who has historically been the enemy of tyranny and corruption.

>> No.76510933

>>76510713
Looks fun. Fix the land base and get rid of those Night’s Whispers and enjoy

>> No.76510957

>>76510925
At this point you're just using words without regard for their actual definition.

>> No.76510972

>>76510925
Finally, a good fucking post
ON THE WRONG FUCKING BOARD
It's not your fault and I hope the tranny janny who apparently only moderates /mmg/ and no other thread on /tg/ hits you for this

>> No.76511040

>>76510917
Lame

>> No.76511048

>>76511040
Yes, everything about this character is extremely, painfully lame and uncool.

>> No.76511109

>>76510957
Marxists started out only caring about class conflict but just like every other ideological movement in history it tried to appeal to minorities in order to get a foothold in society, mostly women and LGBT people, in the US they made great use of the pre-existing race conflicts since a lot of blacks are lower class, but now that they control the system they individually have no incentive to help the working class who'd resist their bullshit, so instead they fuel conflict based on race and sexuality, and of course they focus their attack on straight conservative whites because they're the biggest demographic in the countries they control (not that they haven't also attacked and undermined conservative non-whites and LGBT people who resist them). They are also using the US's cultural heremony in the world to try and push these ideas to other places, that way they extend their power.

>>76510972
I'll stop now, but I still wanted to chime in, this general is 20% game talk and 80% /pol/ and people complaining about WotC as a whole.

>> No.76511597

>>76511109
I actually meant to say I hope the tranny DOESN'T hit you for this, this is what I get for using so many words to say so little.
You're spot-on with your analysis though.

>> No.76511715

>look at new set's spoilers
>it's all multicolor legendaries and other EDH bait

It's all so tiresome. Can't wait to see the EDH card that breaks Modern & Legacy. I already sold out of those formats due to FIRE, but I would like some interesting designs that I can proxy for my cube

>> No.76511746

>>76511715
dude legacy is a flaming shitfest because of edh trash already
see assbreacher, oppo agent, court of cunny

>> No.76511751

>>76511715
>proxy for my cube
based

>> No.76512054

>>76512049

>>76512049

>>76512049

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