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CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES:
>Current meta, complete with deck list
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
http://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share cubes
https://www.cubetutor.com/
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://gatherer.wizards.com/
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
Your local chinaman (we're still researching this one)
Your printer + bulk cards + sleeves can also do the trick
>Library of in-demand alters
https://mega.nz/folder/DWBRwIpK#CLilq5z0hPY6iDfgsCu3sQ

>Previous
>>76431720

TQ: What keyword do you want to see more of?

>> No.76471143
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Fuck mtg

>> No.76471150

>>76471143
VERY based.

>> No.76471173
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>TQ: What keyword do you want to see more of?

Always liked the deathtouch/first strike combo to create Death Strike

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I would gladly accept the tradeoff of every character in MTG being a black tranny if it meant that /pol/ would leave the game forever.

>> No.76471218
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>been getting back into magic
>trying to figure out deck
>surprised friend with some AoS shit to get him playing with the group
>friend surprises me last night with a red/white deck with an angel/knight theme
>literally perfect, couldn’t have built something I wanted this much
>spent like 75 dollars on 4 cards alone and got me a nice case
I love Christmas

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>>76471218
>angel/knight theme
Your friend sounds like a based white Chad

>> No.76471246 [DELETED] 

>>76471181

But every character in MTG is already a black tranny.

>> No.76471265 [DELETED] 

>>76471246
I'm glad my bro Gideon didn't live to see this day.

>> No.76471267

>>76471109
>TQ: What keyword do you want to see more of?

None.
I like Madness and Flashback but I don't want them used because I literally cannot imagine WotC designing even one good card. I don't believe that company's capapble of it anymore. I would rather they stop doing anything until they go bankrupt.

>> No.76471269 [DELETED] 

>>76471181
just wait until you realize that /pol/ were the black trannies all along

>> No.76471348

>>76471218
Based

>> No.76471390
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Be honest, how jealous are y'all?

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Friendly reminder that anybody mentioning /pol/ is trying to bait you big time, ignore.
>friendly, daily and threadly reminder that wotc is de facto printing an illegal cryptocurrency where prices are kept artificially inflated due to artificial scarcity and insider trading that gets distributed through lottery tickets and lootboxes and that they spend, all costs included, 2 cents per card to print them

>> No.76471413

>>76471390
That'll be the collection of a huge MCM seller or something along those lines.

>> No.76471418

>>76471390
Those better not be commons.

>> No.76471424

>>76471390
>all of pioneer on a single shelf
neat

>> No.76471452

>>76471143
Kill me, Lurrus

>> No.76471489

>>76471390
There are funkos, so I'm glad that's not my room

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>>76471218
Based friend and based anon, who are your favorite angels, my friend?

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>>76471633
That one is really cool, my favorite up until last night was probably Thune. In the deck we’re Gisela of the Goldnight, Anya Merciless Angel, and Akroma. Akroma’s is so neat, I had never seen her before.

>> No.76471673

Making an old bordered cube and I'm not sure about what's the best tinker target.

>> No.76471684
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Two years back I got myself a Rat colony deck and then I stopped playing after a while. Now one of my friends got into mtg and wants to play me. He has a modified Cavalcade Charge aggro deck, so I added some more recent cards that weren't out yet two years ago.
Anything I should still add or remove?
It seems to me like I have quite a lot of lands, but at the same time I get too few more often than too many.

>> No.76471700

>>76471390
>Several shelves of FIRE garbage
>Barely any actually good sets
>Funko pops
I have no jealousy. Nu-magic is made for people like you, not people like me.

>> No.76471721

>>76471673
Memory Jar?

>> No.76471722

>>76471684
you do not deserve help because you are playing a companion

>> No.76471748

>>76471722
Actually not playing it, because I don't plan to spend that much money on a card, but I put it there because technically it does fit the deck. Same with the dual lands, which I guess will just be islands

>> No.76471752

>>76471670
Nice, all very good choices. Personally my favorite is Avacyn, but those are also top tier waifus, have fun with the deck my man!

>> No.76471828

>>76471218
wtf I just got done making a red/white angel/knight equip deck

>> No.76471848

>>76471828
Mmg is truly the angelchads haven. What format is it for? Just casual fun stuff?

>> No.76471862

>>76471848
its standard and only cost me 11$ to make through tcg player also I guess its more warrior/angel themed and its pretty good as an aggro deck

>> No.76471879

>>76471828
>>76471752
Cheers, gentlemen

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>>76471879
I think you dropped this

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>>76471879
Cheers my man.

>> No.76471974

>>76471390
actually a strong -7
spending this much on a childrens entertainment disgusts me, and I own around $150 worth of cards (foil commons mainly, because pauper was fun). I get my books from libraries, games from Epic Store (just finished PoE, started Tyranny) and feel like looking at this makes me want to sell all out and do something productive

>> No.76471976

Guys I have a confession to make
I only play tribal
I dont know why I do it but magic just doesnt feel right unless Im playing some form of tribal or theme'd deck

>> No.76471987

>>76471976
Based.

>> No.76471997

>>76471976
You're playing the game the correct way. Synergies should be prioritized over good stuff.

>> No.76472041

>>76471976
That's exactly what the game was supposed to make you feel. Stay true, stay based

>> No.76472152

>>76471390
I feel pity, not jealousy.

>> No.76472212

>TQ: What keyword do you want to see more of?
Morbid? That's really more an ability word, but I'd rather see more of it. Specifically key words? Phasing honestly.

>> No.76472243

>>76471390
I'm jealous of your organization, and space you have available. But I'm able to fit a whole column of your shelves into one of those boxes. You're not just hoarding commons are you anon? I'm certainly not jealous of the fact that you keep a metric ton of kindling taking up that much space.

>> No.76472251

>>76471997
Delver, Daze, Wasteland, and Lightning Bolt all synergise though.

>> No.76472433

Jund is heavy on synergy.
Wrenn recurs Barren Moor and Nurturing Peatland.
Bloodbraid Elf benefits because Jund has most of the good <4 cmc cards.
Wrenn turns Liliana's +1 into "your opponent discards a card"
Fetch Thoughtseize turns Tarmogoyf into a 2/3+ right off the bat
Kolaghan's Command synergizes extremely well with Bloodbraid Elf in the graveyard.

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>>76471390
Please, show me more!

>> No.76472523

>>76471109
>TQ: What keyword do you want to see more of?
Suspend, split second, flash
And preferably not just in blue

>> No.76472667

>>76471109
>TQ
Emerge. It's card disadvantage, but it's a cool way of ramping into big creatures or tempoing out players. Plus its one of the few ways I can think of making Simic interesting and flavorful.

I would also like to see Traps, but have it be a cost reduction per "violation" rather than having exact effects with a set lower cost. Maybe also allow non-Instant Traps like ambush creatures or flashable aura curses.

>> No.76472707

>>76471390
> funko pops
Whats it like, living with a shell

>> No.76472739
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>>76472667
Emerge is pretty awful tempo, senpai. Like, literally nobody who plays tempo decks has considered that card. You want your cards to be cheap and trade up. A one mana Delver might deal 6 damage, nice. A one mana Spell Pierce might snip off a three mana planeswalker. Tapping stuff down can work but like, my dude that creature is not cheap.

>> No.76472836

>>76472667
Emerge is also underrated as a sac outlet

>> No.76472906

>>76471684
I would buy Thrumming Stones for your deck, or at least keep an eye out for a new reprint of them.

>> No.76472982

>>76471109
Double strike is my favorite keyword, but I could settle for more Cipher.

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>>76471390
>I love funkopops!
>also fuck Blue, counterspells are not real magic

>> No.76473072

>>76471390
I feel bad for those cards baking in the sun. Enjoy those pringles if those boxes are packed full.

>> No.76473102

>>76471684
you could cut some lands for more rats or removal. you curve out at 3. Maybe run some cantrips, counters, or card draw and cut 2-3 lands.

>> No.76473107

>>76471390
Why is Zen Rising sorted before Ikoria? You've triggered my autism.

>> No.76473166

>>76473107
oh shit you're right, I didn't catch that

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>>76471173
I like double deathstrike trample

>> No.76473280

mono black is just as cringe as blue get stop pretending "oops all removal" hoping you draw your win condition is anything but faggotshit

>> No.76473286

>>76473107
Ikoria comes first because it's the best set in the past 15-20 years of magic.

>> No.76473321

>>76473270
I remember hearing a GP story about this card. It was something along the lines of:

>"Okay, I'm going to cast Soulflayer exiling these dudes so I get these abilities."
>"Wait I want to respond with Scooze to eat some of them."
>"You can't it's a cost."

And an immediate scoop. Fucking glorious.

>> No.76473355

>>76473321
This makes me happy, but it's hard playing such a card in modern. I did for a long time though

>> No.76473456

>brooo what if we made white gain life then made it so that the enemy loses when you gain life
fuck this faggot shit

>> No.76473468

>>76471109
>Op Pic

I wonder if people who taken black board power 9 or duals and burned/brunt/destroyed them actually regret their actions?
I know there was a youtube video 10+ years ago of a guy who bought a presumably real Lotus when it was only 1k ish and burned it in a parking lot. Wonder if he's facepalming for not buying a small house now.
Even that "box" of revived duals. When they were only going for $75 a piece? I probably wouldn't have blinked at making a meme box of them. Now that they are pushing 250-500 each? If I was forced to have to get rid of my duals I'd probably prefer to buy a new TV over destroying them.

>> No.76473484

>>76473456
back to /mtgag/ with you

>> No.76473497

>>76473484
wtf is mt. gag some kind of faggot tourist spot?

>> No.76473515

>>76473497
yes, perfect for retarded faggots like yourself

>> No.76473707

>>76473468
The dual lands aren't "worth" anything more than what you paid for them. It's just paper man.

>> No.76473746

>>76473707
So is money. All it takes is another person to agree on perceived value. Many people are willing to pay 400 for a card just because you arent.

>> No.76473808

>>76473746
My point is, if I paid pennies for an alpha dual in 1994 I'm not losing anything if I make a deckbox out of it. It's not like someone came and took a couple hundred bucks out of my wallet. If you never sell then the value is $0.

>> No.76473869

>>76473102
Yeah, I started with like 20 lands and every time I found that I needed more. I think it's because the deck wants to go fast and needs to have 4 lands to get to it's win condition. Ideally on turn 4 I drop two rat colonies and on turn five a Tetsuko to go in for lethal. It's a very one dimensional deck desu.
Some extra 1 costs would probably be best to get some extra value out of turn one and three. I used Opt for the longest of time, but now that I have Piper of the Swarm I don't need to necessarily search my deck for Tetsuko.

>> No.76473873

>>76473808
I think you might be retarded, anon. I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this.

>> No.76473902

>>76473808
So is a $100 bill if you never choose to spend it.

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>>76473902
This is correct. In fact this is the entire premise behind collectable currency printings. You give the government X amount of money for some currency which you will presumably not spend it's like you just paid them money for nothing.

Saying an alpha dual is worth $100 presupposes that the only thing it can be used for is selling, but it's actually a game piece. You can play a card game with it or make deck boxes out of it or paper you walls with it or use it as a coaster or wipe your ass with it or burn it or do whatever you want. If you paid $0.01 for it then whatever you do with it is worth exactly that much, because that's ultimately what its purpose was. This is why "investors" will always be BTFO, because the value of the cards doesn't come from their collectability. No one will give you $100 for an alpha basic land. The only reason duals are as expensive as they are is because people need them in order to play Leg--... Commander. For that all you need is a piece of paper and whether its a real alpha dual or an impossible to detect chinese fake doesn't matter.

>> No.76474127

>>76474031
Presuppose this dick, nigga hahahahahahahahaha

>> No.76474151

>>76474127
GOT EEM

>> No.76474399

>>76471143
fpbp

>> No.76474478 [DELETED] 

>>76471181
>it is better to destroy what you love than to let the people that care about it be alone
This is what your brain looks like on dilation.

>> No.76474572

>>76471673
Ensnaring Bridge for control decks
Combo pieces (ashnod altar, etc)
Metalworker for artifact decks

>> No.76474642

>>76471390
Well organized/10

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>>76471109
From /edh/
>>76472725 (OP) #
Something ridiculous is happening. You guys aren’t going to fucking believe this. If it didn’t come from a source I trust, plus the TWD, DnD, and not-Harry Potter shit we’ve gotten, I wouldn’t believe this either.
I have zero clue why they chose to do this as it destroys the lore in a bunch of ways, but we are getting a crossover with Sanderson’s Cosmere. Get ready

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Any non-schizos want to drop any whitepills?
Will WotC be punished?
Will romany happen?

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>finish foiling deck
>no one to play with
>tfw

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>> No.76475208

>>76475077
for as shit as these lands are, I prefer them a lot compared with the spell/land shit
let's hope that wotc realised how much of a mistake they were and never prints another

>> No.76475368

>>76475208
>let's hope that wotc realised how much of a mistake they were and never prints another
lel, they are confirmed to be included in the next 2 sets at least anon

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>>76475208
Anon, WOTC doesn't consider anything they do to be mistakes anymore. Look at all of the recent B&R posts - none of them have any semblance of regret or apology, even after Companions broke everything. Compare these to earlier B&Rs like the Skullclamp one, and you'll see how there's no hint of self-reflection anymore. Maro even just posted on his Tumblr about how 2020 was Magic's best year ever.

>> No.76475396

>>76474644
That's really interesting.
Not mad, at least it keeps the faith of fantasy novel nerds and not sjw twitter cucks.

>> No.76475400

>>76475387
Forgot to mention that Maro also considers WAR to be one of the best Magic sets ever made

>> No.76475605

Does anybody even care anymore?
They have fucked up this game so much, so fast, that whatever I felt or may have felt is just gone now.

>> No.76475682

>>76475605
I care, but only to laugh and watch it all burn. I managed to force my enthusiasm through Ikoria, but it all became too much. It's just not for us anymore.

>> No.76475713

>>76475605
I care when they release interesting designs that I can proxy for my cube. Other than that, I'm just here for catharsis as the game slowly dies. Already sold out of all my non-proxied Modern and Legacy decks.

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why do they love edh cards so much
this could've easily costed less but only exiled 3 or 2 cards

>> No.76475755

>>76475726
HAHA! BATTLE OF THE BARDS IS A THING I RECOGNIZE! I GET THE REFERENCE! EPIC LAFF

>> No.76475777

>>76475726
This will go great in my Dumpersnout, Scourge of Phimosis deck! Glad to see Wizards fixing the color pie by giving every color card draw :>)

>> No.76475794

>>76474031
Collectability absolutely affects the price of alpha cards. A near mint Alpha Island is worth about 50-80 which honestly is close enough to 100 for your statement to be rendered false. People buy alpha land are absolutely doing it for collectabilty and aesthetic choices which a knockoff might resemble but not actually match.

>> No.76475803

>>76475726
Unironicly good in a feather deck.

>> No.76475898

>>76475726
>>76475803
It also goes well with the new boros commander.

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>>76472522
Never 5get

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how true is this image?

>> No.76476002

>>76475726
So are Sagas a decideous mechanic now?

>> No.76476019

>>76471109
>>76473468
Hey, someone saved my pics. That belongs to a friend of mine who is a chemical coordinator at my city's local hospital. I'll say he makes more than enough money that he doesn't have to worry about a thing. He had a stack of dual lands he got from working at one of our local game shops back in the early 2000s - he and his brother were paid in store credit, so they always blew it all on cards. He also owns two houses, to his credit.

>> No.76476045

>>76476002
Probably. They're good design space, especially for enchantments now that colored artifacts are more common.

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>>76475067
>being this much of a paypig
You deserve exactly what you get.

>> No.76476079

>>76475983
EDH not so much in the comfy bunker. They are still subject to the same arms race power creep acceleration that all the constructed formats are. Cube is very much insulated from all this shit since only a supreme cum drinker would care if anything was proxied in a format where their cards are loaned to them for the session.

>> No.76476145

>>76476079
EDH used to be in the comfy bunker before jotc started pumping them for their sweet sweet tranny dollarydoos. Nowadays they're suffering like everybody else. You're dead on about cube, though, and it's an instant "get the fuck out of my house" if anyone playing cube complains abour proxies.

>> No.76476158

>>76475983
Nowadays everyone on the surface is dead and the WotC pepe is chopping down the safety bunker door The Shining style.

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>>76476158
please tell me how one chops down a vault door

>> No.76476296

>>76476251
It looked like a wooden door in the image if you perceived the No Entry sign as posted on the door. I guess you could blowtorch this one out.

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>> No.76476342

>>76476251
You send in a rat.

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Legacy is so awful now...

>> No.76476463

>>76476422
it will only get worse

>> No.76476547

>>76476422
What are you talking about, anon? All the big Legacy personalities just posted an article on MTGGoldfish about how not only is Legacy more fun and healthy than it's been in a long time, but how 2020 cards actually IMPROVED the format!

>> No.76476627

>>76476342
Basado ratto chado

>> No.76476653

Wasn't sure where else to ask this, so I'll ask here. I stopped playing mtg a few years back and have now decided to sell off my collection, was wondering if there is some sort of common store front for selling cards? I have quite a few and wanted to know the easiest/best way to sell them off.

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>>76476653
Facebook is the fastest but literally nothing is selling right now because everybody else is doing the same thing. Should have sold earlier, now your cardboard is worthless ;p

>> No.76476731

>>76476711
you know prices will shoot back up once lgses open, right?

>> No.76476784

>>76476653
Do you have time to sort? Your options are:
a) Sell them individually on ebay/tcgplayer.
b) Trade them in at a LGS. Some stores buy in cash, others only offer store credit.
c) Buylist them on channelfireball/Card Kingdom
d) Create bulk lots on eBay, sprinkle some cards that are somewhat choice in front of them (like a couple of lightning bolts or a fatal push) and sell away.
Do you not have time to sort?
a) craigslist can be decent if you go to a public place to sell them. Expect lowball offers though.
b) Card Conduit takes unsorted lots and sorts them for a fee. Anything lower than $.03 you will have to pay for unless you donate anything lower than $.03 cents. It's probably the fastest easiest way to get rid of bulk.

Hope this helps a bit.

>> No.76476829

>>76476784
also Mercari has been good for selling bulk lots

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76476889

>>76471976
Oh yeah? How does this pic make you feel?

>> No.76477093

>>76476731
>doubt

They've already announced a reprint of fetches this year, which only maintained their value because of the scarcity of their availability despite being so in demand. The 2020 reprint cycle raped the overall value of my collection, not as bad as the UginBro but enough to a point where I have this inhibilitating dread about even buying singles from my lgs or building new decks.

>> No.76477101

>>76476889
good because now Im going to use it in my mono green deck

>> No.76477164
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>>76477093
I personally feel that if you wanted a return investment on MTG this was the last year to do it. Even with collector tcg being getting limelight on twitch and youtube; no one is opening Magic the Gathering, or atleast not without an advertising deal.

>> No.76477188

>>76477101
BASED, don't forget to add Ishkanah and Spider Spawning

>> No.76477208

>he doesn’t just ship his cardboard to cardkingdom in exchange for fancier cardboard that will retain demand among enfranchised players

>> No.76477225 [SPOILER] 
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reminder that better tcgs exxist.

>> No.76477497
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>Anons are all about how Modern is dead and prices are going down into oblivion
>Well maybe it's time to jump into Modern then
>Fucking Kroxa pile (tier 4 deck) costs $800-1000

>> No.76477653

>>76477497
>he doesnt proxy every card over 2$

>> No.76477783

>>76476731
>he thinks the lockdowns are temporary
>he doesn't know about the pods
>he doesn't know about the bugs
LOL

>> No.76477870

>>76475368
fuck.

>> No.76477877
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76477877

here's your birthing pod :^)

>> No.76477916

>>76477877
what the fuck

>> No.76477956

>>76477877
Badding pod

>> No.76477960

>>76477877
>that shares a creature type
I want to know which retard over at wotc thought that putting a tribal pod in a tribal set was a good idea, they're going hard on their milking of what's left of mtg

>> No.76477981

>>76477877
So, what tribal deck can abuse this the most?

>> No.76477998
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>>76477981
probably the new elf tribal precon they are releasing

>> No.76478034

Why do they keep shitting out such awful Planeswalkers?
Does anyone remember Calix?

>> No.76478096

>>76477981
Time to get some Nissa's for recursion?

>> No.76478098

>>76478034
I remember his art as a statue, otherwise no

>> No.76478123

>>76478098
He literally autismed himself into sparking

>> No.76478195

>>76476784
I'm in the process of organizing them, sort of a slow burn project, so I'm not too worried about the price being low right now. I'll definitely check these out, thanks a bunch.

>> No.76478240

>>76477960
Goblins? Works like a combo deck already no?

Nightmares could be interesting. But then again, any good payoffs? The widest use might be like gay stuff like humongs or spirits.

>> No.76478247
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Magic has really been taking a toll on the Professor, do you guys think he'll be alright?

>> No.76478257

>>76478247
Hopefully not.

>> No.76478293

>>76478123
That's actually a thing in real life though

>> No.76478445

>>76477981
Elementals seems like a good bet. The whole game plan is to puke out 5,000 elementals that all ramp or draw a card on ETB. Tutoring into nuOmnath is probably something that will happen in Modern / Pioneer

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>steal opponent's card with thought knot seer
>sac thought knot seer to get an emrakul
Bros... Eldrazi Tron is back.

>> No.76478620

>>76471181
You fail to understand, you want want, no, NEED them both to fuck off. They are two sides of the same coin. As long as one exists, so will try other.

>> No.76478664

>>76478034
for people to relate. they literally said that in a recent article

>> No.76478781

>>76478562
>cmc+1

>> No.76478867

>>76478781
The fuck? Why would anyone play with such a restrictive card? At least make the activation instant speed.

>> No.76478914

>>76478867
Well, after 2019/20 I could do with a few years where they only print unplayable garbage instead of destroying eternal formats every set.

>> No.76478935

>>76478247
what, did he have another depressing take on something we know all too well ?

>> No.76479080 [DELETED] 
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76479080

Ahem...ahem...
I have an announcement to make. I have come here to pronounce /mmg/ the least homosexual general on the site. On a scale of 1-/lolg/, 1 being the least homosexual and /lolg/ being the most, this is easily a 1. That is all.

>> No.76479113

>>76478867
Have you heard of Birthing Pod?

>> No.76479463

>>76478247
>professor swallows a single crumb of the forbidden knowledge /mmg/ has amassed
>is immediately reduced to a broken, alcoholic mess
>he's now taking up the bottle even more than that time that stupid bitch from one of his classes opened her cunt mouth and accused him of assault even though she totally wanted it and he was blitzed too anyway

>> No.76479883

>>76471390
Not at all. Fuck sorting that in the first place, takes up way too much space, funkos, list goes on.

>> No.76480008

>>76471390
Based.

>> No.76480031

>>76475983
Not very because you can just proxy

>> No.76480046

>>76478247
I like TCC, fuck the haters. He is a total social normie faggot, but I do enjoy his reviews and content and podcasts.

>> No.76480194

>>76480031
Stop calling them proxies and call them what they really are: Counterfeits.

>> No.76480280

>>76480194
Yeah, those.

>> No.76480411

>download cockatrice like other anons recommended
>there's actually tons of people playing
>easy to find games
Huh, thanks /mmg/.

>> No.76480439

the primary reason i'm on xmage is not for the rules but because i think cockatrice is ugly as sin

>> No.76480542

>>76471684
Dead weight over disfigure as you can recur it with lurrus

>> No.76480586

>download cockatrice like other anons recommended
>computer is immediately hacked
>all my finances and even my identity is stolen
thanks /mmg/

>> No.76480672

>>76480046
He is a cool dude who's genuinely doing what he thinks is best for the community, but his recent stunts with """""representation""""" on his channel didn't win him /mmg/'s favor

>> No.76480717

>download cockatrice like other anons recommended
>play a ton of games without spending anything
>Maro dronestrikes my house for selling out of paper
thanks /mmg/ ?

>> No.76480839 [DELETED] 

>>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46891441

Reminder that /mmg/ was always full of shitposting.

>> No.76481210 [DELETED] 

>>76479080
>sucking /mmg/'s cock
Its awkward, but it still feels good.
Proceed.

>> No.76481223 [DELETED] 

>>76479080
how do you know /lolg/ is the most homosexual?

>> No.76481236 [DELETED] 

>>76481223
Because I play LoL sometimes and so made the mistake of viewing the thread a few times. Go to /vg/ right now and look at it, I dare you. >>317399892

>> No.76481248

I have a confession to make: I bought every single secret lair so far

>> No.76481250 [DELETED] 

>>76481236
I know I used to browse it too when I actually played lol but if you think its the gayest general on /vg/ you are greatly mistaken

>> No.76481269 [DELETED] 

>>76481250
It's easily gayer than /gw2g/ and /wowg/. Maybe the FFXIV general is a contender, but /lolg/ is still by far the most faggiest.

>> No.76481287 [DELETED] 

>>76481269
go check out monster hunter general literally no one talks about the game there and instead its a legitimate tranny territorial feud between two discord groups

>> No.76481583

>>76481248
... why

>> No.76481628 [DELETED] 

>>76481269
Dunno if it's still around, but there was some furry gotcha general that sprung up on /vg/. Nobody even discussed the game, just posted furry porn thread after thread, but since it was from characters in the game I guess it was technically on topic.
Man, those threads were beyond gay.

>> No.76481711

>>76476547

man, the thing is literally NO ONE is saying that any constructed format is any good. I think after the latest round of bannings, some content creators have said standard is fun, but i have yet to see anyone have much good to say about formats in which uro is still legal.

>> No.76481752

>>76481711
How is standard fun when there is always some meta/top 3 decks? at least with constructed you get some oddball strange decks that are fun. then again, I'm not playing competitively.

>> No.76481899

>>76481752

i do not play standard either, has been a total bullshit format for years now, but especially since War of the spark. If i could afford legacy, i still wouldn't bother because of oko and astrolabe. currently getting back into modern after the astrolabe ban earlier this year. The meta is actually quite diverse. Would like both FOTD and Uro banned tho desu (and maybe t3feri and dryad if i'm just being hopeful)

>> No.76481992 [DELETED] 

>>76480839
>Modern is dead
It finally came true

>> No.76482588
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if i want to build legacy sharkstill, what's a good alternative to moat? humility is no good since it would also affect my shark tokens, island sanctuary is okay but wouldn't protect me until two opponent turns later, magus of the moat is a creature so it's no good
is there anything, or should i fire up the chinaman hotline?

actually now that i think about it... maybe solitary confinement is perfect. would even affect marit lage tokens, while letting me discard enchantments to the yard for another replenish later. Hmmmm.....

>> No.76482658

>>76482588
Rest in Peace/Energy Field

>> No.76482670

>>76482658

good idea too, thanks

>> No.76483238

>>76477225
Weiss Schwarz is that way buddy

>> No.76483383

>>76477877
this will somehow break standard

>> No.76483474

Is wizards still ruining everything with FIRE design?

>> No.76483548

>>76475794
A near mint Alpha Island might go for 50-80, but one thats sitting on the line between lightly played and heavily played is going for about $20. If you've got a bunch of them with other crap condition old basics and you price them out at $15 people will buy them without a second thought. At the price point, even people who would never buy high end cards might pop for them. I had a guy buy me out once, a 200 card shitty white cardboard deck box with about 150 Alpha lands in it. We haggled for awhile and he ended up paying $2100 for the lot and acting like he was doing me a favor.

He didn't even break out the loupe.

>> No.76483588

>>76471997
But The Hive can have both.

>> No.76484485
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>tfw the fellas at fnm noticed I'm still running 4 Bolts and are now making me wear a mask that says "Bolt Dolt"

>> No.76484694

>>76484485
Anon, you don't have "fellas at fnm"
I'm glad you're still able to dream, though. Never give that up.

>> No.76484793

>>76480194
Wow there lad, you think cardboard i worth money after you bought it? Now that's a hot take. Don't tell wizards you called their worthhless cardboard a currency now ;)

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>>76484485
This reads like a deviantart-tier fanfiction

>> No.76485038

>game is an unplayable mess because the nuggers at R&D dont playtest new sets at all
>next set has a literal trannywalker in it
>nowhere to play the game because of kung flu
>still bought $100 worth of singles the other week for a format I haven't played in almost a year

>> No.76485077

>>76483474
Fuck It, Ruin Everything? Yeah basically

>> No.76485128

>>76485038

>still bought $100 worth of singles the other week for a format I haven't played in almost a year

i know that feel, my man
i'm over here buying beautiful old foils like my life depends on it

>> No.76485172

>>76476079
>>76476145
this. edh hasn't really been comfy since wotc realized it existed and figured they could monetize it. you're probably talking 10+ years ago at this point.

>> No.76485195

>>76480194
stop calling it Print-and-Play and call it what it really is: the only correct answer

>> No.76485210

The saddest thing of all is that bootleg Magic cards are much higher quality than real ones nowadays.

>> No.76485216

>>76485128
Before Xi Jinping decided to coof on everything and shut down FNM, I bought Living End. I have no interest in playing the deck actually, but I like collecting decks. MtG is still a very good game and I love playing, but I'm so fucking sick and pissed off with WotC being fucking retarded. I'm looking to buy in to Blue Moon and Kiki Chord next, after that I'll have like 9(?) Modern decks and I can just play with myself in my Basement while I wait for the Government to knock on my door and confiscate all my things because private property is illegal now.

>> No.76485474

>>76471390
Not at all because you're probably an obese loser with no life prospects who jerks off to cartoon characters.

>> No.76485484

>>76481248
are you a tranny?

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>>76485474
>who jerks off to cartoon characters
You say that like it's a bad thing

>> No.76485519 [DELETED] 

>>76485216
>Got into magic after ravnica allegiance
>Bought some starter decks for myself and couple of friends (none kept with it, we just played couple of games one afternoon)
>Missed the fun guild based prerelease experience
>Bought prodzct and played arena badly until theros
>Attended my first prerelease and got 0/5 because the only thing i knew about draft was the paper the box came from.
>The people there were super kind and helpful though helped me fix my deck for my last match.
>Was too autistic to return to FNM because i didnt know how to brew decks well and didnt want to embarass myself with netdecks or bad brews
>Ikoria came around and the coof hit my country, only thing i do now is cracking some packs and playing arena/autistically researching ways to improve
>Got pretty decent at multiple formats, even got into mtgo and did pretty good there too.
>Bought a deece modern deck and have 4 standard t1-2 decks ready to go (only one is a netdeck)

Fuck i missed a lot in my younger years and i want to go to an fnm once before i die...

>> No.76485555

>>76485216
Got into magic after ravnica allegiance
>Bought some starter decks for myself and couple of friends (none kept with it, we just played couple of games one afternoon)
>Missed the fun guild based prerelease experience
>Bought product and played arena badly until theros
>Attended my first prerelease and got 0/5 because the only thing i knew about sealed was from the paper which came in the pack.
>The people there were super kind and helpful though, even helped me fix my deck for my last match.
>Was too autistic to return to FNM because i didn't want to embarass myself with netdecks or bad brews
>Ikoria came around and the coof hit my country, only thing i do now is crack some packs and play arena/autistically research ways to improve
>Got pretty decent at multiple formats, even got into mtgo and did pretty good there in leagues too.
>Bought a deece modern deck and have 4 standard t1-2 decks ready to go (only one is a tryhard netdeck)

Fuck i missed a lot in my younger years and i want to go to an fnm once before i die... How did it feel back then bros?

>> No.76485575 [DELETED] 

>>76485519
Tranny?

>> No.76485602

>>76485555
Magic hasn't been good in a long time, but even still FNM could be fun. Modern always fired at my LGS with 40+ people every week without fail. I love strong competition, and there were a few pro players there, so it was always fun to do battle with them and discuss builds and whatnot.
It wasn't even always about mtg, in and of itself, it was about the other autists you met along the way.
It was, dare I say, about the Gathering.
And that's something digital can never reproduce.

>> No.76485712

>>76485602
This is what i'm missing man, a fellowship of autists who i can meaningfully interact with through games like magic/40k or d&d. I have friends but all of their interests revolve around flavour of the month video games like phasmophobia and among us or league. I do play with them but it gets really old really fast and it doesn't feel challenging or stimulating at all.
Every single one of my attempts at traditional games failed because i have no community to join nor anyone to play them with. Got decks, multiple fully painted armies, gaming terrain, rulebooks for different games. All i lack is anyone's interest in me or my hobbies.
Don't ask for riches anons, ask for people to share them with.

>> No.76485751

>>76485602
>>76485712
I miss when I was a kid playing at my lgs circa Kamigawa. We all thought we were hot shit with the shithouse decks we made out of theme decks and whatever we could scrounge out of boosters.

>> No.76485806

It's not coming back

>> No.76485870

>>76476547
Based Magic Rainbow is trying to fix it with new cancer cards.

>> No.76486001

>>76481248
There's nothing wrong with a little consumerism anon...

but seriously some of those were complete trash why would you

>> No.76486009

>>76485519
>4 standard decks ready to go
> all will be worth literally pennies in 9 months
>covid restrictions probably won't die down till 4 months in
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF

>> No.76486111

>>76482588
>solitary confinement
actually amazing with court of cunny, is there any deck that utilizes these?
Rip/field as well, seems like the deck has real legs

>> No.76486768

>>76474644
literally what is that?

>> No.76486867 [DELETED] 

>>76471181
I would gladly accept the tradeoff of every character in MTG being a white cis male if it meant that /lgbt/ would leave the game forever.

>> No.76486935

>>76478247
I wouldn't be alright either if I based my whole life identity in a chinese children's card game

>> No.76487017

>>76485555
bro, you have no excuses, in about the same timeframe I got two modern decks and played a shitton of fnm until modern died

>> No.76487128 [DELETED] 

>>76486867
Ironically, if all the characters were white males it would probably draw in MORE faggots.

>> No.76487552

>>76471109
Phasing. And not in the "This phases out until end of turn" way, I mean the actual Phasing mechanic from Mirage. I want to play with and against shitty dysfunctional cards that only work half the time they're out and every deck has tons of drawbacks and downsides to the cards they use. And none of it synergizes well so your own deck is even more of an enemy to you than your opponent. I want to play a game where both players have to play like that.

I also love Echo, Fading, and creatures with abilities like "Pay G on your upkeep or sacrifice this creature".

>> No.76487927 [DELETED] 

>>76487128
Dude, you have to admit, Venser was really fuckable.

>> No.76487963

>>76487552
>I want to play a game where both players have to play like that.
Play Keyforge. The lack of any deckbuilding is obviously unacceptable to some people, but the gameplay itself is brilliant and fun. Garfield did an astounding job.

>> No.76487990

>>76487963
Isn't Keyforge basically just Jumpstart? Meaning shit?

>> No.76488021

>>76487990
(You)
Satisfied?

>> No.76488037

>>76487990
that is what WotC wants you to think
try keyforge anon
its not "like jumpstart"

>> No.76488055

>>76488037
I have no interest
I like deckbuilding. I would rather just play cube

>> No.76488118

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/updating-list-kaldheim-2020-12-16

>> No.76488143

Mtg sucks. The entire game design is shit, not just the cards themselves. Even Garfield has lamented its inherent, unfixable flaws.
We've learned a lot since mtg came out. You're living in the ccg equivalent of the stone age.
But hey, if banging rocks together makes you happy then unironically stick with it.

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>>76488118
>they're keeping the list
oh god, every card is going to keep plummeting isn't it
i should've sold out months ago

>> No.76488173

>>76488118
>no stitcher's supplier

>> No.76488228

>>76488156
No shit sherlock, we're all in for the ride now.

>> No.76488247

>>76488156
>cry about a lack of reprints
>cry about reprints
Truly, the players really are the problem.

>> No.76488273

>>76488247
The only "people" complaining about reprints are investors, and they deserve to go broke for gatekeeping the wrong way.

>> No.76488275

>>76488156
suffer finance nigger

>> No.76488300

>>76488273
>>76488275
The finance aspect has been a part of MTG since Alpha.

>> No.76488310

>>76488118
>Frost titan, Jokulmorder, rite of flame and a bunch of snow themed cards that people would remember
cool
>a ton of standard uncos & other garbage getting reprinted for some reason
not cool

>> No.76488330

>>76488300
>the serfdom aspect has been a part of Europe since the 9th century

>> No.76488399

I should not have bought 43 Locthwains.

>> No.76488419

>>76488399
I don't believe in investing in cards, but Lochwain seems like a good bet. What happened?

>> No.76488437

>>76488419
for some reason any good standard rare post-dominaria gets printed into the ground

>> No.76488444

>>76488330
lol

>> No.76489043

>I was so close to having Dimir Rogues as the top spot last week so I decided to give it the nod this week. I think of the two format-defining decks of current standard as Gruul and Dimir Rogues, so I’m sharing the wealth a bit, sort of like when they think it’s someone’s turn to win an Oscar. Dimir Rogues is a bit like playing a Legacy deck in Standard; it’s very hard to play and relies on expert sequencing in order to gain small advantages.
LMAO

>> No.76489083

>>76488156
>NOOOOOO not my hecking carderinoooooos
>The game must stay unaffordable. Surely that will keep players in, right?

>> No.76489116

>>76489083
Nobody wants to keep players in the game, people are complaining because selling out is just a much worse option now. And nobody wants to stay playing this fucking game do them reprinting everything into the ground is pretty shitty timing.

>> No.76489202

>>76475387
Bwahahahahahaha. What a fucking K1*3.

>> No.76489229

>>76476251
I point a gun to your wife's son's head and make you open it :^)

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>>76480046
>TCC liked this
He's a dumb brainwashed leftie. He's just one step above the mindless npc drones.

>> No.76489504

>>76485038
But why? The last card I bought was Invoke Prejudice.

>> No.76489635

>>76478247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Th2ufPSCgY
>white cuck selling his collection to give away the money to charities that only help one race and entitled trannies
is this the famous reparations kangz always talk about?

>> No.76490196
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>Mountain, Simian Spirit Guide, Desperate Ritual, Blood Moon

>> No.76490345
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76490345

Who's the monarch /mmg/ ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQFPev7fab8

>> No.76490445 [DELETED] 

>>76480046
channel is pozzed af

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>>76490445
I feel like every other thing is pozzed or in the process of getting pozzed. Japan may be mostly safe for now, but global homogenization of cultures will likely corrode Japan's sanity as well. It's already happening with Crapcom.

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>>76490345
Me! I'm the monarch! I'm always the monarch! Monarch for afterlife!

>> No.76490749
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did this game really die cuz investors got assmad about the company reprinting duals?

>> No.76490830

>>76490749
That game died for several reasons

>> No.76490975

>>76471684
>be empty handed
>draw card for turn
>its a rat colony
>deploy rat colony, pass turn
riveting stuff

>> No.76491088 [DELETED] 

>>76490550
I relish your suffering.

>> No.76491119

>>76490975
If I still haven't won by the time I'm top decking there's no other card that would win me the game anyways. At least not one were the benefit of top decking it is better than having it do nothing in my opening hand.

>> No.76491223
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>>76490749
Don't make me repost for the sixth time this month why FoW died.
It didn't die because "le investors xD", pic related is why it died, if I need to elaborate further I'll assume your IQ is so low you can't be reasoned with.

>> No.76491297

>>76491223
Cardgame was killed by a single card?
Come on

>> No.76491322

>>76491297
I am so, so sorry that you're a midwit anon.
I'd say that someday you might not be a subhuman midwit, but sadly there is no cure for being born with Dunning Kruger.

>> No.76491329

>>76490700
based

>> No.76491381

>>76491297
That card is indicative of FoW's retarded balance, they did 2019-20 magic for the entire run, they even made companions on crack, twice.
>inb4 the swede fowtard comes screaming that his ebin lgs still does fow events

>> No.76491403

>>76491297
The card game was killed many times
It was killed by general incompetence and then releasing a premade deck with future cards in it that also made burn broken
Then it was killed again by shit like this, that card is basically Birthing Pod + Wish + DRS on a Commander

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>>76491403
A commander with shroud+indestructible mind you :^)
Here is the FoW timeline of "haha balance :D":
>Laevathin blade kills you
>R/R fucks you and you eat shit, you don't get to play cards ever again
>Beastmaster kills you
>Fox casually is an indestructible+shroud combo piece that kills you with nearly zero interaction
>Then they released Sherry which allowed you to casually give flash to good creatures & 5 extra cards in hand that you can keep using again and again and again.
>And of course the whole force of green shithell of Dreams+winds, counter everything you do and then burn your creatures because fuck you.
>Then runes which are Sherry but 10 of.
At which point the game was very well fucking killed.

And you might say
>Ah yes but you see that was just STANDARD!
Yeah, correct, because eternal wasn't playable since this sick fuckin' cunt decided to yeet you into the bog with storm on T1 in a game without FoW.

>> No.76491644

>>76491381
they dont even sell fow here lmao

>> No.76491670

>>76491644
Neither here lmao, it died after Sherry.

>> No.76492201 [DELETED] 

>>76490550
Japan is already on its way out. Have you SEEN what has been happening with the Playstation after Sony changed its HQ to San Fran Sicko? Nintendo is going down that path as well, albeit at a slower pace. Japan is slower to change but will always follow suit with whatever is trending in the US, no matter what.

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>>76491503

>in a game without FoW.

are you telling me that a game named Force of Will does not have a Force of Will equivalent?
doesn't this upset the balance of the cosmos in some way?

>> No.76492418

>>76491322
Sorry, not autist to care about some whatever dead TCG

>> No.76492591

>>76487990
>>76488037
I don't want Keyforge though, that has no mana system as far as I can tell, I want both players to constantly be mana-screwed and no deck ever operates at 100%.

Actually, what I'd REALLY like is Magic but everyone has to play with bad cards in 70 card decks with exactly 24 lands and both players get to see the other guy's deck and remove 10 non-land cards from the other guy's deck before the game starts, so even if you do sneak a good interaction into your deck beforehand the other guy can identify it and neuter your plans before the game even begins. Basically, I want to play a dysfunctional version of magic where nothing goes as planned and nothing is as effective as you'd like it to be. You never get a "good" game where both people's decks do what they're supposed to and the guy with the better strategy wins. I want Murphy's Law to be in full effect and enforced by game mechanics.

>> No.76493001

What dual should I buy if I want something that will keep its value?
I would need a taiga for my deck it's much cheaper than some other dual, would it be a good option?

>> No.76493002 [DELETED] 

>>76492201
Fuck off, /pol/.

>> No.76493132 [DELETED] 

>>76493002
Kill yourself, kike.

>> No.76493223

>>76493001
probably a blue dual but honestly you should just buy what you need. what are you buying 'em for anyway?

>> No.76493290

>>76493223
Put in my EDH deck. But I hope they retain some value. I am quite risk averse.

>> No.76493471

>>76493290
> I am quite risk averse.
What the fuck are you doing buying magic gards? It's a cheap cardboard collectible from a failing game. Buy something actually valuable with your money, like commodities or precious metals.

>> No.76493607

>>76493290
Magic cards are for playing with, not for selling. If you're so risk-averse, go buy gold or diamonds or something. You'll always be able to find someone willing to buy that for more than you bought it for.

>> No.76493759

>>76493290
Just proxy it with MPC Autofill if you're using it for EDH. Or buy a proxy from a Shenzhen merchant if you're playing in a store and you really need to pass it off as legit. No reason to spend hundreds of dollars on an old piece of cardboard when you can spend 2 dollars on new cardboard that works just as well

>> No.76493827

>>76493759
I think that's why I will end up doing. It will probably look better than the real deal anyway.

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>>76492591
What you want honestly sounds like draft approached from a different angel. Definitely fun sounding.

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>>76492591
What you want honestly sounds like draft approached from a different angle. Definitely fun sounding.

>> No.76493968

>>76493945
Keyforge has a format where everyone brings the worst deck they can find, and your opponent has to use your deck.
It's quite fascinating.

>> No.76494002

>>76492591

>I want both players to constantly be mana-screwed and no deck ever operates at 100%.

just unban strip mine in legacy
uncuck the format: take the strip mine pill

>> No.76494139

>>76493827
Good choice anon, they definitely feel & look nicer from my experience

>> No.76494174

>>76494002
Based
And print Wasteland into Modern, ban Wrenn & Six. Not that there's any saving Magic at this point though

>> No.76494361

>>76494002
Only thing I don't like about that is that you can use it with Crucible of World to lock somebody down. That sounds WAY too effective and functional. I want it to be "Oh, you had a plan for how to beat your opponent going into this? Ha ha, it probably won't work." Maybe have you flip a coin when you use Strip Mine and if you lose the flip your opponent gets to destroy one of your permanents instead? Now you think twice before ever using it because it is probably a bad idea. I want powerful cards to be "Playing this card is probably a bad idea but I have to risk this if I want to use it". I want everyone's strategy to fall apart before the game even starts and you are forced to improvise with what few and shitty tools you have left. No amount of planning ahead will help. Deckbuilding isn't about having a plan for how to win anymore, it is about making something that can still do anything at all after having its guts ripped out, and even then, what little you can do probably won't work.

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>>76494361

if you fuck with determinism to the extent you're suggesting, what is left is basically a slot machine/rng.
which clearly some people find fun, but it's certainly not anywhere remotely close to what i'd call "strategic" or "thoughtful"

>> No.76494466

remember that time when people invested on keyforge lol

>> No.76494483

>>76494361
crucible locks are not nearly fast enough to matter anymore (sadly)
i dont think unbanning stripmine would harm the format

>> No.76494528

>>76494483
>Azusa+Ramunap excavator
>You can blow up 3 lands a turn thanks to the stripmine you tutored with your elvish reclaimer
Not fast enough???

>> No.76494550

>>76494455
I'd be okay with that. I'm not a huge fan of coin flips, but then again I'm not a huge fan of Strip Mine either. Like, if it were up to me, Strip Mine would cost 4 mana to activate and exile itself instead of sacrificing (or simply design the game from the beginning that you can;t get lands out of your graveyard easily). But since actual Strip Mine only require you to tap it to activate, that is way too powerful and under costed, it needs to have a horrific downside. I hate playing against powerful cards and strategies, and I don't really like using them much either. I want everyone to use weak strategies.

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junk is back on the menu

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>>76494596
>5 drop
amazing how wizards always prints undercosted ux cards while always managing to fix the game in time to print weak non blue cards.

>> No.76494715

>>76494632
Honestly, I hope they never print an undercosted card without a serious drawback again and the game reverts to Masques/Invasion power level permanently. This is just me, but that Kaya should have costed six since her +1 ability is akin to False Demise, which costs 3 mana and you;ll presumably get to use the +1 twice even if you;re under attack because she comes with 6 Loyalty (5 from the start, one from her +1) meaning she survives a hit from the venerable Blastoderm with one loyalty remaining. 2 False Demises should cost 6 mana, end of story. These cards are too damn powerful.

I feel like i'm the only person saying this but i wish they printed more jank, and even the "good" cards and tourney staples were dumb jank.

>> No.76494740

>>76494596
>5 mana
>plus effect has no board presence
It's garbage, anon.

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>uro and omnath are legal in pioneer
Wizards does not give a fuck about Pioneer, do they?

>> No.76494791

>>76494596
DOes it have a beard?

>> No.76494832

>>76494528
if you have a three card combo on the table in legacy you deserve to win the game on the spot

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>>76494528
>tomb, petal, show and tell

>> No.76494958

>>76494787
they are probably waiting to see if Kaldheim magically fixes things

>> No.76495004

>>76494787
They don't give a fuck about any format that isn't on Arena. Look at the Modern and Legacy metas. And they only kinda case about the Arena formats, I think they lost a lot of newer players when they refused to ban Omnath in Standard for a while. They want to make Arena their main cash avenue, but they're so obviously greedy that they're driving away most casuls

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>>76494715
I don't want them to make bad cards, but there's a not at all hard to distinguish line between "good" cards and "unstoppable value engine" FIRE cards we've been getting for two years now. Take pic related. No one objects to any particular part of this card. It's a 1/3 for UU. Fine. It does a devotion-based scry type thing with your top X cards. Fine. It wins the game on ETB if your library is empty. Fine.

But why does it do ALL of these things? If there's one constant with nu-magic it's:
- On curve body (and in Creatures: the Tappening it is always a body)
- Good effect that always procs giving instant value and which never requires any timing or thought
- Another extra and entirely separate effect does something really strong in addition to the first effect
- Sometimes: Plus a french vanilla keyword (not accounted for in its Body/CMC ratio)

>> No.76495115

>>76495009
>Fine. It wins the game on ETB if your library is empty. Fine.
it really wouldn't be any better if it were a sorcery

>> No.76495153

>>76477225
Waiting for the starter deck reprint to start playing FaB.

>> No.76495193

>>76492591
play mahjong

>> No.76495207

>>76493827
The foils don't curl, imagine that!

>> No.76495221

>>76495004
>when they refused to ban Omnath in Standard for a while

You mean Uro? Omnath was one of the fastest standard bans of all time.

>> No.76495380

>>76494787
It took them 6 months to give a single fuck after THB and they haven't given another fuck since.

>> No.76495429 [DELETED] 

>>76471181
the mods should ban you for racism

>> No.76495454 [DELETED] 

>>76471181
why does everyone say /edh/ is full of trannies when this is one of the first posts in /mmg/?

>> No.76495501 [DELETED] 

>>76495454
Fuck off back to edh, tranny.

>> No.76495508

>>76488156
Why are so many of the cards on this list not actually that interesting?

>> No.76495510 [DELETED] 

>>76495454
There's nothing actually wrong with edhg, people here are just salty because their formats were sacrificed on the altar of fire for the sake of edh.

>> No.76495754

>>76495221
Uro too, but I saw more Arena players mad about Omnath. It was clear from day 2 of the Standard format that Omnath was horrendously broken, and a lot of people correctly saw the Uro ban as a way to avoid banning the new mythic. They also correctly questioned whether or not it was playtested at all.
In older times of paper Standard, the Omnath ban would’ve been seen as incredibly fast. But Arena players are comparing the game to other CCGs, where Omnath would have been patched within a day or two. It also didn’t help that the Uro ban happened the same day as TWD secret lair announcement, and Arena just went through a phase of being buggy to the point of unplayability for weeks before getting patched

>> No.76495843

>>76494958
how fucking strong would kaldheim black cards have to be to counter 4c omnath pile?

>> No.76495847 [DELETED] 

>>76495510
I can definitely understand that. I used to be exclusively a modern player but nowadays I converted all of my modern decks into edh. I guess I really am a deck switching tranny.

>> No.76495886

>>76476731
>He thinks government is ever going to allow people out of lockdown now that the masses are willingly subservient to their whims
Just wear the mask and breath in your own carbon, goym.

>> No.76495938

>>76495843
Whatever it is, it would have to deal with Oko too. So I hope it's true desu and they give black a card that can fight Oko in Legacy. Of course, it would just get absorbed by Snowko then.

>> No.76495955

>>76495843
I agree that it's pointless to wait but you know how they don't like to ban new cards
if Uro/Omanth get banned in Pioneer there will be some serious discussion about how they HAVE to go in Modern too

having your most recent chase Mythics being banned all the way into Legacy since the last set of 2019 has to look bad for business
they will try to slow down the whole process as much as they possibly can

>> No.76495959

>>76495938
I thought oko was banned in pioqueer?

>> No.76495972

>>76481248
The only secret lairs that are even remotely decent are the ones with alternative land art, and they're still $30+ for a single basic of that particular art. You are a fucking idiot.

>> No.76495984

>>76481248
financefags get the rope

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>>76471143
based and redpilled

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>>76495959
he is

>> No.76496168

>>76480046
good goyim, don't let the non-feminists question your righteous beliefs.

>> No.76496235

>>76489043
>Dimir Rogues is a bit like playing a Legacy deck in Standard
>it’s very hard to play and relies on expert sequencing in order to gain small advantages
hahaha Who wrote this?

>> No.76496248

>>76489451
this

>> No.76496253

>>76496235
probably someone from the arena general
some dudes started a joke that "historic is vintage but faster" and some people are actually buying into it

>> No.76496328

>>76496253
>>76496235
Nope
Huey Jensen
https://strategy.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/mtg/standard-power-rankings-12-14-2020/

>> No.76496441

>>76492591
Just play draft.

>> No.76496501

>>76495009
>2cmc Win the Game
>Fine
LOL

>> No.76496580

>>76495843
FiRE Blightening
1BR - Instant
Deal 4 damage to any target. If a player or permanent controlled by a player is dealt damage this way, that player discards 2 cards.

>> No.76496591

>>76495972
Kitties SLD is cute.

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>>76496501

>2 cmc win the game if you've already milled your entire library, and can still be countered unless off vial or cavern, so this entire situation must transpire where a vial or cavern is on the battlefield (both removable before wincon is ready) and you have milled your entire library

it's fine, not because it's good design (it's not due to word vomit), but because the decks that it literally resurrected from the dead (decks not seen in ~10 years like doomsday and ceph breakfast) are interesting and promote interactive and thoughtful gameplay. in addition, it also added alternate wincons for meme jank shit like merfolk.

i don't care about how thassa's oracle impacted peasant formats, so don't @ me with that asinine horseshit. legacy is all that matters

>> No.76496612

>>76496596
Legacy is dead, bro.

>> No.76496625

>>76496596
>Milling your entire deck is hard
>Holding free to cast Counterspell is super hard
You're a fucking retard.

>> No.76496628

>>76496612
you're talking to the faggot who spends all day, every day, shitposting and baiting in /mmg/
I don't take anything I read about legacy in these threads seriously because anyone who plays legacy knows legacy is a total shitshow now, and anyone not saying that, is the shitposter

>> No.76496683

>>76496628

>legacy is a total shitshow now

i'll never deny that. never ever
but thassa's oracle has absolutely nothing to do with legacy being a shitshow, and is actually one of the few brightspots of the past year since that single card revived multiple long-dead interactive combo decks in the format.

>>76496625
all these things are plenty interactable beforehand. get dabbed on, unga bunga nigger

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>> No.76496949

>>76496861
YAWN

>> No.76497023

>>76494715
You are right.

>> No.76497038

>>76496835
OH MAN ELVES TIER 1 CONFIRMED FUCK YES

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>>76496861
the backside

>> No.76497073

>>76496861
>>76496949
nah that's pretty cool

>> No.76497091

>>76497067
wew that sucks

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>>76496861
>4 Mana for a 4/4 with no combat abilities
>Loses in combat to a pack of Arctic Wovles, pic related.
Yeah, some God he is. At least the Amonkhet and Theros ones are Indestructible.

>> No.76497123

>>76497067
>>76496861
so powerful
so white

>> No.76497151

>>76496861
God of Battle can't defeat a Crude Rampart.

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>>76497151

>> No.76497185

>>76497151
he could if he was equipped!!!

>> No.76497188

>>76496861
>isn't indestructible
>has no mechanic to bring him back
why make it a god then
why couldn't he be just a random legendary barbarian or something

>> No.76497222

>>76497188
Well, his equipment side returns dying creatures to the hand, so I guess it's going to be there on all the god dfcs?

>> No.76497292

>>76497188
Gods in Norse mythology die, and you can play the sword and creature side independently from one another. Equip his own sword to himself.

>> No.76497396

>See spoilers coming out
>Speculate equipment will somehow play a role
>Panic buy Puresteel Paladin, Leonin Shikari, and Sigarda's Aid this morning
>Gods in the set are MDFC's
Praying to God my order doesn't get recanted.

>> No.76497468

>>76497396
>speculating on paper when there arent going to be paper events ever again
ngmi

>> No.76497499

>>76497468
>implying other speculators won't boost his position enough to make it worth speculating in the first place
it's speculators buying this shit, it's speculators selling this shit
the only question is when will the madness end

>> No.76497561

>>76497468
>Doesn't have a dedicated playgroup he plays kitchen table with over Zoom
Bro, I made it a long time ago.

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>>76497468

i just buy pretty cardboard to look at it
if the chinaman could make these old foils and old cards as pretty for 2.80 dollarydoos, i'd never buy another "real card" ever again. i already proxy all new cards anyway ("new" means not printed with old borders) and haven't bought a pack since 2000.

>> No.76498105

>>76497292
Please name gods known for dieing outside of Ragnarok or Baldr in an extremely specific way.

>> No.76498116

>>76498067
based and proxypilled

>> No.76498396

>>76498067
I have a cephalid tribal deck. so much fun

>> No.76498645

>>76496861
>4 mana vanilla 4/4
HOLY MOLY WHITE BROS WE ARE BACK! PRAISE BE TO MARO

>> No.76499056

>>76496880

>any time

does this mean you can IN THEORY cast your whole deck by looking at the top card multiple times? like kobolds?

>> No.76499198

>>76499056
If you have infinite mana and they are all the same type, sure

>> No.76499397

>>76499198

kobolds are free.

>> No.76499549

>>76497188
The theros and origina amonkhet gods can't even attack or block without specific requirements.

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